Tuesday Open Thread

From the Guardian: Jared Kushner's charmed life is about to come to a screeching halt and Germany Steps Up Attack on Trump for 'weakening' the west .

Trump's Communications Director is leaving. (His resignation letter was submitted May 18.)

The House committee investigating Russia has issued a subpoena to Trump's personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, after he refused an invitation to talk to them. (Added: Reuters says no subpoena has been issued.)

This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    This was also my LTE (5.00 / 2) (#5)
    by Repack Rider on Tue May 30, 2017 at 09:19:10 PM EST
    ...not published yet.

    Kellyanne Conway says the Russia-Trump investigation is a "rush to judgment."

    Give it time. The GOP spent five years and tens of millions of taxpayer dollars running 11 investigations of Benghazeee!, and had Hillary Clinton give 11 hours of sworn testimony in order to PROVE BEYOND A DOUBT that she was innocent.

    I think we owe Mr. Trump the same courtesy.

    The editor called (5.00 / 3) (#70)
    by Repack Rider on Wed May 31, 2017 at 09:12:18 PM EST
    This will run in the local paper this week.

    A Powerful Voice in my lifetime (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by Ladyjustice on Tue May 30, 2017 at 09:39:33 PM EST
    was Elie Wiesel:

    "To remain silent and indifferent is the greatest sin of all."

    Where is there a law or rule that says the most powerful voices in our country cannot speak out: former presidents and vice presidents MUST SPEAK out against Donald Trump and this Administration, because the Republicans, who know better won't.  Donald Trump and the Republicans are shredding our constitution, our flag and our democracy.  This must stop.

    There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there must NEVER be a time when we fail to protest."

    Please, Presidents Bushes, Clinton, Carter, and Obama say something together, collectively. Maybe if you do the Republicans in Congress will listen and move to save our Constitution and Democracy.  

    Donald Trump has shredded and broken rules of civility, lied his way to the highest office and believes he is immune from any law or any rule.*

    The former presidents and vice presidents can and should SPEAK OUT irregardless of precedent.  Desperate times call for desperate measures. The majority of Americans are calling/looking for one more powerful than Trump to speak and make a difference. Now is the time.

    And we cannot allow the main stream media to do what they did during the primaries, and that brought Trump into office.  That is to make every Trump tweet the main topic of the news cycle.  Trump wants all to believe that it's HRC's fault because she and the Dems lost the election. Turn to main stream and that is all you will hear. WHY??????

    *Witness how Trump embarrassed the United States in Europe and played into Russia's playbook by weakening our alliances. Shame and embarrassment is in our future?????

    Trump May Still Have Quayle and Cheney (none / 0) (#7)
    by RickyJim on Tue May 30, 2017 at 10:28:38 PM EST
    Quayle and Cheney are the only former P or VPs who say they voted for Trump.  Except for Cheney saying that Trump's inaugural address was not one he would have made, I can't find any post-inaugural negative statements about Trump by either of them.

    An interesting article on Trump (5.00 / 2) (#8)
    by caseyOR on Tue May 30, 2017 at 10:47:23 PM EST
    by Rebecca Solnit. She writes about the need we all have for people who are honest with us, and what the lack of such people in his life says about Trump.


    he has a response for that (none / 0) (#9)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 07:27:17 AM EST
    if you can figure it out let the rest of us in on it

    "Despite the negative press covfefe," Trump wrote, and nothing more. The tweet was deleted later Wednesday morning, but only after it had been up for several hours.

    he fell alseep, or the drugs kicked in, in the middle of a tweet apparently.  ahhhhh.....so adorable


    Will there now be (none / 0) (#15)
    by Peter G on Wed May 31, 2017 at 01:07:08 PM EST
    a cowfefe kerfuffle?

    so much for the (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 01:16:08 PM EST
    "team of lawyers"

    but i would love to have witnessed the round table of face palms when they reported for work at 5 and found this.


    You have to be so quick (none / 0) (#16)
    by Militarytracy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 01:15:24 PM EST
    Getting a great Twitter handle. Mazel Tov Cocktail was gone in 60 seconds. And covfefe? Gone, grabbed up :)

    Oops. Can't even type my own jokes (5.00 / 4) (#19)
    by Peter G on Wed May 31, 2017 at 01:46:44 PM EST
    about others' typos correctly.  Covfefe, of course; not cowfefe. How udderly careless of me. But I promise not to milk this further.

    We can't allow (5.00 / 2) (#25)
    by KeysDan on Wed May 31, 2017 at 02:10:24 PM EST
    ourselves to be cowed by Trump's tweets.

    If I'm going to express my beefs (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by Militarytracy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 02:14:47 PM EST
    I'd better stop tweeting using my real damn name though :)

    cowfefe (5.00 / 1) (#35)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 02:46:07 PM EST
    is way better.  cows are just funny by default.

    Merriam-Webster, of course (none / 0) (#21)
    by Towanda on Wed May 31, 2017 at 01:48:09 PM EST
    tweeted (its twitter feed is a daily favorite) an excellent definition of covfefe.

    Urban Dictionary and Webster soon followed with more, amid widespread mockery of the Twit in Chief.


    At 4 am, the Philadelphia Police (5.00 / 3) (#81)
    by Peter G on Wed May 31, 2017 at 10:16:07 PM EST
    official Twitter account posted: "Roads are still slick from last night's rain. Please use your wipers and drive with covfefe". The police!

    The most amazing thing about this ... (none / 0) (#50)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed May 31, 2017 at 05:27:00 PM EST
    ... otherwise-nonstory today was the almost complete inability of White House spokesman Sean Spicer to publicly admit during today's press briefing that his boss's tweet had a typo.

    I went downstairs and walked down the block to get coffee, and the coffee shop had CNN on. For the entire 15 minutes I was there, minus the commercials, the talking heads did nothing but babble incessantly about this silly tweet and what it means. But hey, anything to bump Kathy Griffin off the lead, eh?

    What a banal and trivial media culture we have.


    I do not think (5.00 / 2) (#53)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 05:42:02 PM EST
    This is trivial.  It has a trivial side.  It also has a deadly serious side.  This was an official tweet from the freakin President.  And it sounded like it came from a mental patient.  And it stayed on Twitter for hours and hours.

    So there is that.

    But then there is the part about how this official Twitter feed from the U.S. White House is so badly managed that this could happen.

    What if it's hacked and some joker announces a nuclear against, say, North Korea?

    Or something more pedestrian like using it to attack a particular stock or company for the purpose of manipulating the market.  

    This funny.  But it's also not funny at all.  I think people are having fun with it because what the hell else are we going to do.


    ... it's reflective of a delusional president and his coterie of fearful and obsequious sycophants like Spicer, who likely continue to shower the boss with praise and adoration even as they constantly clean up after his self-inflicted messes.

    But honestly, is the tweet itself really worth an extended discussion by cable TV bobbleheads regarding its meaning? I mean, it was a goddamned typo fer Chrissake! And we've long since known that Trump's tweeting is reckless. A better topic for a panel discussion would be why nobody in the White House can stop him from doing it. Personally, I found today's coverage less funny than pathetic.

    We the news-consuming public would no doubt be far better served, were the media to take it upon themselves to explain to everyone what Cambridge Analytica is, and what it did in the 2016 election. But then, that would require them to practice, you know, actual journalism.



    I wasn't really talking about tv (none / 0) (#58)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 06:32:21 PM EST
    Coverage.  It's pretty consistently pathetic.  The web response however has been hilarious.

    Of course any discussion of "what it means", well, it must have been CNN.  I seen quite a lot of "how could this happen or be allowed to happen"  which IMO is a very valid question.

    Hillary said she assumed it was a secret message to the Russians.  Which I guess was a joke but it gave me pause.


    Hillary just dinged him with it (5.00 / 1) (#61)
    by Militarytracy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 08:43:25 PM EST
    He mean tweeted about her. She replied to him that people in covfefe houses shouldn't throw covfefe. It was retreated 7,000 times in the first 4 mins.

    Still (none / 0) (#62)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 08:46:59 PM EST
    Spicy the inscrutable said "Trump and a small group of people knew exactly what it meant".

    Now do I actually think that was anything but being a shameless today?  No.

    But it was an pretty hilarious tweet in mouth


    Um (none / 0) (#64)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 08:47:56 PM EST
    Stupid spellcheck

    The whole world laughed learning (none / 0) (#65)
    by Militarytracy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 08:51:21 PM EST
    That the real problem was we weren't all in the loop. I can't believe it stayed up for as long as it did. His staff must be wiped out exhausted.

    That is an incredible writing (none / 0) (#34)
    by Militarytracy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 02:44:44 PM EST
    I have saved the link so that I can soak it in on the road when I'm bored in upcoming days. Thank you for putting that up. There is something very anchoring for me in that piece. It's been days and days of weirdness and offensiveness, and we have been working physically very hard too wrapping up our house and this move. I feel like I'm moving through a fog sometimes.

    interesting anecdotal (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 12:05:47 PM EST
    took my dogs to the groomer this morning.  conversation, as it does, turned to DC insanity.

    she went off.

    says she voted for Trump but regrets it and he is a disaster.  another customer nodding in agreement with everything she said.

    Sean Spicer was just emotionally beat to (none / 0) (#26)
    by Militarytracy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 02:12:10 PM EST
    Heck today. The reporters were obviously feeling empathetic. They were very polite to him today.

    He knows who he works for though, knew it when he took the job. It's not like this all accidentally happened to him. It's not like he doesn't have a hand in this fate/his fate.


    I must confess (none / 0) (#28)
    by MKS on Wed May 31, 2017 at 02:15:19 PM EST
    that I like Spicey.

    Maybe it is just pity.  (And, yes, I know the guy did bring it on himself.)

    But he is just pathetic with his word salad absurdities that Cheeto makes him say.


    I don't want to like him (none / 0) (#31)
    by Militarytracy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 02:26:15 PM EST
    And it is an impossible thankless morbid task every damn day. Take this perseverance and stamina and apply it to a worthy cause, get out of there Sean.

    i dont like him (5.00 / 2) (#36)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 02:48:39 PM EST
    dont feel sorry for him.  i feel no empathy or pity of any description.  he can quit any time he wants.  screw him.  he is a lying shameless pos as far as i am concerned.

    Mendacious and (none / 0) (#39)
    by KeysDan on Wed May 31, 2017 at 03:19:06 PM EST
    humorless, emblematic of Trump.  He came from nowhere and should return there.

    well seriously (none / 0) (#40)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 03:25:17 PM EST
    ...for what Trump "makes him say?"  please.  hes is not Trumps property.  its a job.  he can quit. and the country would give him a standing ovation.   but he doesnt.  f him.

    i submit some are projecting feelings for Melissa McCarthy.  surley.


    Melissa McCarthy (5.00 / 1) (#46)
    by MKS on Wed May 31, 2017 at 05:09:39 PM EST
    does in an odd way humanize Spicer....

    holy hell (none / 0) (#41)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 03:35:42 PM EST
    i just heard the audio of todays "press gagle" which is what happens when he cant bear to lie like a rug in front of actual cameras.

    ask if he wanted to explain the cowfefe tweet he says.  

    no.  the president and a small group of people knew exactly what he meant.  

    then it sounded like a comedy club.

    shamless spineless brainless pos.


    Joining Special Counsel Mueller's team, (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by KeysDan on Wed May 31, 2017 at 02:06:03 PM EST
    DOJ fraud section chief Andrew Weissmann, whose experiences have included corporate frauds, foreign bribery, investigations into Volkswagen diesel-cheating, market manipulation/global banks, corrupt payments/Brazil's state-owned Petrobras, and Enron task force.

    According to a report in McClatchy News ... (5.00 / 1) (#33)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed May 31, 2017 at 02:42:56 PM EST
    ... the FBI's current interest in Jared Kushner goes well beyond his alleged attempt to establish some sort of back-channel access via the Russian intelligence services between the Trump administration and the Putin regime, and may be focusing on his relationship with Cambridge Analytica.

    Hillary's big mistake. (5.00 / 4) (#32)
    by KeysDan on Wed May 31, 2017 at 02:39:44 PM EST
    Rather than using a private server in her home guarded by the Secret Service she should have communicated using the server in the Russian Embassy.  The Republicans would not have had any problem with that, (such channels are A-OK) and the rest would have been a different history.

    so (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 03:15:30 PM EST
    Mueller has cleared Comey to testify and it could happen as early as next week.

    hello moonshot audience.

    He was horrible at the G7 (5.00 / 1) (#48)
    by Militarytracy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 05:24:14 PM EST
    Like a grounded bully 2 grader. I couldn't believe it. A grown man acting that way. And we ain't seen nuthin yet.

    This may cause him to find a way out. I don't know if he can handle the support Comey is going to garner.

    He may set the White House on fire in the middle of the night or something.

    He has no good reason to pull out of the Paris Accord. But he's mad at all of us and he wants to bite and scratch us all.


    I think that was meant (none / 0) (#52)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 05:29:38 PM EST
    To be a reply to another comment.

    I totally agree he wants to.  But I would bet he is being begged and pressured in every possible way to resist that impulse.

    Heck Tillerson AND EXXON/MOBILE have asked him to not do it.

    Tillerson might have even given him a way by saying something like we will review it in a bit.

    Like, after the Comey testimony dust settles


    You don't think his oppositional (none / 0) (#54)
    by Militarytracy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 05:57:16 PM EST
    Defiant disorder wins ;)?

    I would like it if he could hear anyone around him, but I don't think he can.

    I continue to go back to my experience with our family member. They had to lose everyone's empathy. Every person they knew had to stop taking the calls, run away, and legal consequences before they "cracked". I think he is still feeling too strong. Sadly Kelly and McMaster kiss his a$$ so much, and he loves that, he doesn't know where he really is in all this.  He won't contemplate his MAGA base has fractured. I think when he suspects it's pretty bad for him outside the White House fence he becomes enraged. At least that's the behavior I saw at the G7.


    I would not (none / 0) (#56)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 06:03:29 PM EST
    Bet the new house.  

    Gonna burn the Twitter down ;) (none / 0) (#47)
    by Militarytracy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 05:16:47 PM EST
    He reportedly (none / 0) (#49)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 05:25:18 PM EST
    Is specifically cleared to talk about Trump asking him to back off Flynn.

    Hawaii businessman Andres Magana Ortiz, ... (5.00 / 1) (#59)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed May 31, 2017 at 07:04:48 PM EST
    ... who's also an undocumented Mexican national, has lost his appeal of his deportation order in the U.S. 9th Circuit of Appeals, which ruled that it lacked sufficient legal jurisdiction over the matter.

    But that didn't stop 86-year-old Appeals Judge Stephen Reinhardt from using the occasion to issue an unusually blistering 6-page condemnation of the Trump administration's immigration policies, even as he concurred with its legal right to deport Magana Ortiz:

    "The government's insistence on expelling a good man from the country in which he has lived for the past 28 years deprives his children of their right to be with their father, his wife of her right to be with her husband, and our country of a productive and responsible member of our community. Magana Ortiz, who first entered the United States at 15, is now 43 years old, and during his almost three decades here has raised a family and built a successful life. All of his children, ages 12, 14, and 20, were born in this country and are American citizens, as is his wife. His eldest daughter currently attends the University of Hawaii, and he is paying for
    her education.

    "Since coming to the United States, Magana Ortiz has become a respected businessman in Hawaii and well established in the coffee farming industry. He has worked with the United States Department of Agriculture in researching the pests afflicting Hawaii's coffee crop, and agreed to let the government use his farm, without charge, to conduct a five-year study. In his time in this country Magana Ortiz has built a house, started his own company, and paid his taxes. Although he apparently has two convictions for driving under the influence, the latest of them occurred fourteen years ago, and he has no history of any other crimes. Indeed, even the government conceded during the immigration proceedings that there was no question as to Magana Ortiz's good moral character.


    "Magana Ortiz now asks us to stay his imminent removal. Because we are without authority to do so, he will be returned to Mexico, after having spent 28 years successfully building a life and family in this country. He will also be subject to a ten-year bar against his return, likely forcing him to spend a decade deprived of his wife, children, and community.


    "In doing so, the government forces us to participate in ripping apart a family. Three United States citizen children will now have to choose between their father and their country. If they leave their homeland with their father, the children would be forced to move to a nation with which they have no connection. All three children were born in the United States; none has ever lived in Mexico or learned Spanish. Moving with their father would uproot their lives, interrupt their educations, and deprive them of the opportunities afforded by growing up in this country. If they remain in the United States, however, the children would not only lose a parent, but might also be deprived of their home, their opportunity for higher education, and their financial support. Subjecting vulnerable children to a choice between expulsion to a foreign land or losing the care and support of their father is not how this nation should treat its citizens.

    "President Trump has claimed that his immigration policies would target the 'bad hombres.' The government's decision to remove Magana Ortiz shows that even the 'good hombres' are not safe. Magana Ortiz is by all accounts a pillar of his community and a devoted father and husband. It is difficult to see how the government's decision to expel him is consistent with the President's promise of an immigration system with 'a lot of heart.' I find no such compassion in the government's choice to deport Magana Ortiz.

    "We are unable to prevent Magana Ortiz's removal, yet it is contrary to the values of this nation and its legal system.  Indeed, the government's decision to remove Magana Ortiz diminishes not only our country but our courts, which are supposedly dedicated to the pursuit of justice. Magana Ortiz and his family are in truth not the only victims. Among the others are judges who, forced to participate in such inhumane acts, suffer a loss of dignity and humanity as well. I concur as a judge, but as a citizen I do not." (Emphasis is mine.)

    Reinhardt's opinion speaks for itself.

    I am loving the do not give a f*ck Hillary. (5.00 / 4) (#73)
    by caseyOR on Wed May 31, 2017 at 09:28:05 PM EST
    She is saying what she thinks. She does not care if the CPU dits, mostly male, like it or her. She is not going away.

    And nobody trolls Trump like Hillary trolls Trump. It is a work of art.

    Pundits, not CPU dits. (5.00 / 1) (#74)
    by caseyOR on Wed May 31, 2017 at 09:28:41 PM EST
    She owns Twitter tonight (none / 0) (#78)
    by Militarytracy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 09:50:13 PM EST
    OWNS IT!

    Twitter is supposed to be "his" thing. Subpoenas were issued, Comey gets to talk sooner rather than later. He was just going to get that one mean tweet in and Boom! She dragged him to filth (that's a new phrase for me that I learned on Twitter tonight).


    Bad advice (5.00 / 4) (#77)
    by Repack Rider on Wed May 31, 2017 at 09:39:26 PM EST
    Kushner thought there would be no blowback for firing Comey.

    So Trump fired the guy. But being Trump, that was not enough. He called him names to the Russians. He slandered him. He lied about him.

    This was as strategically unsound as the bad guy lecturing Bruce Willis at the end of the film instead of just shooting him.  Bruce is already coming after you, but now he's coming after you mad.

    I have no love for James Comey, but he could spot DJT the first three moves, let him call Sean Hannity for advice, and still beat him at tic-tac-toe. And he has a particular set of skills. Even as a private citizen, he is not someone you would want for an implacable, lifetime enemy. He knows everyone in America who investigates stuff, and he has a lot of time on his hands because of course he lost the best job a guy like him could ever have.

    It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop... ever, until ...

    Trump goes down.

    From (5.00 / 2) (#83)
    by FlJoe on Thu Jun 01, 2017 at 10:31:58 AM EST
    the quid meets quo files
    The Trump administration is moving toward handing back to Russia two diplomatic compounds, near New York City and on Maryland's Eastern Shore, that its officials were ejected from in late December as punishment for Moscow's interference in the 2016 presidential election.

    President Barack Obama said Dec. 29 that the compounds were being "used by Russian personnel for intelligence-related purposes" and gave Russia 24 hours to vacate them.

    Originally the tRump admin pretending it was "dealing"
    Early last month, the Trump administration told the Russians that it would consider turning the properties back over to them if Moscow would lift its freeze, imposed in 2014 in retaliation for U.S. sanctions related to Ukraine, on construction of a new U.S. consulate on a certain parcel of land in St. Petersburg.
    but they apparently just folded
    Two days later, the U.S. position changed. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson told Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak at a meeting in Washington that the United States had dropped any linkage between the compounds and the consulate, according to several people with knowledge of the exchanges
    Dance puppets, dance.

    oh geeze (5.00 / 1) (#84)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 01, 2017 at 02:38:39 PM EST
    just got home, turn on the teevee and there he is.  loving taxpayers etc etc.

    silly me.  we knew damn well he was a snake before we took him in.

    the show is surreal.  

    "I love the coal mines"

    this terd is so going down.  he just reenergized the rest of the world who is not sitting in that stupid rose garden.

    OMG (none / 0) (#85)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 01, 2017 at 02:51:14 PM EST
    we dont want others laughing at us.

    he actually said that.


    Jared is reported to (none / 0) (#87)
    by KeysDan on Thu Jun 01, 2017 at 03:13:03 PM EST
    have said that Trump says whatever because he believes Republicans are stupid and they will buy it.  Withdrawing from the Paris Accords is being sold as a bad deal, and it will be bought. Trump is in so much trouble that he dare not support his Inhoff-wacko, God will take care of us, wing of the party.  Today's insurance policy against impeachment.

    well (none / 0) (#89)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 01, 2017 at 03:19:01 PM EST
    some truth indeed.

    but the fact is a whole lot of republicans including his SoS did not want this.  he is playing to a shrinking peanut gallery.  

    as i said yesterday.  this is not news and will be forgotten by everyone except the White House staff and Fox & Friends as soon as another Russia headline drops in 3....2....


    oh dear lord (none / 0) (#90)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 01, 2017 at 03:34:51 PM EST
    a republican on MSNBC is saying the reason the right is happy is because what they really care about is the poor in the third world who have the right to buy fossil fuels at inflated prices, oh, wait, no, they have the right to burn fossil fuels to raise their standard of living that we, on the right, are so very concerned about.


    they dont even care about the laugh test any more.


    Trump wants a (none / 0) (#91)
    by KeysDan on Thu Jun 01, 2017 at 03:45:48 PM EST
    better deal. I think a change from the Paris Accord, to the Moscow Accord would work for the great negotiator.

    last nights FARGO (none / 0) (#92)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 01, 2017 at 03:54:54 PM EST
    opened with a great scene of the sinister bulimic Mr Varga opening and creepily examining all the presents under the abandoned Stussy christmas tree with a switchblade.

    cant explain why it seemed like a metaphor for the Trump administration but it did.

    maybe because i had to delay watching it to catch Al nailing Foghorn Leghorn on MSNBC.  shrug.


    and now (5.00 / 1) (#86)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 01, 2017 at 03:00:34 PM EST
    back to our regularly scheduled program of dismantling our embarrassing temporary oligarchy.

    hello 53,000 coal industry jobs (none / 0) (#88)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 01, 2017 at 03:13:39 PM EST
    goodbye half million+ renewably energy jobs.

    makin amurka gr8 agin


    Farewell Earth. (5.00 / 1) (#93)
    by Chuck0 on Thu Jun 01, 2017 at 04:05:11 PM EST
    It was good to know ye.

    so much of this is BS theater (none / 0) (#94)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 01, 2017 at 04:14:36 PM EST
    there is this -

    Mocking President Trump's understanding of the Paris Climate Accords, European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker says that President Trump can't exit the agreement.
    PRESIDENT JUNCKER:  "That's not how it works.  The Americans can't just leave the Climate Protection Agreement. Mr. Trump believes that because he doesn't get close enough to the dossiers to fully understand them. It would take three to four years after the agreement came into force in November 2016 to leave the agreement.

    the truth seems to be Trump will probably be gone before the Accords are.

    dont give up on the planet just yet


    Holy $hit, I'm rolling on the floor (none / 0) (#95)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Jun 01, 2017 at 04:18:16 PM EST
    What a damn fool

    John Kerry is p!ssed. Just saw him (5.00 / 2) (#97)
    by caseyOR on Thu Jun 01, 2017 at 05:42:26 PM EST
    on the CBS News, and he is hoppin' mad at Trump for pulling out of Paris Accords. I have not seen Kerry this visibly riled up since Vietnam.

    Many cities and states are pledging to continue with their plans to fight climate change, Trump be damned..


    I can't get out of Alabama fast enough (none / 0) (#101)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Jun 01, 2017 at 06:16:06 PM EST
    It is really going to be us and them. We used to kid about it, not kidding now. At least I can move, the poor here can't do anything except MAYBE vote.

    How soon are you out of there, MT? (none / 0) (#102)
    by caseyOR on Thu Jun 01, 2017 at 06:20:58 PM EST

    June 15 (none / 0) (#104)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Jun 01, 2017 at 06:21:56 PM EST
    I've found (5.00 / 1) (#108)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 01, 2017 at 07:09:30 PM EST
    Your experience of a state can really depend hugely on relatively small differences in your GPS coordinates.  My new house is only about 20 miles from my old house but it's a very different place.

    The first location was sort of coincidental.  My relatives found that house for me and it was a deal I could not pass up.  But it was really never a place I would have probably chosen to live.  Not that it really matters that much being a hermit.  As long as I have premium cable and broadband ...
    Pulse I always loved the actual property.  
    But it was a freakin dry county.  That's actually hard for most modern civilised Americans to even imagine.

    This, my new address, is not.  And it's surprising how much I think just that one thing changes everything.  

    I really feel I can sense the higher IQ in the very air.  It surprises almost daily how much more comfortable and sort of normal, compared to the rest if my life to this point, I feel here.


    Should add (none / 0) (#110)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 01, 2017 at 07:20:28 PM EST
    The trip to the liquor store (the state line) from my old house was actually shorter than it is now.

    It's the principal.  And the whole mentality of the thing.


    Boy I agree (none / 0) (#113)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Jun 01, 2017 at 08:58:09 PM EST
    Birmingham has a completely different feel to it for me. I could probably live there.

    There is no 4 lane access into Enterprise. I remember when we bought the house, the people we bought it from loved Enterprise for that reason. And I remember thinking to myself "What have I done?" I told myself it couldn't make that much of a difference. I couldn't have been more wrong. It would have been better to live in Dothan but it's a 20 mile commute for the workaholic. I didn't know when I would even see him.

    It has been very hard for me here. I am an extrovert, and that isn't common in blogging. But it was the only way to find my peeps because I only have one peep here. She is an Oregon transplant and her husband teaches at Troy. But that's it, one peep. Can't do it.

    We won't see the workaholic much in DC but there is everything to do there. And Josh is an extrovert too. We won't be home much. He has friends here in HS, he will miss them. But his closest friends are leaving also for Connecticut.

    I will miss this house, but that is all.


    My husband narrowly missed getting bit by a (none / 0) (#114)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Jun 01, 2017 at 09:01:21 PM EST
    Copperhead last week in the backyard. Second time. I won't miss the snakes.

    ha (none / 0) (#118)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jun 02, 2017 at 07:43:31 AM EST
    yeah.  the snakes.  i posted a view from my old back porch a while back and fishcamp remarked thaat i lived in the jungle.  but in that pic the jungle was far away.  here it comes right to the edge of the yard.  on every side.  unlike the other place, which was pretty ruralish in spite of being in the "city limits" here i have no visible neighbors.  even tho this is a more developed area it was developed and planned specificially with the idea of giving people teh feeling of seclusion.  and boy does this place have that.  mine is the only house on my street.  which is not uncommon for a lot of this little community.  a high percentage of residents are from other places.  refugees from cities.  there are pubs and liquor stores and coffee shops and highish end shopping for the summer crowd.

    but i do have snakes.  i chased a big one off the deck yesterday.


    reach out (5.00 / 1) (#119)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jun 02, 2017 at 08:01:12 AM EST
    I've lived in the humid South waaay too long (none / 0) (#121)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Jun 02, 2017 at 10:01:44 PM EST
    My first thought looking at that photo was Good seal on that wood railing, stay on that.

    ha (none / 0) (#122)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jun 03, 2017 at 07:09:54 AM EST
    the whole railing is being replaced.

    THEN  sealed


    John Kerry was at the (none / 0) (#120)
    by fishcamp on Fri Jun 02, 2017 at 12:52:04 PM EST
    Hunter S. Thompson memorial.  He's very easy to talk with, we spoke for twenty minutes or so.

    If Trump had agreed (none / 0) (#96)
    by KeysDan on Thu Jun 01, 2017 at 05:38:36 PM EST
    to stay in the Paris Accord, June 1, would have been hailed by the talking heads as the day (once again) as the day Trump became president.  

    While tremendously irresponsible, Trump's actions can still be reversed by votes in 2020, the 25th Amendment solution, or, revelations so bad that even Republicans in Congress will have to work on Articles of Impeachment.  The latter is likely with the drip, drip of information; easy connecting of the dots, and Trump's continuing unpopularity, enhanced by dropping out of the Paris Accords, supports impeachment.  


    All true, Dan, but the long term damage (5.00 / 1) (#98)
    by caseyOR on Thu Jun 01, 2017 at 05:47:22 PM EST
    to our position in the world will not be so easily reversed. Twice in a mere 16 years we have elected a President with little to no knowledge of nor regard for international agreements, laws, norms, traditions, etc.

    I fear our word as a sovereign nation is basically worthless.

    Fool them once . . .


    This is very true (none / 0) (#100)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 01, 2017 at 05:55:03 PM EST
    It can't even be fixed by electing a sane president.  If we can elect Trump there is absolutely nothing that is unimaginable

    Our idea of being the leader of the free world, if it was ever true, is gone.  Probably for good.  Certainly for our lifetime

    Drink it in


    This is truth, first Dubya then Trump (none / 0) (#103)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Jun 01, 2017 at 06:21:24 PM EST
    An unjust fabricated war that has created hundreds of thousands of refugees and terrorists. Now we are setting the planet on fire in a different way.

    American voters cannot be trusted. We have lost our place in the world and rightfully so. We are not trustworthy. We are no longer the beacon.


    I think MT was right (5.00 / 1) (#99)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 01, 2017 at 05:51:53 PM EST
    He knows he's going down and wants to do as much damage as possible before he does.

    A frightening thought as this progresses


    Bannon (none / 0) (#106)
    by FlJoe on Thu Jun 01, 2017 at 06:46:17 PM EST
    arises from the dead, seen smirking in the rose garden. Kushner and the rest of the cuck globalists retreat into the woodwork. Meanwhile the whole lot of them hope tRump hangs on long enough to hand out pardons.

    Viva la deconstruction!


    I just hope (none / 0) (#107)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 01, 2017 at 06:56:37 PM EST
    The bunker they all end up in has a live video feed

    Yes (none / 0) (#109)
    by FlJoe on Thu Jun 01, 2017 at 07:09:38 PM EST
    and tRump could have the Bigliest Reality show evah!

    Bonus for Bannon, Gorka et al, they can finally break out their Nazi uniform.

    What's not to like? It could be made into a monster, time to call up the honchos at NBC.


    Further, big states like California and New York have already put Trump on notice that they're going to be very uncooperative. So hopefully, Trump will be gone soon and sanity will ultimately prevail. Of course, I was saying the same thing at this time last year, so don't listen to me.

    And speaking of California, ... (none / 0) (#115)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Jun 01, 2017 at 09:08:46 PM EST
    ... Gov. Jerry Brown is off to China, where he seeks to elevate his state's stature as a practical and potent counterweight to the intellectual flyweight who sits in the Oval Office:

    Los Angeles Times | June 1, 2017
    Gov. Jerry Brown, America's unofficial climate change ambassador in the Trump era, heads to China - "When Gov. Jerry Brown flew across the Pacific four years ago to meet with leaders and business executives in China, the world seemed much different. President Obama had committed to fight the warming of the planet, while China remained a reluctant actor yet to take a firm stand. On Friday, when the seasoned California governor heads back to China for a series of business and government meetings, the political roles will have reversed. Now, it's China that is poised for global leadership. And as President Trump retreats from the nation's previous path on environmental policy, Brown has the distinction of being America's unofficial ambassador on climate change. 'Trump is going against science. He's going against reality,' Brown said in an interview with The Times on Wednesday. 'We can't stand by and give aid and comfort to that. We have to do what's right.'"

    Both Gov. Brown and even his predecessor Arnold Schwarzenegger have worked hard to develop good rapport and a working relationship between China and California, particularly on environmental issues. So much so, the Chinese have sought to base many of their own recent climate policy changes on the California model.

    And in the absence of responsible stewardship in Washington, Jerry Brown has become the adult in the room, and his presence on the world stage in Beijing at the clean energy an climate forum may prove to be significant.



    I'm tired of politics. (5.00 / 1) (#111)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Jun 01, 2017 at 07:48:04 PM EST
    We're heading off to Southern California tonight for 10 days of R & R, and a recharging of the batteries. It'll be nice to see everyone again and catch up.

    My parents-in-law will be in San Diego next week to visit with their youngest son and his wife, who just moved there from Texas in January after she accepted a branch management position with J.P. Morgan Chase. (It was actually a lateral move for her since that's what she was already doing for JPMC in Houston, but they really wanted to move to California and this opening afforded them the opportunity.) We'll spend a couple of days with them, too. They really like it down there.

    Elder Daughter informed us last night that we're to be grandparents again. The baby's due in early January. So, I'm in a good mood, the present state of the country notwithstanding.

    Anyway, I better finish up my last report here at work, so I can get home to finish packing. We depart Hilo at 9:10 p.m. and arrive at LAX tomorrow morning at about 5:00 a.m., and after we pick up the car, we'll be in Pasadena between 7:00-7:30 a.m., depending on traffic. I'm taking my laptop, so I can work on a few things at my leisure. But the rest is going to be playtime.


    Congratulations Donald (none / 0) (#116)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Jun 01, 2017 at 09:31:55 PM EST
    Have a good time, recharge

    Thank you, MT. (5.00 / 1) (#117)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Jun 02, 2017 at 02:34:48 AM EST
    And best of luck on your move to D.C. You said that you were looking for a house on the Maryland side, so where did you finally decide to live? Anyway, wherever it is, I'm sure that it'll be better than Alabama.

    We're flying United tonight (ugh!), and our plane was 30 min. late arriving into Hilo from LAX this evening, so we're running a wee bit late on departure. It's going to be a full flight, but we're in business class so we have a bit more room than we would have had we flown economy.

    Ciao 4 now.


    ruffian if you are out there (none / 0) (#1)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 30, 2017 at 03:21:18 PM EST
    or anyone else who understands

    what do you think of Gillian Andersens version version of The Many Faced God?

    im amazed.  her version of Bowie was amazing.  did they do something to her teeth to help her move her mouth exactly like him?

    since ive tried hard to avoid (none / 0) (#2)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 30, 2017 at 03:30:34 PM EST
    learning anything about the story one fun thing is to try to imagine who she will be next.  Rod Sterling?  Beaver Cleaver?





    I am not watching that crazy damn show (none / 0) (#22)
    by Militarytracy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 02:01:12 PM EST
    But doing drive bys. When I saw her all done up I did have to stop and drink that in.

    hooray (none / 0) (#3)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 30, 2017 at 04:38:42 PM EST
    Will we get a photo of the back of Trump (none / 0) (#23)
    by Militarytracy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 02:05:45 PM EST
    Standing before a window watching his missile intercepting and destroying the other guy's missile?

    Starting watching the new Netflix documentary (none / 0) (#4)
    by McBain on Tue May 30, 2017 at 08:30:51 PM EST
    series, The Keepers, about the murder of a nun in 1969. This article says it's better than "Making a Murderer".  After two episodes, I find it good and very disturbing.  Looks like a coverup.  

    After (none / 0) (#10)
    by FlJoe on Wed May 31, 2017 at 07:51:23 AM EST
    more than a year since tRump originally dropped his name and nearly that long trying to distance himself from him, he once again drops his name .

    President Trump went after Democrats early Wednesday, saying they no longer want Carter Page to testify in the investigation into the Russian election meddling.

    "So now it is reported that the Democrats, who have excoriated Carter Page about Russia, don't want him to testify," Trump tweeted Wednesday.

    "He blows away their...case against him & now wants to clear his name by showing "the false or misleading testimony by James Comey, John Brennan..." Witch Hunt!"

    TPM traces the source

    His tweet followed a brief segment on "Fox and Friends" reporting that Page sent a letter to the House Intelligence Committee on Monday claiming that the committee had delayed its plans to interview him. One of the hosts of "Fox and Friends" also highlighted a Tuesday night report from Fox News' Catherine Herridge that Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee had pushed for Page's testimony to be delayed, citing a "source familiar with the matter."

    Must be one of those non-fake source

    And I wholly agree here

    Since his ties to Russia have surfaced, Trump officials have tried to distance themselves from Page, making Trump's mention of Page on Wednesday morning somewhat peculiar.
    although I would drop the somewhat.

    question for the botanistas (none / 0) (#11)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 11:49:38 AM EST
    Looks like perhaps... (none / 0) (#12)
    by desertswine on Wed May 31, 2017 at 11:56:42 AM EST
    thanx (none / 0) (#13)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 12:02:17 PM EST
    i have, like, 20 of those

    Those flower stalks (none / 0) (#42)
    by jmacWA on Wed May 31, 2017 at 03:45:10 PM EST
    shoot up pretty quickly. An amazing plant

    If it dies after flowering (none / 0) (#18)
    by CoralGables on Wed May 31, 2017 at 01:44:42 PM EST
    it could be in the agave family

    i think the stalk dies (none / 0) (#38)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 03:17:12 PM EST
    not the plant.  there was a few stalks when in moved in.  hope MT is right and they multiply.  

    Should have read further (5.00 / 1) (#43)
    by jmacWA on Wed May 31, 2017 at 03:46:23 PM EST
    before my initial reply.

    Howdy, you are correct; these are definitely perennials.


    My plants have died after blooming (none / 0) (#63)
    by Militarytracy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 08:47:06 PM EST
    But they leave a baby behind, sometimes two.

    Yes, I should have added (none / 0) (#105)
    by CoralGables on Thu Jun 01, 2017 at 06:34:45 PM EST
    The original dies but pups will sprout at the base.

    It's Yucca filamentosa (none / 0) (#20)
    by Militarytracy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 01:47:10 PM EST
    I had 1 in my yard, now I have 5. Propagating like hens and chicks. They don't get the big rattling seed pods like yucca out west does.

    My husband got tired of them taking over a whole corner of the island in our yard and whacked the heck out of them. Their response was to bloom profusely. He's trauma bonded to them now. He has these long metal rods in the shop that he props their blooms up with. Our blooms get so tall sometimes they fall over. Men are weird though hahaha


    Whatever they are, you should ... (none / 0) (#30)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed May 31, 2017 at 02:23:04 PM EST
    ... probably douse them in gasoline and set them ablaze. Evil flourishes whenever good men stand by and do nothing.

    Campaigning against marriage equality ... (none / 0) (#29)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed May 31, 2017 at 02:18:47 PM EST
    ... in her native Australia, 24-time Grand Slam tennis champion Margaret Court says that her sport "is full of lesbians." (Sigh!) And in doing so, yet another sports legend diminishes her own stature with hateful and bigoted remarks.

    Now a pastor, Ms. Court serves only to highlight the difference between her own unyielding and dogmatic Christianist beliefs, and the actual message of peace, love and tolerance as preached by her own would-be savior, Jesus of Nazareth.

    What a shame and waste.

    This is just more of the same from Court. (none / 0) (#45)
    by caseyOR on Wed May 31, 2017 at 05:02:52 PM EST
    She has been spouting homophobic slurs about the women's tour for decades. The difference now is that her position is no longer the socially acceptable one.

    ... to Margaret Court since she retired from the circuit back in the day. I'd simply point out to her -- and any morons who take her seriously -- that it took one of those "tennis lesbians," Billie Jean King, to rescue and restore the credibility of the women's tour in a Sept. 1973 match with 55-year-old Bobby Riggs (the subject of an upcoming movie starring Emma Stone and Steve Carrell), four months after Mrs. Court single-handedly undermined it with her own shameful Mother's Day pratfall against Riggs.

    i think Orange will NOT (none / 0) (#44)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 04:05:44 PM EST
    withdraw from the Paris Climate Accords.

    he might do some CYA about renegotiating but maybe not even that.

    under any normal circumstances he would but he needs a good story.  he really needs a positive news cycle.  and he needs something for the press to talk about besides Russia.  if he withdraws its  1 hour story.  if he does anything else it will be covered.  plus the "base" who want this will take what he gives them and like it.

    i believe, press manipulator he is, he will suprise.  if he doesnt he is seriously dangerously unstable and really does have a death wish that forces him to bully against his own interest.

    I think he pulls (none / 0) (#51)
    by Militarytracy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 05:27:28 PM EST
    Because the majority of us want him to stay in. He wants to hurt everyone right now. He's so pissed we all don't adore him. And now that damn Comey is going to testify.  He wants to hurt someone somehow any way he can.

    Just caught the last 5 minutes (none / 0) (#60)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 07:06:37 PM EST
    Of Hardball.  There is this segment where those present supposedly give Tweety some "inside" information not widely known.

    Jonathan Swan (tool) says 'Trump is going to withdraw from Paris deal.  Plans are in place.  Speeches are being drafted and redrafted (imagine British accent there), the announcement time has been set, the EPA in internally working on the mechanism ....'

    Which all makes more sure it's a head fake right out of Art of the Deal that they would bait this tool Swan with fake "inside info" and then pull a big surprise

    Plus Howard Fineman sez it's true because the Russians want the polar ice caps to melt for drilling purposes.  Which was actually sadly believable.


    I'm forced to speculate that Swan Is full of it (none / 0) (#69)
    by Militarytracy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 09:09:02 PM EST
    Simply because it's hard for me to fathom that a Trump speech is drafted....but then redrafted, bull$h*t

    Trump will announce the Paris (none / 0) (#66)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 08:56:37 PM EST
    Decision tomorrow at 3.

    Announced in a tweet he managed to stay awake for entirely

    He's trying to capture the media narrative (none / 0) (#68)
    by Militarytracy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 09:05:42 PM EST
    If he wasn't such a tiny ham handed lunatic he could even be successful at that a few times, but Nah! Can't control those tiny ham fists

    If by some miracle (none / 0) (#71)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 09:18:47 PM EST
    He does not withdraw he will capture it.

    Until at least 5 pm or so


    Everytime my husband watches Sully he sniffles (none / 0) (#67)
    by Militarytracy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 09:01:14 PM EST
    And gets all teary


    FBI (none / 0) (#72)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 09:22:20 PM EST
    investigating if Sessions had yet another as yet undisclosed meeting with the Russian Ambassador.  Undisclosed EVEN in his revised testimony to the Senate.

    Al Franken is going to be on Lawrence to discuss this.

    Why won't Franken run for President? (5.00 / 1) (#75)
    by Militarytracy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 09:36:55 PM EST
    I hate this (5.00 / 1) (#76)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 09:39:19 PM EST
    I wanna watch FARGO

    Wow (5.00 / 3) (#79)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 09:55:44 PM EST
    Sessions sounds totally nailed.  Franken is not being collegial.  He knew about this.  He has been communicating with the FBI.  He and Lehey requested the FBI investigate this meeting and possibly others.   It seems like Franken is totally the force behind this coming out.

    Go Al.


    He was one of the Senators who (none / 0) (#80)
    by Militarytracy on Wed May 31, 2017 at 10:03:40 PM EST
    Requested everything the White House could give him on Trump/Russia before Obama left office. There was someone else who requested it and got it too, but I'm so darned tired tonight I can't remember who else got all the intel too. Can't even remember if it's another Senator or a Congressman, all I remember is it's a Democrat.

    Franken Goes After His Friend (none / 0) (#82)
    by RickyJim on Thu Jun 01, 2017 at 09:43:17 AM EST
    I rarely voted with Jeff when he was a senator. And that's fine. Senators disagree. But I knew that as attorney general he would represent a clear and present danger to the civil rights of millions of Americans. And his confirmation hearing would be my opportunity to raise that alarm. Which I did, without apology, calling him out for overstating his involvement in civil rights cases and holding his feet to the fire on Donald Trump's fearmongering about voter fraud (which, of course, is nothing more than a pretext for voter suppression). And then I voted against him.
    Jeff Sessions is my friend (or was). Franni is friends with his wife, Mary. When our grandson, Joe, was born, Mary knit him a baby-blue blanket, which became his favorite.
    It's hard to unfairly demonize someone whose wife knit your grandson his favorite blankie. Which is why when my job meant doing everything in my power to deny my friend this important position, I was relieved that there was so much to fairly demonize him for.
    From the new book, "Al Franken, Giant of the Senate". I just read the book and it is both funny and informative.