Suspect Ahmed Khan Rahami

Ahmed Khan Rahami, the suspect in the Chelsea pipe bomb explosions, has been charged with "five counts of attempted murder of a law enforcement officer and second-degree unlawful possession of a weapon in connection with the shootout in Linden, N.J., that led to his arrest."

Police do not suspect he is part of a larger terror cell.

New York Mayor Bill de Blasio said after Rahami’s arrest that authorities were not looking for any other suspects. "There is no other individual that we are looking for at this time ... but vigilance is called for.


How they identified him:

Federal agents identified Rahami using security video from the Manhattan location where one bomb exploded and nearby, where an unexploded device was discovered, authorities said.

They also recovered at least one fingerprint from the unexploded bomb that they linked to Rahami, a U.S. law enforcement official said.

His parents run the "First American Fried Chicken Restaurant" in Elizabeth, New Jersey."

Authorities say the explosive used was "tannerite." The devices were crude and unsophisticated, suggesting an amateur:

Investigators do not believe that the bomber or bombers received extensive training to make the relatively crude devices for several reasons. For one thing, the U.S. law enforcement official said, fewer than half of the devices exploded or partially exploded.

Placing it in a dumpster also signals someone inexperienced:

The placement likely saved lives and reduced the severity and number of those injured in the blast. Someone trained in how to place explosives — and not just learning how to craft them from the Internet — would not likely have chosen such a location, according Patrick Skinner, a former CIA case officer and a director of the Soufan Group, a New York-based security firm. Another bomb was discovered nearby before it could explode.

Don't tell that to the so-called terror expert who served as a pundit on CNN today. As I was driving home today around 5:15, I had CNN on the radio. The pundit, portrayed as a terror expert, said exactly the opposite: He said it was unlikely someone could learn to make this bomb on the internet and that the individual didn't just wake up one morning and decide to make a bomb, the device was too sophisticated and the explosive too rare.

Cable news has become such a waste of time. And the number of commercials on CNN on Sirius is ridiculous.

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    As Marge Gunderson (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by KeysDan on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 09:21:44 AM EST
    might say, 'I like your police work."  Law enforcement is doing an excellent job; and as I will say, the elected officials have acted reasonably and responsibly.

     The contrasts are glaringly stark when viewed against the inflammatory and irresponsible statements of shoot-from-the-hip Trump, from blaming the Syrian refugees to freedom of the press.

    Excellent police work. (3.00 / 3) (#36)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Wed Sep 21, 2016 at 11:29:45 AM EST
    The FBI closed an investigation into this dirt bag in 2014 after being tipped by his father that he was a terrorist when the father later recanted. That despite him traveling to Pakistan for extended periods both before and after 2014 and being described by a friend as having changed and become more religious.

    The Boston bomber, the San Berdoo shooter, and now this guy. Politically correct fear of being labeled as Islamophobic may be excellent police work for career and promotion prospects, but little else.

    The only thing this travesty is missing is promotions and letters of congratulation to those in the FBI that closed the 2014 investigation for their "excellent police work" in resisting the temptations of dreaded Islamophobia.  


    Not that you have the slightest basis (5.00 / 3) (#37)
    by Peter G on Wed Sep 21, 2016 at 11:33:26 AM EST
    to assert that concern about being labeled prejudiced was a factor in closing the investigation in 2014.

    At a minimum (none / 0) (#50)
    by TrevorBolder on Wed Sep 21, 2016 at 05:01:42 PM EST
    3 incidents may be more than a coincidence. They might want to re examine all the closed cases in the last 5 years, and at least check where they have travelled to since the case was closed.

    You know what would be (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by Yman on Wed Sep 21, 2016 at 12:55:45 PM EST
    ... a nice change-of-pace with these "theories"?

    Facts and evidence to support them?


    Could Be a Question of Resources (none / 0) (#40)
    by RickyJim on Wed Sep 21, 2016 at 12:19:53 PM EST
    Another interpretation of the failure to maintain surveillance on Rahami is that other people appeared to be more worthy of the time and effort.  Do you have a foolproof algorithm to do the optimization?

    Behavioral profiling. (none / 0) (#51)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Wed Sep 21, 2016 at 06:19:17 PM EST
    1. Lengthy stays in Pakistan or other hotbeds of radical Islam.

    2. Attends radical mosque

    3. Associates note a change to be more religious.

    So, 1 and 3 are not that Unusual (none / 0) (#52)
    by RickyJim on Wed Sep 21, 2016 at 06:48:54 PM EST
    And I haven't seen 2 mentioned anywhere before.  The visiting of Pakistan, where his wife's family is, may not have been regarded as something of concern.  I know of plenty peaceful Pakistanis, doctors, lawyers, engineers, who make a yearly visit there.  Anecdotal evidence is not enough to prove becoming more religious is a reliable guide to terrorist tendencies.  If you or that NYPost reporter have a better way to put people on surveillance lists, using current funding, by all means contact the FBI and give your proposal and supporting data.  

    Is Trump (5.00 / 3) (#11)
    by KeysDan on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 10:04:10 AM EST
    channeling Stalin and his show trial mentality? In speaking to his followers in Florida, Trump said to cheers:  "What a sad situation.  We must have speedy but fair trials for all defendants and must deliver a just and very harsh punishment to these people."  

    Perhaps this crowd was Trump's favorites, the poorly educated, or like Trump, himself, the richly ignorant. But, awareness of the US Constitution must have escaped them, as well as, news flashes such that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev received the death penalty, which most would not consider a slap on the wrist.

    Trump, too, saw a "bad part," in capturing Ahmad Khan Rahami alive because he will be treated to "amazing" medical care, the "best" doctors (maybe, even as good as Dr. Harold Bornstein?), an updated hospital room (not those old WWI wards?), and "even room service." (yes, Trump, these updated hospitals do deliver food to the patient's bed, when they should make patients go out and get their own food at a nearby McDonald's, pretty cushy, breakfast in bed, folks, believe me, that should be stopped).

    No statements on the "good part" of capturing this guy alive and treating him, like less blood on the streets of Linden, NJ, and, maybe, even, perhaps, learning something important from the captive.

    It's very irresponsible to kill (5.00 / 1) (#66)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Sep 22, 2016 at 08:25:33 AM EST
    A terror suspect. As long as they are alive they are capable of sharing information.

    Trump is too irresponsible to be President


    Ahmad Khan Rahami's Father Gave Police Terrorism Tip in '14, Officials Say

    Two years before the bombings that Ahmad Khan Rahami is suspected of carrying out in New York and New Jersey, his father told the police that he suspected his son might be involved in terrorism, prompting a review by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the agency said on Tuesday.

    The father, Mohammad Rahami, in a brief interview, said that at the time he told agents from the F.B.I. about his concern, his son had just had a fight with another of his sons and stabbed the man, leading to a criminal investigation.

    "Two years ago I go to the F.B.I. because my son was doing really bad, O.K.?" he said. "But they check almost two months, they say, `He's O.K., he's clean, he's not a terrorist.' I say O.K."

    He added: "Now they say he is a terrorist. I say O.K."

    O.K. (none / 0) (#25)
    by Mr Natural on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 07:15:45 PM EST
    oh well (3.50 / 2) (#3)
    by linea on Mon Sep 19, 2016 at 11:00:38 PM EST
    CNN: "he visited an area of Pakistan known for its Taliban presence"

    maybe Rahami was shown how to make bombs on one of his multiple trips to Afghan or Paki or while hanging out with some Taliban buddies? why is america importing terrorists?

    Isn't he an American citizen? (5.00 / 4) (#4)
    by Peter G on Mon Sep 19, 2016 at 11:08:57 PM EST
    What do you mean by "importing" terrorists?  

    Naturalized citizen (none / 0) (#6)
    by TrevorBolder on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 04:44:41 AM EST
    So far no connection to anyone else in his family, and have read that he was "more religious" after his recent trips to South Asia.

    They didn't import a terrorist, Rahami just found his way there.

    Born in Afghanistan in 1988, federal authorities described Rahami as a naturalized U.S. citizen.

    Rep. Albio Sires, D-N.J., who represents the district where Rahami lived, said the suspect appears to have been married and traveled to south Asia in recent years. Sires said Rahami contacted his office in 2014 by email from Pakistan, where he was having a problem getting a visa for his wife to enter the country because she had an expired Pakistani passport.

    it's almost impossible (none / 0) (#27)
    by linea on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 07:44:18 PM EST
    for a 25-year old woman colorist from norway to move to the united states but the gates seem wide-open for the highest risk men from areas of the world with institutionalized ideologies  dedicated to killing you. it's like "omg! naturalized U.S. citizen from afghanistan did that? who would have thought!"

    that's just how i feel.


    As I've pointed out several times before (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by Peter G on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 07:53:12 PM EST
    Feelings are no substitute for facts.

    Peter G: "As I've pointed out several times before, feelings are no substitute for facts."

    ... are considered such in a alt.-right parallel universe in which facts are either routinely ignored, or regularly challenged as mere matters of personal opinion.

    Our country is in mortal peril of falling through Alice's looking glass into the middle of an absurdist white-wing world, a place where the law is not necessarily as it is written but rather, is interpreted as whatever the far right desires it to say, whenever they wish it to be so.



    It's been happening for a while Donald. (none / 0) (#46)
    by fishcamp on Wed Sep 21, 2016 at 03:05:14 PM EST
    Take the Constitution for example.  It has been twisted and molded to fit our needs, and when I read parts recently, I was astounded by the original words.

    And just look at our courts today. (none / 0) (#47)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Sep 21, 2016 at 04:27:41 PM EST
    In a world where ethical propriety actually takes precedence over crass  and / or transient political desires, the majority of justices on Wisconsin's Supreme Court would've been run out of Madison a long time ago.

    How can anyone who believes in the law look at what those justices did in shutting down the John Doe investigation on behalf of the investigation's target, Gov. Scott Walker, and not want to puke in their laps? The justice system itself became corrupted by dark money, and as a result it failed the people of Wisconsin spectacularly here.



    The John Doe (none / 0) (#49)
    by TrevorBolder on Wed Sep 21, 2016 at 04:55:35 PM EST
    Investigation in Wisconsin was a blatant and outrageous abuse of law enforcement for political purposes

    Once again, Trevor, you have ... (none / 0) (#56)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Sep 21, 2016 at 09:44:06 PM EST
    ... absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Did you even read the linked article in The Guardian? Of course you didn't, because you're likely thinking, "I better not do that, since the leaked documents contained therein undermine my specious contention and baseless argument."

    Nosiree, bubbie, facts to you are manifestly inconvenient nuisances to be avoided whenever they run counter to whatever wingbat narrative you happen to be pushing at a given moment, because reality obviously has a liberal bias. Better to just put your hands over your ears and go, "La-la-la-la-la, I can't hear you, 'cause I'm not listening! La-la-la-la-la!"

    And such is life in the parallel universe of the willfully clueless. Back here on Planet Earth, the Beloit Daily News has called today for the John Doe investigation to be reopened, given the recent leak of sealed documents which the GOP majority on the Wisconsin Supreme Court had ordered destroyed.

    Because based on the contents of those documents, it's painfully apparent that those justices were far more interested in shielding Gov. Walker from political peril, than they were in uncovering and remedying the inherent political corruption in his office. And that's the last I'll say about this, because we're off-topic.



    I read (none / 0) (#60)
    by TrevorBolder on Thu Sep 22, 2016 at 05:42:52 AM EST
    All about the case while it was happening, the extreme and onerous measures placed upon the "defendants" the fascist methods used, a teeneager scared for his life as SWAT teams broke down the doors of his familys house, how any mention of what was going on was threatened by court order.
    Fascism in Wisconsin.



    The Wisconsin John Doe affair is one of the more shameful episodes in modern American political history, in which a hyper-partisan Democrat district attorney weaponized the Wisconsin legal system against innocent families as part of a vicious and unhinged political crusade against conservatives. An assembly line of rubber-stamped search warrants and subpoenas, early-morning raids, threats from police officers to keep quiet, wanton property seizure: "I no longer feel safe," one victim said, "and I don't think I ever will."

    The victims received such treatment simply because they dared to hold political opinions offensive to Wisconsin Democrats

    Fascism in Wisconsin

    Cindy Archer, one of the lead architects of Wisconsin's Act 10 -- also called the "Wisconsin Budget Repair Bill," it limited public-employee benefits and altered collective-bargaining rules for public-employee unions -- was jolted awake by yelling, loud pounding at the door, and her dogs' frantic barking. The entire house -- the windows and walls -- was shaking. She looked outside to see up to a dozen police officers, yelling to open the door. They were carrying a battering ram. VIDEO: David French Discusses `Wisconsin's Shame' She wasn't dressed, but she started to run toward the door, her body in full view of the police. Some yelled at her to grab some clothes, others yelled for her to open the door. "I was so afraid," she says. "I did not know what to do." She grabbed some clothes, opened the door, and dressed right in front of the police. The dogs were still frantic. "I begged and begged, `Please don't shoot my dogs, please don't shoot my dogs, just don't shoot my dogs.' I couldn't get them to stop barking, and I couldn't get them outside quick enough. I saw a gun and barking dogs. I was scared and knew this was a bad mix." RELATED: Politicized Prosecution Run Amok in Wisconsin She got the dogs safely out of the house, just as multiple armed agents rushed inside. Some even barged into the bathroom, where her partner was in the shower. The officer or agent in charge demanded that Cindy sit on the couch, but she wanted to get up and get a cup of coffee. "I told him this was my house and I could do what I wanted." Wrong thing to say. "This made the agent in charge furious. He towered over me with his finger in my face and yelled like a drill sergeant that I either do it his way or he would handcuff me.

    "Fascism" - heh (5.00 / 2) (#61)
    by Yman on Thu Sep 22, 2016 at 06:33:05 AM EST
    With links to the Federalist and National Review.  Funny how law-and-order conservatives suddenly launch into hyperbole when their own are subject to the same, common police procedures used against others hundreds/thousands of times every day.

    Again (none / 0) (#62)
    by TrevorBolder on Thu Sep 22, 2016 at 06:41:21 AM EST
    Discuss the facts. Signs of no argument, you deflect to the "Source".

    The facts, Wisconsin liberals were losing at the polls , consistently, and used a corrupt DA to silence conservative groups (IRS strategy again).
    Using storm trooper early morning raids to terrorize housewifes and teenagers, and then court orders not to discuss the reasons for the raids WITH ANYONE. (Letting neighbors wonder what the hell those people did to deserve the SWAT assaults upon their home. )

    Because they wanted no publicity for their illegal actions.


    Stupid conspiracy theories ... (5.00 / 1) (#64)
    by Yman on Thu Sep 22, 2016 at 08:15:20 AM EST
    ... aren't "facts".  Moreover,  when you're citing a source as evidence to support your silly theories,  their credibility is always relevant.

    BTW - Who said their actions were "illegal"?  Besides you,  of course.


    Curious, Fishcamp, about which (none / 0) (#48)
    by Peter G on Wed Sep 21, 2016 at 04:33:43 PM EST
    provisions in particular struck you that way.

    OMG Peter G (none / 0) (#67)
    by fishcamp on Thu Sep 22, 2016 at 02:02:50 PM EST
    You gave me a flashback to about the sixth grade when we first learned, and had to write about freedom and democracy.  Democracy was difficult for me, but freedom seemed easy.  I wrote, since we won the war my dad was free to come home.  I knew the Japanese and German people were bad, but were they still bad and could they go home too.  The teacher read my paper in class, which got me called teachers pet for awhile.

    The 27th and the proposed 28th amendments had been confusing, but after reading them a few times, I see my mistake.  One of the gym guys had been saying that Senators and Representatives were exempt from prosecution for insider trading.  I knew this couldn't be true and merely looked it up.  

    My ACLU constitutional amendment pamphlets still have not arrived.  Thanks Peter for making me think.


    The 27th Amendment - the most recent (5.00 / 3) (#68)
    by Peter G on Thu Sep 22, 2016 at 02:23:04 PM EST
    to be adopted - is super interesting, since it was an article of the original Bill of Rights that didn't get enough state ratifications in the 1790s to pass. And yet it gained a few more in in early 1990s and thus became part of the Constitution. It provides that whenever Congress votes to raise its own pay, the increase cannot go into effect until after the next election, thus guaranteeing the voters a chance to disapprove and throw them out.

    Tell it to Baudelaire ;-) (none / 0) (#72)
    by jondee on Thu Sep 22, 2016 at 11:49:13 PM EST
    he was 8 (5.00 / 1) (#35)
    by BackFromOhio on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 10:15:50 PM EST
    years old at the time he came.

    This doesn't quantify (none / 0) (#34)
    by TrevorBolder on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 09:33:27 PM EST
    the difficulty in immigration, just the numbers.


    In 2014, Mexican immigrants accounted for approximately 28 percent of the 42.4 million foreign born in the United States, making them by far the largest immigrant group in the country. India, closely trailed by China (including Hong Kong but not Taiwan), and the Philippines were the next largest countries of origin, accounting for about 5 percent each. El Salvador, Vietnam, Cuba, and Korea (3 percent each), as well as the Dominican Republic and Guatemala (2 percent each), rounded out the top ten. Together, immigrants from these ten countries represented close to 60 percent of the U.S. immigrant population in 2014.

    I hope you realize ... (none / 0) (#57)
    by Erehwon on Wed Sep 21, 2016 at 10:43:19 PM EST
    that the country names are Afghanistan and Pakistan, and the people are Afghan and Pakistani respectively. The incorrect usage of the words here to refer to the countries, especially the use of the P word (which is pretty much as offensive as the N word), is definitely deplorable or worse, imho.

    to be detonated by a high speed projectile, like a bullet.

    This bomb was supposedly detonated by a cell phone.

    Maybe Rahami has an arm like Nolan Ryan?

    Don't bet on that. (none / 0) (#38)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Wed Sep 21, 2016 at 11:34:26 AM EST
    Yes, extreme shock will set it off, but so will fire.

    It Has Never Been Explained (none / 0) (#2)
    by RickyJim on Mon Sep 19, 2016 at 10:37:12 PM EST
    How the Boston Marathon bombers were able to make bombs that worked on their first try. Dzhokhar said in the hospital that by reading an article in Inspire Magazine, they made a number of bombs, 2 pressure cooker used at the marathon, a pipe bomb and some grenades used in a subsequent fight with the police.  Also unknown is where they made them.  The above comments seem to make a sort of connection between the two cases in that experts have said they could not have done it alone.

    Hillary claims (none / 0) (#5)
    by Redbrow on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 04:10:32 AM EST
    It is linked to international terrorist organizations who used video of Trump to recruit this terrorist.

    I sure hope she has the the evidence to back up such a bold claim or else she is a kooky conspiracy theorist.

    She said that? (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by Yman on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 09:11:50 AM EST
    And yet you can't actually quote her or post a link.

    Can't find a transcript (none / 0) (#16)
    by Redbrow on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 03:32:18 PM EST
    I am surprised even the most casual news folllower coild have missed this yesterday.

    But here is video where Clinton was asked specifically about the NY bombing and the link to Trump and ISIS.


    and I suppose (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by FlJoe on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 03:57:44 PM EST
    it's difficult to google to see if she was telling the truth. Here, there and everywhere

    So, you really think (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by jondee on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 03:59:20 PM EST
    they're utterly unaware of Trump and the statements he's made, and more to the point, the thing's said every day by the likes of the Pam Geller crowd?

    It's not a stretch at all to imagine that those who want to get young recruits hepped up would play videos of people like Trump, supplemented by their own anti-U.S commnentary..


    Of course you can't find it (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by Yman on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 05:30:05 PM EST
    ... because it doesn't exist.

    I'm surprised even the most casual observer would confuse what your Youtube video showed with what you originally (and falsely) claimed:

     Hillary claims It is linked to international terrorist organizations who used video of Trump to recruit this terrorist.

    No, she didn't.  She said nothing about Trump and Rahami.  Your "kooky conspiracy theorist" is simply a kooky, strawman argument.


    This is incrediably difficult (none / 0) (#17)
    by Redbrow on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 03:34:04 PM EST
    To do the preffered way on iphone so I will just post the url.

    It is short and won't mess up the page format.



    BTW - For the "casual followers" ... (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by Yman on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 05:42:02 PM EST
    ... who may have missed it, video of Trump IS, in fact, being used by terrorist organizations to recruit more terrorists.  

    Donald Trump now being used in terrorist propaganda videos, Hillary Clinton says



    really? (none / 0) (#29)
    by linea on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 08:02:58 PM EST
    "Al Shabaab, the East African affiliate of the al-Qaida terrorist group... says the United States... will be a land of religious discrimination [if Donald Trump is elected].

    and i'm supposed to take what from that? an al-Qaida endorsement of Hillary? ok, you got it.


    No, .... not "really" (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by Yman on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 09:04:10 PM EST
    What you're "supposed to take" from it is exactly what I said.  RedBrow made a false claim about what Hillary said.  What she actually said was that videos of Trump's statements are being used by terrorist organizations to recruit more terrorists. a completely true statement.

    I have no idea what you're trying to say, but don't try to put words in my mouth.


    If it's true (none / 0) (#39)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Wed Sep 21, 2016 at 11:38:38 AM EST
    What is the name of just one recruit?  

    Reading skills and basic logic (none / 0) (#41)
    by Yman on Wed Sep 21, 2016 at 12:52:11 PM EST
    Not as easy as we assume.
    Al-Shabab video with Trump.  

    ISIS Video with  Trump after Brussels attack.

    Maybe watching the actual videos is easier?


    Ok (none / 0) (#43)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Wed Sep 21, 2016 at 01:45:05 PM EST
    So nary a single actual recruit the.

    And? (none / 0) (#44)
    by Yman on Wed Sep 21, 2016 at 01:55:12 PM EST
    You want a statement from a recruit that they joined because of Trump, otherwise you ignore the undeniable evidence that already proves her statement is true?


    That's funny.


    Not at all (none / 0) (#58)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Wed Sep 21, 2016 at 11:06:34 PM EST

    Just some proof that at least one person was recruited on the basis of Trumps statements.  

    That you cannot come up with even one says it all.


    Nice try (5.00 / 1) (#59)
    by FlJoe on Thu Sep 22, 2016 at 05:18:16 AM EST
    at deflection, we are not discussing the efficacy of these videos, just their undeniable existence. Who knows if they work or not, but obviously terrorist groups thinks it helps them. Terrorist groups are using Trumps hateful rhetoric as propaganda, period.

    Indeed. What it says is... (5.00 / 1) (#63)
    by Yman on Thu Sep 22, 2016 at 08:09:26 AM EST
    ... that you can't deal with the incontrovertible truth of what Clinton said,  so you have to resort to a strawman argument. Clinton never said "ISIS recruited (x number) of recruits using Trump."  What she said was that terrorists were using his statements in their recruitment videos, which is 100% true.

    BTW - Tell ta what (none / 0) (#65)
    by Yman on Thu Sep 22, 2016 at 08:18:14 AM EST
    You provide a link to the statements from the tens of thousands of terrorists where they outline their personal motives,  and I'll go through them for the "proof" of your strawman argument.   Oh, wait ... that's right.

    You can't.


    Snap out of it (none / 0) (#30)
    by FreakyBeaky on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 08:27:13 PM EST
    That's not an endorsement.

    They know religious discrimination benefits them, but you don't seem to get that.


    im supposed to be (none / 0) (#31)
    by linea on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 09:00:48 PM EST
    comforted by the knowledge that DTs rhetoric is all it takes to push mild-mannered muslims over the edge and inspire them to become homicidal maniacs murdering parisans lunching at outdoor cafes?

    because that's all im getting from this "trump in al-qaeda video" silliness.


    No (5.00 / 2) (#33)
    by Yman on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 09:14:14 PM EST
    You're supposed to read what's being written.  The rest of that silliness is all on you.

    Maybe Trump is not the sole cause (5.00 / 2) (#53)
    by MKS on Wed Sep 21, 2016 at 07:53:34 PM EST
    but he is not helping.  And if he were President his unhelpfulness would only increase.

    like i said (5.00 / 1) (#54)
    by linea on Wed Sep 21, 2016 at 08:22:30 PM EST
    if mild-mannered muslims are one trump-gaffe away from becoming terrrorist maniacs, than we have a serious problem... with mild-mannered muslims not trump. just sayin'

    or maybe your premise is fallacious? maybe mild-mannered muslims aren't teetering on the edge of religiously-motivated homicidal rage? you tell me.


    ISIS I think (none / 0) (#69)
    by MKS on Thu Sep 22, 2016 at 09:20:30 PM EST
    know more about how to recruit than you.

    They think Trump is playing into their hands.

    Your support of this guy cannot wipe out the actual facts that his comments are being used to recruit terrorists.


    replying to MKS (none / 0) (#71)
    by linea on Thu Sep 22, 2016 at 09:35:20 PM EST
    again, if you believe muslems are sent into insane murderous rampages machine-gunning movie-goers splattering blood on the walls because Trump is an intolerant loudmouth than we have a SERIOUS problem and it's not with Trump.

    Most of them are radicalized as teens (none / 0) (#73)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Sep 22, 2016 at 11:50:52 PM EST
    Psychologically we have two bondings that shape our identity, one in infancy when we bond to family and our teen bonding shapes who we are in the world. When Donald Trump acts like he is and does what he does he is creating the next angry disenfranchised generation. If he were President, voted into office by a majority of Americans...match meet kindling.

    You're right (none / 0) (#75)
    by Yman on Fri Sep 23, 2016 at 08:11:10 AM EST
    It's a "serious problem" with  strawman arguments,  rather than addressing what's actually being stated.

    The mayhem in Europe (5.00 / 1) (#55)
    by TrevorBolder on Wed Sep 21, 2016 at 08:25:58 PM EST
    The terrorists there are not incited by and have no relation or connection to Donald Trump.
    The terror attacks here have not been incited by Donald Trump.
    One thing they have in common is they have been encouraged by ISIS or Al Qaeda, mainly through the internet, or travels to those regions.

    Radical jihadists hate the Western world, whether Donald Trump is President or just another reality show host, they will still hate the western world and its culture.

    Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton could be President, and they will continue to plan terror attacks against us.


    Trump gives ISIS (none / 0) (#70)
    by MKS on Thu Sep 22, 2016 at 09:24:18 PM EST
    the Religious War and Class of Civilizations that they crave.

    You seem to imply that the war against the terrorists is a War of Civilization.  You would be with Trump in that regard.

    It is about winning the war of ideas.   And we need to defeat the ideology and show it is bankrupt.  They are not religious warriors; they are failed criminals.  We need to take away the glamour and heroism in joining ISIS.   Trump just fans the flames.


    I believe (none / 0) (#74)
    by TrevorBolder on Fri Sep 23, 2016 at 06:07:26 AM EST
    the Religious War and Class of Civilizations that they crave.

    They already have it.

    Just read anything put out by ISIS or Al Qaeda

      They are not religious warriors; they are failed criminals.  We need to take away the glamour and heroism in joining ISIS.

    Some are recruited in prison.

    The last 2, Orlando, and NYC, and Boston for that matter, were not criminals, but found themselves as religious warriors in a clash of civilizations.


    So, you agree (none / 0) (#76)
    by MKS on Fri Sep 23, 2016 at 10:52:50 AM EST
    it is a war that is a Clash of Civilizations?  East v. West; Christian v. Muslim.

    The Crusades Part Deux?

    Only if we make it so.   Big mistake.  But one that the Right truly wants:  A big ideas war against all of Islam.   My god is stronger than you god.....

    Rank stupidity.


    No, I don't (none / 0) (#77)
    by TrevorBolder on Fri Sep 23, 2016 at 03:56:38 PM EST
    I do not believe that Christians are actively attacking and targeting Islam.
    I see nothing to lead you to say that.

    So you're suggesting the converse ... (none / 0) (#78)
    by Yman on Fri Sep 23, 2016 at 05:09:24 PM EST
    ... is true?  Muslims are actively attacking and targeting Christianity?

    A small (none / 0) (#79)
    by TrevorBolder on Fri Sep 23, 2016 at 05:29:35 PM EST
    Very violent portion of Muslims are actively attacking and targeting anyone which does not follow their beliefs, Muslim, Christian , Jew.

    But they also have a special place of contempt and hate for the Western world


    Indeed (none / 0) (#80)
    by Yman on Fri Sep 23, 2016 at 05:59:00 PM EST
    There is a small number of extremist Muslims who do such things - at least you now acknowledge it
    s a "small portion".  Then again, there are also a number of extremist "Christians" who have " a special place of contempt and hate for the Muslim world".

    Small number (none / 0) (#81)
    by TrevorBolder on Fri Sep 23, 2016 at 06:29:51 PM EST
    Between 100k and 250 k

    But the real alarming number is the polling in many Moslem nations as to the popularity of ISIS and Al Qaeda,

    They are viewed positively in too many countries, with populations in the hundreds of millions.

    LOL, Southern Poverty Law??

    Citizens for National Security
    United States Defense League
    Atlas Shrugs

    The Southern Poverty Law group places any organization opposed to liberal democrats on its hate group list.


    Yep - the SPLC (none / 0) (#82)
    by Yman on Fri Sep 23, 2016 at 06:39:18 PM EST
    A group that's orders-of-magnitude more credible than you wingers.

    don't you mean (none / 0) (#15)
    by jondee on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 02:46:51 PM EST
    "not kooky enough", Red?

    You guys have set the bar almost impossibly high with forn-born-forner Presidents and Sandy Hook as a false flag..


    "It's never easy to find out (none / 0) (#7)
    by Mr Natural on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 07:09:34 AM EST
    ... that your friend is a terrorist," Podhradsky told me yesterday, hours after Rahami -- a naturalized U.S. citizen from Afghanistan -- was captured in a shootout with police a few blocks from where she had brought her daughter to a play date.

    - Jessica Heslam, Boston Herald, 9-20-2016

    More background reporting (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by Mr Natural on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 07:56:35 AM EST
    "less than half" (none / 0) (#12)
    by Mr Natural on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 11:48:36 AM EST
    For one thing, the U.S. law enforcement official said, fewer than half of the devices exploded or partially exploded.

    If the comment seems like an adequate Engineering Review of the bombmaker's work, consider the 30% failure rate of the professionally, American manufactured, unexploded ordinance that litters warzones like Laos.

    They still blow up.. (5.00 / 2) (#13)
    by jondee on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 11:53:53 AM EST
    only it's forty years later and in the faces of little kids burying their pet kitten..

    People still get killed in France by buried WWI ordinance.


    ... unexploded Japanese bombs in Pearl Harbor, which obviously dates back to the Dec. 7, 1941 attack on Oahu. And when we were in the Solomon Islands in 1997, there were several areas of Guadalcanal cordoned off from human traffic due to the proliferation of unspent WWII-era ordinance. Munitions can have a very long shelf life, and continue to pose a dire threat to human life in former war zones, long after the armed conflicts themselves were finally resolved.

    "A Police Source said: (none / 0) (#14)
    by Mr Natural on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 02:20:55 PM EST
    "Who in this world finds a pressure cooker with a phone and just takes the bag?"

    The Irish Mirror:

    Thieves 'accidentally disabled second New York bomb by pulling out wire while stealing bag saving dozens of lives'

    Revenge is mine, sayeth the Yelpers (none / 0) (#20)
    by Mr Natural on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 04:33:28 PM EST
    I guess harassing the suspect's father (5.00 / 3) (#26)
    by Peter G on Tue Sep 20, 2016 at 07:34:17 PM EST
    is the American way of thanking him for trying to turn in his son to the authorities before he hurt anyone. That'll teach him to think he can be a responsible member of our community.