Mayweather Beats Pacquiao: Unanimous Decision

All three judges scored Floyd Mayweather the victor over Manny Pacquaio. Scores: 118-110, 116-112, 116-112.

After the fight:

Was anyone rooting for Mayweather?

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    It's rather hard for me to claim that ... (none / 0) (#1)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun May 03, 2015 at 01:12:45 AM EST
    ... I was rooting for one or the other of these men, given that I was so wrapped up in the classic Game 7 NBA playoff showdown between the Spurs and Clippers, I had forgotten completely about their fight tonight. I hope you enjoyed it as much as I did that basketball game.


    I didn't watch it (none / 0) (#2)
    by Jeralyn on Sun May 03, 2015 at 02:25:55 AM EST
    I just thought I'd mention it since it's all over the news.

    Houston... (none / 0) (#13)
    by ScottW714 on Mon May 04, 2015 at 08:55:29 AM EST
    ...hates the Spurs with a passion, but unlike you I was so wrapped up in the lame fight that I didn't realize the Spurs has lost until Sunday and saw that the Rockets will be playing the Clippers tomorrow(tonight).

    I would not be exaggerating when I say that Houston playing the Spurs and losing to them was so engrained that we forgot about the actual game.

    The fight was a lame duck IMO.

    There was a guy at the party I was at who was taking bets on Mayweather, so yes to Jeralyn in that he was cheering for Floyd, and would not shut about his mad skills after.  Which is fine has they actually fought hard.

    The fight itself was a joke.  To me it seemed obvious that neither came to actually fight, and if I had to guess, a rematch is already in the mix in that neither fighter is going to need much time to recover from Saturday.

    I believe the payout was 60/40 with the purse being around $200M.  But today I have read that as much as $300M will be split 60/40.


    180/120. Good work, if you can get it. (none / 0) (#32)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Mon May 04, 2015 at 10:04:06 PM EST
    all of his creditors. (none / 0) (#3)
    by cpinva on Sun May 03, 2015 at 05:22:05 AM EST
    "Was anyone rooting for Mayweather?"

    aside from them, from everything I've seen/read/heard, maybe his family, but probably no one else.

    In my opinion, (none / 0) (#4)
    by lentinel on Sun May 03, 2015 at 06:50:01 AM EST
    I have to agree with Pacquiao's comment about Mayweather's performance:

    "He didn't do nothin'".

    Why is professional boxing (none / 0) (#5)
    by Peter G on Sun May 03, 2015 at 12:48:23 PM EST
    still not outlawed?

    Did you see the price of the tickets? (5.00 / 3) (#9)
    by Anne on Sun May 03, 2015 at 09:14:01 PM EST
    I mean, isn't it always about the money?

    On the most basic level, though, I don't even know why it's a sport.

    And both of these fighters, from what I've been reading, don't seem to confine their aggression to the ring.  How much of that is going on in the background of "professional boxing?"

    But a lot of people are making a lot of money.



    The same could be said about (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by Zorba on Mon May 04, 2015 at 08:39:34 AM EST
    (American) football.  Lots of people making lots of money, and those players also don't always leave their aggression in the stadium.
    And both boxing and football lead to many of the participants suffering permanent brain damage.
    (But then, so does soccer, and I've never understood why they don't ban "heading" the ball.)

    I guess the difference I see (none / 0) (#15)
    by Anne on Mon May 04, 2015 at 09:05:20 AM EST
    between boxing and football, say, is that the point of football is to score more points than your opponent, while the point of boxing is to knock your opponent out.

    I don't really know that much - really anything - about boxing, but I guess there are points awarded in some fashion so as to determine which boxer won each round - is that right?  So, I guess in a roundabout way, boxing just cuts out the other 21 players on each team, each boxer plays both offense and defense, and either through an actual knockout or rounds won, one of them is declared the winner.  

    As I talk through this, maybe boxing just makes no pretense about what it is: one-on-one aggression; football hides somewhat behind the whole team thing.

    And you're right - there is a lot of aggression and violence off the field in football, too.  

    And lord knows there's money, lol.


    Yes, there is scoring in boxing (none / 0) (#17)
    by Zorba on Mon May 04, 2015 at 09:16:24 AM EST
    You can win a boxing match without a knockout, or even a knockdown.
    And that's about all I know about boxing.  I've never really understood their scoring system.  
    The little I do know about boxing is only because, when I was a kid, my great-grandmother used to watch it.  That, and "pro" wrestling (which is really a theatrical performance).
    Go figure an old Greek lady watching these.  Maybe because she spoke very little English, and you could understand these without knowing a word of the language.

    Why??? (none / 0) (#6)
    by Uncle Chip on Sun May 03, 2015 at 03:46:25 PM EST
    Because it's still a pathway out of the ghetto for a lot of poor kids.

    And for many it's the only pathway.

    Take it away and you take away their hope for a better life.

    Just ask Manny.


    Somehow I think that is not really (5.00 / 4) (#7)
    by Peter G on Sun May 03, 2015 at 09:00:24 PM EST
    the reason.

    Plus (5.00 / 2) (#22)
    by jondee on Mon May 04, 2015 at 11:26:12 AM EST
    the bored rich people at ringside like to watch the poor, invariably minority, kids act out our "savage nature" for their entertainment..

    And that ingrained sports-show biz-as-the-only-way-out meme is just another way to perpetuate despair among young men in the ghetto..


    First They Need to Deal With MMA... (none / 0) (#14)
    by ScottW714 on Mon May 04, 2015 at 08:56:37 AM EST
    ...which is far more barbaric, just doesn't last as long.

    Seriously... (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by kdog on Mon May 04, 2015 at 09:51:34 AM EST
    though I wouldn't support banning either.  If ya don't like it, don't watch it or participate in it.  Let freedom ring.  If it's banned, it goes underground and you lose any regulation and protection for the participants.  

    MMA is too brutal for me, though I can appreciate the skill and athleticism of MMA fighters.  I do enjoy pugilism, the sweet science...as a fan and a participant for fun and exercise.  I tell ya, you won't find a better workout...I can play full court basketball all day long, but after three rounds of sparring my legs are useless jelly. Floating like a butterfly takes serious calf muscles!

    Though maybe pro boxing should be disbanded for how they've ruined pro boxing, and rebuilt anew with one governing body, and a boxers union so fighters get pensions and lifetime medical care.


    Depends For Me... (none / 0) (#20)
    by ScottW714 on Mon May 04, 2015 at 10:34:17 AM EST
    ...they are both too violent, but welter and feather weight are far less violent than heavy weight.

    But everyone I know likes both so invariably I end up watching some of it.

    Everyone involved is a willing adult participant.  To me not liking it is not a valid reason to make it illegal.


    "willing".. (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by jondee on Mon May 04, 2015 at 11:30:54 AM EST
    those "willing" and "freedom" words are often glosses on the fact that people don't want to think about the lives of people with few perceived options..

    Fighters do it willingly..hookers do it willingly..blah blah blah


    I am for Legalizing Prostituion (none / 0) (#29)
    by ScottW714 on Mon May 04, 2015 at 04:07:31 PM EST
    I get you point, but like the NFL, these guys are knowing causing harm to their bodies, but they doing it because they want to.

    How is it different than a coal miner or steel worker, sometime people don't have much of a choice, but they still have a choice.  No one is forcing anyone.  

    If I were to say I would get in the ring with Tyson for $100M would you want a law denying me the right to earn that kind of paycheck.  I would never get in the ring with Tyson, even now, but I sure as hell don't want a law saying I can't earn a zillion dollars(to me) for taking one blow that might serious F up my life.

    And prostitution, really, comparing that yo someone who make 9 figures for one nights work...

    I wouldn't lose any sleep if you made boxing and MMA illegal, but don't ask me to get on board with it.  Who am I do decide what someone wants to do for a living, even if it's dangerous, but doesn't effect me in any way.


    I used to be a big time (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by jondee on Tue May 05, 2015 at 11:47:53 AM EST
    fan until I saw so many of those ex-fighters in their fifties who had to wear diapers and couldn't remember the names of close family members.

    On the other hand, there were the Carmen Basilios and Jake LaMottas with seeming four inch skulls; which doesn't mean they didn't do a lot of damage to others..

    As far as having a say over what some people do for a living, I'm fine with being a damn commie with the people who got Lake Ontario to the point where it's not safe to eat the fish..or with the Wall St shysters who tanked the economy..

    No man is an island.


    It's the old nanny state thing... (none / 0) (#21)
    by kdog on Mon May 04, 2015 at 10:49:24 AM EST
    somebody else knows better than you what's good for you.

    Granted, "free will" gets a little tricky when poverty is involved.  How much "free will" do you really have when ya gotta eat and got no money?  But the same could be said for coal mining or prostitution or any number of jobs.  It may not be a great deal but at least it's an option to those with few options.  


    Some guys just like a little fight :) (none / 0) (#41)
    by Militarytracy on Wed May 06, 2015 at 10:15:42 PM EST
    My Uncle boxed.  I don't pretend to understand the desire let alone the need. But it made him happy, and the guys he fought, it made them happy too..  Whatever :) I don't care for the sport, it isn't my happiness, but it is happiness for others.  What's a girl to do?  And Fight Club is one of my favorite movies, I guess the cave girl in me understands that as Queen Elizabeth said, "Dogs must have blood :)."

    Quite a few rooting for Mayweather (none / 0) (#8)
    by CoralGables on Sun May 03, 2015 at 09:09:43 PM EST
    He was the betting favorite to win.

    Probably not (none / 0) (#10)
    by jbindc on Mon May 04, 2015 at 04:53:01 AM EST
    the women he beat up.

    If people cared what when on outside the arena (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by CoralGables on Mon May 04, 2015 at 07:09:00 AM EST
    no one would bet on or watch football.

    As a person Mayweather may be terrible, but as a boxer he's one of the best ever. The reason they expect he'll take home 180 million from the fight, after all revenues are in, is because people want to watch him fight.

    Should he fight and win in September he says he'll retire. Don't bet on it. At 49-0 he will have matched Rocky Marciano and one fight to get him to 50-0 would likely give him once again the biggest payday in boxing history. He was the world's highest paid athlete last year, will be this year, and could be again next year.


    It's Very Odd to Me... (none / 0) (#16)
    by ScottW714 on Mon May 04, 2015 at 09:08:14 AM EST
    ... how professional boxing seems to be outside the general rules of other professional sports.

    It doesn't make sense to tar and feather a first time offender, Rice, and completely ignore a serial domestic violence offender, Mayweather.

    One was basically fired from his job, and the other made over $100M the other night.  That makes absolutely no sense IMO.


    Actually it does (none / 0) (#19)
    by CoralGables on Mon May 04, 2015 at 10:03:56 AM EST
    Rice is an employee. Mayweather is his own corporation.

    And for the record, hardly tarred and feathered. Rice never went to jail, Mayweather did.


    Rice Was Tarred and Feathered in the Press... (none / 0) (#30)
    by ScottW714 on Mon May 04, 2015 at 04:18:49 PM EST
    ...and suspended from the league for a bit, Mayweather was not.  Rice did have a boss who essentially fired him, but both are athletes within a league(s).  Rice lost his ability to earn an income because of the league, Mayweather did not.

    Because (none / 0) (#25)
    by jbindc on Mon May 04, 2015 at 12:53:22 PM EST
    Mayweather doesn't have to report to an oversight body, like the NFL.

    That, and I suspect, because, this fight aside, most people don't watch, nor care about boxing.


    I would agree in part (none / 0) (#26)
    by CoralGables on Mon May 04, 2015 at 01:12:33 PM EST
    but disagree with your last statement.

    Boxers Wladimir Klitschko. Floyd Mayweather, and Manny Pacquiao all made more money in 2014 than Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers. Obviously there are many people that watch boxing. Do most watch boxing? No, but most also don't watch football.


    I dunno (none / 0) (#27)
    by jbindc on Mon May 04, 2015 at 02:10:11 PM EST
    NBC brought boxing back to TV - it gets a couple million people every week to watch.

    Over 110 million watch NFL football every week.


    I don't know, (none / 0) (#24)
    by NYShooter on Mon May 04, 2015 at 12:30:49 PM EST
    If you put two dogs in a ring and tell them to go fight, you go to prison for quite a  while.

    Two humans? We make ridiculous excuses.

    Seriously, if boxing & MMA is allowed, why not dueling?

    All sports have been moving towards more safety lately; I think boxing is just a little behind in its evolution. It might take a tragic event to bring safety up to a priority, maybe a death to a real popular fighter like a Sugar Ray Leonard, or Muhammad Ali.

    Well, for starters, (none / 0) (#28)
    by nycstray on Mon May 04, 2015 at 02:46:19 PM EST
    you breed and condition 2 dogs to fight in a ring. You don't tell them to. Also, the dogs don't really have a choice in the matter and they are fighting towards death. I kinda think if you put 2 children in the ring to fight towards death, you would end up in jail. Or an unwilling adult, would be jail time also. Not sure about 2 adults willing to fight until one's dead . . .

    I cannot help but think (5.00 / 3) (#31)
    by Zorba on Mon May 04, 2015 at 04:58:05 PM EST
    That in a century (or two, or three, or more), our descendants will look back upon this era of sports, and the injuries suffered by the players, much the way we look back on the Roman Coliseum and the gladiatorial contests back then.
    It's not just boxing, or football, or soccer.  Add ice hockey.
    And, while we're at it, you can look at elite cheerleading (many girls suffer horrendous injuries), and gymnastics.  (Besides the obvious traumatic injuries, eating disorders are not unknown among gymnasts; you can also add to that, figure skaters, synchronized swimmers, and dancers.)

    In 1980, (none / 0) (#33)
    by desertswine on Mon May 04, 2015 at 10:23:14 PM EST
    I watched (on tv) Lupe Pintor kill Johnny Owen in a championship match. It was the last boxing match that I ever watched. It was brutal. The Matchstick Man went down like he had been shot. He never regained consciousness and died a few days later.

    Las Vegas -- we have a problem (none / 0) (#34)
    by Uncle Chip on Tue May 05, 2015 at 10:14:23 AM EST
    Manny Pacquiao had an undisclosed shoulder injury

    The shoulder injury Pacquiao suffered prior to his fight with Floyd Mayweather was much more serious than it initially sounded, and now it turns out that Pacquiao will need surgery to repair a torn rotator cuff.

    Torn Rotator Cuff -- and that's no minor injury, especially for a boxer.

    Oh My --

    Why is that a problem for Vegas (none / 0) (#35)
    by CoralGables on Tue May 05, 2015 at 10:31:00 AM EST
    It was a problem for Pacquiao. If he says it's a problem and has it checked he loses his payday, or he takes the other route and keeps quiet mentioning no injuries on the questionnaire at the pre-fight weigh-in so he can get paid.

    He's not the first athlete to hide an injury.


    It's a problem (none / 0) (#36)
    by Uncle Chip on Tue May 05, 2015 at 11:23:13 AM EST
    for both.

    We = plural


    Sounds like maybe Floyd and Manny (5.00 / 1) (#38)
    by jondee on Tue May 05, 2015 at 11:52:26 AM EST
    did the sensible thing and took it easy with each other and let those thirsty for blood piss and moan because they didn't beat each other's brains out for their entertainment.

    Good for them, I say.


    Look for a rematch (5.00 / 1) (#39)
    by CoralGables on Tue May 05, 2015 at 01:04:07 PM EST
    and Mayweather's attempt at 50-0 sometime next year.

    Maybe they should (none / 0) (#40)
    by jondee on Wed May 06, 2015 at 05:41:58 PM EST
    both face off on Dancing With The Stars. Like real men.