Monday Open Thread: This and That

I was just reading about the really high prices of Manhattan luxury condos, when I came upon this article in Curbed saying that a 90 story skyscraper is coming to Denver that will change the skyline forever. Then I saw the address: the building is going to replace the parking lot right next door to my office building. I think Denver needs a 90 story building like it needs a hole in the head. Aside from being an eyesore, it will stick out like a sore thumb.

The building will contain a "boutique hotel", 250 condos, parking for 500 vehicles, retail space, a spa and a pool -- 1 million square feet -- all in one half of a city block. Who's behind this? A New York company called Greenwich Realty Capital. [More...]

One of the owners of the capital firm, Michael Ursini, says:

“We’re talking about a huge, gigantic, monster building,” Ursini says. “It will be unlike anything ever built in Colorado....“I’ve never built a building of this magnitude.”

A monster or a monstrosity? I'd say the latter. It still has to get approval from the Denver Community Planning and Development Department, but since Denver has no height restrictions, it will probably be approved.

As for TV, I'm looking forward to Kate del Castillo's documentary series of her communications and meeting with El Chapo (on Netflix Friday -- all episodes will be available for streaming) and I'm glad Senor de los Cielos has another week, although I'm still upset by reports that Monica Robles will die. How can there be a Season 6 without her?

Peloton just keeps getting better and better. They now show the playlist for each class so you can decide in advance if you like the music and want to take it. The "Rhythm" classes are great, you just ride to the beat of the music.

This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    Sounds like the downside... (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by kdog on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 08:57:39 AM EST
    of the green gold rush is moving in next door J...the investor vultures are circling over your fair city.

    HIGH rise! (none / 0) (#2)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 09:03:16 AM EST
    my state passed (5.00 / 1) (#48)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 09:42:29 AM EST
    medical pot last year.  stores will be coming on line soon.

    im trying to decide if i would rather have glacuoma or crohn's disease.


    Whatever works! (none / 0) (#53)
    by kdog on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 01:05:50 PM EST
    Doctor said Captain Howdy needs a backiatomy! lol

    Just hope your price don't go up too much...but it's still worth it.  


    The best would be (none / 0) (#76)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 05:17:01 PM EST
    If my insurance paid for it.  Not a perk I necessarily expect but it would be awsum.

    Sorry, Howdy. I just went through (none / 0) (#79)
    by caseyOR on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 05:32:07 PM EST
    the med marijuana process here with a relative. I learned that currently no  insurance pays for MM because the feds still consider it to be illegal.

    I also learned that if you or a loved one is living in a nursing home or assisted living facility that accepts payment from Medicare or Medicaid possession of weed,even MM in a state where it is legal, will get you evicted.


    yeah (none / 0) (#81)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 05:40:12 PM EST
    i didnt really expect it.  no assisted living involved.

    that said (none / 0) (#82)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 05:42:28 PM EST
    i have an excellent medicare supplemental.  i pay zero out of pocket and no copays for anything but perscritions and tey are usually about 2 or three bucks.

    so we will see.


    wa state (none / 0) (#166)
    by linea on Fri Oct 20, 2017 at 07:34:39 PM EST
    Dear Nursing Facility/Home Administrator:

    Anyway on price (none / 0) (#77)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 05:25:27 PM EST
    As far as I can tell I pay close to what it goes for in CO.  I would rather spend less but that's all there is.  And I suspect this fairly recent quality development is related to the fact official growing is fully underway.

    Capt. Just go with (none / 0) (#73)
    by fishcamp on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 05:03:26 PM EST
    Arthritis, everybody's got it and they can't get confused.  It definitely works for arthritis.

    The guidelines say (none / 0) (#75)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 05:15:43 PM EST
    "Severe arthritis"

    Seeing my doc, who is pretty cool, I plan to ask his advise about what I "have".

    The thing is I'm not sure if a doctor from another state can prescribe it.  Which my doctor happens to be.  I used to live on the state line.  Another question for him.

    We might just formulate a plan for when i see one of the doctors who will.  There are some already known.


    In the northeast (none / 0) (#157)
    by CST on Thu Oct 19, 2017 at 01:23:21 PM EST
    There's an entire organization whose sole purpose is to provide "medical cannabis evaluations" aka doctors who will prescribe pot.  They don't even sugarcoat it, the name is Canna Care Docs. They operate all over New England and in a couple of other states.

    I do wonder what will happen next year when they finally allow recreational stores.  I think Colorado got the bulk of the "movers", but being the first state on the east coast will certainly have an impact (If Maine doesn't get there first - which it looks like it won't - also, it's Maine, which is hard to get to from anywhere that's not New England or south-east Canada).

    I know legalizing gay marriage first was a pretty big boon for the local wedding industry.


    "Princess Ivanka" (5.00 / 2) (#20)
    by Yman on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 03:05:05 PM EST
    Turns out Ivanka was the one who told Michael Flynn to pick his job:

    Ivanka Trump once "took over" one of Chris Christie's transition team meetings last fall and essentially told Michael Flynn that he could have whatever job he wanted because of his "amazing loyalty" to her father, President Donald Trump, The New Yorker reported Monday in an extensive profile of Vice President Mike Pence.

    Heck'uva job, Ivanka.

    Ivanka did not (5.00 / 1) (#78)
    by KeysDan on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 05:29:43 PM EST
    deny saying "General, what job do you want?"  But that her role was exaggerated.  Yes, her role is certainly exaggerated.   The entire New Yorker article by Jane Mayer is pretty frightening. Pence is a fanatic and dullard.  If Trump goes, we get Pence.  chose your poison; heart attack or cancer.

    And on a completely different topic, (5.00 / 2) (#28)
    by Zorba on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 07:23:01 PM EST
    Apples!  We've got lots of apples!
    And if I do say so myself, I made a very tasty apple crisp yesterday.
    The usual spices, flour, brown sugar, oatmeal (I also add chopped pecans to the topping).  But I put in a slug of Gosling's Black Seal rum in with the apples.
    Oh, my, I'm doing that again, definitely.
    Served it still warm, with vanilla ice cream.

    Great minds think alike, Zorba... (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by Anne on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 08:14:03 PM EST
    I had the family over for dinner last night, to celebrate my husband's birthday, and decided to do an apple dessert.

    Found a recipe for an Apple Pie bar: shortbread crust, apples tossed with sugar, cinnamon, flour piled on the crust, then a streusel topping (brown sugar, butter, oatmeal, cinnamon), baked for about 50 minutes.  Served slightly warm with good vanilla ice cream and a luscious salted caramel sauce drizzled over.

    It was delicious - buttery crust, tender apples, crunchy topping - the ice cream and caramel were perfect on top - the whole thing tasted like fall...

    Will definitely make again!


    Both your and Anne's recipes sound (5.00 / 2) (#32)
    by Jeralyn on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 08:29:39 PM EST
    terrific. I've been learning to use my Instant Pot -- Chili Mac, beef stew, matzoh ball soup, chicken tortilla soup, black bean soup -- I put them all in containers for the TL kids so they won't have to cook as much after the baby arrives (about 2 weeks to go).

    I love apples too, and eat one or two plain a day, but your stuff sounds amazing.


    I meant to type (5.00 / 1) (#33)
    by Jeralyn on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 08:30:18 PM EST
    3 weeks to go, must be wishful thinking!

    Jeralyn - posted but you may have missed (5.00 / 1) (#36)
    by Anne on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 08:46:51 PM EST
    that my newest grandbaby arrived the afternoon of October 7th: a beautiful, 7 lb 8 oz baby boy!

    Everyone's doing great, big brother is being very helpful and couldn't wait to take a picture of the baby to pre-school.

    Labor was relatively easy - she pushed for a grand total of 9 minutes, and he was out!  But I guess that's the advantage of the 2nd baby.

    Looking forward to hearing about the arrival of the TL grandbaby - you must be getting pretty excited!


    I love (5.00 / 2) (#39)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 09:14:56 PM EST
    my Insta Pot. To me it's one of the best appliances ever made. The only thing my family did not care so much for is pressure cooked pot roast but everything else has been wonderful.

    Was thinking about getting one for my daughter (none / 0) (#40)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 09:32:29 PM EST
    She has surpassed my cooking skills X 2...nah X 3. She has been doing crockpot meals every night. 2 girls in cheer and 1 boy in flag football, and a baby.

    She long surpassed me in creating tasty nutritious on the fly. She tells me her recipes but thing is, Josh and spouse eat main meal at lunch here. Evening meal is smaller and quality, not quantity. But I am about to order 2, 1 for her and 1 for me when we have vistors and holidays.


    My niece really likes hers. (none / 0) (#43)
    by oculus on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 09:39:47 PM EST
    She will probably (none / 0) (#66)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 02:34:56 PM EST
    get a lot of use out of it. You might get a lot more use out of it if you like making soups and stews and then you can freeze whatever you make. The most amazing thing to me is dried beans take like one hour and you don't have to pre soak them.

    They have Peruvian style chicken restaurants (none / 0) (#83)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 05:43:17 PM EST
    All around here. Each place seems to have its own bean recipe. Two we have tried are delicious, unlike anything I've had before, they aren't Charo beans. Wish I had either recipe.

    Maybe you can (none / 0) (#86)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 06:32:38 PM EST
    find some recipes online. I don't believe I have ever eaten Peruvian food though it sounds wonderful.

    There are some decent Peruvian restaurants (none / 0) (#88)
    by vml68 on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 06:49:54 PM EST
    in Decatur. Don't know how far you live from there, might be worth a try.

    I am probably (none / 0) (#98)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 05:00:56 AM EST
    an hour from Decatur but googling around on the internet there is one in Roswell which is closer.

    Miss those (none / 0) (#92)
    by Yman on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 08:45:51 PM EST
    I used to live in Silver Spring/Wheaton area and they had a couple of great Peruvian chicken places.  Not so much in New Jersey.  We have great bagels, pizza and Italian food everywhere, but gave up a lot of variety.

    It has become my comfort food (none / 0) (#96)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 02:55:08 AM EST
    It's so good

    We are at Glenmont (none / 0) (#112)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 11:58:10 AM EST
    I'm probably hanging at your old hangouts.

    Absolutely (5.00 / 1) (#164)
    by Yman on Thu Oct 19, 2017 at 09:34:52 PM EST
    We lived right next to Sligo Park - our metro was Forest Glen.  Used to take my older ones to Wheaton Regional Park all the time.

    I love the park. We live off Randolph on the (5.00 / 2) (#165)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Oct 20, 2017 at 03:42:48 PM EST
    Wheaton side, so there are trails behind the house that will get you to the Wheaton park. And several miles of hiking to beer. That's my workout, hike to beer :)

    Beautiful botanical garden just a mile on the trail. Can't wait for our grandkids to visit, it is a kids paradise.


    Had to look it up (none / 0) (#56)
    by Yman on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 01:39:39 PM EST
    Sounded like something Kdog would like -
    - they look pretty interesting.  Do they do anything that a regular pressure cooker doesn't do, or are they just easier to use?  I have a bit of an addiction problem when it comes to kitchen gadgets.

    It is (5.00 / 2) (#65)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 02:32:49 PM EST
    a three in one where you have a rice cooker, slow cooker and pressure cooker all in one. I have never used it for slow cooking but I use it all the time for pressure cooking. I am too afraid of the on the stove pressure cookers to use one of those. This looks easier than using one of those. As far as another counter top pressure cooker I'm not sure the insta pot would have much advantage over that.

    You and me both. (5.00 / 2) (#69)
    by vml68 on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 03:44:39 PM EST
    I have a bit of an addiction problem when it comes to kitchen gadgets.

    When the packers came to pack our things for our move, I got a serious eyeroll from the women packing my kitchen stuff and I was asked, if I really use all of it. No comment!

    I was hesitant to look up the Instant Pot because I really didn't want to find something else I really "have to have"! I already own multiple pressure cookers in different sizes. I have a rice cooker gifted to me years ago that is sitting in the garage unused in it's original box. So, I have come to the conclusion, I will survive without the Instant Pot. Though, if I did not already own pressure cookers, I would be tempted to buy one.


    I have 2 crock pots ... (5.00 / 4) (#70)
    by Yman on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 04:53:35 PM EST
    ... and a rice cooker I use all the time, but the one thing I don't have is a pressure cooker.  The idea of dried beans in an hour is tempting, as is the idea of quick beef stew, chili verde, etc.  The Insta Pot is highly rated at Serious Eats, too ...

    Must ...

    ... resist ...  


    i dont have a slow cooker (none / 0) (#84)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 05:46:30 PM EST
    i have been thinking about getting one.  never heard of Insta Pot.

    sounds lik i might be getting one.


    When I was in Ohio (none / 0) (#85)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 06:31:38 PM EST
    this past summer we went to Amish country and ate at one of their restaurants. They had this thing called "broasted" chicken. So me being curious as to what broasted chicken is I went online to find out. It actually looked like fried chicken in the restaurant. Well, in all my searches I found that it is basically air fried chicken and now I am thinking about getting an air fryer. My college roommate that does not even cook got one and said she did a cake in it. I am wondering how much I would actually use it but I know it could probably replace my electric frying pan.

    I have an air fryer (5.00 / 1) (#99)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 05:30:20 AM EST
    It makes good fries. They look a little wrinkled but they taste great and a vat of grease wasn't involved.

    You cannot beat it for wings. And it's so easy. Just have your sauces ready. We plan a whole day during Christmas of just wings because some of our family love them so much.


    I hadn't (none / 0) (#100)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 06:55:39 AM EST
    thought of wings. but I usually just bake the wings and skip the frying part.

    Co-worker has one (none / 0) (#93)
    by Yman on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 08:47:01 PM EST
    She LOVES it.

    Again ... must ... resist.


    you (5.00 / 1) (#97)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 04:54:36 AM EST
    and I must never meet at Bed Bath and Beyond. There would be not a whole lot left in the store after we got done :)

    That's so great that you're making them (none / 0) (#37)
    by Zorba on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 08:57:29 PM EST
    meals for after the baby arrives!
    I just got an Instant Pot, myself, and can't wait to try it out.

    McCain and Biden (5.00 / 1) (#49)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 11:51:55 AM EST
    If you have not seen this speech by McCain you should see it.

    But it will mostly just make you sad for what we, yes WE - we are past blaming deplorable, it's now about US, face it, have become.

    For the record (none / 0) (#50)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 12:03:10 PM EST
    Our vile Dear Leader has warned McCain to "be careful"

    Which is so sick and frightening on so many levels it literally makes me ill.


    I have run out of adjectives that (5.00 / 2) (#52)
    by Anne on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 12:49:32 PM EST
    adequately describe the depth of Trump's utter lack of recognizable and worthwhile human traits.

    More disturbing to me is the realization that there is some segment of our population that reveres, admires and aspires to perpetuate his inhumanity.

    When does the GOP abandon this ship?  Will failure to pass a tax bill do it?


    No (5.00 / 2) (#54)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 01:15:24 PM EST
    I don't think it will.

    But I totally agree.  Our real problem is not Trump, he will go away.  It those who elected him.  They are not going anywhere.


    Yes, McCain should be (5.00 / 1) (#72)
    by KeysDan on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 04:56:33 PM EST
    careful.  what with lines such as ..."a land of ideals, not blood and soil."   Not good for even a Republican to be anti-Nazi these days.

    Thank you for putting that up (none / 0) (#51)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 12:17:06 PM EST
    Finally a link that would play for me.

    Trump doulbes down (5.00 / 2) (#71)
    by KeysDan on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 04:54:06 PM EST
    on his being caught flat-footed on having not called families of fallen soldiers(those killed in Niger)..and saying Obama and "a lot of other" presidents have not done so.

     Today, the White House defended Trump by invoking Chief of Staff John Kelly's son's death  during service in Afghanistan.  We are to ask if Gen (ret) Kelly was called by President Obama, implying he was not.

     Using Kelly's son in such a manner is not unusual for Trump, but it, once again, for me, allows questions to arise about Kelly...did he sign off on this despicable ploy?  To help the boss out?  Those looking to Kelly to save us from Trump, are barking up the wrong tree. They are both on the same page.

    By the way, there are photos of Gen Kelly's wife sitting at a table with Michelle Obama during a Gold Star family affair.  Also, I believe it is customary to call the next of kin, which would have been the wife of Kelly's son.  Parents are called if the fallen is unmarried.

    Given what Trump is reported to have said (5.00 / 4) (#101)
    by Anne on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 07:59:55 AM EST
    to one widow - a young woman with 2 children and a baby on the way - maybe we don't want him making those phone calls.

    He seems incapable of expressing anything resembling compassion or empathy, and seems always focused on making sure no blame for anything ever attaches to him.  "He knew what he signed up for" sounds like, "hey, don't look at me - I didn't do it."

    I get that some people are just uncomfortable in the presence of emotion, and Trump may be one of them, but come on - it's not that hard to come up with some stock phrases: "Melania and I are so sorry for your loss."  "As Commander in Chief, please know that the nation is grateful for your husband's service and great sacrifice in the defense of liberty; you and your children can be very proud of him."  

    At some point in our lives, we unfortunately have to start going to funerals and writing condolence notes.  We don't like doing it - no one does - but we all recognize that it isn't about our discomfort, it's about someone else's pain and grief and loss.

    This man is missing some important components of a mentally/psychologically healthy person, so there's no point in expecting him to act like one.


    reportedly (5.00 / 3) (#107)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 09:35:52 AM EST
    Trump just tweeted that the account of the phne call is a lie.  and he can prove it.

    which sadly probably means that this sickening sad embarrassing spectacle of dead soldiers reused as cannon fodder in Trumps war on everyone will continue for some time.


    General Kelly would not have received an (5.00 / 5) (#105)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 09:14:36 AM EST
    Initial condolence call. His son was married and not all families get along. The focus of immediate support when a soldier is killed is their legal immediate family. The spouse has many painful decisions and plans to make.

    After that phase I have seen different brass make calls to extended family when they know the family was close and supportive.

    General Kelly would have never received the initial call from the President though in this situation.

    I really can't believe Kelly has allowed this to go on either.


    Miss Huckabee Sanders, (5.00 / 3) (#134)
    by KeysDan on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 04:12:28 PM EST
    claimed in a presser that Chief of Staff, General John Kelly, thought Trump's call to Myeshia Johnson, widow of Sgt La David Johnson, the soldier fallen in Niger, was "respectful and completely appropriate."

    Kelly either heard what Trump said to Mrs. Johnson or believed what Trump said he said, and found it all OK.  In either case, it is a cause of concern about Kelly...his judgment or his belief that Trump was telling the truth (in the face of witnesses to the contrary listening on a speaker phone in a vehicle heading out to the airport to claim the remains).  

    Kelly has already dishonored himself by permitting, without voicing an objection, the tragedy of his own son, a fallen soldier, to cover for Trump's disrespecting President Obama.  

    It seems as if we need more day care minders so as to cover both Trump and Kelly.  Kelly has been lionized by the media as the grand adult in the room, but it seems to me, that he has long been over-rated and under-whelming. From his enthusiastic enforcement of Muslim ban 1.0, that included green card holders, to his repeated and sketchy defenses of Trump, including, again, "the appropriateness" of using a back channel at the Russian embassy, as proposed by Jared, Kelly has shown his affinity to right wing government at any cost.  

    Now, of course, Miss Huckabee may be lying about Kelly, which would not be unusual, but, so far, Kelly has not refuted her utterances on the matter.


    General Kelly through (none / 0) (#160)
    by KeysDan on Thu Oct 19, 2017 at 02:49:53 PM EST
    himself under Trump's bus.  The Chief of Staff was "stunned" that Congresswoman Wilson was listing in on the phone call from Trump.  It was all Ok in Kelly's Book of Moron.  The fallen soldier knew what he was getting into, ignoring the context and timing of the occasion of calling the wife.

    Of course, the Congresswoman was in the vehicle when the call was put on speaker by the family.  The vehicle was headed to the airport to meet the arrival of the remains.  Also, Congresswoman Wilson was a friend of the family.  

    Not much remains of the honor of Kelly; he is assimilated into this mess.


    Better: (none / 0) (#161)
    by KeysDan on Thu Oct 19, 2017 at 02:52:26 PM EST
    Kelly threw himself under the bus.  oops.

    I just saw Kelly's comments. (none / 0) (#162)
    by caseyOR on Thu Oct 19, 2017 at 03:18:43 PM EST
    I do not understand why he felt compelled to attack Congresswoman Wilson. If he had paid the least bit of attention to the news coverage he would have known that Wilson was not eavesdropping, which is the spin Kelly gave it, but was in the car with the family and the call was on speakerphone.

    Kelly described the way he was told about his son's death. The officer who came to his door was his best friend, and fellow officer, Joe Dunford. And Dunford's words may have made sense to and brought some tiny bit of comfort to a fellow Marine. That does not mean those same words would comfort the civilian widow of a fallen service member.

    Why Kelly chose this moment to castigate all of America save those in the military escapes me. His criticisms of all other Americans, our, in his opinion, lack of respect for life (sounded like a shot at abortion supporters) and religion and women made him sound like an angry old man railing at a world that had changed while he stayed the same.

    Kelly's grief over his son's death was very apparent. There is no getting over that grief. But his decision to rail at everyone who is not military and to defend Trump, that I do not understand.


    Assimilated (none / 0) (#163)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Oct 19, 2017 at 03:34:06 PM EST

    It was a painful thing to watch.

    And it was also clear, to me at least, Kelly was never the White knight he has been portrayed.  Anyone who can stand in front of cameras in defense of Trump and wax rhapsodic about the things that used to be sacred doesn't understand the problem he is supposed to be containing.

    That he could chastise the congress woman and give Trump, who started this, a pass actually frightens me.


    It would be funny if it was not (none / 0) (#74)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 05:09:26 PM EST
    He says today "Obama care is dead".  An hour later Murray and Alexander announce a deal to undo most of what he did with the payments.  Another hour later he is asked and tries to take credit for it saying he is all for it minutes later the White House puts out statements saying there is no deal as far as they are concerned.

    I suppose it's good they are trying to do something.

    On McCain, yeah, he better be careful.  Monkey boy might "mean tweet" him.  He definitely couldn't take that.


    ... I could only turn my head away in sad embarrassment at Trump's statement yesterday, and be thankful that my father and grandparents aren't alive to see this disgraceful daily spectacle in the White House.

    Oh Look What Happened in Wisconsin (5.00 / 3) (#159)
    by vicndabx on Thu Oct 19, 2017 at 01:49:05 PM EST
    After the election, registered voters in Milwaukee County and Madison's Dane County were surveyed about why they didn't cast a ballot. Eleven percent cited the voter ID law and said they didn't have an acceptable ID; of those, more than half said the law was the "main reason" they didn't vote. According to the study's author, University of Wisconsin-Madison political scientist Kenneth Mayer, that finding implies that between 12,000 and 23,000 registered voters in Madison and Milwaukee--and as many as 45,000 statewide--were deterred from voting by the ID law. "We have hard evidence there were tens of thousands of people who were unable to vote because of the voter ID law," he says.


    Colin Kaepernick files grievance against NFL (none / 0) (#3)
    by McBain on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 09:56:34 AM EST
    Warning, auto play CNN article

    Colin Kaepernick has filed a grievance against the National Football League in which he claims team owners colluded to keep him from being signed.

    The problem is Kaepernick isn't good enough to be a starter and is too much of a distraction to be a backup.  He also opted out of his contract this season with the SF 49ers, which would have paid him around 17 million.  

    He's good enough... (5.00 / 3) (#4)
    by kdog on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 10:11:50 AM EST
    to be a starter for several teams off the top of my head, and to be one of the best 2nd stringers in the league.  And teams have suffered far greater "distractions" from equal or even lesser talents.

    Not that I think Kaepernick was ever a distraction, all the dude ever did was kneel quietly on the sidelines...it is those up in arms about it that are causing distractions to teams and the league.

    I think he's got a fairly solid case for collusion against him.


    Kaepernick (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by jondee on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 10:42:39 AM EST
    pc or un-pc? You decide.

    I bet the Packers would like him right about now.


    Ditto (none / 0) (#5)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 10:16:55 AM EST
    I was watching the talking heads on t.v. (none / 0) (#8)
    by NYShooter on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 11:46:43 AM EST
    and, to a man (or, woman) they agreed, Kaepernick doesn't have a case. They said there's no way he can prove that the owners got together, and, decided to blackball him.....idiots!

    The lawyers here will have to help me out, but, I recall during the civil rights era companies were found guilty of discrimination and, it wasn't necessary to produce any sort of "smoking gun" to prove discrimination. The simple math of many, many qualified blacks denied employment while whites were hired was the proof. For example: 50 whites, and, 50 blacks apply. By all normal industry standards their qualifications were equal. The company hires 30 of the whites, and, 2 of the blacks. Gotcha, "de facto segregation."

    And, to Kap's qualifications:
    Over the past months I've seen and read all kinds of methods the NFL (and teams) measure, quantifies, and/or rates quarterbacks. Even I was surprised how high he ranked. The question, "is he good enough?" was answered in spades. Again, lawyers help me out, if Kaepernick can show there was a need for quarterbacks, and, that he was qualified, and, available, and every team with that need denied him employment, isn't that, "de facto collusion?" Even the teams that didn't have an immediate need denied him the opportunity to apply, and, all let him know, "don't bother applying."

    And, talk about hypocrisy! Teams hire all sorts of ex-cons, domestic abusers, and drug addicts. Oh, if discovered, they may get a couple of games suspension. But, make a quiet, dignified, political gesture.....Traitor! Commie! You're fired!

    Oh (sorry for the rant) but, I just remembered. As far as proof of collusion goes, guess who provided it? You guessed it, Donald Dimwit Trump hisself. On National TV no less, and, followed up with a phone conversation with Jerry Jones, owner of the Dallas Cowboys. Right after that conversation (or, collusion) he changed the team's rules, and, stated that any player who didn't stand for the anthem wouldn't play.


    Two articles today by lawyers. I'm ne is a sports (none / 0) (#41)
    by oculus on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 09:34:00 PM EST
    lawyer.  Burden of proof at arbitration is clear and convincing.  One article sd. discovery would be quite limited. The other article's author disagreed, but he was a labor lawyer.

    So, what do you think? (none / 0) (#58)
    by NYShooter on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 01:45:59 PM EST
    By every rating metric the NFL & teams use to rate quarterbacks Kaepernick scores higher than half the q-backs in the league. He's healthy, in shape, and, wants to play. From this layman's perspective, I believe he's met the, "clear and convincing," burden of proof. (Unfortunately, I don't count.)

    Also, what's your opinion as to how Trump's public pronouncement that the owners should, "fire the sons of bi!ches who didn't stand for the flag" AND, his subsequent phone conversation with Jerry Jones, owner of Dallas Cowboys, could affect the potential arbitration outcome? And, keep in mind, after the phone call, Jones changed his position, and, now threatens players with not playing if they don't stand.


    I saw Kaepernick's lawyer (none / 0) (#95)
    by McBain on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 12:06:20 AM EST
    Mark Geragos, on CNN talking about having some kind of smoking gun that would prove collusion. First he said you don't need to have one in a case like this but then he said he will probably have one soon.

    As I said before, I don't blame owners for passing on Kaepernick.  I wouldn't want him on my team.  But if there's actual collusion, it would be another black eye for the NFL.  

    An athlete who had a better case based on talent, was Barry Bonds.  After being one of best offensive players in baseball in 2007, no one offered him a job in 2008.  Bonds filed a grievance against MLB and lost.


    He did more than kneel quietly (none / 0) (#11)
    by McBain on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 01:29:50 PM EST
    He made statements and wore socks with police pigs on them.  I would never hire an idiot like that.

    As for his play on the field, he wasn't very good his last two seasons with the 49ers.  After he got a nice contract, he slimmed down, lost a lot of muscle and it didn't appear that football was his priority.

    Maybe if someone wants a running QB, they should take a risk but his passing just isn't good enough to help teams win.  


    Well, might as well look at some (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by Anne on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 02:04:59 PM EST
    real numbers, don't you think?

    Compare them, if you will, to the numbers for Joe Flacco, the Ravens' franchise QB.  

    Yeah, just take that in for a minute.

    Joe Flacco got a huge contract after the Ravens won the Super Bowl, and he's pretty much played like crap since.  

    Something tells me that if Kaepernick was a white guy with domestic violence or substance abuse issues, who stood for the anthem, you wouldn't give a rat's patootie if he wore women's underwear.  Nor would you consider him a distraction.

    And he is, by many accounts I've read, absolutely in football shape.  An example:

    Colin has been there since January, training with me five days a week. We have been getting ready for football as if he was a starting quarterback for an NFL team. When I read that people don't know if Colin wants to play football ... this guy's been doing it five hours a day, five days a week, like he has a starting NFL job. And we don't take days off.

    "This isn't a normal off-season, obviously. We are leaving no stone unturned. Working out, sleeping, eating, massages, getting ready to do it again the next day. Colin is not a guy at the clubs ... He is in the gym. We knew he was going to be dissected. We knew any chink in the armor was going to be dissected, so there are no chinks in the armor. We knew this was the be-all, end-all for us. Colin came in around 220 pounds; he lost all that weight last year because he was recovering from three surgeries. And now he's 230, a solid 230, and he's eating perfectly. He is putting extremely clean nutrients in his body. He does not put any garbage in his body. He believes in clean fuel.

    And while you try to make something out of him opting out of his contract, that might have had something to do with the fact that the 49ers were going to release him.  Oh, and he didn't collect nearly as much money on his contract as people think:

    The contract gave Kaepernick a $12.3 million signing bonus and a 2014 salary of just $645,000. Those were the only truly guaranteed portions of the contract, despite reports that Kaepernick's deal included a record $61 million in "guaranteed" money. It turned out the $61 million was only guaranteed if he were to suffer a career-ending injury.

    Each year of the contract after the first, the 49ers were free to cut Kaepernick and not owe him any more money.

    To make matters worse, Kaepernick was supposed to get his first large salary ($12.4 million) during the 2015 season. However, because of the way the contract was worded, that salary actually went down to $10.4 million. Kaepernick's salary went down $2 million each year if he was not named first- or second-team All-Pro, or if the 49ers didn't play in the Super Bowl the previous season with 80% of the snaps taken by Kaepernick. None of those things happened.

    Kaepernick eventually restructured his contract during the 2016 season, turning the 2017 season into a player option. Knowing that the 49ers were going to release him later in the summer, Kaepernick opted out of his contract in early March hoping to take advantage of becoming a free agent earlier and having more time to secure a new contract.

    In the end, Kaepernick's seven-year, $126 million contract turned out to be a three-year deal worth a tad more than $39 million. That is less than the three-year, $45 million contract Mike Glennon signed with the Chicago Bears this past offseason.

    And there are some pretty good QBs - Brady and Rodgers, to name two - who seem to think he deserves another opportunity.  

    If all you've got are knees and socks, I'm thinking you don't have much.

    Once in a while, you might give some thought to a little research.


    Anne, I live in the SF bay area (none / 0) (#15)
    by McBain on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 02:15:30 PM EST
    I've seen Kaepernick play on TV and in person.  At one point he looked like one of the best QBs in the league, or at least most dangerous because of his running ability and strong arm.  However, for various reasons, his performance went downhill in a big way.  He just isn't a consistent passer, lacks the finesse to make short throws.

    Is he good enough to be in the NFL as a backup, sure, but not a starter.  


    Judging QB talent (none / 0) (#16)
    by MKS on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 02:34:30 PM EST
    is a tricky business.  Even the experts get it wrong a lot.  The mental part of the job makes it hard to evaluate how any given QB will do in the future.

    Kaepernick has talent.  Whether that can be translated into on-field performance is not so easy for the casual fan to say.


    He's a great athlete (none / 0) (#21)
    by McBain on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 03:17:21 PM EST
    he's just not a good NFL quarterback anymore.  Perhaps, a few years ago, his throwing flaws were masked by his running ability and now he's lost a step?  Whatever the case, I don't blame owners for taking a pass on him.

    Ruan Leaf. (none / 0) (#42)
    by oculus on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 09:38:29 PM EST
    Off the the top of my head I can (none / 0) (#19)
    by caseyOR on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 02:58:09 PM EST
    name two teams that would be in better shape with Kaepernick than their current QBs. The Dolphins  were fools to give the job to Jay Cutler. Did no one on the Miami coaching staff look at film from Cutler's years with the Bears?

    And the hapless Browns. I don't see how anyone can honestly claim the the Browns would not be better off with Kaepernick than with their first or second or third string quarterbacks.


    To (none / 0) (#24)
    by FlJoe on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 04:47:52 PM EST
    be fair to the Dolphins, Cutler had his best years in Chicago while coach Gaze was OC. Cutler was  already well versed in the system, very important at the late date they picked him up.

    IMO, Cutler always had all the tools but his decision making was poor, personally I don't think Kaepernick has quite the arm strength and his decision making and other intangibles weren't exactly stellar but he was able to make up with with his legs.

    That being said, any  healthy quarterback that has shown he can consistently be competitive in the NFL deserves a roster spot somewhere, that's a no brainer.


    He seemed to have a lot of sympatico (none / 0) (#22)
    by jondee on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 04:02:39 PM EST
    with Harbaugh..

    Some coaches, like Rex Ryan, seem to suck the confidence and talent out of qbs. Maybe K's falling off had to do with the radically different situation he found himself in in SF.

    Hard to believe at that talent he had before just evaporated into thin air.


    Good point about Harbaugh (none / 0) (#23)
    by McBain on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 04:09:00 PM EST
    but as I said before, it didn't seem like football was Kap's #1 priority the past couple seasons. His body looks different... less muscle.  

    He had three surgeries in 2 months: (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by Anne on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 05:08:42 PM EST
    torn labrum in his left shoulder in November, 2015, and torn ligament in his right thumb, and left knee in January, 2016.

    I imagine that may have affected his body, don't you think?

    It may not "seem" to you that football was his main priority, but that "seems" to me to be the product of your imagination.


    Torn labrum (none / 0) (#30)
    by MKS on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 08:17:05 PM EST
    That is a Rice Krispies shoulder--it snaps, crackles and pops....click, click....

    I fear I may have one of those....

    But it can be scoped, or so I have read.


    It didn't. (none / 0) (#27)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 07:03:11 PM EST
    jondee: "Hard to believe at that talent he had before just evaporated into thin air."

    But the talent on the 49ers' coaching staff and front office sure did.


    Oh yes, the socks... (5.00 / 2) (#13)
    by kdog on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 02:06:43 PM EST
    I kinda liked those snazzy socks...you must really hate The Simpsons with Chief Wiggum.

    And statements...how dare he have an opinion!  Better than recent statements by Cam Newton, and he still got a job.  As he should...even if he's been playing crappy lately, he still is one of the best 96 people in the world at playing QB, as is Kaepernick.

    But fielding the best talent and winning are both secondary to the NFL and its owners main goal...making money.



    Quiet (5.00 / 3) (#80)
    by KeysDan on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 05:33:55 PM EST
     kneeling, but loud socks.  Unforgivable.

    "Idiot"? (5.00 / 2) (#18)
    by Yman on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 02:47:46 PM EST
    Because he "made statements" and wore socks???

    Pfffttt ...

    I think anyone willing to call him an "idiot" should take Trump's challenge and compare IQs/Wonderlic scores.


    re: `He did more than kneel quietly' (none / 0) (#34)
    by linea on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 08:34:38 PM EST
    his tacit endorsement of a brutal totalitarian dictator properly angered the Cuban community. and really, no rational or reasonable person should be endorsing or minimizing the horrors of communist totalitarianism.

    Unrepentant hypocrite Colin Kaepernick defends Fidel Castro
    Miami Herald

    My exchange with Kaepernick ended there, after about three minutes, because I was stunned how someone so outspoken about his beliefs could be so ignorant to facts not up for debate. I suppose he thinks he made salient points in our back and forth.

    All he did was expose himself as a fraud.

    So wear your Malcolm X shirt that features Fidel Castro, Colin Kaepernick. Wear it around a town where hundreds of thousands of Cuban exiles live with memories similar to mine. Wear it on the field Sunday during pregame if you're so proud of it.

    Show everyone what an unrepentant hypocrite you are.

    Colin Kaepernick Castro T-shirt is ignorant of facts, insulting
    Orlando Sentinel

    I'd type in a bunch of Cuban curse words if I could.

    There is no question that racial inequality needs to be a topic of conversation in the United States. But that gets us back to Cuba, where such conversations can get you in prison.

    My family left there in 1961. We left our home, our furniture, most of valuables and our relatives behind because we were seeking freedom. It wasn't for money, nor the opportunity to visit Disney and Universal.

    We wanted to be free, and the United States, bless its soul, gave us that opportunity.

    So yes, I find it personally insulting that  Kaepernick is oblivious to the fact that Castro is one of the most vile dictators of modern times with extensive human rights violations.

    Well-played. Your ignorance and stupidity goes well with your sense of comedic timing. We are done here.

    The Cuban ex-pat community (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by jondee on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 10:08:24 PM EST
    has always been a little too strident in their claim to the moral high ground, when one considers the kind of people they've welcomed into the bosom of their community over the years; people like the suspected terrorists Orlando Bosch and Luis Posada Carriles, and any number of drug and arms dealing ex-Nicaraguan Contras, who used to operate out of Miami with impunity, as if they were running some sort of international charity organization.

    Not good enough to be a starter? WTF? (5.00 / 2) (#26)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 06:58:25 PM EST
    McBain: "The problem is Kaepernick isn't good enough to be a starter and is too much of a distraction to be a backup."

    Colin Kaepernick helped lead the 49ers to a Super Bowl and three straight NFC championship games in three straight years. More NFL QBs should fail so miserably.

    And where are the 49ers today without Kaepernick? Why, I do believe that they're off to their first 0-6 start since 1979. As your buddy Trump would say, "So much winning."

    Bend and twist any more like that, and we'll mistake you for a pretzel.


    If he was as good as he was back then (none / 0) (#31)
    by McBain on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 08:19:30 PM EST
    He wouldn't be out of a job.  He's not the same QB.  

    Glory days, well, they'll pass you by (none / 0) (#35)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 08:45:17 PM EST
    Glory days, well, they'll pass you by
    Glory days, in the wink of a young girl's eye
    Glory days, glory days

    Long before he started his National Anthem kneeling protest:

    By Chris Burke November 03, 2015

    Football makes it easy to buy into the fantasy, easy to believe that a given successful stretch for a team will be the one that never ends and that any impending roadblocks can be dodged easily. So forgive the 49ers, if you will, for thinking that their run from 2011 to '13--three NFC title game trips and one near-miss in the Super Bowl--was the foundation for a burgeoning dynasty, led by a rising superstar quarterback.

    That was the fantasy.

    This is the reality: Two years removed from their last NFC Championship Game visit, the 49ers may be as far from competing for a title as any team in the league. That quarterback, Colin Kaepernick, will reportedly be benched this week for Blaine Gabbert, who hasn't started a game since 2013 and hasn't won in three years.

    [...] But Kaepernick's play has slid in concert with the 49ers' implosion, and the on-field issues have been just a part of the concern. FOX's Jay Glazer reported on his network's pregame show a week back that Kaepernick is "on an island inside that locker room." CBS's Jason La Canfora added on, tweeting Monday that newly traded tight end Vernon Davis "was among those sick of Kap walking around team headquarters with headphones on all day," all but confirming multiple reports of Kaepernick's reclusive approach to his teammates.

    Kurt Warner... (none / 0) (#55)
    by kdog on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 01:33:30 PM EST
    looked washed up and passed by when he was on a pretty bad Big Blue team...then he went to Arizona and was born again (pun intended) and went back to the Super Bowl.

    At the end of the game, a QB is only as good as his offensive line.  


    Yup, no one knows the unknowable. (none / 0) (#57)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 01:44:35 PM EST
    Although some will make statements like they do.

    I know but one thing... (none / 0) (#59)
    by kdog on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 01:55:17 PM EST
    I would have liked for the Jets to have signed Kap!

    It's inexplicable to me that no team in a  quality QB starved league took a flyer on the guy, based on talent alone. Certainly political decision, if not blacklist collusion.


    his kneeling that is a part of what makes teams uneasy to hire him.

    I'm speaking of this:

    Kaepernick is "on an island inside that locker room." CBS's Jason La Canfora added on, tweeting Monday that newly traded tight end Vernon Davis "was among those sick of Kap walking around team headquarters with headphones on all day," all but confirming multiple reports of Kaepernick's reclusive approach to his teammates.

    Just reading an article in SI this AM about Travis Kelce. He had a checkered rep before the draft (and has pretty much continued it since).

    Andy Reid calls him before KC's next pick, says "Hi, this is Andy Reid." Kelce says "Hey coach! How are you?" Reid says "Yeah, listen. Are you gonna f*ck this up? Are you gonna be the player we need or are you gonna keep being a young punk?"

    Point being that there's more to the equation than just stats. Lots more.


    There is more than stats and ability, true... (none / 0) (#62)
    by kdog on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 02:21:58 PM EST
    but have you seen some of these QB's on current NFL rosters?  He'd have to be the greatest cancer in the history of clubhouse cancers....and too many of his co-workers have come to his defense for me to believe that.

    have become fans of his because of his kneeling.

    Or perhaps more so... (none / 0) (#67)
    by kdog on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 02:50:40 PM EST
    for how he has been so maligned for kneeling.  

    The Ravens should have signed him (none / 0) (#7)
    by Chuck0 on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 11:12:58 AM EST
    Flaco sucks when pressured. Can't run, can't scramble. Kaepernick can do both.

    Ravens have more problems than (none / 0) (#9)
    by Anne on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 12:02:08 PM EST
    Joe Flacco, one of which is a crappy offensive line that isn't giving him the time.  

    Who are the Ravens this year?  Who knows?  But that a 1-4 team with a rookie QB could win in the Ravens' own stadium, is telling.

    They more or less beat themselves yesterday - too many stupid penalties, for one - and I find them to be terrible on offense and on defense on 3rd down plays.  Too many third-and-longs on offense, and unable to hold at 3rd-and long on defense.


    Would much rather have Kaepernick backing up Joe than Ryan Mallett, who is never going to be the answer.

    Sure am glad Bisciotti extended Harbaugh's contract another year...and I'm not too impressed with Ozzie's drafting over the last 5 or 6 years, either.


    ok, you know what? (none / 0) (#10)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 12:50:10 PM EST
    this is fu@king crazy.

    TORONTO -- Former hostage Joshua Boyle said Monday he and his wife decided to have children even while being held captive because they always planned to have a big family and decided, "Hey, let's make the best of this and at least go home with a larger start on our dream family."

    if you want to go on some kind of "humatarian mission" to one of the most dangerous places on earth.  fine.  taking you pregnant wife. probably a really stupid fu@king idea.

    the more i hear about this the more it amazes me.

    this person is an idiot.  if there was some kind of test for parenting, which unfortunately there is not, he would - or should - never pass.


    IMO this person absolutely deserved everything he got and more.  

    his family did not.

    Yeh, the more he flaps his mouth, (none / 0) (#64)
    by Zorba on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 02:29:36 PM EST
    the nuttier he sounds.
    I feel sorry for those kids, growing up in that household.

    Confusion in Jessica Chambers brutal (none / 0) (#14)
    by McBain on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 02:10:08 PM EST
    murder trial.

    Today it was reported the jury reached a verdict, then they said they didn't, they they said it was Not Guilty, then the judge threw out the verdict and made them deliberate again.  I have no idea what's going on.  Could be lousy reporting.

    This was the sad case of the young woman who was burned to death. I didn't follow the case very closely... mostly because the media dropped it like a hot potato when they found out the primary suspect was African American. Had it been the other way around it would have been a huge story.  

    Anyone know the details of the investigation?  I just remember it took a long time before they brought charges and there were rumors it had something to do with gangs and selling drugs.

    Looks like the reporting was accurate (none / 0) (#17)
    by McBain on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 02:41:26 PM EST
    Here's an embarrassing clip of the judge getting ready to read the verdict only to have one of the jurors tell him they haven't reached
    a unanimous decision....

    I wonder how often that happens?


    Got to see the new Blade Runner film (none / 0) (#38)
    by McBain on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 09:05:56 PM EST
    yesterday and was pleasantly surprised.  I hear it's not doing well at the box office but neither did the first one.  Having this one be almost 3 hours long probably didn't help.

    The original is one of my all time favorites, especially the "final cut" without the voice over narration and happy ending.    

    me too (none / 0) (#44)
    by linea on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 09:43:08 PM EST
    a friend took me to that movie yesterday. beautiful theatre, chocolate popcorn, served wine and everything.

    he loved the movie.

    i didn't like the movie for a variety of reasons - the male-centered fetishization of women that exist only to cater to a male's emotional and physical needs, the lack of an original story, the failure of the movie to make me care about any character, and the fact that harrison ford is in it. the only thing i was gratefull for is that they didn't give harrison ford a 22 year old girlfriend. anyway, my friend was irritated with me for not loving the movie and told me he would never bring me to any science fiction movie again. ever.

    why blade runner 2049 is a misogynistic mess
    by charlotte gush


    Moody Post apocalyptic sci fi films aren't (none / 0) (#46)
    by McBain on Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 11:05:31 PM EST
    for everyone.  This one was definitely made for men but some women did enjoy it as well.  Here's a female film and TV critic who's reviews I often enjoy...
    reviews I sometime enjoy...
    You might hate her but I like the comment she makes about Blade Runner fashion....  even though the worlds are supposed to be depressing, it would fun to be there because everyone looks so cool!

    She also had a good take on the Ghostbusters reboot.


    I think that "Blade Runner 2049" ... (none / 0) (#125)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 01:09:20 PM EST
    ... could've really benefitted from some judicious editing. Its basic plot and storyline were compelling. But clocking in at 2 hours and 45 minutes in length, the film was at least 25-30 minutes too long and meandered unnecessarily at times as a result. Neo-noir sci-fi parable meets post-dystopian Southern California travelogue.

    How do you feel about this (none / 0) (#136)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 05:57:40 PM EST

    Pretty impressive cast I guess.

    Still, Not as impressive as this one.

    It's hard for me to imagine why remaking this instead of something new is a great idea.  The 1974 version is excellent in every way.  

    Shrug.  I will see it on cable.


    Btw (none / 0) (#137)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 05:59:28 PM EST
    The tag line in "everyone is a suspect"

    Yeah.  No kidding.  I remember the ending.

    Surely they don't plan to change it.


    Drove through Napa tonight (none / 0) (#47)
    by Repack Rider on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 12:31:35 AM EST
    Once again after sunset, couldn't see any of the damage, but the smell was choking.

    Had to go the long way around, because the usual route is closed.

    Driving in the dark, I could see the glow of the fire line on the ridge top a couple of miles to the west.  Looked to be at least half a mile long.

    BREAKING: Latest Trump travel ban is blocked. (none / 0) (#61)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 02:19:06 PM EST
    The State of Hawaii won yet another injunction in federal court, as U.S. Judge Derrick Watson once again rules that the Trump administration's order ""suffers from precisely the same maladies as its predecessor," being that it's also "tainted by anti-Muslim animus."

    When is that island in the Pacific going to (5.00 / 2) (#68)
    by vml68 on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 03:29:48 PM EST
    realize that it cannot keep making decisions that affect the United States ;-)!

    U.S. District Judge, (none / 0) (#131)
    by KeysDan on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 02:18:38 PM EST
    Theodore Chuang, for the District of Maryland, also blocked Muslim Ban 3.0, saying that it is "an extricable re-animation of the twice-enjoined Muslim ban."  Judge Chuang's ruling is smaller in scope than that of Judge Watson, focusing on the "bona fide" relationship proof.

    Marino drug pharma flap (none / 0) (#89)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 07:18:27 PM EST
    one interesting detail about this that has not been reported much is the fact Marsha Blackburn, who was a favorite to take Corkers seat from TN is up to her neck in it.

    it could put another senate seat in play

    Maybe (none / 0) (#90)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 07:43:04 PM EST
    in the Tennesean article I read it seems that another person is going to jump into the GOP primary because of Blackburn's involvement in pushing opiods.

    if i read this correctly (none / 0) (#91)
    by linea on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 08:11:08 PM EST
    looked like president trump's most reasonable nomination to date.

    seems the DEA wanted to restrict manufacturers from sending medication to pharmacies that needed the medication to fill doctor's prescription - and Marino wasn't onboard the insanity.

    seems stupid and cruel to mandate that manufacturers can only ship a small and restricted quantity of pain medications to each pharmacy.

    "sorry person dying of cancer, we can't fill your doctor's prescription for pain medication because we already distributed our limited quota of pills this month."

    The Post reported Sunday that Marino and other members of Congress, along with the nation's major drug distributors, prevailed upon the Drug Enforcement Administration and the Justice Department to agree to an industry-friendly law that undermined efforts to restrict the flow of pain pills that have led to tens of thousands of deaths. President Barack Obama signed the law in April 2016.

    You didn't...read it correctly, or read (5.00 / 3) (#94)
    by Anne on Tue Oct 17, 2017 at 09:10:31 PM EST
    enough, or with comprehension.

    Please do us a favor and refrain from trying to argue the eminent reasonableness of the Marino nomination.

    Does this seem reasonable to you?

    Some viewers from West Virginia were alarmed to hear that one pharmacy in the town of Kermit, with a population of 392, received shipments of nine million hydrocodone pills over two years.

    one thing seems clear (none / 0) (#102)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 08:58:53 AM EST
    if we really want national legalized pot the solution seems simple.  now that pot is a booming industry.

    we just start buying congress people.  this episode makes glaringly clear all the nonsense about the war on drugs was really just about the fact they were getting a piece of the action.

    i say lets give it to them if thats what it takes.


    as to the comment you replied to (none / 0) (#103)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 09:03:52 AM EST
    3 million hydros per year per person seems completely reasonable kind and humane.  

    definitely an excellent nomination.

    but seriously, it does remove any doubt about "how could anyone possibly believe that"

    assuming that was a sincere comment and not just yet another lame attempt at trolling.


    my opinion (none / 0) (#139)
    by linea on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 07:11:35 PM EST
    distributors are required to report suspicious orders from pharmacies. what the DEA wants to do is choke distribution to pharmacies. i oppose this.

    and to the people hysterical over Kermit: the pharmacist, James Wooley, lost his licence and went to prison for illegal dispensing.


    typically (3.67 / 3) (#141)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 07:35:07 PM EST
    you dont have a clue what you are talking about

    Even if every single person in (none / 0) (#104)
    by Zorba on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 09:14:00 AM EST
    Kermit was on hydrocodone (admittedly, hugely unlikely) and took it three times a day for two years, that's less than one million pills.
    Where did the other eight million pills go?
    They just magically disappeared into the ether, I'm sure.

    no (none / 0) (#106)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 09:32:22 AM EST
    they didnt.

    i have been reporting for some time that rural america is drowning in hydros.

    its the drug of choice of teenagers, their parents and their grandparents.


    If Hillary had taken those areas (none / 0) (#113)
    by jondee on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 11:59:56 AM EST
    reich-wing radio would probably be claiming Professor Moriarty-Soros was behind the opioid scourge.

    One of theories put forth concerning the factors leading up to 2007-2008 debacle was that there were too many over-medicated and self-medicating people working on Wall St. Point being that Some amount of experienced anxiety has survival value and prevents people from engaging in overly reckless behavior.


    I have to say (none / 0) (#119)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 01:03:41 PM EST
    I would not be surprised if there was massive opioid use and influence on the housing collapse. Those people were making completely reckless decisions. Or maybe I have watched too many movies about the 80's and Wall Street and all the cocaine they were shoving up their noses back then.

    A lot of adderall, a lot of coke (none / 0) (#133)
    by jondee on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 03:33:52 PM EST
    a lot of anti-depressants, and a lot of anti-anxiety meds is what I've heard from pretty reputable sources.

    The common thread being that these are substances that can drastically moderate important signals you're getting from your body.


    Each person in Kermit would had to have (none / 0) (#120)
    by Anne on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 01:05:21 PM EST
    taken around 11,500 pills a year, which works out to around 32 pills per day.

    But really, at 32 pills per day, there would have been no Kermit after the first 24 hours - they would all be dead, I think.


    That (none / 0) (#121)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 01:07:58 PM EST
    Or really REALLY constipated.

    Seriously, they would have all died of constipation.  This is EXPERIENCE talking.


    that other person (none / 0) (#108)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 10:20:19 AM EST
    will not be Marsh Blackburn who has 100% name recognition in that state.

    a new FOX poll has Roy Moore dead even with the democrat.

    the poll is a bit of an outlier but its FOX and even if its a 5 point race that means its a race.  

    if a democrat wins in Alabama....
    i am at a loss as to how to finish that.



    If Democrat Doug Jones wins in Alabama, ... (5.00 / 1) (#117)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 12:47:16 PM EST
    ... that will surely be seen by the Christianist right as a sign of the impending apocalypse. So, since the black cat's out of the bag and strolling under a standing ladder, I might as well say it out loud now: Hail, Beelzebub, Prince of Darkness and Lord of Evil. Let Armageddon commence.



    Amen! (none / 0) (#118)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 12:49:44 PM EST
    Or whatever......

    not sure (none / 0) (#123)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 01:08:32 PM EST
    whether name recognition or being up Trump's behind works for or against Blackburn in TN. I'm so old I remember the days when the border states of TN and KY were considered more moderate.

    Doug Jones is probably the best candidate we have run in AL in a long time. The polls have been incredibly close like less than 5 points ever since Roy won the primary.


    A Fort Rucker instructor (none / 0) (#124)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 01:09:15 PM EST
    Stayed with us 2 weekends ago for the yearly Army 10 Mile. He told us that Ft Rucker was very anti Roy Moore. I wasn't sure what to make of it though. He teaches at the Warrant Officer College and most of the college didn't support Trump either. We weren't sure that hearing the area around Ft Rucker being anti Roy Moore meant anything.

    Roy Moore (none / 0) (#127)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 01:13:15 PM EST
    Is going to be the face of republican America, 2018.

    My money, based on absolutely nothing, Moore loses.


    The AL race (none / 0) (#138)
    by Chuck0 on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 07:08:49 PM EST
    got me to do something I have never done in the past, contribute to a candidate I can't vote for. Maybe it's getting others to do something they have done before. Vote for a Democrat.

    I wonder (none / 0) (#143)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 08:22:42 PM EST
    if the GOP might just not back Moore very much and are willing to take the hit simply due to the fact that one senate seat is not going to be worth having the entire party be Roy Moore.

    Though with Trump i'm not sure how that is going to work. Pence is just a slightly more polished version of Moore.


    i dont think (none / 0) (#145)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 08:37:19 PM EST
    they will abandon Moore.  mostly because there is every indication he will be one of many.  there is the X-con on Staten Island and "chemtrails" kelli out in AZ.

    and Bannon is just getting started.  

    no.  they may implode and self destruct but not abandon anyone.


    Yes, Roy Moore (none / 0) (#146)
    by KeysDan on Thu Oct 19, 2017 at 09:35:58 AM EST
    is the future face of the Republican party.  Not a pretty face, but one in the mold of the party's leader.  Roy has received money from some "very fine people," ....Nazis.

    The next very important test is the governor's race in Virginia...Republican Gillespie and Democrat Northam.  Gillespie has been endorsed by Trump, but is a little shy in glomming onto him. Obama will campaign for Northam.


    AMERICAN HORROR STORY (none / 0) (#109)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 11:04:44 AM EST

    if you have not been watching all I can say is eventually you will.

    This is tv for the time capsule.  Tv that will be viewed and studied 100 years from now.

    Every time I think it can they better, it does.

    It's so good I'm not sure I can stand it.  

    I get it.  Not for everyone.  TOO topical.  Too soon.  All true.  Hard to watch.  No doubt.

    They edited (but not much) a shooting segment after Las Vegas.

    Seriously, this is a thing.  


    Eonline (none / 0) (#110)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 11:12:15 AM EST
    Are you afraid of bees? Clowns straight out of Hot Topic? White people in sombreros? Wasted bottles of rose? Beautiful but creepy middle upper class homes? Reliving the night of the 2016 election???

    If you answered yes or no or maybe to any of those questions, American Horror Story: Cult may or may not be for you. If you giggled at any or all of those questions, it's definitely for you.

    One other thing (none / 0) (#111)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 11:34:16 AM EST
    It seems impossible to me that it was a coincidence that AHS/C airs there Zodiac episode the day after TCM airs the amazing 2008 short film THE GRAND INQUISITOR.  Which I recorded and watched yesterday.

    It would take to much bandwidth to explain why.

    If you want to know, watch both.

    I had never heard of this short film.  It's on line.  Watch it if nothing else.


    "They are at their best .... (none / 0) (#114)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 12:15:37 PM EST
    ....when they are angry.  Don't you think?"

    "Aren't we all"


    I can't stand it


    I watched it last week (none / 0) (#115)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 12:17:55 PM EST
    Under the influence

    That was a bad idea

    I have no tolerance

    I was almost crawling under the couch


    No doubt (none / 0) (#116)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 12:19:58 PM EST
    It requires a level of desensitization many will not have.



    Single payer (none / 0) (#122)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 01:08:27 PM EST
    In these United States, at least for now, (5.00 / 1) (#140)
    by Jack E Lope on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 07:15:13 PM EST
    ...the death panels are in private hands, not accountable to the people.

    A (none / 0) (#126)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 01:11:09 PM EST
    For effort!

    You can't (none / 0) (#129)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 01:28:28 PM EST
    let go of the Nazi framing can you?

    and this is exactly the kind of thing conservatives would embrace. Heck, conservatives want to deny people care especially smokers and obese people. Heck, conservatives think people not getting treatment for diabetes and dying is a good thing.    


    "Single payer"? (none / 0) (#142)
    by Yman on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 08:21:32 PM EST
    Trying to attack single payer as a whole because of one system's (new) policy.

    You're funny.

    BTW - You're aware that insurers in this country also sometimes deny surgery for smokers and obese people ("aka "disfavored minorities" - heh) and have done so for many years.  Guess we should attack "Private/For Profit Insurance".


    guy on Ellen DeGeneres:

    Campos said he was called to check on an open door on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel while he was on the 31st floor. However, when he went to the stairwell, he found the door to the 32nd floor was jammed. Campos walked up to the next floor and came back down to the 32nd floor to check why the door wasn't opening.

    Campos said the door was jammed using "brackets," so he called engineering, which sent Schuck up to look.

    As Campos was walking back down the hallway, with his back to the suite Paddock was in, the gunman opened fire. Campos said he realized he had been hit and was bleeding.

    Schuck reached the 32nd floor and then approached the same hallway, completely unaware of the situation unfolding.

    "Once I got more than halfway [down the hallway] is when I saw Jesus and heard shooting," Schuck said. "At first I thought it was a jackhammer.

    "Jesus leaned out and said, 'Take cover, take cover,' and yelled at me and within milliseconds, if he didn't say that, I could've got hit."

    Schuck described the "pressure" of the bullets flying past his head as he immediately ducked behind a door frame for cover.

    If you can, please (none / 0) (#130)
    by NYShooter on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 02:15:47 PM EST
    explain to me what the significance is regarding the exact number of minutes? To an outsider, me, it almost sounds like if they determine that the number of minutes between 1 and 6 is established, the whole case is solved.

    I know that sounds dumb, but, with the media, apparently, disinterested in anything else, the exact # of minutes must be the key to solving this case.


    I would say (5.00 / 1) (#135)
    by FlJoe on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 04:24:01 PM EST
    the significance could be a matter of millions. Mark my words there will be a plethora of lawsuits targeting the hotel, any hint of malfeasance on their part will very damaging to them.

    I don't think a detailed and accurate timeline would solve anything (especially the mystery of the motive), but the shifting narrative and timeline does provide plenty of red meat to the CTs and plenty of gristle for the media to chew on.


    focus on the minutes, I think the number of minutes can assist in either praising or condemning the police response, whichever floats your boat.

    Kind of ironic (none / 0) (#144)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Oct 18, 2017 at 08:30:16 PM EST
    all this discussion about opiates because tonight I went to the funeral home to give some solace to someone who just lost their daughter. She was a long time addict due to being given opiates as a pain killer when she was young like middle school young. Sad to see that she had been clean for 6 months and then actually died of medical complications. I was glad for her mother on that account.

    The most dangerous time (none / 0) (#151)
    by CST on Thu Oct 19, 2017 at 10:22:46 AM EST
    A lot of deaths happen after the person has tried to get clean.  Their tolerance has gone down and they relapse, using the same amount that they used previously and overdose.

    I've been to a few funerals that happened that way and it's just heartbreaking, because the one thing they had right before the end is hope.


    Thank you (none / 0) (#153)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Oct 19, 2017 at 10:29:14 AM EST
    So true.

    So sorry... (none / 0) (#158)
    by kdog on Thu Oct 19, 2017 at 01:27:33 PM EST
    for your friend's loss.  We haven't seen a public health epidemic like this since the height of the AIDS crisis.

    Richard Spencer at UF (none / 0) (#147)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Oct 19, 2017 at 09:52:12 AM EST
    There is about to be a big party at the University of FL.

    White supremacist Spencer rented a hall for 10 grand for a "white party"

    Law enforcement has already spent more than 600,000 preparing.  

    Hate speech is NOT doing what free speech (5.00 / 1) (#154)
    by vicndabx on Thu Oct 19, 2017 at 11:32:21 AM EST
    defenders think it is doing.

    Critical race theorists Richard Delgado and Jean Stefancic addressed this possibility in a 1992 Cornell Law Review article entitled "Images of the Outsider in American Law and Culture: Can Free Expression Remedy Systemic Social Ills." They coin a term for the erroneous belief that "good" antiracist speech is the best remedy for "bad" racist speech: the "empathic fallacy." The empathic fallacy is the conviction "that we can somehow control our consciousness despite limitations of time and positionality ... and that we can enlarge our sympathies through linguistic means alone."

    In other words, the empathic fallacy leads us to believe that "good" speech begets racial justice and that we will be able to tell the difference between it and racist hate speech because we are distanced, objective arbiters.

    NPR Opinion

    Finally, this:

    White people are an absolutely crucial component in the discussion and actions that must take place in order for concrete progress to occur, particularly in the current political climate. But in order for their participation to be valuable, they must be willing to confront white supremacy head-on rather than by way of harmful mental gymnastics. There is no way to productively ask a person to participate in an argument that questions their equality as an epistemological experiment.

    This crap, and it is crap, needs to be outlawed.


    What? No after-party at Mar-a-Lago? (none / 0) (#148)
    by Anne on Thu Oct 19, 2017 at 09:59:06 AM EST
    I just sometimes can't believe the level and extent of the insanity.

    Where is all this going to end?


    It's said they first refused (none / 0) (#149)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Oct 19, 2017 at 10:12:29 AM EST
    And he threatened a lawsuit so they relented.

    Heard an interesting idea about funding the approaching one million dollar security bill.  Spencer says he will distribute tickets to his supporters.

    The suggestion was UF say, fine, you can speak but there will be a 1000 dollar door fee to offset the security.

    Be interested in the lawyers opinion of that.  While preemptively saying I don't care what they say I think it's a great idea.


    That's 1000 per nazi (none / 0) (#150)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Oct 19, 2017 at 10:13:41 AM EST
    To be clear

    George W (none / 0) (#152)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Oct 19, 2017 at 10:28:05 AM EST
    Is now speaking live on MSNBC

    It will be on the web soon.

    He addresses this and so much more.

    W never looked better.


    The heir to Coulter and Michelle Malkin's (none / 0) (#155)
    by jondee on Thu Oct 19, 2017 at 12:40:37 PM EST
    publisher Regnery, apparently bankrolls Spencer, whose family also benefited from the Big Government farm subsidy teet to the tune of a cool 2 mil in the 2000s.

    Maybe it's a little clearer now (5.00 / 1) (#156)
    by jondee on Thu Oct 19, 2017 at 12:59:02 PM EST
    to some why Fox regular Malkin has, on more than one occasion, gone out of her way to vent her spleen at the Southern Poverty Law Center.