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Clinton-Castro Appearance in San Antonio

By Jeralyn, Section Elections 2016
Posted on Thu Oct 15, 2015 at 10:18:37 PM EST
Tags: Hillary Clinton, Julian Castro (all tags)
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Photo by Jerry Lara /San Antonio Express-News

Housing Secretary Julian Castro endorsed Hillary Clinton today. They spoke at joint rally in San Antonio to enthusiastic crowds.

Hillary and Castro have been building ties for a while now. He's often been mentioned as a potential VP choice for her. At the 2012 Democratic Convention, he spoke the same night as Michelle Obama -- I thought: "Michelle Obama was good but hands down, the star of the night was Julian Castro.

Definitely a winning combination in my book.

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    I'm on board (5.00 / 5) (#17)
    by CST on Fri Oct 16, 2015 at 10:42:38 AM EST
    We already elected a Hussein, there's something poetic about following that up with a Castro.

    I love this country.

    Colbert: (none / 0) (#66)
    by ruffian on Sat Oct 17, 2015 at 03:36:33 PM EST
    '"Somehow a Castro in the White House still sounds less socialist than Bernie Sanders"

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    Speaking of which: (5.00 / 1) (#68)
    by Nemi on Sun Oct 18, 2015 at 07:57:07 AM EST
    I never got why Bernie Sanders insists on calling himself a democratic socialist and not a socialist democrat.

    Born and raised in a Socialdemocratic country, enjoying all the benefits and feeling secure thanks to the social safety net, I certainly wouldn't want to live in a democratic socialist community. Seems to me the majority of 'born and raised' Americans feel the same?

    Actually, for what it's worth - but as Denmark was mentioned in the debate - the former socialdemocratic PM in Denmark specifically denounced being, or being called, a socialist.

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    Larry David as Bernie Sanders (none / 0) (#69)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Oct 18, 2015 at 08:12:09 AM EST
    had to happen

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    Keeping-America-Safe & Politics (5.00 / 1) (#46)
    by christinep on Fri Oct 16, 2015 at 03:20:06 PM EST
    'Just saw a brief cut on Politicalwire's staple of daily quotes by Donald Trump.  The remarks by Trump--which I didn't read in context by attempting to find the full interview in Bloomberg Press--are surprising and potentially provocative in his party considering the heating-up Presidential nomination race in the Repub party. In brief, Trump observed that (paraphrasing from memory) the "Towers came down on his watch ... when he was President" as he referred to former President George W. Bush. He reiterated that was all he was saying.

    Woooo.  What to say.  We all know that ... we all know that some matters with many, many deaths seem to get a pass from the press and DC when it comes to extensive investigations ... whereas other matters (sad & serious, but not comparable in scope) take on an unending investigative hunt.  Yes, my bias is showing; yes, I think, there is justification for my response (see, e.g., Benghazi hearings ongoing.)

    And, Trump said it ... Trump, the one whose utterances are reported widely.  

    I think the most disturbing (5.00 / 1) (#47)
    by CST on Fri Oct 16, 2015 at 03:22:51 PM EST
    Thing to come out of the GOP primary is the realization that Trump is in some ways (everything but immigration?) the least bad of the bunch.

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    Did he just throw a wedge in his own party? (none / 0) (#55)
    by christinep on Fri Oct 16, 2015 at 04:12:27 PM EST
    With something like malice aforethought in the side-pocket aimed at Jeb! Interesting elbows and shoves.

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    Jeb responded in a way (5.00 / 1) (#56)
    by CoralGables on Fri Oct 16, 2015 at 04:18:33 PM EST
    which to me shows Jeb is out of touch with reality.

    How pathetic for @realdonaldtrump to criticize the president for 9/11. We were attacked & my brother kept us safe.


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    Maybe Trump (5.00 / 2) (#60)
    by KeysDan on Fri Oct 16, 2015 at 05:40:54 PM EST
    is just getting around to a response for "he kept us safe," at the Sept. 16 debate.    Probably something he wished he said as a zinger at the time.   Not too quick on the draw, but. still wanted to use it, even belatedly.

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    Re Benghazi (none / 0) (#67)
    by Nemi on Sun Oct 18, 2015 at 07:45:47 AM EST
    via digbysblog:

    Prior to Benghazi, were there 13 attacks on embassies and 60 deaths under President George W. Bush?

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    It's also (none / 0) (#1)
    by lentinel on Fri Oct 16, 2015 at 06:03:07 AM EST
    good theatre -

    Appearing to be in the process of choosing a running mate as if the nomination was already a fait accompli and the rest is a formality.

    Please (5.00 / 2) (#2)
    by FlJoe on Fri Oct 16, 2015 at 08:43:49 AM EST
    your CDS is showing.

    You take the perfectly normal political behavior of Clinton, add in some speculative punditry and you turn it into some kind of "self coronation".

    You are the one turning it into theatre of the absurd.

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    I'm don't (none / 0) (#4)
    by lentinel on Fri Oct 16, 2015 at 09:20:42 AM EST
    know what CDS is --- sounds like a disease of some kind...

    But people mentioning this appearance, including Jeralyn, say:  

    He's often been mentioned as a potential VP choice for her.

    She even is saying that herself during this appearance - that she's looking seriously into him for the VP spot.

    Everybody in the media is telling us how she clearly won the "debate".
    So now, she is appearing with her "potential VP choice". I don't blame her. That's show-biz. I mean - that's politics.

    So - what's the big deal?

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    You have been told before (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by jbindc on Fri Oct 16, 2015 at 10:37:15 AM EST
    CDS is Clinton Derangement Syndrome.

    And ugh, can we please retire the Si, Di Puede / Yes, we can???

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    So says the white city girl (5.00 / 3) (#20)
    by sj on Fri Oct 16, 2015 at 12:00:20 PM EST
    And ugh, can we please retire the Si, Di Puede / Yes, we can???

    This brown city girl agrees with you to this level: this usage trivializes an honorable rallying cry for labor and the under-served everywhere.

    Cesar has passed, but his legacy of self-sacrifice--and the affirmation ¡Si Se Puede!--is alive wherever farm workers organize and wherever people anywhere stand up nonviolently for their rights.
    Although not as much as Obama's adoption of the English version did.

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    White suburban girl, thank you (5.00 / 2) (#21)
    by jbindc on Fri Oct 16, 2015 at 12:13:00 PM EST
    And despite your snark, that was one of my points - it trivializes the original meaning, and of course, is only used with certain audiences, and not fully embraced.

    The other point was that it is old and tired for a political rallying cry.  If you want to convince voters that while you have years of DC experience, you still have fresh ideas, using a slogan from 7 years ago doesn't really do that...

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    See, I was all set (none / 0) (#33)
    by sj on Fri Oct 16, 2015 at 01:32:40 PM EST
    to "5" you for your first paragraph...

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    Well, this white city woman would be fine with it (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by Towanda on Fri Oct 16, 2015 at 12:52:42 PM EST
    . . . if every politician who uses it immediately attributes it to its author, a brilliant brown woman.  

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    I like Si, se puede (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by MKS on Fri Oct 16, 2015 at 12:55:09 PM EST
    and it means more "it can be done" more than yes, we can.....

    And "it can be done" is not quite on the mark either....

    A good phrase, it is not disrespectful to use it....In a non political context, it is part of normal conversation.....

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    I like it too. No idea why anyone would object. (none / 0) (#38)
    by Mr Natural on Fri Oct 16, 2015 at 02:15:58 PM EST
    It is positive.  It is succinct.

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    I thought si se puede (none / 0) (#53)
    by fishcamp on Fri Oct 16, 2015 at 04:02:31 PM EST
    Meant...yes we can.  I could flip flop on this...

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    Not really (5.00 / 2) (#58)
    by sj on Fri Oct 16, 2015 at 04:45:31 PM EST
    I thought si se puede (none / 0) (#53)
    by fishcamp on Fri Oct 16, 2015 at 03:02:31 PM MDT  

    Meant...yes we can.  I could flip flop on this...

    "Yes, we can" would be "Si,podemos".

    As MKS said, "Si, se puede" means more "it can be done", as in, "it's possible".

    So while jb is looking only 7 years back at Obama's mistranslation, the phrase as a rallying call for the United Farm Workers originated in 1972. (There is no sneering or snark whatsoever directed at jb in that sentence, btw. It's unlikely that Cesar Chavez was a household name in her home as he was in mine).


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    I don't know who that request should (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by Anne on Fri Oct 16, 2015 at 12:41:51 PM EST
    be directed to, since I cannot find that photo with that label anywhere.

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    Look at the photo on the post (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by jbindc on Fri Oct 16, 2015 at 12:48:42 PM EST


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    Uh, yeah - I see that photo. What I can't (3.50 / 2) (#27)
    by Anne on Fri Oct 16, 2015 at 12:56:30 PM EST
    find is that photo with that label anywhere but on Jeralyn's post - I don't see it at the San Antonio paper for which it was taken, nor have I found it anywhere else, so...if you have a problem with the label, I guess your issue is with her.

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    Why would you assume (2.00 / 1) (#32)
    by jbindc on Fri Oct 16, 2015 at 01:32:22 PM EST
    It was on the paper?

    It's in the post.  I commented on it. Sorry you missed it.

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    I didn't assume anything - I asked at (3.50 / 2) (#35)
    by Anne on Fri Oct 16, 2015 at 01:50:19 PM EST
    whom were you directing your "ugh" - it wasn't clear from your comment.  

    Do you have a problem with naming Jeralyn as that person?

    I didn't miss anything, but it appears you left your thinking cap on the chair by the front door.

    Oops.

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    Funny (none / 0) (#36)
    by jbindc on Fri Oct 16, 2015 at 02:13:03 PM EST
    I thought the same of you today

    I didn't miss anything, but it appears you left your thinking cap on the chair by the front door.

    Oops.




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    Y'all... (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by kdog on Fri Oct 16, 2015 at 02:43:02 PM EST
    are as salty as a buncha LA Dodger fans today...damn.

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    She never said that (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by mm on Fri Oct 16, 2015 at 11:25:27 AM EST
    "I am going to really look hard at him for anything because that's how good he is," Mrs. Clinton said when asked about the vice-presidential rumors.

    She did not specifically mention the VP spot.  The interviewer asked her the question but was very general and non-specific in her response.

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    OK then... (none / 0) (#30)
    by lentinel on Fri Oct 16, 2015 at 01:07:19 PM EST
    What question did he ask her?

    A "general" question about what?

    What question was she asked that she thought the appropriate answer was: ""I am going to really look hard at him for anything because that's how good he is.."

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    To me, it appears she is (5.00 / 2) (#3)
    by Anne on Fri Oct 16, 2015 at 09:13:43 AM EST
    taking advantage of an endorsement to increase her contact with and outreach to the Latino community, a demographic that is important to Dems if they are to prevail in November, 2016.

    Seems like smart politics to me.

    There won't be a politician who appears with her who won't be the subject of speculation - I think you should probably try to remember how much the media loves to make something out of not very much, and craft the message that works for their ratings - not for the edification of the voters - before you leap to the conclusion that this - or anything like it - means anything more than what it was.

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    She is (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by lentinel on Fri Oct 16, 2015 at 09:24:12 AM EST
    also mentioning him, during this appearance, as a potential VP.

    It's not sinister.

    Just politics.

    But I think she is also actively involved in crafting a message that works for her.

    That message is, imo, that she won the debate, and it's on to the convention - with a few formalities in between.

    I repeat.
    Not sinister.
    Just politics.

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    As far as I'm concerned, you're all right (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by Mr Natural on Fri Oct 16, 2015 at 09:40:11 AM EST
    You, Anne, FlJoe...  

    I hope we can bear in mind that we're all more or less on the same side of most issues.  I hope we remember this when the herders do their discomforting best to turn this forum into the same sort of sycophancy-fest that they did during the '08 campaign.

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    I totally (none / 0) (#29)
    by lentinel on Fri Oct 16, 2015 at 01:03:44 PM EST
    agree.

    You expressed it perfectly!

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    I Thought That was a Dig on Your Comment... (5.00 / 2) (#49)
    by ScottW714 on Fri Oct 16, 2015 at 03:26:54 PM EST
    ...actually.

    Anyways, what is wrong with "self coronation" anyways.  To me, and not because it's HRC, confidence is a good thing, and as far as I can tell, every Presidential candidate believes they are going to win.  She is different in that she is the only one anyone believes this to be true.  Not really her fault she is popular.

    I agree with some of your points, but it's getting harder in that you are so visceral about everything HRC.  I mean damn, what did she ever do do you.

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    I took you seriously... (none / 0) (#59)
    by lentinel on Fri Oct 16, 2015 at 05:39:13 PM EST
    I think this process is becoming a soap - reminiscent of the election of 2008.

    While we're talking about confidence, and who can win, and facing the opposite direction, we have just been told that we're facing at least another two years in Afghanistan - a continuing stay in Iraq, and the drums are beating for a confrontation with Russia - supposedly over Syria.

    I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with the self-coronation - or the victory lap - or whatever you want to call it. In fact, I'm just saying that that is what it is. Theatre. Appearing to be the victor. That image has legs and possibly draws money. It's politics.

    I'm just tired - and frankly somewhat frightened, that these life and death issues are not in the forefront.

    Just asking - but did any one of the candidates have a comment about P