March Madness Day 2

My ATS picks for Day 2 (outright winners in BOLD):

Duke -22 over Robert Morris, Providence -3 over Dayton, Iowa -2 over Davidson, Cal Irvine +8 over Louisville, Maryland -4 over Valparaiso, Wyoming +6 over Northern Iowa, North Dakota State +20 over Gonzaga, Belmont +17 over Virginia, Georgia +6 over Michigan State, Oklahoma -13 over Albany NY, Wichita State -5 over Indiana, Wisconsin -20 over Coastal Carolina, West Virginia -4 over Buffalo, San Diego State -4 over St John's, Oregon -2 over Oklahoma State, Kansas -10 over New Mexico State.

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    I really need to learn how to like basketball (none / 0) (#1)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Mar 20, 2015 at 10:18:07 AM EST

    I like basketball, (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by Zorba on Fri Mar 20, 2015 at 11:27:50 AM EST
    but I mainly like watching the players playing. I'm not interested in brackets, or even who wins, but the skill and athleticism of the players does interest me.
    Maybe because I played basketball in high school, although the girls game back then was really different than it is now.
    I was a guard.  Mainly because I wasn't great at shooting baskets, but I wasn't at all shy about getting in someone's face and blocking shots.   ;-)

    I really only liked sports where you arent (none / 0) (#3)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Mar 20, 2015 at 12:52:00 PM EST
    Touched all the time.  Some of the NLP things that I have learned indicate that very visual people can't think clearly being touched during certain tasks because of how their brains are wired and it will really show up in the sports they choose.  I loved volleyball cuz nobody touched me, soccer..not a lot of touching, track.  Basketball ugh....can't stand it

    The touching didn't bother me (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by Zorba on Fri Mar 20, 2015 at 02:34:07 PM EST
    I played basketball and softball in high school.  Softball isn't really much of a "touching" sport, but I was a catcher, and I wasn't reluctant to, shall I say, engage with the runners trying to run to home plate, so there were more than a few collisions.
    That may have been why our coach had me play catcher.  Some of the other girls were not so willing to do that.   ;-)

    No doubt Zorba in my mind (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Mar 20, 2015 at 02:59:08 PM EST
    that's why (5.00 / 2) (#11)
    by CST on Fri Mar 20, 2015 at 03:01:48 PM EST
    I was a goalie sometimes too.  

    You'd think it'd be less physical, and in a way for most of the game it is.  But in the moments that count you have to be willing to put your whole body in the line of fire.

    I tried playing goalie as an adult once.  Made one diving save all game.  After I hit the ground I thought to myself "ok, I can still do it, and I'm never doing it again".


    I have noted over the years now (none / 0) (#12)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Mar 20, 2015 at 04:02:25 PM EST
    That kinesthetic people can fill a space up with themselves.  They are very keen on their spatial relationship to their surroundings.  My spouse can walk around a new vehicle and get in, drive it, and know within a couple of inches immediately exactly what space he is responsible for. I will die with tennis balls hanging from fishing line.  He possesses for me something that is an uncanny ability.

    But he lives his life out of piles.  He will never know what cabinet the baking soda is in or where an aspirin is stored. If he buys one more bottle of Louisiana hot sauce because he doesn't know where the other three are kept, it might be his last.

    If your compressor jams though and then breaks apart sending shrapnel everywhere, and the cockpit becomes filled with smoke and you can't see your gauges and read where the ground is, and then you lose 80% of your hydraulics....he's your man.


    that's wierd (none / 0) (#13)
    by CST on Fri Mar 20, 2015 at 04:21:12 PM EST
    I've never even heard of the idea of a "kinesthetic person" vs not.  But you just described me to a T.

    Great parallel parker, can never find anything in my kitchen, handle crisis situations well.


    The worst thing I can do to my husband (none / 0) (#14)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Mar 20, 2015 at 04:33:54 PM EST
    Is put his "stuff" away. So he has work spaces that are his that I stay out of.  He works to keep common house spaces more organized for me. And what is messy to someone who is visually wired is clean to someone who is more kinestheticly organized.  If there is vomit on it, that's messy to my husband, if it isn't put away that's messy to me.

    That's funny, because (none / 0) (#15)
    by Zorba on Fri Mar 20, 2015 at 04:34:50 PM EST
    I am not only a great parallel parker, and I handle major crises well, I do know where everything in my kitchen is, not to mention my house.  In fact, when Mr. Zorba can't find something, even something that he has stashed somewhere, I'm the one who can find it.  It's not that it's all put away in a rational manner, but I know where stuff is.
    On the other hand, with things that aren't a major crisis, I tend to get upset and get all wired up about it.
    This drives Mr. Zorba crazy, but he does admit that when push comes to shove and it's really important, I do calm down and handle things in a very calm and rational manner.
    Don't ask me why this is.

    You are very individual (none / 0) (#16)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Mar 20, 2015 at 04:44:10 PM EST
    The other thing I notice about kinesthetic people, they really taste food.  I like a good meal as much as the next guy, but IMO kinesthetic people understand the meaning and concept and production of savory.  I can "build" a cake.  My husband can smoke salmon 10 different ways.

    I tried smoking salmon once. (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Mar 20, 2015 at 07:07:30 PM EST
    But the fish scales kept clogging my bong.

    Honestly, me and my pot-smoking (none / 0) (#24)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Sat Mar 21, 2015 at 12:37:14 AM EST
    buddies made more cleverer pot jokes when we were in middle school. Seriously.

    Do you think these types of jokes make you part of some "brotherhood" or something?


    And, now, I'm wondering if (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by christinep on Sat Mar 21, 2015 at 11:33:22 AM EST
    my husband has a lot of the K quality as well as his very obvious (V)isual qualities.  As for myself, whether from the NLP evals awhile back or from my obvious inability to visualize objects in spaces as well as my inability to appreciate spatial dimensions, it doesn't take much to recognize myself as having lesser K and V components.  I may love to see and recall vividly in my mind's-eye glorious sunrises & sunsets, fantastic landscapes, and wondrous works of art (and words) ... but, I have been known to "unsee" complete new buildings let alone inches of parking space.  Christinep is a prototype Audial...talk to think, to relate, and even to feel ... the sounds of voices often say so much more to the A than notes & email; and, the music takes on a life of its own.

    NLP has its unique categories of differences; yet, the fun part is the overlap. Just crossed my mind--and, here is political personality divination in a way--that our President may have a combo/mix of A, V, and K.  The reason for adding the K to a personality often described as cool and reserved, etc. is his demonstrated love for all things Basketball from playing to brackets.


    How we all map things (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Mar 21, 2015 at 11:57:54 AM EST
    Differing conceptualizations, differing communication, how we prioritize, it fascinates me.  I can't stop studying it. And at the same time it infuriates me because the Luntzes of the world use it all in promoting harm.

    I am visually led.  But from what I can tell I'm apt to miss visual details that someone not visual may not because I'm taking in so much visual information.  Sort of like the NSA. My husband is not visually led.  Oddly, he has an expertise in visually identifying military elements.  He started with studying how we see and went from there.  He uses vision as a tool, not a reality.  He preaches and teaches slowing down making visual based decisions in combat where mistakes are often forever.  I'm certain being married to me has had no bearing on his course of study :)


    Oh, my dear, (none / 0) (#17)
    by Zorba on Fri Mar 20, 2015 at 04:55:41 PM EST
    I do not know what you would call me, but I can certainly "taste" food.  I can virtually always taste a new dish at a restaurant, for instance, and have a really good idea of what herbs and spices and other stuff went into it, and can recreate it pretty well at home.
    But that may mainly be because I have been cooking for over 50 years, and my parents were great cooks, especially my dad, who was a professional chef for a lot of years.  And I have had a lot of experience cooking at food festivals and such.
    I can "taste" something in my mind, and pretty much know how it will turn it if I make it.

    An artist who (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by MO Blue on Fri Mar 20, 2015 at 04:58:40 PM EST
    specializes in food.

    And my husband can do that (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Mar 20, 2015 at 05:01:12 PM EST
    I can't.  I will never be able to either.  I think you are born with it, or you aren't.  I'm great with presentation though. I could be a cupcake shop :)  Just not THE ONE.

    You can (5.00 / 1) (#20)
    by Zorba on Fri Mar 20, 2015 at 05:48:33 PM EST
    plate and present the food if I ever open up a restaurant, and run the publicity for it.
    I'm not as interested in that, mainly I'm interested in how it tastes.   ;-)

    How long have you two been married? (none / 0) (#23)
    by oculus on Fri Mar 20, 2015 at 09:15:09 PM EST
    we remember soccer (none / 0) (#4)
    by CST on Fri Mar 20, 2015 at 01:27:36 PM EST
    very differently

    There is a lot of touching/grabbing/pushing/tackling in soccer.  Especially if you play indoor or on a short field (6 on 6)

    Then again most of the girls I played soccer with/against were also hockey players so...


    No ice hockey from my neck of the woods (none / 0) (#5)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Mar 20, 2015 at 01:52:54 PM EST
    But we had floor hockey.  Not even close, but  I spent most of my time in the penalty box wearing a lopsided grin.  And the phys ed teacher was usually shocked at my behavior. I loved floor hockey. It was where I chose to work out certain social issues, not score goals.  Sorry you experienced soccer so differently.  My soccer team was all about strategy and surgical and a constant setting up of the shot.  You're either good enough to be surgical, or you aren't :)

    Haha I'm not (none / 0) (#6)
    by CST on Fri Mar 20, 2015 at 02:14:04 PM EST
    It was where we worked out our "issues" as well :)

    And there was a lot of focus on strategy - one of the incentives to develop a good quick passing game was because if you held on to the ball too long you'd get roughed up.

    Personally I don't like to think of physical play as necessarily dirty play.  But then I was bigger/taller than a lot of girls, so standing my ground and maybe shifting my weight around was usually enough to send a little one flying.


    I played rugby. (none / 0) (#7)
    by caseyOR on Fri Mar 20, 2015 at 02:17:34 PM EST
    Talk about a place to work out your issues. :-)  Although it can get rough on the rugby pitch, it is a very strategic game. At least, it is if you are on a team that wants to be successful.

    I do so miss playing.


    You are way too kinesthetic for me (none / 0) (#9)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Mar 20, 2015 at 02:36:54 PM EST
    And you are the pool most serious athletes come from.  I was such an ass kisser, probably still am if I took any instruction.  So hockey and me always puzzled the instructor.  What happened to their ass kisser?  So many people are touching me though, I have no comprehension and cannot comprehend where my team members are.  And if you would just stop touching me I could think of a strategy. So I have to settle for lesser goals, much lower goals :)

    In soccer though, the better my skills the fewer reasons and opportunities for my opponent to touch me.  So that's my incentive.  When I think about my team...who are the most kinesthetic? Probably the defenders.   The goalie always is, and crappy defenders aren't.

    Probably why strikers and company are really socially emotionally shallow as a puddle, prima donnas to the core.  Once again I fall in love with soccer.  Everyone is ON THE FIELD, the world is united, the world is one....sigh


    Ducks win! Ducks win! (none / 0) (#22)
    by caseyOR on Fri Mar 20, 2015 at 08:12:41 PM EST
    Final score 79-73.

    Ok so the FPD has been taken to task, (none / 0) (#25)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Sat Mar 21, 2015 at 12:57:19 AM EST
    in many way deservedly, regarding fines and arrest warrants, etc.

    Accusations that the cycle was oppressive - get unfairly busted by the po po for some traffic infraction or jaywalking or something, then for some perfectly reasonable reason, like your license got revoked, you can't get to your probation officer meetings, etc., therefor a warrant is issued for your arrest, etc., etc., etc.

    But, for example, the numbnut who admitted to firing the gun that shot the two officers last week, was on probation after pleading guilty to using a stolen credit card. Then, he didn't attend his prob officer meetings, so a warrant was issued for his arrest. Then he committed the firearm crime while driving a car, which makes you wonder (among other things) why he didn't use the dam car to get to his prob meetings.

    Sure, I agree that some people got caught up in an unfair catch 22 system, but I'm not at all ready to paint the entire system with the same broad brush...