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Weiner and Clinton Aide Huma Abedin Split

By Jeralyn, Section Elections 2016
Posted on Mon Aug 29, 2016 at 02:47:27 PM EST
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Anthony Weiner has gotten caught sexting again. His wife, Clinton aide Huma Abedin issued a statement saying she is leaving him.

"After long and painful consideration and work on my marriage, I have made the decision to separate from my husband. "Anthony and I remain devoted to doing what is best for our son, who is the light of our life. During this difficult time, I ask for respect for our privacy."

Trump issued a statement blaming Hillary. That's absurd. David Plouffe, Obama's 2008 campaign manager, yesterday called Trump a psychopath. I could do without the name-calling, but Trump does seem to just make stuff up, and uninformed and lazy people who can't be bothered to fact-check buy into it.

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    The issue is Trump's reaction (5.00 / 2) (#9)
    by MKS on Mon Aug 29, 2016 at 03:34:36 PM EST
    There is no personal pain he will not try to exploit for personal gain.

    Ana Navarro has it right:

    Link

    Trump is a drowning man (none / 0) (#13)
    by jondee on Mon Aug 29, 2016 at 03:46:48 PM EST
    clawing in every direction at the surface of the water.

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    A sorry situation, sad (5.00 / 2) (#17)
    by KeysDan on Mon Aug 29, 2016 at 04:18:24 PM EST
    for all involved. Anthony Weiner is troubled and needs sustained professional help to manage his self-destructive personality.  Sad, too, for Huma who apparently tried to support Anthony and save their marriage.  And, unfair to their baby boy. Difficult to speak to the marriage of others, but a separation may be the best shock therapy, but it seems to have progressed beyond such optimism.

    Sad, too, for Trump, who should be able to appreciate the difficulties of marriage and its dissolution, for reasons that are not just neglecting to put the toilet seat down. But, not surprising, since that would require empathy and an ability to genuinely move beyond self-absorption and put himself in the shoes of others.

    This goes far beyond (1.00 / 2) (#25)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Aug 29, 2016 at 06:46:48 PM EST
    a martial problem.  Redbrown nailed it.

    Huma has demnstrated carelessness and nishandling of classifed material before. It is reasonable to question if she left classifed material lying unprotected around the house the same way she did in her car.

    Weiner's reckless cheating and Huma's enabling made them both prime targets for blackmail

    Will it make any difference to many on the Left?

    No. As Heinlein wrote.

    What are the marks of a sick culture? It is a bad sign when the people of a country stop identifying themselves with the country and start identifying with a group. A racial group. Or a religion. Or a language. Anything, as long as it isn't the whole population.


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    Trump (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Aug 29, 2016 at 07:23:09 PM EST
    must be sharing the information he's getting in national security briefings with everybody if he's saying that. He must be giving the information to Melania, Putin the Russian mafia and everybody.

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    Really?? (1.00 / 2) (#35)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Aug 29, 2016 at 10:55:25 PM EST
    Getting desperate, eh?

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    Actually (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Aug 30, 2016 at 06:23:59 AM EST
    you're the one that's getting desperate. You're playing six degrees of Kevin Bacon here. Trump always accuses people of doing exactly what he's doing. Desperate is accusing someone else for Weiner's own behavior. You guys are really just sad.

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    Indeed (none / 0) (#49)
    by Yman on Tue Aug 30, 2016 at 02:41:53 PM EST
    You are.

    Gonna be a rough November for you.   :)

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    You go far beyond (5.00 / 2) (#40)
    by Towanda on Tue Aug 30, 2016 at 10:16:22 AM EST
    the bounds of decency.  You are akin to Trump.

    I denounce both of you, on behalf of every woman -- and there are many of us -- who has been advised, and even ordered by courts, that she must allow her child or children to be with a father who has an addiction or other issues.  

    Especially on a law blog, you ought to know better.  But you long have proven your inability to learn.

    We will cast our ballots with your ilk in mind.    

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    I think it goes beyond the bounds of decency... (none / 0) (#42)
    by kdog on Tue Aug 30, 2016 at 10:53:25 AM EST
    to imply Weiner is a bad father and should have his kid taken away...assuming facts not in evidence (on a law blog).  

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    There does not (none / 0) (#43)
    by KeysDan on Tue Aug 30, 2016 at 11:01:21 AM EST
    seem to be any bounds to the indecency of Trump, his rabid surrogates and feverish supporters. The commenter glomed onto your basic odious right wing talking point.  There are the putrid alt right falsified sapphic depictions that go beyond the beyond.  

    This is all Trump and the Republicans have got. Tragic, but, true.

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    The NYT also did so (5.00 / 3) (#44)
    by Towanda on Tue Aug 30, 2016 at 11:31:23 AM EST
    and is getting roundly trashed for its continuing to trash any remaining standards of journalism -- any remaining after others' exposes of the NYT history in covering the Clintons.

    This, after the AP's Katherine Carroll's idiocy in attempting to defend the AP's excuse for an expose.

    I am so glad that I left journalism.

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    I (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by FlJoe on Tue Aug 30, 2016 at 12:47:29 PM EST
    am not glad that journalism has apparently left us.

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    Some years back, NYT's Patrick Healey (5.00 / 2) (#48)
    by christinep on Tue Aug 30, 2016 at 02:24:34 PM EST
    wrote a story/article that purported to be about the number of nights the Clintons spent together under the same roof at their Chappaqua home. Yep, that was a fun one, that was one piece-of-hard-to-swallow trash. Displayed front & center around the time of the 2008 primary, the tale led me to joke about the potential for another story recounting the amount of toilet paper used in the master bath.    

    I have noticed that Mr. Healey is trotted out, periodically to perform a similar service for the NYT.

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    aka the night I stopped regularly watching MSNBC (5.00 / 1) (#50)
    by ruffian on Tue Aug 30, 2016 at 03:29:37 PM EST
    Still remember Tweety salivating over that one.

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    As Charles Pierce (5.00 / 3) (#52)
    by Nemi on Tue Aug 30, 2016 at 04:08:41 PM EST
    writes about NYT in general and specifically about a piece Healy co-wrote with Amy Chozick, The New York Times Tried to Make the Weiner Story a Clinton Story, and the Result Is Embarrassing:

    This is horrible. This is ghastly. This is cheap shot by deliberate imprecision. This is the kind of thing that would get thrown back in the face of rookie reporters in Seagoville, Texas.

    What "shadow," precisely, is it that her husband's misbehavior is casting over Ms. Abedin? Other than the fact that summoning up this "shadow" is a way to get the words "classified information" into a story about the sad public dissolution of a marriage, as well as a way to wedge in a reference to the Clinton Foundation. This is one large storage space of a "shadow." I mean it. Who in the unholy fck thinks like this?

    That's what I wonder. What kind of people are they? And, to quote Pierce:

    Loyal readers deserve better.


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    Actually (none / 0) (#51)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Aug 30, 2016 at 03:50:42 PM EST
    She did not exactly defend it.  What she did was even more incredible


    Nevertheless, the AP refused to delete the tweet.
    Kathleen Carroll, the AP's executive editor, was confronted by CNN's Brian Stelter about the inaccurate tweet.
    Asked directly by Stelter if she would agree that the tweet is "inaccurate," Carroll said the AP was better at "breaking stories and covering news... than we are on tweets." She said the tweet needed "more precision."
    Pressed by Stelter, Carroll said she did not "regret" the tweet because, if she did, the AP would have deleted it. She then acknowledged that the tweet was "sloppy."

    THINK PROGRESS

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    Ah ha! (none / 0) (#47)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Aug 30, 2016 at 01:55:27 PM EST
    Another "Trumpunderstanding."

    Outside the fervid swamps of define Hillary and attack Trump..... Everyone understands that saying something goes far beyond a martial misunderstanding, etc., doesn't mean that the martial bit is excused.

    But you knew that.  

    Now, what's your real problem?

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    not to mention (none / 0) (#53)
    by BackFromOhio on Tue Aug 30, 2016 at 05:16:14 PM EST
    Modo whose disdain has no limits

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    Actually (5.00 / 3) (#41)
    by jbindc on Tue Aug 30, 2016 at 10:27:50 AM EST
    We should all be more concerned as to what national security Manafort, Bannon, and Ailes have seen or will see.  You know, people directly involved with the campaign.

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    Prime targets for blackmail.. (none / 0) (#29)
    by jondee on Mon Aug 29, 2016 at 07:52:10 PM EST
    in other words, the hard-right dirty tricksters might threaten to talk about for months on end, rather than just weeks on end.

    Roger Stone would, under ordinary circumstances, prefer to spearhead the efforts, but right now he's too busy being turned on.

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    Meanwhile (5.00 / 2) (#30)
    by FlJoe on Mon Aug 29, 2016 at 08:41:08 PM EST
    This disappears down the rabbit hole
    FBI and Justice Department prosecutors are conducting an investigation into possible US ties to alleged corruption of the former pro-Russian president of Ukraine, including the work of Paul Manafort's firm, according to FBI amultiple US law enforcement officials.
    .  If we were living in the real world that would be the story.

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    Trying to change the subject? (1.00 / 3) (#34)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Aug 29, 2016 at 10:54:00 PM EST
    lol

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    Clinton (5.00 / 2) (#36)
    by FlJoe on Tue Aug 30, 2016 at 05:21:51 AM EST
    never hired Weiner, Trump made Manafort his main man, you tell me which story should get the most scrutiny. Trump attacks Hillary over a twice removed, rather minor, sex scandal but he gets a pass for hiring a possible illegal foreign agent with deep ties to the Russians.

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    You are trying to change the subject. (1.00 / 1) (#38)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Aug 30, 2016 at 08:00:33 AM EST
    Won't work.

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    Actually those who handle (none / 0) (#39)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Aug 30, 2016 at 08:13:30 AM EST
    the higher levels of classified material are considered to be blackmail targets and in the military, and other government agencies, an affair will get your clearance pulled.

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    What does that have to do with Weiner? (5.00 / 1) (#56)
    by jbindc on Wed Aug 31, 2016 at 08:38:08 AM EST
    He doesn't have clearance, nor handles classified information, you know, because he isn't directly involved with the campaign.   (How much classified material does a campaign have anyway?)

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    I guess you have (none / 0) (#57)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Aug 31, 2016 at 09:04:29 AM EST
    never heard of "pillow talk."

    A man named Petareus got into a heap of trouble over it.

    And why do you bring up the campaign? Weiner has been her husband for years...including when Hillary was SecState.

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    I guess no one who is in a relationship (5.00 / 2) (#60)
    by CST on Wed Aug 31, 2016 at 09:58:23 AM EST
    Should ever have security clearance by this metric.

    Seriously - what are you trying to imply?  That since she was married she can't be trusted?

    Petraeus got into a heap of trouble because it was proven he was intentionally leaking information.  Do you have any evidence that Huma was doing that?  

    You can't prove that someone isn't doing something, it's impossible.  I can't prove you aren't a murderer.  But the whole justice system is predicated on the fact that until you prove someone is doing something that person is not guilty.  So I will continue to assume that you haven't actually murdered anyone, despite the fact that I have no evidence that you haven't.

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    A couple of thoughts (1.00 / 1) (#63)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Aug 31, 2016 at 01:43:34 PM EST
    1. Intent is used to determine degree.  Obviously Hillary was as grossly negligent as a drunk driver killing someone in a wreck.

    2. You try and defend by taking a point to the extreme. IF the person involved would suffer serious damage to their reputation if their relationship/acts were exposed then they should not have a security clearance. That's been the benchmark since day 1.

    3. Thousands of people have been convicted on circumstantial evidence not as strong as her's.


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    Well as for her reputation (none / 0) (#64)
    by CST on Wed Aug 31, 2016 at 01:50:53 PM EST
    She wasn't doing anything.  Her acts didn't damage anything.  Last I checked, we don't punish people for getting cheated on, not even in the military - it's the person who is having the affair that gets in trouble.  Furthermore, who is going to blackmail someone about something that the whole world already knows (her husband's indiscretions)?

    What possible circumstantial evidence do you have that she exposed state secrets?

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    The issue is this (1.00 / 1) (#66)