Monday Madness and Open Thread

Sorry for the lack of blogging the last several days, but every time I read the news, there is so much more Trump madness I get too disgusted to write about it.

This weekend I watched Kate del Castillo's "The Day I Met El Chapo" a three part documentary on Netflix. Sean Penn wanted to block it saying it would endanger him. Then he said she was a fame seeker and her version was a lie. He told his version, why can't she tell hers? Anyway, it's very good -- I ended up watching the whole thing twice. To me, her version makes more sense.

Two weeks (or so) until the TL kids have their baby -- it's just flown by. I've cooked about 15 meals for them in my Instant Pot to freeze and eat after the baby arrives. It's been more far rewarding than blogging about Trump.

This is the last week (for real) of Senor de Los Cielos 5. (warning: auto-play video.) I really don't want Monica Robles to be killed. They should kill the monster Tony Pastrana instead.

Here's a new open thread, all topics welcome.

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    Jeralyn, just out of curiosity, (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by NYShooter on Mon Oct 23, 2017 at 02:44:40 PM EST
    of all the drug Kingpins in Mexico & South America, what is it about Joaquin Guzman that has peeked your interest so much? Don't get me wrong, I love it. The exhaustive research and detail you've exhibited in your writings here, I've read every word....fascinating!

    Oh, and, your writing about what's happening in the Middle East......same thing. I know it's really, really complicated, and, it doesn't get many comments, but, I just want you to know I read it all. It's too complicated for me also (all those names of Syrian towns, cities, and, regions, Wow! Who can keep' em straight? Anyway, it's really, extremely important, what with so many entities involved: Syria, (the gov't, and rebels, both, pro & con Assad,) U.S.A., Russia, Iran, Turkey, Kurds, Iraq, Israel? Saudi Arabia? Now that the end is getting close (Mosul in Iraq, now Raqqa in Syria, liberated) and ISIS, seemingly, on the run.......dangerous times ahead. Everyone wants a "piece" of Syria's riches (mainly oil,) can't see how it ends peacefully.

    Sorry for the brown nosing, but, I don't care. I may only understand 1% but, I read 100%.

    Please,keep it up.

    thank you so much (5.00 / 2) (#7)
    by Jeralyn on Mon Oct 23, 2017 at 07:17:01 PM EST
    for your comment. I know those posts don't generate many comments here but it is gratifying to know someone reads them -- they take so many hours to research and write. Sometimes they are so complicated (factually) I end up not publishing them because I run out of time to proofread them and just save them on my computer.

    I've always been interested in the cartel dynamics because so much of my practice for so many years has been defending large drug trafficking cases. It's not just El Chapo but the entire Sinalaoa cartel and its spinoffs and wars I'm interested in -- and the deals given to cooperating traffickers.

    Sometimes, as with ISIS and some other cases I write about over and over, it's just the "sleuther" in me, and my personal need to fact-check the Govt. version and point out mainstream media sloppiness when they get it wrong.


    Jeralyn, thanks a bunch, (none / 0) (#9)
    by NYShooter on Mon Oct 23, 2017 at 10:50:44 PM EST
    I've been reading Colonel Pat Lang's Blog: Sic Semper Tyrannis........ LINK

    He sounds like he really know this stuff, and, the commenters all seem to be very knowledgeable.

    I try to keep up, maybe they'll come out with "Syria & The M.E. For Dummies."


    Interesting blog, Shooter (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by jondee on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 06:58:07 AM EST
    Thanks for the heads up.

    Trump "but" in. (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by KeysDan on Mon Oct 23, 2017 at 06:16:30 PM EST
    The sentencing hearing of Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl was postponed today until Wednesday.  In the past Trump has described Bergdahl as a "dirty rotten traitor. and called for him to executed by firing squad or thrown from a plane minus a parachute."

    In the Rose Garden, on Oct 16, Trump said he "could not talk about the case, BUT, he added, I think people have heard my comments in the past."  

    Prosecutors claimed Trump was distancing himself in the Rose Garden and that the "but" did not undermine that attempt.  The military judge remarked that there is a vital interest in maintaining confidence in the military justice system.

     Those past comments of the but part, were made while Trump was a candidate, but by alluding to them recently, as president, may have reactivated his position. Bergdahl pleaded guilty last week to misbehavior before the enemy and desertion. He spent five years in Taliban jail, in a cage and as tortured.

    Bob Corker (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 08:57:01 AM EST

    If you did not just see this find it.  He just scorched Trump.  Live on camera.

    CNN (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 10:16:11 AM EST
    Corkie (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 10:24:57 AM EST
    is on tv again right now doubling down and twisting the knife.

    this is important.   its the most direct unfiltered and honest thing i have heard a republican say since Mitch said their one goalwas to make Obama a one term president.


    Corker's attacks on Trump are (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by Anne on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 10:49:12 AM EST
    meaningless as long as Corker continues to support the Trump agenda - I mean, has Corker voted "no" on anything related to Trump that's come to the Senate floor for a vote?  

    I don't think so.

    So, Corker supported all the GOP versions of Repeal and Replace, he voted through all of Trump's nominees, I'm guessing he'll vote "yes" on the tax bill.  I haven't heard him complaining about the EPA's mission pivoting from protecting the environment to protecting Scott Pruitt, no word from Corker on trying to hamstring the CFPB, or water down Dodd-Frank.  He doesn't seem bothered by any Trump policies, just the way Trump works.

    So, Corker's problem isn't with what Trump represents, it's with the man himself.  If Pence was the president, Corker would be keeping a cork in it, and doing his good little Republican duty just as he has all along.

    So, absent Corker developing some principles, all this is is just more reality show entertainment.


    That in a nutshell (none / 0) (#18)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 11:00:31 AM EST
    is the problem with personality politics. As long as they act sane there is not a problem with what they do.

    he will vote no on the tax cut (none / 0) (#19)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 11:15:43 AM EST
    i am more sure than ever that taxes are dead.  Corker is a no.  i believe Paul a no.  one more, and there are more than that, its dead.

    thats important because its the last hope of the republicans have for the midterms.

    beyond that, i do not agree its meaningless.  no republican has done this.

    that makes it important.


    If taxes are dead, (none / 0) (#32)
    by NYShooter on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 02:19:42 PM EST
    so will be the stock market.

    I'm sure you've observed the skyrocketing stock market over the past months. I won't bore you with the details as to why, other than to reiterate that the market moves in lockstep with Corporate profits. Get rid of regulations.......pollute the planet, workplace safety ignored, disease & illness accelerates...., profits go up, and, so does the market.

    This has been going on for months now. The market has discounted, by now, almost everything Trump has done to increase profits, while, simultaneously, decreasing the standard of living for most Americans.  

    So, like a cadaver dog going around sniffing for a corpse, the market goes sniffing each day for another reason to go up. Right now that reason is the tax cuts being debated in Congress.

    So far, the market is smelling another 1% victory ahead.

    Nuts, isn't it? Used to be when the markets went up it meant the economy was doing good, and, workers could look forward to better days. Now, as workers' pay, benefits, and, futures are decimated, it's all good....profits increase, and, the markets continue to defy gravity.

    BTW, 85% of the cash fueling the markets these days is provided by 1% of the cannibals, oops, sorry, "investors."


    The wall street boys (none / 0) (#33)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 02:24:33 PM EST
    Are on an sugar high.  They always end.

    BTW (none / 0) (#38)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 02:41:31 PM EST
    Flake was another nail in the coffin.

    Ship of Fools... (none / 0) (#60)
    by kdog on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 05:10:20 PM EST
    Went to see the captain, strangest I could find,
    Laid my proposition down, laid it on the line.
    I won't slave for beggar's pay, likewise gold and jewels,
    But I would slave to learn the way to sink your ship of fools.

    Ship of Fools


    Flake (5.00 / 1) (#93)
    by KeysDan on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 11:13:50 PM EST

    Exactly, Anne. Thank you. (none / 0) (#63)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 05:27:43 PM EST
    We ought to remember that Sen. Corker also endorsed Trump last year. Sure, he regrets it now, but the writing about Trump was on the wall a year ago and he ignored it:

    Bob Corker stood with a smile
    Next to Donald Trump who was vile
    And backed him for POTUS.
    He later drew notice
    For grumbling once in a while

    About Donald Trump who had nerve
    To confess to the world he's a perv.
    It's appalling Trump's style
    Is cruel, mean and vile.
    Thanks to Bob, he's in D.C. to serve.

    I'm long over guys like Bob Corker and Jeff Flake being lionized by the media for having finally summoned up the courage to state the already painfully obvious about Trump.

    Don't get me wrong, I do appreciate the fact that they both did speak out at this point. But it shouldn't necessarily follow that they deserve the gratuitous praise they're receiving, simply for having belatedly reached a conclusion which a decided majority of American voters had already offered up to the GOP a year ago.



    thats an odd take (none / 0) (#64)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 05:35:04 PM EST
    on the glaringly obvious importance of the fact Corker was an early supporter.

    my own view is it makes what he is now doing more important.  not less.

    but thats just me.


    But I'm under no illusion about who Bob Corker really is and what he stands for. After all, his is the sort of unyielding conservative ideology is what first led him to support Trump to begin with.

    I'm not going to praise him (and Sen. Flake) unduly for having finally arrived at a place where the rest of us have already long been.

    I'm just happy that they eventually recognized Trump's dangerously intemperate incompetence for what it really was, and fled the scene accordingly.



    If I have given anyone (none / 0) (#78)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 07:47:52 PM EST
    The impression I was under any illusions about who Corker is and what he has stood for

    Or for that matter that I am "praising him unduly"

    I can only suggest you re-read my comments.


    To make that point Donald (5.00 / 1) (#80)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 09:14:42 PM EST
    I would point out something contemptible that is being "praised unduly".

    Flake, who btw I put in a different box from Corker because he was going to lose and Corker would have won if he ran, has written an op-ed in the Washington post.  This is the last line-

    For the next 14 months, relieved of the strictures of politics, I will be guided only by the dictates of conscience.

    Which is about as craven an admission as I have ever heard.


    Trump lapdog and buttboy (none / 0) (#16)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 10:45:46 AM EST
    Devin Nunes is announcing a distraction from Bob Corker,  uh, I mean an investigation into the "uranium deal"

    Special Counsel Mueller (none / 0) (#23)
    by KeysDan on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 11:51:44 AM EST
    should investigate all the Republican office holders, including Nunes, for purposes of ascertaining reasons for their obstructive tactics.  Maybe, just protecting their party's political fortunes, or maybe, something else.  In either case, they may be obstructing the mining of truth....truth that is critical to the Russian cyber war.

    A person can't even go to lunch (none / 0) (#27)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 12:42:37 PM EST
    Without missing the next Trump swingfest.

    Or take a nap (none / 0) (#31)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 02:17:05 PM EST
    NYTimes does a forensic analysis of video (5.00 / 1) (#20)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 11:26:24 AM EST
    and audio files from the Vegas shooting and put together a timeline here.

    completey different timeline (none / 0) (#73)
    by linea on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 07:29:34 PM EST
    especially the shots fired in the hallway. also the police contibute to the problem by telling people to `get down' rather than evacuating them from the area (which also prevents others from leaving). and in this video they are seen directing fleeing concert goers back into the target area because it is away from the SOUND of the gunfire.

    John (Empty Barrel) Kelly, (5.00 / 3) (#22)
    by KeysDan on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 11:42:51 AM EST
    Why is he still chief of staff?  Does the "sacred" not include truth telling?  The Mooch was canned (with Kelly's sacred blessings) in just 10 days, before he officially started...his sin being his barnyard takes to New Yorker on the "paranoia" of Priebus and the challenging acrobatic capabilities  ascribed to Bannon. While the truthfulness of either allegation is unknown and their earthiness unsuitable for polite company, they, at least, compete with Kelly's lies.

      Kelly's wading waist-deep into the morass Trump created, achieved the seeming unachievable of topping the indecorousness of Trump.

    In its editorial (Oct. 14, 2017), the NYTimes calls on Kelly to "Honor the Truth."  The editorial recounts aspects of the episode and appears disappointed in Kelly's not bringing some dignity to the undignified. And, faults him for sticking to his falsehoods...indeed doubling down.  However, the editorial, while building up to a logical conclusion, lets the reader down.  The missing last paragraph, should have read: and, it is time for Kelly to go.

    with all the talk (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by CST on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 12:28:52 PM EST
    about sexual harassment in the workplace, the one place where it is not only accepted but expected, maybe even more-so than Hollywood, is the restaurant industry.  Anyone who has ever worked in a restaurant can tell you that it's rampant - along with numerous other "social ills" that generally affect the people working there (drug problems, low wages, crazy hours, crazy people, power tripping, etc...).

    So with that in mind, this is somewhat encouraging.  Not that it happened - but the fact that people care enough to actually act on it now.  Hopefully we'll see more of this kind of action in the future, with real consequences for the people involved.  Maybe I'm being overly optimistic but it does seem like there may be a sea change happening where you can no longer expect to get away with this cr@p without repercussions.  If they're talking about it here - an industry where the culture as a whole really doesn't care about the well being of the employees - that's telling.

    I'm glad you (none / 0) (#28)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 02:04:18 PM EST
    said this. I have a high school classmate that went to the CIA and at one time owned his own restaurant. The misogyny just spews in every Facebook post but I did not know if it was just him or endemic in the entire restaurant industry. I have no experience with that industry so I did not know. However it seems like this is frankly a problem everywhere.

    A lot of the time (none / 0) (#35)
    by CST on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 02:31:47 PM EST
    You will see that people treat owning a restaurant as their own little fiefdom where they can do whatever they want, and treat people however they want, because they own the place.  I'm sure that's true to an extent in other businesses too, but something about restaurants definitely lends itself to that behavior.

    Selling alcohol has a bit to do with it, but I think it's mostly the fact that it's a place where you would "hang out" as the owner, drinking and eating for free, vs say a clothing store or something like that where the owner would only be there if they were actually working.  Owning a restaurant becomes almost more of a lifestyle.  So they're there "hanging out" drinking and bossing everyone around.  Combine that with a generally younger staff - or staff with less economic mobility - and people start power tripping.

    Doesn't have to be the owner, sometimes the managers are even worse.  Obviously this is #notallrestaurants, but it's incredibly common.


    Let the profiteering begin! (5.00 / 2) (#26)
    by desertswine on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 12:39:10 PM EST
    Puerto Rico has agreed to pay a reported $300 million for the restoration of its power grid to a tiny utility company which is primarily financed by a private equity firm founded and run by a man who contributed large sums of money to President Trump, an investigation conducted by The Daily Beast has found.
    Whitefish Energy Holdings, which had a reported staff of only two full-time employees when Hurricane Maria touched down, appears ill-equipped to handle the daunting task of restoring electricity to Puerto Rico's over 3 million residents.

    Whitefish has ties to Interior Sec Zinke and others. Whitefish is located in Zinke's hometown of Whitefish, Monatana.

    Can we get rid of these people now, please.  Most corrupt evah.

    Ship of Fools... (none / 0) (#61)
    by kdog on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 05:16:41 PM EST
    The bottles stand as empty, as they were filled before.
    Time there was and plenty, but from that cup no more.
    Though I could not caution all, I still might warn a few:
    Don't lend your hand to raise no flag atop no ship of fools.

    Flake delivers KO (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by Boo Radly on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 02:14:13 PM EST
    To tRump - long, detailed - don''t miss it in all it's glorious facts!

    Followed by McCain (none / 0) (#30)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 02:16:32 PM EST
    And fear and loathing in the republican ranks.

    And significantly (none / 0) (#34)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 02:25:47 PM EST
    Mitch McConnell

    Pretty sure Trump - and Bannon - will (none / 0) (#36)
    by Anne on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 02:32:50 PM EST
    consider Flake's flaking out to be a victory for the hard right, but here's hoping it opens the door for a credible and electable Democrat to enter the fray.

    I seem to recall that the GOP candidate being pushed by Trunp/Bannon is not getting support from two Breitbart alumni who originally joined her campaign:

    This past April, two Breitbart alumni joined the campaign of Kelli Ward, an insurgent conservative preparing to challenge Republican Sen. Jeff Flake on a familiar Trump-style platform to "drain the swamp" and "Make America Great Again."


    Ward's mission statement hasn't changed. Her policy positions haven't changed. Her speeches haven't changed. But Lawrence and Stockton now doubt her commitment to their brand of conservatism. Stockton is tweeting that Ward will give up "people, principles, ideas [and] laws" to win political office. In a statement, Lawrence and Stockton said that their initial decision to support Ward by "legitimizing her campaign" in 2016 and continuing to run outreach efforts this year had been a massive error. "We are sorry to the #MAGA activists and the people of Arizona because they deserve better candidates."

    Good sign?  Bad sign?  Who knows?


    Chuck Todd agrees this is bad (none / 0) (#37)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 02:39:57 PM EST

    I would say it's bad for the republican party.  But not for Chucks reason.  The split has started.  It had not ended.

    As for AZ I think our chances just improved.


    I fully expect (none / 0) (#44)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 03:23:19 PM EST
    an all holy war to start raging here in GA. Nathan Deal is retiring and this religious freedom thing is really big here with the evangelicals. They patched everything together enough in 2010 and 2014 to win. The first time religious freedom came up for a vote it couldn't get out of the house because of a moderate Republican who would not vote for it. the 2nd time it made it through the house and the senate but Deal vetoed it. So I expect them to be raging about this and if they out number the business Republicans they are going to nominate a real nut like Roy Moore for governor. Being GA you never know but that nut could win office and boy what a mess we are going to have if that happens.

    There are going to be (none / 0) (#47)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 03:35:04 PM EST
    Loony primary challengers who might win then there will be (republican) retirements.  This is just beginning.

    Speaking of Flake and Chuck (none / 0) (#48)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 03:37:11 PM EST
    Flake will be on with Chuck at 4

    It's (none / 0) (#59)
    by FlJoe on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 05:08:22 PM EST
    not all bad for the GOP today
    Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.) said President Trump's meeting with GOP senators Tuesday was "positive" and that "nobody called anyone an ignorant slut."
    just a few polite "fking moron" I suppose.

    Flake's (and Corker's) quitting... (none / 0) (#51)
    by desertswine on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 04:01:24 PM EST
    Just leaves the field open for the Nazis.  But, yes, just maybe the Democrats can make something, anything out of this.

    It does (none / 0) (#53)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 04:10:18 PM EST
    But it also is the beginning of the split of the republican party.  Chuck Todd is hyperventilating about Trump and Bannon winning.

    IMO it will be a pyrrhic victory.  

    The republicans who leave will not die.  They will go to another party.  If Trump runs again he will be primaried.   If he wins there will be an independent candidate.  John Kasich is already hinting at this.

    This is good.

    And it will be good on Senate races too.  The looney Bannon army is coming.  Many will win and most will then loss.  And then retirements already rumored.


    Sadly......lost in our focus (5.00 / 1) (#65)
    by NYShooter on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 06:09:35 PM EST
    on the Republican immolation apparently taking place is the Democratic (DNC) failure to "seize the moment" and rebuild the Party into something the public craves, and, that Franklin Roosevelt envisioned.

    It seems they have decided that "Republican Lite" is the wave of the future, and, that voters will reject progressive ideas. DNC Chair, Tom Perez, is purging the last remnants of left-leaning members, and, doubling down on the Neo-Lib ideology that failed so miserably, and resulted in so many defeats over the past decades.

    It appears The Wall Street/Corporate/Military Oligarchy has succeeded in it's takeover of what was once, affectionately, referred to as, "The Working Folk's Party." Tom Perez has seen the future, and, it sure doesn't include, "The Working Man." Under that banner, during the Twentieth Century, Democrats controlled 28 Congresses, regardless of which Party the President belonged to.

    And, then, came Ronald Reagan, and, his phony, "Morning in America." And, America would never be the same again.

    January, 1993, William Jefferson Clinton was elected President, and, with him, The "New Democratic Party." Tutored by Larry Summers & Robert Rubin, spiritual icons of the new Democratic Party, they taught him that it didn't matter whether the Republican Party or the Democratic Party was in power. The real Party that controlled America was "The Bond Party." They convinced him that deregulating financial markets, a Federal Reserve that provided "easy money," and, an attitude of, "let markets be markets," would be the magic elixir leading to prosperity forever.

    Thus, we witnessed the death of what had always differentiated Democrats from Republicans. People, simply, didn't matter anymore, Markets would solve everything.

    So, here we are. Regardless of what you thought about Bernie Sanders, he proved there was an energetic, progressive desire for change in millions of Americans. Even the macabre election of a fascist, racist, imbecilic, demigod like the "moron" Trump showed the desire for change.

    Unfortunately, it seems like the current Democratic Leadership, rather than seizing this golden opportunity, have adopted the philosophy of, "I got mine, the hell with everyone else."


    change is not (5.00 / 2) (#75)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 07:39:13 PM EST
    going to happen top down like that. As far as the DNC goes I'm not completely up on what happened but I understand that a lot of people that were gotten rid of were people who wanted the party go to 100% to caucuses to pick a nominee. As I'm sure you know those are the most undemocratic way of picking a nominee.

    Once you start winning elections the DNC will notice. Join an indivisible group or an organization where you can advocate for candidates.


    Yup (5.00 / 2) (#96)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Oct 25, 2017 at 06:06:21 AM EST
    And caucuses suppress 1 man 1 vote

    Then (none / 0) (#97)
    by FlJoe on Wed Oct 25, 2017 at 06:08:53 AM EST
    again, never interrupt the enemy when he is making a mistake.

    IMO, even if the DNC came out with a fantastic progressive "plan" it would be ignored by both the media  and the masses. In any case there is little evidence that Democrats could ever march in the lockstep that the Republicans are able to achieve.


    If Flake or Corker (none / 0) (#54)
    by Chuck0 on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 04:46:38 PM EST
    had any real backbone or cojones, they would switch parties today and throw the Senate to a 50/50 splitn

    that would be great (none / 0) (#56)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 04:56:06 PM EST
    but INO it is not a reasonable or realistic expectation.

    they are standing up for the party and they are both conservative republicans.

    they will most likely both vote against tax cuts which will amoubt to the sme thing.  if they dont get tax cuts many things might change.  Trump will no longer be defended in the hope of getting tax cuts.


    I hope you (none / 0) (#57)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 04:59:47 PM EST
    are right about tax cuts. I'm just not all that sure.

    Well, except these two are (none / 0) (#58)
    by Anne on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 05:01:46 PM EST
    doctrinaire establishment Republicans, and if Pence or Ryan or Kasich or any other establishment Republican was president, neither would be taking any stands, and both would continue to vote for the things that have been coming before them since Trump took office.

    Neither wants Dems to prevail over the Trump agenda, they just want to work with someone who puts a more polite and civil and seemingly rational face on what we all know are regressive, cruel and failed policies.

    Will Bannon-approved candidates be successful in 2018?  Or will they be seen as so radical and rabid that no one reasonably sane will be able to vote for them?

    I just hope the Dems will put up candidates who offer an alternative that isn't just crazy-lite.


    of course they are (none / 0) (#62)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 05:16:51 PM EST
    they are repblicans.  conservative republicans.  they are not going to support the things i support.  and as far as i am concerned they do not have to.  right now the problem is Trump.  anyone who is his enemy is my friend.  its that simple.  

    saying these guys are not oing enough because they wont support my agenda or switch parties is IMO completely missing the point.

    what has been happening in the last few days is going into the history books.  McCain, Bush, Corker now Flake.  btw Corker is supposed to be very friendly with Tillerson who recently called the president a fu@king moron and then refused to deny he did it.

    this is important.

    as far as democrats, everything i read says democratic recruiting is off the charts.  they are getting outstanding candidate at every level from school boars to senate.  this is another indicator of the good news to come.  

    this is the time, Nacny p explained this the other day, when decisions are made to run or retire.   democrats are running.  republicans are retiring.


    To me, it seems like it's going to be (5.00 / 2) (#82)
    by Anne on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 09:27:14 PM EST
    a race to see whether the chaos that these departures are bringing to the GOP, together with the possibility that Dems might be able to win more seats, will prevail over the possibility that the departing Republicans will be replaced with Republicans eager to advance the Trump agenda.

    I don't know which way this is going, but I think Republicans returning to Clinton investigations is a sign that they are desperate to find something, anything, to both unite the Republican caucus, and change the narrative away from Republican disarray.

    I don't think they can successfully change the subject unless and until Trump stops being Trump, he breaks his Twitter habit, and can hold a position for more than 24 hours.

    And of course, the Mueller investigation, when and if it ever comes to a conclusion, is going to blow everything up, and we're going to look back on where we are now and realize we had no idea what real chaos looked like.


    Flake (none / 0) (#55)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 04:49:57 PM EST
    definitely makes Arizona a possibility. If the polling in Alabama is right then I would imagine the polling has to be worse for the GOP in the more purplish states.  

    Such a dull news day (5.00 / 1) (#39)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 02:54:31 PM EST
    I hope you saw the guy who threw little Russian flags and screamed at Donald when he made his grand entrance.

    I'm pretty sure Mitch is smiling (5.00 / 1) (#40)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 02:56:02 PM EST
    In that picture.  Hard to tell since I've never seen him smile before.

    Jeebus H. Krist... (5.00 / 2) (#41)
    by desertswine on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 03:01:02 PM EST
    but Sarah Huckabee Sanders is repulsive.

    She's a true believer with a mean streak; (5.00 / 2) (#49)
    by Anne on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 03:51:10 PM EST
    the perfect combination, no?

    Her father must be so proud.


    She has the look of (none / 0) (#42)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 03:07:11 PM EST
    A cornered animal.

    Even more than usual.


    You know that (none / 0) (#45)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 03:25:03 PM EST
    family so I'm gonna take your word for it. Personally I never watch her because she sounds like she lives in alternative universe.

    And what's with the cleavage (none / 0) (#43)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 03:08:49 PM EST
    Not something you see that much of in such settings.

    aaarrggghhh! cleavaage!!! (5.00 / 1) (#50)
    by desertswine on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 03:57:49 PM EST
    Maybe (1.00 / 1) (#52)
    by FlJoe on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 04:01:54 PM EST
    she is looking for some grabby action.

    both (none / 0) (#69)
    by linea on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 07:20:37 PM EST
    And what's with the cleavage
    by CaptHowdy

    by FlJoe
    she is looking for some grabby action.

    inane and childish comments. imo.


    Thank you (none / 0) (#70)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 07:25:31 PM EST
    I'll (none / 0) (#95)
    by FlJoe on Wed Oct 25, 2017 at 05:50:43 AM EST
    fess up to being a sick puppy.....however I do not work for the president. What SHB and the rest of of them do on a daily basis is a real travesty, and when people are lying to my face on a daily basis I reserve the right to hit back with inappropriate but harmless jokes. I would be probably be spitting in their face if I ever met them face to face.

    US Senate candidate (R. AL) (5.00 / 1) (#46)
    by KeysDan on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 03:26:12 PM EST
    Roy Moore believes the Supreme Court decision on same sex marriage is "even worse" than the infamous Dred Scott decision.  This is surprising,  I would have thought Moore would have thought quite well of Dred Scoot....he is much more progressive than I thought, having evolved to theocratic kleptocracy.

    D.C.Circuit comes through 9-3 (5.00 / 5) (#81)
    by Peter G on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 09:17:54 PM EST
    to order the Tr*mpsters to allow that poor 15-yr-old ICE detainee to get her abortion. Subject to whether Chief Justice Roberts would grant the DOJ lawyers a stay. I'll go out on a limb and suggest that Roberts won't want to get the Supremes involved.

    That poor girl got the abortion (5.00 / 2) (#106)
    by caseyOR on Wed Oct 25, 2017 at 11:35:01 AM EST
    this morning according to the ACLU.

    My understanding is that this is not a single isolated case, that more girls are being denied the abortion they want and have a right to.


    I hope you're right, Peter. (none / 0) (#83)
    by Anne on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 09:32:22 PM EST
    I think this young woman - I believe she's 17 - is already 16 weeks or so along, which means she only has a short 8 weeks until she's into her third trimester, when things get dicey.

    I get a knot in my stomach thinking about the trauma this young woman is being subjected to, and I get angry thinking about how this is apparently of little importance to those trying to prevent her from terminating the pregnancy.


    Me too (none / 0) (#84)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 09:36:43 PM EST
    I have heard talking heads who are less sure of the SC outcome.

    But they are not Peter so I have hope.


    Yeah, sorry, I got the # of weeks pregnant (none / 0) (#85)
    by Peter G on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 09:54:28 PM EST
    mixed up with the # of yrs old. Not that good at numbers, really.

    Yesterday's "heroes" - Flake and (5.00 / 3) (#98)
    by Anne on Wed Oct 25, 2017 at 07:35:57 AM EST
    Corker - reliably voted for the bill taking away consumers' rights to file class action lawsuits against financial institutions and forcing consumers to agree to arbitration to resolve disputes.  I'm sure Wells Fargo and Equifax will be appropriately grateful.

    Pence had to step in to break the tie vote because two Republicans - Graham and Kennedy - voted with Democrats, against the bill.

    Corker and Flake are noise.  Sound and fury, signifying nothing.  It does no good to loudly bash Trump and quietly vote the agenda.

    Fats Domino, R.I.P. (5.00 / 1) (#108)
    by fishcamp on Wed Oct 25, 2017 at 02:15:08 PM EST

    Speaking as a white American, I never knew that I had it so bad:
    USA Today | October 25, 2017
    Majority of white Americans feel discriminated against: poll - " majority of white Americans believe discrimination exists against them in the United States, according to a poll released Tuesday. The poll, conducted by NPR, the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation and the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, found that 55% of whites surveyed believe that 'discrimination against white people exists in the U.S. today.' Of those white Americans surveyed, only a small percentage say they've experienced discrimination firsthand. Among whites, 19% said they've 'been personally discriminated against' because of their race when applying for jobs, while 11% said it occurred when applying to or while at college. Thirteen percent of whites said they experienced discrimination when being considered for equal pay or promotion at work."

    USA Today is lucky I'm not their headline writer, because I'd have likely gone with one of the following alternatives:

    • "POLL: 55% of white Americans can't find their own ass in broad daylight with both hands, a full-length mirror and a map";

    • "POLL: 45% of white Americans are truly embarrassed by these findings, and wish to apologize for what their Uncle Earl said to you at the supermarket yesterday about his Latino neighbors"; or

    • "POLL: Majority of white Americans are simply too stupid to even realize how profoundly ignorant they actually are."


    What is your point? (none / 0) (#124)
    by McBain on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 09:55:42 AM EST
    The discrimination doesn't exist? Or white people just shouldn't complain about it because others have it worse?

    yes (none / 0) (#125)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 10:03:53 AM EST
    Given the gap (none / 0) (#126)
    by CST on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 10:45:27 AM EST
    Between the number of people who say they have personally experienced it, and the number of people who think they're being discriminated against - I'd say there's some serious projection happening at best.

    I doubt you'd find that gap if you were to ask non-white people the same question.

    Also this: "11% said it occurred when applying to or while at college" is 100% projection as I guarantee none of those people actually know that's why they got rejected.  You get rejected, that's it.  If you think it's because you're white that's on you.  I wonder if they feel equally discriminated against for not being a college athlete or not being a legacy kid or not having some other cool thing about them that makes the college arbitrarily decide they'd rather have them as a student.  I worked in admissions as an undergrad, these people have no clue if they lost their seat due to some hypothetical black person getting it, or if they just weren't what the school was looking for.

    You want to use aggregate data about race and SAT scores, fine, but then you have to acknowledge that the 19% who said they've been discriminated against applying for jobs are full of $hit since the data there shows having a stereotypical black name with the same resume makes you much less likely to get hired.  Same thing with the equal pay/promotion folks.


    Yes, lot's of perception, assumptions (none / 0) (#127)
    by McBain on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 11:13:04 AM EST
    without knowing for sure.  

    but then you have to acknowledge that the 19% who said they've been discriminated against applying for jobs are full of $hit since the data there shows having a stereotypical black name with the same resume makes you much less likely to get hired.

    Link?  I don't see how this proves your point.  

    My point was (none / 0) (#128)
    by CST on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 11:20:36 AM EST
    If one is trying to use aggregate data to suggest that they've been personally discriminated against, they should at a minimum be consistent and use aggregate data when it suggests they aren't being personally discriminated against.

    And this is what I'm referring to:





    Thanks for the links (none / 0) (#141)
    by McBain on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 02:02:54 PM EST
    I don't think they prove "the 19% who said they've been discriminated against applying for jobs are full of $hit"  
    but they are very interesting.

    That's not my point at all (none / 0) (#142)
    by CST on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 02:05:24 PM EST
    Unless you remove all the context in which that I made that statement.

    It's the opposite (none / 0) (#144)
    by CST on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 02:08:14 PM EST
    I was saying you shouldn't use aggregate data to prove you were personally discriminated against, but if you do want to take that route, you should at least be consistent and acknowledge when the data goes the other way.

    Exactly. (none / 0) (#143)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 02:07:23 PM EST
    Per that field experiment conducted by the National Bureau of Economic Research, the Emilys and Gregs of the U.S. labor market receive 50% more callbacks for interviews on their job applications than do the Lakishas and Jamals, simply because the formers names sound very white while the latter's names sound very black.

    But per the NPR survey, 55% of these Emilys and Gregs will also report feeling discriminated against because of their white race. Yet of that number, more than four out of five of them will then admit to having never experienced such discrimination personally.

    There is an appropriate and applicable term for this type of false projection. It's call "white entitlement" -- which, of course, leads to a fourth possible USA Today headline:

    "POLL: 55% of white Americans need to pull their heads out of their a$$es and take note of the real world as it actually exists, and not as they fantasize it to be."



    Oh those poor white people. (none / 0) (#133)
    by Chuck0 on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 12:25:38 PM EST
    They are discriminated against just like all those poor christians are being persecuted in the USA. And then there's that war on christmas as well. Cause you know, white christians are no longer allowed to celebrate their pagan holidays.

    Damn right! (none / 0) (#147)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 02:31:31 PM EST
    Every Christmas Eve prior to Midnight Mass, which has now been moved up to 9:00 p.m. for everyone's convenience, I contemplate Filippino Lippi's 1485 Renaissance painting Madonna and Child, which proves once and for all that Holy Mary, Mother of G*d was in fact a young and well-to-do Florentine noblewoman who moonlighted as a professional virgin.

    Good day today (5.00 / 2) (#129)
    by MKS on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 11:38:26 AM EST
    It had been a while but I had an appearance in Federal Court this morning.

    The Federal Courthouses post the photos of the President and Vice President in a prominent place inside the main entrance.  I had dreaded seeing photos of Cheeto and Prune Face.  And, guess what?   There were no photos.  Obama's was gone, but no Cheeto.

    Guess Cheeto forgot to fill the slot for the person responsible for the federal courthouses?   And, this was the Ronald Reagan Federal Courthouse in Orange County.  Quite a marble palace its is.  But it weren't sneaky Dems who caused the lack of Cheeto's photo.  

    Opioid speech (5.00 / 1) (#137)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 01:35:07 PM EST
    where Cheeto explains he cant understand why people want drinks at dinner.

    i feel sick.

    btw (5.00 / 1) (#138)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 01:44:22 PM EST
    one thing i know about Trump voters is, well, lets just say all over amurka Trump voters are blinking and sayng, wait, what?  what did he say?  did he say he was going to make it harder for me to get hydros?!?!?!

    I was going to be a trump voter for Halloween. (none / 0) (#139)
    by Chuck0 on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 01:54:54 PM EST
    But I couldn't get my head to fit up my derriere.

    i got this (5.00 / 2) (#140)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 02:00:29 PM EST
    dark suit, 4 foot tie, white shirt and a mop/swiffer/wig/roadkill on your head.

    I had never heard of the "Umbrella Man" (5.00 / 1) (#159)
    by desertswine on Fri Oct 27, 2017 at 01:36:41 AM EST
    re the Kennedy Assassination before, but here's a little thought provoking video about that from the NYT.  

    wow (none / 0) (#160)
    by linea on Fri Oct 27, 2017 at 01:50:06 AM EST
    i mean really, wow!!

    I'm with you (none / 0) (#1)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Oct 23, 2017 at 02:36:32 PM EST
    on the disgusting part. I'm sick and tired of the chaos.

    Kathy Griffin vs. Lisa Bloom (none / 0) (#3)
    by McBain on Mon Oct 23, 2017 at 04:19:46 PM EST
    This article suggests attorney Lisa Bloom might have broken attorney-client privilege in her feud with Kathy Griffin.
    Bloom's potentially unethical comments are as follows, "Her entire team (entertainment lawyer, criminal lawyer, and several others) approved in advance the statements she and I were going to make. Yet Kathy then during the press conference spontaneously chose to put aside the notes we had worked so hard on together. She said on camera `my notes are by the wayside and it's all off the cuff' and then ad libbed. I was sorry she made that choice..."


    Not so sure (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by Jeralyn on Mon Oct 23, 2017 at 07:47:25 PM EST
    Kathie may have impliedly waived the duty of confidentiality and/or attorney client privilege by attacking Lisa's advice.

    "A client has a privilege to keep his conversations with his attorney confidential, but that privilege is waived when a client attacks his attorney's competence in giving legal advice, puts in issue that advice and ascribes a course of action to his attorney that raises the specter of ineffectiveness or incompetence."

    The Supreme Court has recognized this rule for well over a century.   See Hunt v. Blackburn, 128 U.S. 464, 470-71, 9 S.Ct. 125, 32 L.Ed. 488 (1888) ("When Mrs. Blackburn entered upon a line of defense which involved what transpired between herself and [her lawyer,] she waived her right to object to his giving his own account of the matter.").  


    The buzz in Hawaii all weekend ... (none / 0) (#4)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Oct 23, 2017 at 05:20:03 PM EST
    ... and continuing into today has centered around the long-simmering and now-burgeoning public corruption scandal which has quickly enveloped the upper echelons of the Honolulu Police Dept. and the City Prosecutor's office.

    A 30-month-plus federal investigation culminated last Friday morning in the arrest of former Police Chief Louis Kealoha and his wife Katherine, who's the Deputy City Prosecutor, by FBI agents at their Kahala home. This followed their indictment on 20 felony counts by a federal grand jury the previous afternoon.

    I've written about this story several times here over the last 20 months or so, because as a longtime veteran of public service myself, the issue of public corruption is a real sore point and very big deal with me. The question now looming over the City and County of Honolulu is how far the federal probe will go.

    Acting U.S. Attorney Alana Robinson of San Diego, who's overseeing the investigation, said bluntly at Friday's press conference, "We're not done here." And Paul Delacort, FBI Special Agent-in-Charge in Honolulu, intimated the same:

    "'This is far more than a case about a stolen mailbox,' [Delacourt] said. 'This is an ongoing investigation that began following the mistrial of Gerard Puana and subsequent allegations that Honolulu police officers falsified evidence and testimony in that investigation. The investigation thereafter uncovered much more.'"

    Local criminal defense attorney Victor Bakke speculated that federal investigators are now seriously scrutinizing City Prosecutor Keith Kaneshiro, who went so far out of his way to cover for his No. 2, Katherine Kealoha, that even those of us not hard-wired to the day-to-day machinations of local law enforcement couldn't help but take notice.

    "'The mailbox was just the fuse that lit this,' Bakke said. 'I think Kaneshiro created his own little mess by standing up for Kathy. That turned the spotlight onto him.'"

    Kaneshiro's purported influence over local federal law enforcement officials in this case was apparently such that jurisdiction over the investigation was subsequently transferred from the U.S. Attorney's office in Honolulu to its counterpart in San Diego.

    From my own personal standpoint, I have to say that last week's events couldn't happen to more deserving people than the Kealohas and Prosecutor Kaneshiro. This was a long time coming, and it's about f---ing time it happened.

    It's my considered opinion that the internal issues at HPD are so messed up, entirely new leadership from outside the Hawaiian Islands is likely necessary to clean up the department's rancid old-boy network, and nobody should be promoted to the post of chief who's presently from within HPD itself. That's how bad the present situation is.

    Further, given the events of the last four days, if members of the Honolulu Police Commission have any proper sense of administrative decorum, they'd scrap their now-thoroughly tainted current search for a new police chief altogether and restart the process again from scratch. And HPC Chair Max Sword, who's long been one of the people retarding the scene here, should step down altogether and enjoy his just-announced retirement from Outrigger Hotels & Resorts, Inc.


    Max Sword (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Oct 23, 2017 at 05:45:19 PM EST
    sounds like an Avenger

    You look up the definition for "Willing Tool of the Establishment," and you'll see his picture next to it. As chair of the Honolulu Police Commission, Max Sword did absolutely nothing to learn the facts behind the explosive allegations which have long been at the center of the case against Chief Louis Kealoha and Deputy City Prosecutor Katherine Kealoha for the past two-plus years.

    It's painfully clear that Sword not only didn't want to know about the Kealohas' extracurricular activities, he didn't want to hear about any of it, either. As commission chair, he repeatedly gave Chief Kealoha high marks in periodic performance reviews, which in obvious retrospect was a deeply flawed process that was cursory at best.

    Even after the Kealohas received an official target letter from the U.S. Attorney's office last fall, Sword authorized a retirement package for the now-embattled former chief which contained a $250,000 cash bonus for "meritorious service" -- and then got the Police Commission to rubber-stamp it.

    Then, Sword nominated a well-known reality TV star as a member of the Commission's selection committee for the next police chief, a woman who coincidentally also so happened to have engaged Sword's wife as her media publicist. (I filed an official complaint over that embarrassment with the City and County Ethics Commission and thankfully, we got her nomination rescinded.)

    On top of that, Sword then actively campaigned for the Police Commission to select his wife's first cousin, a retired DEA agent, as Honolulu's next police chief. That prompted yet another official complaint from me to the City and County Ethics Commission, which was co-signed by five other prominent Democrats and was endorsed by Mayor Kirk Caldwell. At that point, Sword reluctantly but finally recused himself from the selection process.

    Now, I'm also on record as calling for Sword's resignation or removal as a member of the Police Commission. And for reasons cited both here and in my earlier comment, I further believe that the Police Commission's pending selection of Honolulu's next police chief should be postponed indefinitely, at least until we learn the full extent of the federal investigation into the City and County's law enforcement community.

    Before we choose the next chief, we must first thoroughly examine how HPD and the City Prosecutor's office have functioned recently and how activities at both agencies have been supervised and overseen. Then, we need to impose the necessary course corrections upon those agencies, based upon what we learn from both our inquiry and the federal investigation. To truly know where we're going, we really have to know where we've been.

    To minimize the sort of eye-popping personal corruption detailed in the federal indictments of seven (so far, anyway) high-ranking City and County officials and HPD employees as "the work of a few bad apples" -- as the head of the police union offered last night, while further suggestig that "it's now time to move forward" -- is pure folly and unadulterated bull$h*t at this point. The last thing that the City and County of Honolulu needs right now is an immediate return to business as usual. Rather, now is the time for some very serious self-examination and self-reflection.

    Sorry about my rants, Cap'n, but as a longtime advocate for public ethics, this is the type of egregious and self-serving personal behavior by public officials which absolutely floors and incenses me. And the sad part about it all is that in comparison with the rest of the country, we're hardly unique in such matters. And frankly, none of us should be tolerating it or have to put up with it.



    I love your rants Donald (none / 0) (#88)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 10:25:20 PM EST
    Well, Honolulu now has a new police chief. (none / 0) (#150)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 03:17:34 PM EST
    And I must say, if the members of the Police Commission had to pick someone from within HPD's ranks, this time they made the right call in choosing Maj. Susan Ballard, a 32-year department veteran who's long been on record as a caustic critic of the two prior police chiefs and their corrupted regimes.

    As the first woman to hold the top job in HPD's history, and the first chief who's actually risen through the department's ranks from her initial assignment as a beat officer in Kalihi (one of Honolulu's tougher neighborhoods), Chief Ballard will likely be overseeing and implementing substantial reforms of one of the largest police agencies in the country. She certainly has her work cut out for her in the wake of "Hurricane Louis."

    That said, unlike the previous two a$$clowns in that post, Ballard is very well-liked and respected by HPD officers who've served under her command over the years, and she enjoys very strong support from both the department's rank-and-file and Oahu's general community. Judging by the near-universal public acclaim, which again is unlike what greeted the announcements of her immediate two predecessors, she appears to be a very popular choice and I wish her well.



    Have to bring the plants in today (none / 0) (#11)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 07:20:30 AM EST
    It's that time of year.  Going to freeze this week.  I realized I have way more plants that I did last fall.  Fortunately I also have lots of Windows.

    saw this today (none / 0) (#12)
    by CST on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 08:47:56 AM EST
    "The `Uber for birth control' expands in conservative states, opening a new front in war over contraception"

    This could be huge, as long as it remains legal.  No more going out and dealing with the pharmacist who won't give you the drugs you need.  Also, lets face it, one less awkward personal encounter.

    I'm sure they'll find some way that it infringes on someone's religious rights to deny other people Plan B...

    "Every sperm is sacred (none / 0) (#21)
    by jondee on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 11:38:53 AM EST
    Every sperm is great. If any sperm gets wasted, God get's quite irate."

    This is wonderful (none / 0) (#25)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 12:30:51 PM EST
    What a great cable news day (none / 0) (#66)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 06:18:06 PM EST
    I've been jumping back and forth between CNN and MSNBC.

    republicans are in full pretzel

    Jack Kingston (r) just said, explaining something,  just said "it's like that old saying, if you want to make an omelette you have to break some legs"

    I rewound three times.  The third was just to laugh.



    WaPo (none / 0) (#67)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 06:21:44 PM EST
    "Elias and his law firm, Perkins Coie, retained the firm [Fusion GPS] in April 2016 on behalf of the Clinton campaign and the DNC. Prior to that agreement, Fusion GPS's research into Trump was funded by a still unknown Republican client during the GOP primary." (Emphasis is mine.)

    Per earlier reports this year, former MI6 operative and widely respected intelligence analyst Christopher Steele was apparently so alarmed by what he was seeing and learning about the Trump campaign's activities that he felt compelled to disclose his findings to his former bosses at British intelligence, without first informing his current employer Fusion GPS. Equally concerned, MI6 then notified the CIA and FBI.

    And thus, here we are.


    They are not missing it (5.00 / 1) (#72)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 07:28:21 PM EST
    It's been in the first paragraph of every report I've seen.  Which would only be the fake news of CNN and MSNBC

    The interesting speculation (none / 0) (#74)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 07:30:16 PM EST
    Is WHO the mystery republican was.  The top contender seems to be Ted Cruz.

    Which will meld nicely with Bannons plan to primary every republican but Ted.


    Well, (none / 0) (#77)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 07:47:12 PM EST
    that's the mystery that has held through all this. We already knew Hillary was probably funding it though we didn't know that she was directly funding it. At least they are trying to figure out who the republican is because that's the only real mystery here.

    Cruz funding it would blow up Bannon's plans for sure.


    blow up which plans? (none / 0) (#79)
    by linea on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 08:47:28 PM EST
    Cruz funding it would blow up Bannon's plans for sure.

    cruz is considered republican-party establishment. how would cruz (allegedly) funding this impact bannon's plans?

    i don't believe right-populism can take over the republican-party.

    • several right-populist positions run counter to corporate interests
    • big corporate money is needed to win all these races
    • the populist platform isn't clearly defined for the public
    • there is no defined or organized populist sub-group (e.g. tea party)
    • president trump is disengenious about many of his claimed populist positions

    Why does it have to be an adversary? (none / 0) (#86)
    by NYShooter on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 10:07:40 PM EST
    What about a guy like Robert Mercer, the billionaire backer credited with designing the algos that pinpointed where to concentrate their campaign efforts. Maybe, before going "all in" supporting Trump he just wanted to know if there were any real disqualifying things that might make him unelectable (even to the deplorables?)

    Hey, we're just guessing, no?


    Unlikely IMO (none / 0) (#87)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 10:24:03 PM EST
    I think it's very likely it was a primary candidate.  

    Because of the timing (none / 0) (#89)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 10:28:19 PM EST
    It's said they were in the process and Trump got the nomination at which point they approached the democrats.  Then it was completed.

    If it was as you say Mercers curiosity would not have been limited to the primary it seems to me.


    Btw (none / 0) (#90)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 10:30:27 PM EST
    About that other comment.  It would be awkward if it was Cruz because Cruz is the other wholly owned property of the Mercers.  Which is why Bannon was told he can't primary him.

    Which i suppose (none / 0) (#91)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 10:41:50 PM EST
    Means Mercer could have been paying for it FOR Cruz.

    What a tangled web.


    I think it was Jeb! (5.00 / 2) (#92)
    by caseyOR on Tue Oct 24, 2017 at 10:54:40 PM EST
    This story is so old (5.00 / 1) (#94)
    by Towanda on Wed Oct 25, 2017 at 12:08:03 AM EST
    that Mother Jones published it even before the election,

    I don't get why the GOP is ginning it up again now, other than to deal with its wreck of a day by waving the usual red flag -- Clinton! -- with another distraction, as if Nunes reopening emails and Benghazi isn't enough red meat for the mob,

    It was oppo.  All candidates do oppo.  If Clinton's camp -- and before them, in the primaries, Republicans -- had not fone oppo, that would be news.


    It's true (none / 0) (#99)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Oct 25, 2017 at 09:34:35 AM EST
    This has been more or less known for months.  One thing I hear on cable news is 'why wouldn't they just admit it?'
    Don't know why but I think it's good they did not for this reason.  
    I think it's possible that if it had been "known" very early in the Mueller investigation, at the very beginning when Trump was being aided by the likes of Grassley and others in efforts to discredit not only the investigation but the FBI,  if they had that information back before all the damming stories came out, they really might have been able to seriously discredit or even stop the investigation.
    We all know how good they are at what they do.  This would have been a really big stick to beat Mueller and the FBI with.
    Those days are long gone.  We are well past who paid for it and well into how much of it is true.

    So, they may have denied it for their own reasons but I'm glad they did.


    Josh Marshall had this to say: (5.00 / 2) (#100)
    by Anne on Wed Oct 25, 2017 at 10:15:53 AM EST
    Now, this doesn't mean there's anything bad about this new reporting. I've heard some people say the Post is trying to pass off old news. That's not fair or true. This is significant new detail. The key point being that Marc Elias, perhaps the top campaign lawyer for the Democrats in recent years, was the one who contracted with Fusion GPS to continue the Trump research which later involved hiring Steele.

    Elias used money from the Clinton campaign and the DNC. That's new. Does it change the story? Not really. That's who the Democrats are. The DNC and the party's presidential campaign. This is opposition research. It's what parties and campaigns do.

    Now, one key part of this is that someone working in Elias' position is basically representing the entirety of the Democratic party, often doing work for various committees and institutions that make up the party apparatus. That's what seems to have been the case here. Elias's firm Perkins Coie was working on behalf of both the DNC and the Clinton campaign going back far into 2015.

    What isn't clear is how much of the Steele material Elias shared with the campaign or the DNC. Given how things turned out I get he sense he maybe didn't share nearly as much as he should have. Numerous critical parts of the Steele Dossier have been confirmed. The FBI thought enough of Steele's work (and Steele himself, long before he started looking into Trump) to continue funding his research after the Democrats stopped, once the election was over. Lots of information contained in Steele's research was (or would have been) critically important to allowing voters to make an informed decision about Donald Trump. Voters didn't get any of it. So I get the sense it wasn't widely shared or shared enough even though it really should have been.


    My emphasis.

    Our good friend Sarah Huckabee Sanders is making a huge deal about this, of course: CLINTON LIED!!!  Honestly, it's like they go to bed at night praying for something, anything they can attach that accusation to...

    If it hasn't already been made, I'm expecting the WH to claim that Clinton colluded with the FBI on Trump as the quid pro quo for Comey letting her off the hook.

    Lordy, I just want to stick needles in my eyes...


    Yes, Clinton (5.00 / 2) (#103)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Oct 25, 2017 at 10:28:45 AM EST
    colluded with Putin to not be president. It all makes perfect sense.

    Maybe Dems can "investigate" this: (none / 0) (#105)
    by Anne on Wed Oct 25, 2017 at 10:45:02 AM EST
    The head of a data analytics firm that worked for President Trump's campaign reached out to WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange about locating Hillary Clinton's missing emails, The Daily Beast reported Wednesday.

    Alexander Nix, who leads Cambridge Analytica, reportedly told a third party that he reached out to Assange to see if Nix's firm could help Assange release Clinton's 33,000 missing emails. Assange reportedly told Nix he preferred to do the work on his own.

    After the report was published, Assange confirmed to The Daily Beast that Cambridge Analytica approached WikiLeaks, but said the site rejected the firm.


    So, while this all devolves into dueling investigations, Trump can keep negating anything Obama did, and Republicans can keep going about their mission to decimate the institutions of government and send America back to the Dark Ages.

    What is it Charlie Pierce always says?  "This is your democracy, America: cherish it."


    How (none / 0) (#117)
    by FlJoe on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 05:53:49 AM EST
    is this not a crime? Seems to be a cut and dried case of conspiracy to obtain stolen documents, Am I missing something?

    I think (none / 0) (#118)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 07:26:41 AM EST
    it is a crime. Whether there's enough to prosecute someone is another question. Assange says he said no but he's not known to be the most honest person in the world and I would not be surprised to find out that he actually did say yes to Cambridge.

    The (5.00 / 1) (#116)
    by FlJoe on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 05:44:36 AM EST
    is behaving abysmally, turning this relatively minor detail in the long established provenance  of the dossier into some kind of bombshell, blatantly using it to attack Clinton for no apparent reason. Using it it to counter the real bombshell on Cambridge Analytica, with their ridiculous bothsiderism.



    it really is crazy town (none / 0) (#102)
    by CST on Wed Oct 25, 2017 at 10:28:13 AM EST
    If you had just come out of a coma and went to the Foxnews website, you would think Hillary was the president.

    A helpful timeline (none / 0) (#111)
    by KeysDan on Wed Oct 25, 2017 at 05:06:52 PM EST
    on the Steele dossier....who was the initial client, and what role, if any, did the initial client have in turning over the reporting, up to that time?  The initial client was, apparently, a Republican primary opponent of Trump, such as Jeb!  But, it would be interesting if it were Ted Cruz and the Mercer funds.

    I wish it was Jeb! It sounds so Bush-like. (none / 0) (#157)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 10:09:22 PM EST
    But unfortunately, Jeb! was already knocked out of the race by the time Fusion GPS was first retained for the oppo research. I think it was either John Kasich or Ted Cruz.

    Put this all together (5.00 / 1) (#101)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Oct 25, 2017 at 10:26:20 AM EST
    with the "investigations" cranking up it is telling me that the GOP is in very serious trouble and they know it. The dossier must be about to be proven true for this to be coming out now. They need something to distract their voting base from the lack of accomplishments hence more stupid "investigations".

    As far as it coming out now (none / 0) (#104)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Oct 25, 2017 at 10:45:01 AM EST
    I think that was just (if it ever is) good reporting.  Ok, I know they could have told the reporter anytime but praising the press is not a bad thing these days

    The rest I am in complete agreement with.  They are f@cked and they are beginning to resize it.


    It seems impossible to fathom (none / 0) (#107)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Oct 25, 2017 at 12:34:43 PM EST
    How crazy things are going to get.

    It seems impossible to fathom how disgraced anyone in the White House at this point will become in history.

    How is it they seem unable to grasp where the Trump train ultimately ends its travels? The Bush administration was only half as corrupt and Donald Rumsfeld is still called a blood gargling psychopath in his twitter mentions whenever he opens his mouth.


    the look (none / 0) (#110)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Oct 25, 2017 at 04:30:30 PM EST
    Making America GAG again... (none / 0) (#112)
    by Anne on Wed Oct 25, 2017 at 05:50:21 PM EST
    and again, and again.

    "I went to an Ivy League college," "I was a nice student. I did very well. I'm a very intelligent person."

    Just remember: it isn't Trump's juvenile tweets that make him look uncivil - the media does that.

    my army (none / 0) (#113)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Oct 25, 2017 at 06:02:12 PM EST
    MY generals.



    Court won't stay end of Obamcare subsidy (none / 0) (#114)
    by ragebot on Wed Oct 25, 2017 at 07:35:48 PM EST
    Any idea what will happen to the tax credits? (none / 0) (#155)
    by McBain on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 09:08:02 PM EST
    As far as I know they are supposed to be there for 2018

    Mark Halperin (none / 0) (#119)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 08:17:39 AM EST
    goes down today. Good riddance are my thoughts.

    I found his comment to be (5.00 / 3) (#120)
    by Anne on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 09:09:00 AM EST
    remarkably tone deaf:

    "I now understand from these accounts that my behavior was inappropriate and caused others pain."

    Wait, what?  He didn't know the behavior was inappropriate at the time?

    I guess none of these Neanderthals ever wonders how they would feel if some man was making these kinds of moves on their wives, sisters, daughters.  What are the chances that someone like this would assume the victim was at fault?  Pretty good, I think.

    The only thing that gives me some kind of pleasure is knowing that the frequency with which these revelations and accusations are being made probably has a lot of men shaking in their boots.

    With more repercussions yet to come.  


    These people (none / 0) (#122)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 09:21:08 AM EST
    adhere to the Phyllis Schafly school of thought that "good" women don't suffer harassment, only bad ones do and since their wives, daughters etc. are "good" they simply cannot relate that kind of thing happening to them.

    "....my behavior was (none / 0) (#130)
    by KeysDan on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 11:50:52 AM EST
    inappropriate..."  Inappropriate is wearing white after Labor Day.  Halperin's acts such as rubbing his johnson on a woman's neck is wrong and assault.



    No one's going to confess to assault, (none / 0) (#134)
    by Anne on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 12:29:04 PM EST
    so "inappropriate" is about as much of an admission as his lawyers probably advised him to make.  

    And even then, the lawyers would probably have preferred the non-apology apology of "if my behavior offended anyone, I apologize."


    couldnt happen to a nicer guy (5.00 / 5) (#121)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 09:11:58 AM EST
    morning joe will need a new Trump fluffer

    Ouh, good scoop (none / 0) (#131)
    by MKS on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 11:54:08 AM EST
    Cheeto was Halperin's idol (5.00 / 1) (#132)
    by MKS on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 11:58:55 AM EST
    Halperin always loved Trump.   The Access Hollywoood tape probably sealed the deal.

    More from the "pro-life" party (none / 0) (#123)
    by CST on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 09:42:32 AM EST
    "Rosamaria Hernandez, the girl with cerebral palsy, was brought to the United States illegally from Mexico when she was 3 months old, according to her family and immigrant advocates involved in her case. She was travelling in an ambulance to Driscoll Children's Hospital in Corpus Christi when federal immigration officers stopped the vehicle at a checkpoint."

    "The Border Patrol agents followed the ambulance on to the hospital. When the hospital discharged the child, Border Patrol agents took the 10-year-old into custody instead of allowing her cousin to take her back to her parents, who are also undocumented, in Laredo."

    "Elaine Duke, the advocacy group DreamActivist says Hernandez was told "she has two options; sign voluntary departure or spend up to 3 weeks in detention."

    ""This current administration wants to send a clear message to all undocumented immigrants -- that if you want to go to [a] hospital, you better think twice about it because you might be deported," he told the magazine."


    I'm sure this new policy will put no lives at risk...

    The Republican's Donor (none / 0) (#135)
    by KeysDan on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 12:46:00 PM EST
    Maintenance Program.  Also known as tax cuts for corporations and the super rich...is moving along. The Senate (51 to 49) passed a budget resolution that paves the way for the massive tax cut by paying for them by cutting social programs, including Medicare and Medicaid.  $l.5 trillion is cut from Medicaid and $473 billion from Medicare over ten years.  A reduction in growth rate at a time of a rapidly aging population.

    Plans to disallow state and local taxes, including real estate taxes is still in the works as is the dramatic reduction in maximum contribution to a tax deferred 401k plan.  The current maximum is $18,500 for those under age 50 and $24,000 for those over 50l the proposed for all ages is $2,400.  By getting the taxes up front rather than later, the budget will look better.

    Both the 40lk change and the state and local tax deductions have been taken off the table by Trump Tweets, but the Republicans, so far, are keeping them in.  Looks like the estate tax is on the Republican table, big time because family farms. Don't cha know?   In 2017 the estate tax threshold is $5.49 million/individual and $10.98 million for married couples...these amounts need to be exceeded before federal taxes kick in.  

    Cutting Medicare and Medicaid to pay for these cuts in unconscionable.  And, CHIP has not yet been continued.

    yes (none / 0) (#145)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 02:18:17 PM EST
    sex and horseshoes.

    it could happen, i still dont think so.

    Corker was on MJ talking about this.

    the budget they passed covers 1 trillion in deficit spending.  the problem, he explains, is ther is 5 trillion they have to deal with.  and the other 4 trillion means cuts in 401ks state and local deductions and god only knows what else.

    close.  no cigar yet.


    PS (none / 0) (#146)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 02:26:54 PM EST
    VOTERS will be giving these cherished deductions to give a massive tax cut to, what.....oh yeah, corporations.

    you know what, for us at this point, its a win win.


    Democrats need to (none / 0) (#153)
    by KeysDan on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 03:56:05 PM EST
    put into neon lights: Medicare to be cut so as to give massive tax cuts to the richest and big corporations.  Top it off with a flashing no deductions for real estate taxes.  Democrats would never do what Republicans would so easily do: make stuff up, although this is probably close to the truth:  tax plan reduces benefits for Medicare and increases Medicare premiums. No legislation has been mentioned yet as to how that big funding cut will be effected on Medicare, but these are likely cuts.

    The Medicare issue affects many of those economic anxious Trumpkins and the real estate taxes puts pressure on Republican law makers in higher tax states, such as NY, CA, Il.  

    The summation of the budget deficit/federal debt freedomers and the above will make it very difficult to get out of the House.  Pretty close (four votes) on the House resolution.


    It's a budget resolution, so just a (none / 0) (#148)
    by Anne on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 02:41:44 PM EST
    blueprint, really.  I expect it will get the same kind of reception the Repeal and Replace bills got: screaming rejection by everyone and their Aunt Fanny.

    I have to say, it kills me when Chris Hayes has on some truly dumb-as-a-post GOP-er on who happily recites all the talking points without batting an eye at how ridiculously false they are - while Chris tries his best not to bark with laughter.

    Not that there's anything funny about what these heartless bastards want to do, or the underlying reality that enough people actually voted to send them to DC.  


    The (5.00 / 1) (#152)
    by FlJoe on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 03:48:59 PM EST
    apologists are way beyond lying at this point, it's pure fabulism now. Up is down, lies are truth, chaos is order, no amount of empirical fact or logical truism that can't be brushed aside with  incantations of fake news or other such sophistry.

    When all else fails they bring up the devil herself, Uranium-gate, Fusion-gate, it never ends, and the media laps it up (while gazing at it's navel and wonders how tRump happened).

    As a country we have truly passed through the looking glass, and it is terrifying.


    other reasons (none / 0) (#154)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 09:04:11 PM EST
    remember, ive been saying "before winter"

    I don't know what relationships Juliette Kayyem retains in the intelligence community, but I imagine she still has some extensive connections.

    Or, maybe, she's just guessing like the rest of us. But it's her opinion that the reason we're seeing the Republicans ramp up their attacks on the FBI and the Steele Dossier is because they know something is going down soon and it's not going to be good.

    National security expert Juliette Kayyem is predicting news from Robert Mueller's Russia investigation will be announced within the next month.

    "I think it is safe to say that before Thanksgiving ... something's going to drop with Mueller," she said on Boston Public Radio today. "The pace is too much right now. Every 12 hours we're now dealing with a piece of this story at a pace we haven't seen."

    Kayyem was prompted to make her prediction by the buzz surrounding a story about how Hillary Clinton's campaign funded what would eventually become the famous "Trump-Russia Dossier" that surfaced in January...

    ...Kayyem speculated that the pace of stories critical of Hillary Clinton represents "a recognition by the White House team" that Mueller is getting close to something substantive as a result of his investigation.

    Kayyem pointed out that Mueller has interviewed former Press Secretary Sean Spicer and former Chief of Staff Reince Priebus.

    "This is so close to the Oval Office now, if not in the Oval Office, that all of this [dossier news] to me is just background noise to what Mueller is going to deliver," she said. "This is more than an obstruction charge. There is something big underlying the obstruction."



    Yep. These guys are desperate. (none / 0) (#156)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 10:00:17 PM EST
    This evening, Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Bozo's Big Top) was on Fox News, insisting that this revelation about Marc Elias funding the Steele dossier proves that Democrats helped Russia subvert the 2016 election by allowing Russian intelligence to hack the email accounts of the DNC and John Podesta and release them in increments, and then holding onto the information until after the election so that Trump would be falsely accused of collusion.

    (Sigh!) But there's booze in the blender, and soon it will render that frozen concoction that helps me hang on.



    The way the GOP (none / 0) (#161)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Oct 27, 2017 at 05:11:53 AM EST
    is acting something big is getting ready to happen. Maybe that security analyst is right and indictments are going to be coming from Mueller before Thanksgiving.

    There's been an uptick in efforts (none / 0) (#162)
    by Anne on Fri Oct 27, 2017 at 07:04:05 AM EST
    to undermine Mueller's credibility of late, which may mean they know something bad is coming and they're looking to take the focus off the message and go after the messenger.

    Yes, (none / 0) (#164)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Oct 27, 2017 at 08:34:13 AM EST
    didn't you know Mueller delivered the uranium to Russia for Hillary and Obama/snark?

    Also (none / 0) (#165)
    by FlJoe on Fri Oct 27, 2017 at 09:38:31 AM EST
    he and Christopher Steele are secret lovers and the withheld JFK documents prove that he was the second gunman.

    Scott Brown... (none / 0) (#136)
    by desertswine on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 01:29:38 PM EST
    The US ambassador to New Zealand has been �counselled on standards of conduct for government employees� because he's an idiot.

    Brown was once a contributor at Fox News, where he faced allegations of sexual harassment from a former Fox employee in a lawsuit against the company.

    Both sides equally bad, and yet..... (none / 0) (#149)
    by vicndabx on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 02:49:06 PM EST

    House Republicans are scheduled to hold a hearing next week on legislation that would ban abortion at the first detection of a fetal heartbeat--often something that happens about six weeks into pregnancy, before many women even know they're pregnant.

    I believe that "Both Sides Now" is ... (none / 0) (#151)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 03:26:43 PM EST
    ... the processional hymn for the daily 9:00 a.m. mass at Our Lady of False Equivalence.

    Baltimore Ravens shutout (none / 0) (#158)
    by Chuck0 on Thu Oct 26, 2017 at 10:36:04 PM EST
    the Dolphins. 40 to 0. Never seem to know which Ravens team is going to show. They were sharp tonight, sloppy last Sunday.

    I sure didn't expect that kind of game... (none / 0) (#163)
    by Anne on Fri Oct 27, 2017 at 07:11:26 AM EST
    I hadn't even planned to watch, but saw that Ravens were up 7 - 0 early, so tuned in to see what was going on.

    Miami looked terrible, and never seemed to be able to make adjustments to the Ravens on either side of the ball.  

    Now we just have to wait and see how much the concussion will end up affecting Flacco (and after watching Mallett "skip" the ball like it was a stone and the field was a lake, I wondered if Colin Kaepernick's agent might be getting a phone call).