DNC Opens in Philadelphia

By Jeralyn, Section Elections 2016
Posted on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 01:32:29 PM EST
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It's Day One of the DNC. Among the prominent speakers tonight are Michelle Obama,Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren.

Debbie Wasserman Schultz of Weston, chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, will not open the convention (she resigned this weekend.) The opening, at 4pm, will be done by Baltimore Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake, secretary of the Democratic National Committee.

The online streaming coverage seems messy, with intrusive comment feeds, live pundit commentary and multiple video frames. The You Tube channel for the DNC is here. [More....]

Bill Clinton is speaking Tuesday, but I'm skipping the rest of the night's program -- it's all mothers of deceased sons, including Trayvon Martin's mother. Wednesday: I'll watch Obama, but I have no interest in hearing from Joe Biden or victims of gun violence. Nor do I care to watch "ordinary people" tell their stories.

Having attended the DNC in Boston in 2004 and Denver in 2008, both of which I very much enjoyed, this year's convention seems far too divisive and overly focused on particular sub-groups rather than all Democrats. I hope they do more than say Trump will be a disaster. They need to expound on policy, and if all they do is harp on gun violence, there's little chance they'll sway any Republicans or Libertarians to vote for Democrats in November.

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surprised Michelle is speaking again (5.00 / 9) (#4)
by CST on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 02:19:03 PM EST

She might be the only person to have a speech at the RNC and DNC in the same year.

: A Daily News Bin tweet was funny (5.00 / 1) (#77)
by ding7777 on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 07:20:23 PM EST

I just hope Michelle Obama's speech at the Democratic Convention lives up to Michelle Obama's speech last week at the Republican Convention.

I don't remember enough about the other (5.00 / 2) (#6)
by ruffian on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 02:58:04 PM EST

conventions to know what subgroups were highlighted at that time- veterans probably? I think part of a convention is to let all of the base constituents of the party a chance to talk about what is most on their minds that year. Obviously no one has to watch anything they are not interested in.

: Also there are positive reforms (5.00 / 3) (#8)
by ruffian on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 03:30:13 PM EST

that can be made to police training that have been proven to decrease violence. Most LEO agencies are not funded to train their officers in conflict de-escalation procedures that can work to defuse dangerous situations. Congress should fund such training immediately. This is an area where politics can actually save lives. I hope it is talked about at the convention.

Bernie Sanders spoke earlier in Philly today, ... (5.00 / 1) (#7)
by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 03:14:21 PM EST

... and told his crowd of supporters that "they're not fringe players any more." Well, they will be again soon enough, if they keep acting as though they still are.

: his supporters are being (5.00 / 3) (#14)
by athyrio on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 04:19:01 PM EST

very selfish...they don't seem to realize that the big tent democratic party also includes others than the progressives....it is like saying that the republican party includes just the tea party....

Sanders sending out (5.00 / 2) (#13)
by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 04:16:50 PM EST

Text messages that say

REMAIN CALM

hey Bernie, maybe you should have thought of that six months ago when you were encouraging and enabling every infantile impulse.

What ever happens it's your fault.

I like a man who can simplify (none / 0) (#21)
by jondee on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 04:36:57 PM EST

a complicated issue so it'll fit on a bumper sticker or even a postage stamp.

The Republicans need men like you.


Sanders has begun to understand (none / 0) (#27)
by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 04:51:31 PM EST

He has fked up. Maybe beyond his ability to fix it. With possible consequences for the country to disasterous to even imagine

"I ask you as a personal courtesy to me to not engage in any kind of protest on the floor," he wrote in the text message to his delegate whips. "Its of utmost importance you explain this to your delegations."
He signed the text, "Bernie

When will you?

Fwiw
I think Bernie might take the stage tonight and tell the Bros to STFU. that it's time to push pull or get the fk out of the way.

They may finally meet the crabby old fart the rear of us have known for months.

That would be awsum.


Who f*cked up (5.00 / 2) (#35)
by jondee on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 05:12:33 PM EST

while you were sleeping, was the people who threw the middle class to the wolves while smiling in their faces at election time, put the poor and marginalized way back in line behind their investment banker friends, built prisons instead of substantial jobs and education programs, kowtowed to the imperialist neocon warmongers, and trivialized the environment into another election year after thought..

That's who f*cked up.

That profound (none / 0) (#37)
by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 05:22:22 PM EST

I thought we were talking about an electtion.


Well we've allowed to perfect environmental (none / 0) (#42)
by jondee on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 05:32:20 PM EST

conditions to arise for a Bernie to spring up. It had to happen.

Nature ain't always at our beck and call.


You know what? (none / 0) (#46)
by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 05:42:00 PM EST

I agree. I think it's true on both sides.

Here's the thing. People have tried to tell Bernie what he was doing, which began constructive, had become destructive. It's been destructive for a while. And it was not a secret. It was written about widely by Bernie supporters. No one should be, and few are, surprised by what is happening.

He could have eased these people into this like every serious candidate has in modern history.

But NOOOOO

He's going to the fuking convention. HES going to make sure every one has a "voice". He was going to make sure his wife got a great salary.

Bernie is going to reap what he sowed. And he deserves it. Sadly so are we all.


Donald's buddy Putin hacking (none / 0) (#60)
by jondee on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 06:21:40 PM EST

into computers sounds like good news in the long run for the Democrats..

This is Nixonian dirty tricks stuff.

The party that'll literally do anything to win is at it again. One more time for old time's sake..

And I think Bernie will chill his overwrought people better than you think he can.


I think he will try (none / 0) (#64)
by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 06:29:56 PM EST

I do. He doesn't want what is happening. Clearly.

About the Nixonian thing if you didn't, read the article I linked to (mistakenly, I meant to put it in the open) in this thread. Says some interesting things on this subject.

I am very interested in what Bernie says. I just want Nina Turner to stfu.


I don't think Bernie has any control over (none / 0) (#66)
by vml68 on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 06:36:44 PM EST

his delegates. They kept shouting "No TPP" while Congressman Elijah Cummings was speaking. Very progressive of them to heckle a Civil Rights hero.


How is this (none / 0) (#69)
by TrevorBolder on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 06:45:27 PM EST

Nixonian dirty tricks.

The dirty tricks were what the DNC did to Sanders.

Now, if you are intimating that the Russians coordinated with the Trump campaign, then yes, this would damage the rump campaign.

But I rather highly doubt that occurred.

Just the Russians making mischief, and Democrats should be thankful that the DNC has been called out for their dirty tricks, perhaps they won't try that again.


: That's ridiculous (none / 0) (#70)
by Yman on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 06:51:51 PM EST

Nixonian dirty tricks.
The dirty tricks were what the DNC did to Sanders.
No, they didn't.

Actually (none / 0) (#75)
by TrevorBolder on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 07:18:46 PM EST

A more likely reason...Just payback!!!
Putin doesn't get mad, he gets even!!!

When mass protests against Russian President Vladimir Putin erupted in Moscow in December 2011, Putin made clear who he thought was really behind them: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
With the protesters accusing Putin of having rigged recent elections, the Russian leader pointed an angry finger at Clinton, who had issued a statement sharply critical of the voting results. "She said they were dishonest and unfair," Putin fumed in public remarks, saying that Clinton gave "a signal" to demonstrators working "with the support of the U.S. State Department" to undermine his power. "We need to safeguard ourselves from this interference in our internal affairs," Putin declared.

http://tinyurl.com/zkqrwxo


You know who did more (none / 0) (#40)
by MKS on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 05:28:36 PM EST

to stop the Reagan Revolution and roll back the Reagan style economics? Bill Clinton.

In a very conservative environment, he passed the biggest tax increase on the wealthy, ever, I think. That did more to roll back the Reagan tax cuts for the wealthy than anything since.

Does Bill get any credit for that? Nope. Nada. Zilch. Nothing. He is a corporatist toady.

Too many supporters of Marat and not enough of Danton.

Roll back? (none / 0) (#93)
by kdog on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 07:48:02 PM EST

He took the deregulation ball and ran with it baby!

But yes, he did charge a higher vig for the services rendered...I'll give him that.


: In a sea of GOP dominance, (none / 0) (#97)
by MKS on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 07:59:07 PM EST

Bill did great work. Consider the degree of difficulty.

Lucy and her football . . . (none / 0) (#76)
by JanaM on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 07:18:55 PM EST

I hope you're right but I have serious doubts he will.


Hope (5.00 / 1) (#23)
by ragebot on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 04:39:38 PM EST

DWS is not reelected. But probably not for the reasons you might expect. Here is one of the more polite links to how the sugar barons bought and paid for her. There are multiple other sources that are far less flattering to her votes to support big sugar.

Most folks in Florida are now aware, or getting aware, of how almost every pol not just in Florida but nation wide has gone along with price supports and quotas on US grown sugar that raises prices consumers pay for sugar. In return those pols have benefited from huge donations from the sugar barons who are destroying the Everglades.

Maybe Hillary could back track on her support of the sugar barons the way she back tracked on support for NAFTA and TPP.

Why did she support payday lenders? (none / 0) (#32)
by midcenturymod on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 05:04:39 PM EST

: They have money Silly... (none / 0) (#81)
by kdog on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 07:23:33 PM EST

their marks aka borrowers, do not. Why else would DWS support payday lenders? They're certainly not inherently likeable!
Now I gotta listen to the party who deported over 2.5 million souls since 2008 tell me how wonderful they are for immigrants because...Trump.
No Mames Guey.

Russian hacking plot (5.00 / 1) (#36)
by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 05:20:47 PM EST

Thickens and widens

Exclusive: Suspected Russian hack of DNC widens -- includes personal email of staffer researching Manafort

Two of my earlier posts (none / 0) (#44)
by ragebot on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 05:38:51 PM EST

may be of interest. One was about the VICE channel show Cyberwarefare episode titled "who is anonymous" which mentioned foreign governments had infiltrated anonymous. When asked which foreign governments the anonymous members answered all of them.

The second post was a blurb from the comment on the NYT's story about Russian involvement in the hack. Here is the blurb

APTs 28 and 29? As in there's 27 more advanced persistent threats that still probably have access to the DNC network? They've got more problems than just the Russians if that's the case.

What's the over/under that the Russians were not the only ones who hacked the DNC, and were they really hacked by 30 different hackers including two from Russia.

Bottom line is there are a lot of hackers out there, not just the Russians. And my take is the most effective hacking efforts originate in China.


this is not an open thread (none / 0) (#62)
by Jeralyn on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 06:24:40 PM EST

It's about the convention. Please stay on topic


: Sorry (none / 0) (#65)
by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 06:32:00 PM EST

I meant to put that link in the open.

Pffft (5.00 / 3) (#55)
by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 05:57:52 PM EST

Chris Hayes quoting a Sanders supporter

"It's like he's been feeding us Mountain Dew for the whole election and now he wants us to go to bed"

Yep

Exactly

The viewing choices are dismal (5.00 / 1) (#67)
by Jeralyn on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 06:41:14 PM EST

CNN has the convention in the lower left of the screen with no sound while commercial after commercial fill the rest of the screen.

On MSNBC they had the Gov of CT muted in the corner and some pundit rattling off about something in the main part of the screen. Then the extremely nerdy looking spectacled host said "Let's listen in to the Gov of Ct for 20 seconds or so"--

C-span is better but Comcast doesn't carry it in HD here.

DNC has a live feed (none / 0) (#87)
by ding7777 on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 07:37:21 PM EST

I tried this (none / 0) (#91)
by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 07:46:57 PM EST

And it keeps freezing and crashing. On both my iPad and desktop.

Is it working for you?


: yes (none / 0) (#96)
by ding7777 on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 07:52:07 PM EST

but I switched to Balloon Juice front page which has the you tube version

PBS has (none / 0) (#109)
by BackFromOhio on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 08:29:46 PM EST

the whole thing with occasional comments by Gwen Ifel (sp?)

According to PBS, when Sarah Silverman put down Bernie do or die supporters, they erupted with chants of his name. On TV, they could not be heard! One way to limit the damage....


I am going to Armando's Twitter (5.00 / 1) (#94)
by MKS on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 07:50:54 PM EST

feed....Good info there.

He got a ticket into the place.

Sen Al Franken bringing it (5.00 / 2) (#98)
by ruffian on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 07:59:24 PM EST

He's great. Just the right touch.

: Some Excerpts (none / 0) (#101)
by Molly Bloom on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 08:05:28 PM EST

"I got my degree in right wing megalomania from Trump U
had to empty my 401k and take out a reverse mortgage..."
"The future is about passion and working hard this week is passion, Come Friday you work hard.... many of you have families and jobs... ignore them ... now knock on those doors and tell them Al Franken sent you"

Watching this crowd compared to the GOP (5.00 / 1) (#99)
by ruffian on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 08:02:29 PM EST

ghouls last week - restoring faith in human nature.

I hope they televise Paul Simons performance.... (5.00 / 1) (#103)
by kdog on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 08:13:08 PM EST

That's one clear difference between the pageants....America's and the World's great musicians tell Republicans to stop playing their stuff, they bring their guitars to the Democratic pageant.

He never plays... (5.00 / 1) (#110)
by kdog on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 08:30:13 PM EST

Bridge without Art...Paul must love him some Hillary.


: No encore? (none / 0) (#115)
by kdog on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 08:35:26 PM EST

You really do suck Debbie! ;)

: Paul was a Bernie supporter, as was Sarah (none / 0) (#119)
by caseyOR on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 08:43:12 PM EST

Silverman. Now they are both supporting Hillary.

God bless (5.00 / 2) (#104)
by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 08:22:05 PM EST

Sara Silverman

I don't think she will be (none / 0) (#105)
by kdog on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 08:23:43 PM EST

getting an ambassadorship...lol.


: She tried valiantly with the tough love (none / 0) (#107)
by ruffian on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 08:25:47 PM EST

Sarah Silverman tells Bernie or Busters (5.00 / 1) (#106)
by ruffian on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 08:23:49 PM EST

They are being ridiculous, after her speech, as a Bernie supporter urging unity is booed by some.

She and Franken ad libbing during wait for Paul Simon. Great stuff. We are like a bridge over troubled water.

That was awsum (5.00 / 1) (#108)
by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 08:26:04 PM EST

I hope Bernie says the same thing.


: With Al standing there grinning. Priceless. (none / 0) (#112)
by ruffian on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 08:32:40 PM EST

Sarah killed it with that line (none / 0) (#143)
by jondee on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 09:41:55 PM EST

about the perennially three year old Donald yelling at people from his gold-encrusted sandbox.


I like Paul Simon but maybe its time to retire. (5.00 / 2) (#111)
by desertswine on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 08:31:30 PM EST

Yeah (5.00 / 1) (#114)
by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 08:34:17 PM EST

That was embarrassing. But you know what, the new album is good.
I think that was a bad choice of a song. Difficult. The voice was originally mostly Art.


That's Art's song for sure.. (none / 0) (#118)
by kdog on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 08:42:24 PM EST

I'd bet it was requested.

He shoulda went with Wristband off the new record. Clever tune, and poignant for our new Gilded Age.

Or 50 Ways To Leave Your Lover...for the Bernie or Busters;)


: I am watching PBS. Gwen Ifill (none / 0) (#120)
by caseyOR on Mon Jul 25, 2016 at 08:44:37 PM EST

said she talked to Paul yesterday, I think, and he told her ho chose the