Friday Open Thread

I have court at 8:00 am this morning, 45 minutes away. So there will be nothing from me this morning.

Here's an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    Huge storm blew through here last night, (5.00 / 2) (#1)
    by Angel on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 07:59:32 AM EST
    lost 3 large and beautiful oak trees in our front yard.  I'm bummed.  

    So sorry (5.00 / 3) (#2)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 08:24:02 AM EST
    Been there.  Something very very sad about the loss of trees you have lived with for years.  Like losing friends.  The place is never quite the same.

    Friends. That's exactly what they were to us. (5.00 / 3) (#4)
    by Angel on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 08:35:36 AM EST
    They gave us so much over the years, we'll miss them.

    I have (5.00 / 2) (#6)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 08:44:49 AM EST
    3 gianormous maple trees in my front yard.  Everyone says they are the biggest maples they have ever seen.   every year I say I am going to get the tree trimmers out to trim them back so the next ice storm doesn't do it for me and I keep putting it off.  Not cheap.  Maybe your story will get me to it.

    We've always kept our trees trimmed. Mr. Angel (5.00 / 3) (#17)
    by Angel on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 09:30:52 AM EST
    babies them and all of our roses.  But you can't win against Mother Nature when she brings in 80 mph winds.  

    I think the storm cell was right on top of us.  I drove the neighborhood this morning and only two other neighbors near us had tree damage, but theirs was minor compared to ours.  We, along with our two pups, spent two hours in the closet in the center of the house while we were being battered.  No electricity but we had our phones, flashlights, water, pillows and a blanket. Could have been much worse, grateful all we lost were the trees and a few roofing shingles.  Told Mr. Angel this morning that had a tornado hit at least we'd all have been together.  


    Grateful you are all okay (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 10:14:02 AM EST
    Too bad for the loss! (5.00 / 2) (#31)
    by ZtoA on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 11:43:53 AM EST
    I have a giant, real, redwood hugging my deck and the entire back of my house. It's huge and beautiful and is a central highway for all sorts of critters who provide entertainment for the most part. Except for one squirrel this winter who managed to eat every leaf still growing in pots on the deck. B@stard (been watching too much GoT). I get her trimmed every 8 years or so and it costs around $1500 and the guys have a crew climb as high as they can to get to everything that needs to be pruned. "My" tree is beautiful, good company, keeps me cool, breaks the ice for visitors and smells great.  

    Think I need (none / 0) (#20)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 11:01:18 AM EST
    What a cute place! (none / 0) (#21)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 11:03:48 AM EST
    My little Hobbit shack (none / 0) (#27)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 11:16:59 AM EST
    Gorgeous! (none / 0) (#23)
    by Angel on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 11:05:51 AM EST
    Yes but large (none / 0) (#25)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 11:13:45 AM EST
    There are 3 and any one would smash my tiny house flat

    There are some HOT guys playing (none / 0) (#29)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 11:40:12 AM EST
    For Mexico right now Capt Howdy :)

    I'm there (none / 0) (#33)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 11:53:30 AM EST
    At least they died... (5.00 / 3) (#3)
    by kdog on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 08:31:00 AM EST
    a natural death, and (I assume) they didn't land on the house!  

    Chopping down big beautiful trees seems to be all the rage in my neighborhood...for no other reason than too lazy to rake leaves I suspect, or other purely aesthetic reasons.  Bums me out...trees rock.


    Know what you mean, just tears me up when I see (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by Angel on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 08:37:08 AM EST
    people destroying part of nature like that.

    Watching the bum out series (5.00 / 2) (#13)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 09:13:46 AM EST
    Years of Living Dangerously, and the cities really need the trees in the coming summer heat that will continue to rise.  Seems like a horrible mistake to me to be removing trees from areas that also contain asphalt and concrete.

    One of the things I really liked about (5.00 / 2) (#14)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 09:16:02 AM EST
    Atlanta.  The trees.  LOTS of trees.  I lived in the bullseye center of the city and to look out my windows you would have thought I was in the surburbia.  No visible neighbors.

    As we were saying (none / 0) (#50)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 03:24:06 PM EST
    Really sorry, I hate that too (5.00 / 3) (#9)
    by ruffian on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 09:04:19 AM EST
    I like the yard-forest atmosphere, even in my tiny yard I have a pretty big-and-growing Florida live-oak tree. They really are like friends, as others have said.

    They keep things cooler too (5.00 / 3) (#11)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 09:09:29 AM EST
    There was a 10 degree difference between our shaded drive and the unshaded street according to our truck when I pulled out of the driveway on Monday.

    Our drive is a downhill jaunt, and on a really smokin day, if you have the windows down you can feel the temperature change going down it.  I would hate to see our cooling bills without our little patch of the forrest.


    Oh yeah. The front of my house gets the (5.00 / 1) (#36)
    by ruffian on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 11:59:03 AM EST
    morning and early afternoon sun, and that tree keeps the house shaded. I don't want to think about how much more my electric bill would be without it.

    My trees are all in front (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 12:03:34 PM EST
    Which is actually good because my roof is perfectly tilted and oriented for solar panels.  Had a guy out the other day.  Solar power coming soon.

    Like many old houses mine is oriented "to the workd" not the street.  The front is due north. So the back gets sun all day and the front is always shaded.  Often my solution is to only air condition the front of the house if it's really hit.


    Sorry, horrible loss (5.00 / 2) (#12)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 09:10:16 AM EST
    Good read... (5.00 / 2) (#7)
    by kdog on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 08:52:20 AM EST
    real stories of what a living wage means, from employees of the racino at Aqueduct, who saw their wages double overnight when they unionized.

    Are you listening Gov. Cuomo?  Mayor De Blasio?$15 bucks an hour...if not $20.  If Seattle can do it, so can we.  Not only does it make economic sense, it's the right thing to do.

    I remember when my Dad's (none / 0) (#30)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 11:43:52 AM EST
    factory, a Brown Shoe box factory, was unionized. His wages almost doubled and he got a pension.

    It was after a long and bitter fight but it was worth it.

    So the answer is not government. The answer is private unions negotiating for their members. It really is democracy at the very and best level, not begging some government official to "give" you something.


    I see your point... (none / 0) (#32)
    by kdog on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 11:48:16 AM EST
    but the government can help by raising the floor.  Unions and people power alone cannot combat our massive income disparity problem alone...it's massive.

    Government is a big reason why CEO pay ballooned from 10-15x the worker to 100-150x...time to help bring us back to something resembling sustainable economic sanity.


    Not to mention (none / 0) (#34)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 11:54:46 AM EST
    Not passing "right to work " laws

    The government can help by (none / 0) (#39)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 12:15:17 PM EST
    insuring that the employee has the right to unionize, or not for that matter. Some corps are fair employers and some unions are bad.

    Power and control is always the goal of the "bosses" be they union reps or corp managers.

    And a decent minimum for non union employees isn't bad. Of course the question always become what is "decent." To me the figure should be around $15 and if the price of a burger goes up a bit I have no problem. And while some minimum wage jobs are true entry level too many have become long term because the high paying factory jobs have went overseas.

    And back in the day we all helped by buying those great Japanese cars with great quality and low prices instead of those low quality high priced union built bombs.  ;-)

    CEO pay ballooned when stock options became the order of the day. Then the cross dressing on the boards allowed them to claim they had to pay John 20 mill because Joe was getting 20 mill....kinda a minimum wage on steroids... Nonsense, of course but the game was so crooked the stock holders could do little.

    Of course the real problem is that today the country is being flooded by, using a PC name,  undocumented workers who will work cheap and live terrible by our standards but better than what they left. The way to stop that is to put the employers in jail but that won't happen. And we can all help by refusing to do business with companies that hire them.


    15 it is then... (5.00 / 1) (#44)
    by kdog on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 01:41:11 PM EST
    states/localities with especially high costs of living can adjust up from there.

    Point taken about the American consumer being their own worst enemy when it comes to their wages.  And about power corrupting...nobody is bigger on unions than me, but of course big unions can exploit their membership as much as the employer.  That's not an argument against unions, but an argument against greed and corruption.  

    Not buying the undocumented thang though...as long as the $15 applies to the papered and paperless alike it'll be a huge improvement. Natives like us will always have the leg up for jobs over a recent arrival...and I'm down with giving everybody a shot to improve their lot.  


    Interactive sculpture (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 09:06:55 AM EST
    This might be old news but it's pretty cool

    That's pretty cool (none / 0) (#40)
    by ZtoA on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 12:49:00 PM EST
    I have a book jigged out to look like a gun hanging in my "weapons display" area. It is signed by the NY artist - Robert The. The book is The Adversary. But it can't do all the calisthenics that this book does. Too bad the artist used only blank paper. It would be a good read if he used text.

    Fun news day (5.00 / 2) (#16)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 09:21:24 AM EST
    NASA unveils plans for warp drive ship.

    "There's no speed limit on the expansion and contraction of space," White said at the conference. "You can actually find a way to get around what I like to call the 11th commandment: Thou shall not exceed the speed of light."
    It's the idea of space warps that inspired physicist Miguel Alcubierre in 1994 to first theorize a mathematical model of a warp drive that would be able to bend space and time. While studying Alcubierre's equations, White decided to design his own retooled version of the Alcubierre Drive. His recently unveiled design has much less empty space than the first concept model, increasing its efficiency.
    The warp drive that White's team has been working on would literally transcend space, shortening the distance between two points and allowing the craft to break the speed of light. This would be a spaceship with no speed limit.

    Ok, I'm done

    Am I the only one thinking (5.00 / 1) (#51)
    by Zorba on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 05:08:49 PM EST
    "Warp factor one, Mr. Sulu!"
    "Aye, aye, Captain."

    Shows my age.      ;-)


    Not so much (none / 0) (#52)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 05:20:15 PM EST
    Star Trek is bug again.  Rebooted and recast. Must say the new Zulu is a lot cuter than the old one.

    Ah, but is the (none / 0) (#53)
    by Zorba on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 05:37:49 PM EST
    "new Sulu" gay?  Because the original one is, a proponent of gay rights, and active in politics.
    You can't take that away from him.  Cuter or not cuter.    ;-)

    I don't know (none / 0) (#54)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 05:56:11 PM EST
    But I hear from George everyday on FaceBook.  He agrees with me.  In fact I got a Polish proverb from him today that I liked about dealing with unpleasant situations -

    Not my circus
    Not my monkeys


    OMG! (none / 0) (#56)
    by Zorba on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 06:20:08 PM EST
    Mr. Zorba uses this phrase all the time!
    We love it!

    I like him more and more (5.00 / 1) (#58)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 06:52:20 PM EST
    Btw (none / 0) (#55)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 06:00:45 PM EST
    You are right, it's Sulu.  I just can't type

    Blame (none / 0) (#59)
    by Zorba on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 06:57:50 PM EST
    auto-correct.  It comes up with some pretty stupid stuff.

    Indeed (none / 0) (#63)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 07:53:25 PM EST
    To paraphrase Mel Brooks... (none / 0) (#48)
    by kdog on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 01:54:29 PM EST
    "Oh sh*t, Spaceballs, there goes the universe".  

    Seriously though I worry about these guys breaking something unknown/not understood out in the ether...hope they know what they're doing.

    Man was not meant to travel 70 mph on the interstate, never mind beyond the speed of light.  F*cking up one planet and leaving spacetrash in the Milky Way is quite enough, tyvm.  Lets quit while we're behind.


    RED ALERT (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 10:14:04 AM EST
    The superstitious may want to steer clear of black cats this Friday the 13th, but venturing outside very early in the morning will be worthwhile--you'll be able to catch the spectacular full "honey moon" in the night sky.

    The honey moon officially reaches its full moon phase at 12:13 a.m. EDT on Friday morning for eastern North America. But its honey hues will shine most brightly in the early evening.

    With the sun's path across the sky at its highest during this month of the summer solstice, the moon is at its lowest, which keeps the lunar orb close to the horizon and makes it appear more amber than other full moons this year.

    The amber colors are due to the scattering of longer wavelengths of light by dust and pollution in our atmosphere. "It is a similar phenomenon as seen at sunset, when sunlight is scattered towards the red end of the spectrum, making the sun's disk appear orange-red to the naked-eye," says astronomer Raminder Singh Samra of the H. R. MacMillan Space Centre in Vancouver, Canada.

    The most spectacular part of the so-called honey moon begins hours before midnight, due to an illusion by which the moon appears larger to sky-watchers when it's near the horizon than when it hangs high in the sky.

    We should have had this information yesterday (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by CoralGables on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 11:06:11 AM EST

    As usual... (5.00 / 2) (#68)
    by unitron on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 09:29:31 PM EST
    ...in overcast Eastern NC, it would have done no good.

    I don't know if people living here even know that there is such a thing as astronomy, because it always clouds up when there's going to be something cool to see.


    RED ALERT (none / 0) (#42)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 01:25:29 PM EST

    (CNN) -- Common Western superstition says Friday the 13th is unlucky. But what does it say about a Friday the 13th with a full moon and solar flares that could create geomagnetic storms large enough to disrupt Earth's atmosphere?
    We may find out this Friday.
    NASA cameras captured three major solar flares this week -- events in which the sun hurls powerful bursts of matter into the atmosphere. When large enough, these bursts send shock waves -- called coronal mass ejections, or CMEs -- throughout space.

    Don't believe in bad luck? (5.00 / 2) (#108)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 08:44:37 PM EST
    Heading into yesterday's Stanley Cup Finals Game 5 against the L.A. Kings, and with his team trailing the Kings, three games to one, New York Rangers goalie Henrik Lundqvist was reminded by a reporter that it was Friday the 13th, there was a full moon outside, and he was playing in the 666th game of his NHL career.

    The Rangers lost, 3-2.


    I'm telling ya (5.00 / 1) (#109)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 08:50:35 PM EST
    There's a disturbance in the force

    Mercury is in retrograde (none / 0) (#112)
    by Anne on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 11:03:22 PM EST
    Unless you've been living in a cave, you've most likely heard of the cosmic event called, Mercury Retrograde. Well, get ready to buckle up your seat belt and strap yourself in because this event will happen again from June 7 to July 1. In simple terms, it's a time to be careful about the way you operate your life in order to avoid a variety of problems that tend to occur during these three weeks. During the retrograde period the world seems to go haywire with miscommunications of all types.

    What causes this to happen? Astrologically, each planet in the sky exerts a unique influence on us, and the world we live in. The planet Mercury rules our intelligence, mind, memory and, all types of communication ranging from talking and texting to writing. It also affects our self-expression, and communication style. In a more public sense, it rules commerce, computers, telephones, transportation and air travel.

    How Mercury functions in a person's birth chart explains a great deal about how they formulate ideas and share them. It indicates how someone makes sense of the everyday world they live in. During these three weeks when Mercury is retrograde, one's mental faculties are not functioning well; in fact they "go on vacation."

    When this unique event happens (3-4 times a year), communications of all types go "bonkers!" Suddenly, normal communication becomes unreliable, filled with misinformation where important data is missing or misunderstood. The passage of information from one person to the other seems to be unintentionally cloudy or confused in some way. After all, Mercury does rule the mind, mental clarity, talking, self-expression and overall communication. During the Retrograde period, a person's intellectual, communication and mental processes are less acute. They become mistake-prone and forgetful.

    This is why any action one takes or decision one makes during the retrograde often fail or seem sabotaged. As a result they will have to be re-done or restructured in some way when the Retrograde period ends and Mercury goes direct.


    Things that make you say "hmmmm..."


    For the record (none / 0) (#113)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jun 15, 2014 at 09:21:20 AM EST
    I don't really buy into this stuff.
    That said, I don't buy into weather forecasting either but I like to know the forecast.

    one of the best


    I don't know if I buy it (none / 0) (#114)
    by ZtoA on Sun Jun 15, 2014 at 11:02:18 AM EST
    but I think some of it is really interesting. Actually emergency wards experience upticks in full moon times, that is documented at least. I've followed a couple of astrology blogs where I've learned that mundane astrology is BS. For some reason psychological astrology still interests me.

    I have 3 weather apps on my phone and check at least one every morning. I love weather apps. Since I actually like the NW gentle rains I like to see a solid light green extending out into the pacific on the radar in the morning which means I'll get in a very good day of work. So I guess I do BUY into weather forecasts.

    When I was pregnant I didn't care for pickles or ice cream or that sort of thing, but for some reason I had to know the weather in Redding CA every day at least once. I did not live in Redding, so it was a pickle to me. I check the weather where loved ones are living. When a niece was studying in Nepal for 6 months I checked the weather there every day and it was for thunderstorms. I thought my app was not working for Nepal, but after my niece returned I found out it was correct! More reason to buy into it.


    I have 3 weather apps on my iPad (none / 0) (#115)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jun 15, 2014 at 11:06:10 AM EST
    And usually check them more than once a day.  Especially on Sunday.  It finally stopped raining about three days ago after almost literally a month of daily deluges but guess what? It supposed to rain again.  Tonight of course.

    Starting about 6.


    Of course (none / 0) (#116)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Jun 15, 2014 at 11:56:13 AM EST
    It's a weather conspriacy against you watching Games of Thrones.

    Now I'll have to check the (none / 0) (#187)
    by ZtoA on Wed Jun 18, 2014 at 01:06:02 AM EST
    weather in your area.

    What about calico cats? (none / 0) (#75)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 01:50:58 AM EST
    I've been working from home while I'm on my chemo regimen, and mine has been underfoot practically all day, and very demanding of my attention. And if I don't give it to her, she starts meowing -- very loudly.

    She engages in this sort of behavior occasionally, so it's not THAT out of the ordinary, even if it is somewhat annoying. But if we don't stop whatever it is that we're doing at the time and acknowledge Her Royal Highness, she turns into "Brat Cat" and races around the place, bouncing off the furniture until one of us gets up and compels her to cease and desist.

    We can't just toss her outside and let her run around out in the commons, because she was declawed by her prior owner and would be defenseless in any encounter with another feline or canine. While our furniture thanks us, I've always considered declawing an inhumane practice.

    I've tried bribing her with her favorite kitty treats in order to placate her, but she just woofs them down and then comes right back at me. She's presently sitting by my desk as I type this, looking up at me and staring. This time, I think she just wants more treats. I swear, she'd make a meal out of them if we let her.



    I try to stay away from cat videos (5.00 / 1) (#80)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 10:32:47 AM EST
    For someone who stays away from cat videos (none / 0) (#82)
    by ZtoA on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 11:20:53 AM EST
    you seem to find really funny ones. I love cat videos - it's a secret shameful pleasure, tho I don't seek them out, they just present themselves. Of course I love cats. I had two in college living with me in a dorm. One was the leader - Toulouse and the other was a kitten who followed Toulouse everywhere. I woke up one night and saw them both acting very guilty after having just knocked a jar of my growing moon rocks off onto my record collection. "Do you know what you guys have just done?"

    Then (5.00 / 1) (#84)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 11:28:51 AM EST
    you will probably like this

    It appears we have the sandbox to ourselves again today.  Would love to participate in the futball thread but my ADHD barely allows me to pay attention to things I care about.  I would just be constantly going OT and being annoying.  


    very silly, and cats do that all the time. (none / 0) (#86)
    by ZtoA on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 12:15:08 PM EST
    As a little kid the best use I had for doll clothes was to dress up the cats in them and watch them drop to the ground and slink around looking annoyed. We always loved them up before and after and gave them treats and they still loved us, but they were not my proudest moments. My daughter's little runt kitty would come to a tune she played on a harmonica - every time. And she trained her to do an awesome drum roll. That cat adored her (and me to some extent) but despised everyone else, human and animal. Otherwise our cats and dogs and fish usually adored each other.

    ... my mother rescued a very young but very friendly male Tonkinese stray, who was probably no more than six months old at the time. He had apparently been abandoned and was then hanging out in the parking lot of our local supermarket, looking for a friendly face to take him home. He caught Mom's eye for a few days in a row and always came straight over to her, ready to interact. She just couldn't resist his appeals.

    Now, Sampson was something of a runt, very people-oriented, and showed a rather remarkable affinity and tolerance for young children. My youngest sister and her friend used to regularly stuff him in her Barbie van -- and at only 7 lbs., he fit perfectly inside -- and then laughingly shove him down the driveway. The damnedest thing was that he appeared to actually enjoy it.

    It was the funniest thing to see that small cat with just his head sticking out of the top of the toy van, staring straight ahead and trying to look dignified as he rolled down the driveway. At the end of the ride, he'd hop out and run back up the driveway toward the girls, and they'd just grab him and do it all over again.

    Even more unusual, you could also play fetch with him, but only with his favorite toy -- a small bean bag that he'd often carry in his mouth around the house, either seeking out someone to play with or a good place to take a nap.

    One of my siblings and I would toss that beanbag back and forth in the air, while Sampson would crouch in wait between us, ready to pounce. Suddenly, he'd wiggle his little butt, leap straight up about four feet and snatch it in mid-air, often to squeals of laughter. Then he'd take his catch, carry it back to one of us and drop it at our feet, ready to go again. (Little did we realize at the time that we were actually training him to successfully hunt birds. Doves were his favorite prey.)

    That cat was way cool, and a longtime presence and friendly face around Mom's house. And she was heartbroken when he finally suffered kidney failure at the ripe old age of 21, and she had to put him down. He just laid down in her lap while the vet gave the shot, and she gently stroked and petted him until he passed. She had him cremated, and his ashes are buried in her backyard, his favorite place in the world.



    Calicos are very difficult Donald. (5.00 / 1) (#103)
    by fishcamp on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 05:29:23 PM EST
    I've had several because they are great mousers.  They don't want any other cats around and they need to be exercised.  I actually walk both my cats down the street and back, at night, most nights. Blackie trots along beside me like a dog but callie darts and hides all along the way.  They are sneaky and like to bite too.  They are also very cuddly and think they are secretaries when you're on the computer.  It's good to have a little friend during your recovery. BTW all calicos are females.  

    Donald with my calico (5.00 / 1) (#104)
    by fishcamp on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 06:02:50 PM EST
    I also use a short length of old fashioned cloth line washed and dried a few times, with double knots at the ends for them to leap, roll, and tire out while trying to catch it.  Regular cat toys don't work or last very long.  They also make a catnip spray that stones them way down but doesn't last long.  Calicos are so smart they recognize all the various tones of "no" if you back it up with sly expertise.  You have to out think them grasshopper.

    You know what our calico likes to play with? (none / 0) (#107)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 08:18:00 PM EST
    Toilet paper tubes! The Spouse found that out a few years ago purely by accident, when the cat followed her into the guest bathroom while she replaced a used-up roll, and the old tube rolled off the bathroom counter where she had placed it and onto the floor. The cat discovered that the tube rolled, and it was off to the races.

    She'll bat one around the floor and watch it roll and then attack it. Eventually over the course of a few days she'll decide to rip it to shreds, because I'll find the pieces. At least there's no shortage of TP tubes! Meanwhile, a basket of her toys sits (mostly) untouched in the den / office.

    Go figure.


    In very, very rare instances, (5.00 / 1) (#106)
    by Zorba on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 08:08:29 PM EST
    you can have a male calico cat, but it is XXY and sterile.  
    The coat color is a sex-linked trait, and you need two X chromosomes to display the calico coat color.

    True truth Zorba and... (5.00 / 1) (#110)
    by fishcamp on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 09:07:09 PM EST
    those rare male calicos are worth about $10,000 per cat.

    My calico was not a great mouser (none / 0) (#188)
    by ZtoA on Wed Jun 18, 2014 at 01:11:58 AM EST
    or anything. My other cats rid my property of gophers and moles, but brought mice into my house and then let them go since they had nice food in their dishes. But my calico was rather fat - no she was very fat and was beautiful. She would go outside and the birds, especially the blue jays and crows, would screech at her and fly down and peck at her. She would hide her head in a hedge and her big beautiful body would be just out there and they still pecked her so she would run into the house terrified. Luckily it was very entertaining.

    marijuana driving impairment? maybe (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by Lfrieling on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 11:29:09 AM EST
    What is most fun about the recent spate of news articles on marijuana as an impairing substance for driving is this.  The impairing impact is so subtle, if it exists, that it is quite difficult to measure and assess, scientifically.  The impact is so subtle that just finding it is a challenge.  That is of course never in line one of the story, and never in the first paragraph of the underlying "research."  

    Notice that the recent articles refer to OLD news, recycling old inaccurate horror-stories, or are police-supported efforts.  Notice that many are not new research or experiments, but instead are meta-studies or meta-analysis.  These take OLD experiments and the reported data and reinterpret the old experiments to form "new" conclusions.  That means that the "new" information relies upon the quality of the old underlying experiments and upon the old underlying papers.  Then, they rely upon the paradigms overlaid on the old data to provide "new" material.  This second stage introduces additional room for bad science, bad logic, and underlying agendas to be put in the public eye.  Again, the sexy story controls, and the facts are treated as of no importance unless they add to the sexy story

    Remember that the research is clear that the COMBINATION of pot and alcohol may become substantially impairing, more than would be expected from the amount of either alone, or of both together.  Alcohol and pot synergystically  impair, so great caution is called for.  None of us want to drive impaired, nor do we want to be accused and perhaps convicted based upon bad or terrible science.  

    Justice delayed is ... (5.00 / 1) (#57)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 06:51:26 PM EST
    ... still justice delayed, but in this case, at least the truth finally outed.

    Pacific Resources Partnership, Inc., a local developers-funded 527-class political action committee whose $3.6 million independent expenditure media campaign against former Hawaii Gov. Ben Cayetano was widely credited with having caused his loss in the 2012 Honolulu mayor's race, has agreed to a settlement with him regarding the defamation lawsuit he filed against the organization in the months just prior to his defeat.

    (I'd link to the local article, but the Honolulu Star-Advertiser has a paywall.)

    During the campaign, PRP had implied repeatedly on television and radio and in print that Cayetano had been the willing and corrupt recipient of nearly $1 million in illegal campaign contributions from foreign investors during his successful 1998 gubernatorial re-election campaign against then-Maui Mayor (and now former governor as well) Linda Lingle.

    PRP's insinuations raised numerous eyebrows around town, including those of yours truly, for while Cayetano has a rather well-deserved reputation as a caustic and curmudgeonly individual, he was also well known to be a politician who was scrupulously honest, a man who spoke his mind to a fault and was a champion of public accountability.

    But despite subsequent and numerous public statements repeatedly issued from State Campaign Spending Commission officials that the ads' claims were false and misleading, they continued to run until November 2012, and sad to say, they worked. The allegations ultimately had a very corrosive effect on Cayetano's public credibility as an honest broker and straight shooter. Formerly the frontrunner in the mayor's race, he subsequently lost to current Mayor Kirk Caldwell by 8 percentage points, and in polls afterward, voters who switched their support tended to cite those ads as the primary reason for their change of heart.

    Monetary terms of the settlement were not released, per terms of the court agreement. But the real eye-opener, which was made public, is the requirement that PRP take out a full-page ad in the front section of in this coming Sunday's Honolulu Star-Advertiser, and also run prime-time TV spots on all major stations in the Honolulu market over the next week.

    In those ads, PRP will admit publicly that they had "maliciously defamed" the former governor during the 2012 mayoral campaign with statements which were "knowingly untrue" -- those are the exact phrases to be used -- for the expressed purpose of causing his defeat in the 2012 mayor's race. Further, the ads will also include a public apology to Cayetano and his family for all the pain and suffering PRP's smear campaign caused them, in large part from the obvious damage to his public reputation, which even with this apology will probably still never be recovered fully.

    (No public statement has yet been issued from the man who proved to be the primary beneficiary of the PRP smear campaign, Mayor Caldwell.)

    PRP's leadership had first dismissed Gov. Cayetano's defamation suit when it was filed as nothing more than sour grapes from a nasty old man. Political observers asked why he was even bothering, and civil libertarians worried about the possible chilling effect the lawsuit might have on the right to free political speech. But today, the local scuttlebutt also has it that as part of the agreement, PRP's entire leadership team is to be fired, and the organization abolished. In a word: Good.

    Congratulations to Ben Cayetano for standing his ground, and winning a big victory for common decency. As he said today, it is his wish that such outside spending groups will now think twice about what they say about other people, before they hit the campaign airwaves. One can only hope.

    (Disclosure: PRP's executive director and his wife have long been a close friend of ours, going back 20 years. In 2011, he had approached me about a contract to do opposition research on Gov. Cayetano, but I summarily refused to even consider the offer. When those ads began airing the following year, I was shocked at what I saw and paid him a visit at PRP's offices, which are five floors upstairs from mine. I urged him to cease running them, because I thought they were potentially libelous and could get him into serious trouble personally. Likewise, this time he refused my entreaties, and those ads stayed up for the duration. He may have won that election, but he certainly lost the subsequent lawsuit, big-time, and may well have now rendered himself politically toxic and unemployable out here. Can't say that I didn't warn him.)


    Where to start (5.00 / 1) (#62)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 07:49:28 PM EST
    Tempted to be suspicious that you another regular conservative who appears here doing an impersonation  because your post appeared twice. As his often does.  Question, do you use AOL?

    As far as "understanding" J and BTD (regular posters) are about as good as it gets at explaining it.  I suggest reading their posts with as open a mind as you can provide.

    Wow, I am impressed, Cap'n (none / 0) (#66)
    by MKS on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 08:53:39 PM EST
    You were nice and sincere to what could be a troll.

    I have basically given up trying to reason with conservatives, or even discuss issues with them.  They change their minds when they get beat, no sooner, no later.


    Common ground ya know (none / 0) (#67)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 09:01:29 PM EST
    And all that happy horse ...

    You were nice, so I don't have to be. (5.00 / 1) (#73)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 10:33:42 PM EST
    I was about to tell him that at the start of the day, each of us at TL stares at a photo of the Aqua Buddha for 15 minutes, then pour ourselves a full 6 oz. glass of Johnny Walker Black, drink it neat in one or two gulps, then as the warmth rushes over us, we grab a live chicken from the front yard, bite off its head, drink its blood, and then lay the bird's lifeless carcass upon the hidden alter in our hall closets as an offering to Kaan, Dark Lord of the Sith.

    But then I realized that it probably would not be a good thing to divulge our secret Leftist ritual to a total strang-- D'OH!!!

    I'm sorry! I did it again, didn't I? Well, I best get going, Cap'n, because Jeralyn's going to order me to go to the munitions shed next to the old WWII landing strip near Pearl Harbor, and empty it of its contents before the feds read this post and head my way. Just one more thing, though -- has anybody seen my bong?



    I thought the first part was a given (none / 0) (#77)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 09:45:39 AM EST
    And if they know how to use the google sadly they know the rest.  So no worries.

    I still think it's Jim in disguise and the double post gave him away and he skittered off like a bug when the light is turned on.

    Prove me wrong new guy.  It's easy.   Say something coherent.


    It did not go unnoticed that ... (none / 0) (#95)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 03:33:44 PM EST
    ... Jeralyn very quickly deleted him from the thread.

    I did by me (none / 0) (#96)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 03:59:57 PM EST
    Until after I posted that last comment

    Just finished an amazing book (5.00 / 1) (#64)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 08:28:53 PM EST
    Let The Right One In

    By John Ajvide Lindqvist

    It was made into two good films.  The first Swedish one of the same title and an English language remake called Let Me In that was surprisingly good.   Either or both films are worth the time but if you saw either and enjoyed it you really should get the book.
    It is soooooo much creepier and so much better and takes the story to places that could simply never be made into a movie.  Mostly dealing with the child vampires backstory which is hair raising.

    Depending on your tolerance for subtitles I would consider seeing the subtitled rather than the dubbed version of the Swedish version.

    One thing sort easy to miss (none / 0) (#65)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 08:33:51 PM EST
    In the films is when it says "I'm not really a girl".  He's not.  And the story, rather like Reeks, unexplored in the films, is way scarier

    Jamaica to legalize Jamaican (5.00 / 2) (#71)
    by Mr Natural on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 09:40:08 PM EST
    Jamaican marijuana laws are about to get as relaxed as the Rastafari.

    Mahers rant this week (5.00 / 1) (#72)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 10:12:05 PM EST
    Was on pot.  It was amazing.  He covers the issue of the lookalike packaging.  He hates it.

    "This is not what stoners would do.  It's what R.J.Renolds would do"

    Well, I guess that we're all a little bit poorer.. (5.00 / 2) (#74)
    by desertswine on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 11:49:59 PM EST
    I'm embarrassed to say (none / 0) (#78)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 10:05:02 AM EST
    I did not know who that was.   What an amazing story.   In case others are as ignorant as me
    When I heard him I thought this has to be a woman.

    RIP Little Jimmie.  


    Oh, thank you so much for the link. (none / 0) (#79)
    by Angel on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 10:23:45 AM EST
    Incredibly beautiful voice.  

    While my ukulele weeps (5.00 / 1) (#81)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 11:13:09 AM EST
    I knew who that was, without even ... (none / 0) (#97)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 04:01:58 PM EST
    ... bothering to click on that link, because your "ukulele weeps" reference gave you away.

    Jake Shimabukuro lives about three blocks away from us. He's long been recognized out here in the islands as a as a virtuoso with four strings, going back to his high school days. You'll quite often see him walking in the neighborhood with his wife, pushing their toddler son in his stroller. (She's an OB/GYN with Kapiolani Medical Center for Women and Children -- you know, the facility where Barack Obama was "allegedly" born. ;-D)

    That video of him covering "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" was first posted on YouTube without his knowledge back in 2006, and became one of the very first videos to ever go "viral." He's always been a very popular entertainer on the local club scene, and he's since worked with artists from Jimmy Buffet to Cyndi Lauper, and has been featured on various late-night shows with Jimmy Kimmel and Conan O'Brien, all due to that video.

    Good choice, Cap'n. For those of you who haven't heard Jake Shimabukuro, he's definitely worth a listen.



    I spent about an hour (none / 0) (#98)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 04:08:37 PM EST
    Listening to others after face book pointed me to it.  Amazing.

    I listened to the Terry Gross interview (5.00 / 1) (#83)
    by ZtoA on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 11:25:50 AM EST
    of Hillary Clinton, and it was the first time I really did not like Terry. I didn't like her apparent agenda or that she opened up Clinton for, yet more and more, sexist name calling.

    Agreed. Terry Gross (5.00 / 1) (#92)
    by KeysDan on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 02:31:51 PM EST
    is usually a pretty good interviewer, but the interview with Mrs. Clinton was odd.  She seemed as if she did not hear the responses and just repeated her questions, varying them slightly.

    A more productive approach might have been if Ms. Gross asked about Secretary Clinton's important speech to the UN at Geneva, on December 6, 2011.  This speech was entitled "Human Rights are Gay Rights," and it was presented on Human Rights Day. Mrs Clinton strongly admonished those countries whose laws mistreat or lethally condemn their citizens.

    Moreover, a good question would have addressed the election of Sam Kutesa, foreign minister of Uganda, over protests of anti-gay laws in his country and his fitness for the prestigious position of UN president.

    As for same sex marriage, it seemed clear to me that Mrs. Clinton responded that, while a long-time and strong supporter of gay rights, same sex marriage was an evolutionary process, just as with many Americans--politicians and everyday citizens.  The facts were not hard to elicit in an interview: once she supported civil unions and moved on to marriage.  As Senator, for example, she demonstrated public support as a marcher in gay pride parades.  No gotcha questions were apt.

    The most frequent criticism I have heard is that Mrs. Clinton became "defensive,"  but this seemed to be a time to defend her stance.  Perhaps, this was a forerunner to questioners more of the FOX than NPR variety.  My only suggestion, and it is  that, not a criticism, is that as Mrs. Clinton hits the book signing/political road she needs to tuck in some of the more deferential treatment received as Secretary of State. The questions will, as she well knows, impolite and irrelevant.  Of course, set the record straight, immediately, and defend when required.  But,  Ms. Gross was already making a spectacle of herself, she did not need any additional help.  


    Ditto that. (none / 0) (#94)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 03:29:23 PM EST
    I felt really uncomfortable listening to that part of the interview, and actually felt sorry for Terry Gross because I otherwise really enjoy listening to her.

    The woman simply did not know when to leave it be, and came across as a badgering and hectoring bully. She reminded me of Rick Lazio in that 2000 New York Senate debate, when he just strode across the stage and got in Hillary Clinton's face, waving that piece of paper at her.

    It was all so totally unnecessary, especially given Mrs. Clinton's standing as a longstanding champion of the LGBT community, a position which further dates back to darker times when such support wasn't nearly as trendy and cool as it is now. Alone in my car and driving down the freeway, I found myself talking aloud to Ms. Gross inside radio, "Jeez, lady, give it a rest already! Who. The. Phuque. Cares?"



    Now, many headlines are calling Clinton (5.00 / 1) (#99)
    by ZtoA on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 04:11:51 PM EST
    "testy". I suppose soon it will be "bossy". I also was very disappointed that Terry thought that Hillary would simply always agree with Bill. What the F was she thinking? I hope the Captain is right and it helps Clinton with independents.

    The build up to Friday the 13th (none / 0) (#100)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 04:18:12 PM EST
    With a freakish full moon has everyone in a tizzy :)

    The force is disturbed.


    Well, you have (none / 0) (#101)
    by Zorba on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 04:28:11 PM EST
    the so-called full "honey" moon falling on Friday the 13th.
    What more could you want to presage some very strange things happening?
    Never mind that nothing strange happened.  That won't stop some people from having their tizzies.
    May The Force Be With You.    ;-)

    I'm seeing above average tizzies (none / 0) (#102)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 04:45:09 PM EST
    My reaction was (none / 0) (#85)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 11:30:01 AM EST

    Media Matters: (none / 0) (#87)
    by oculus on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 12:41:57 PM EST
    Good link (none / 0) (#88)
    by ZtoA on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 12:50:21 PM EST
    I cannot figure out why Terry kept asking over and over. I cannot figure out why she made it so obvious that she was going for a gotcha moment on this issue, and what her agenda really was - any why.

    IMO an agenda (5.00 / 1) (#90)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 12:57:14 PM EST
    Is not unusual for her.  The one and only time I ever called in to a talk show was once when she was doing a segment on the unionization movement in the VFX industry.  A subject I know a bit about.  Because the point I was trying to make didn't fit her meme she cut me off.

    She would have cut Hilkary off if she could have.


    The good news (none / 0) (#89)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 12:53:03 PM EST
    Being badgered by Gross on NPR won't hurt her with anyone that matters and might actually help her with independents.

    It was a ridiculous interview.  I actually liked the way Hillary handled it.


    Clinton has very much supported (none / 0) (#91)
    by ZtoA on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 12:59:09 PM EST
    GLBT rights (along with women's and girl's rights) for so long. If this horrible interview helps, then good.

    Breath testing for pot smoking? Perhaps (5.00 / 1) (#117)
    by Lfrieling on Sun Jun 15, 2014 at 02:49:49 PM EST
    A device which purports to provide police with a roadside device similar to a PBT (portable breath tester for alcohol) is closer to reality.

    The claim of the developers is that the device can show whether a person has smoked within the previous two hours.  If that is accurate, it is likely that the device is looking for active THC (and not for urine-worthy Carboxy (THC COOH).  The COOH is what is found for days or longer in urine, having been stored in fat cells.  It is NOT psychoactive.  This device is likely intended to look for active THC (why many smoke for recreation) introduced within 2 hours or so of testing.  Obvious questions in my mind include 1) does it indicate edibles, or smoke only? 2) Does it detect vaporizer use?  3) how does mouth THC correlate to blood THC?  And REMEMBER, there is not a good correlation between blood levels of active THC and the degree of impairment or lack of impairment for a specific person.  That is different than alcohol, where there is a pretty good correlation.  One person's "go to sleep" THC blood level is another's mild buzz.  Lenny

    Tarpon Smackdown (none / 0) (#8)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 08:56:19 AM EST
    He's an idiot (none / 0) (#22)
    by CoralGables on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 11:04:31 AM EST
    Hopefully our keys fishermen will chime in. Hand feeding tarpon in the keys is common in some spots. It appears to me this guy's idea was to rip one the dock pets out of the water.

    I was rooting for the tarpon (5.00 / 1) (#35)
    by ruffian on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 11:56:46 AM EST
    How about a better (none / 0) (#38)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 12:10:01 PM EST

    speed and power of these animals is impressive.  I would want a bigger boat.


    Still another, terrifying but happy ending (none / 0) (#46)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 01:45:53 PM EST
    this time you won't root for the fish

    I don't think

    (Hey, fish on Fridays, right)


    Totally (none / 0) (#26)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 11:14:45 AM EST
    Sort of wish the fish had taken the arm an went on about its business

    That looks like Robbies Marina (none / 0) (#76)
    by fishcamp on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 07:51:07 AM EST
    very close to my house in the middle keys.  The owner charges one dollar to look at all the tarpon or three bucks to feed them five little fish.  This happens frequently at Robbies.  I recognize the location, I think, by the catamaran in the background.  I'm heading out now with my trusty fly rod before the phenomenal low tides happen again today.  BTW that was a small tarpon as they get about twice that size and I think you are correct CG since the guy had no fish in his hand and his arm was wrapped and ready.  What a jerk (pun intended).

    Well said, Matt Taylor... (none / 0) (#15)
    by kdog on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 09:19:23 AM EST
    Don't let Wall St. fellating multi-millionaire Democrats play the poverty card to sucker a vote out of ya.  Actions speak louder than hollow tales of meager beginnings and a less flush past.

    OK, this is ridiclulous (none / 0) (#41)
    by ruffian on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 12:53:13 PM EST
    NBC News paid Chelsea Clinton 600k per yer. All news media salaries drive me to distraction. Maybe because I rarely watch TV news anymore. I cannot fathom what anchors or talking heads do that is worth that much.

    Ya got it twisted Ruff... (none / 0) (#45)
    by kdog on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 01:42:34 PM EST
    GE/NBC did not pay for Chelsea's journalism...they bought a future favor from President H.R. Clinton.  Ain't what ya know... is the way of the world.

    yeah....sad but true (none / 0) (#47)
    by ruffian on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 01:53:38 PM EST
    Glad I so rarely watch NBC that their advertisers only got my eyeballs for maybe 5 minutes during that period.

    And the answer is.... (none / 0) (#49)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 01:58:14 PM EST

    And there is no way they can relate to what Jane and Joe is going through.

    And that includes ALL of them.


    The worlds very first (none / 0) (#43)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 01:33:17 PM EST
    WHY are you... (none / 0) (#69)
    by unitron on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 09:31:09 PM EST
    ...very conservative?

    (gotta start somewhere)

    You can start by discussing issues, not labels. (none / 0) (#70)
    by Mr Natural on Fri Jun 13, 2014 at 09:35:11 PM EST

    Time lapse star explosion (none / 0) (#105)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 06:40:39 PM EST
    Wow... amazing. (none / 0) (#111)
    by desertswine on Sat Jun 14, 2014 at 10:09:35 PM EST
    To CaptHowdy re Dexter (none / 0) (#118)
    by ruffian on Sun Jun 15, 2014 at 05:58:35 PM EST
    from the Sunday WC thread.....

    Did not mean to hijack the World Cup thread with my entertainment musings.  Just killing time till the GoT season finale tonight!

    Maybe I'm not remembering my reaction correctly, but it think I would have been fine with the Dexter finale if they had left off that last lumberjack scene, if they had left it open needed whether he lived or died, I could have accepted it. (I was not a critic of the Sopranos ending).  In this case with him definitely alive I think it  almost becomes too tempting for them too attempt a lame sequel at some point..

    I have  'The Mountain and  the Viper ' episode of GoT on....I think I could listen to Sansa say 'that moon door' 100 times. Love her accent in that speech to the elders.

    Ha (none / 0) (#119)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jun 15, 2014 at 06:06:19 PM EST
    Yes I'm watching too.  

    Have you seen Hannibal at all?  I keep getting hammered on FB that I should be watching.  I was googling and I'm starting to agree.  They don't make it easy.   On two appear n on demand.

    'Fargo' vs. 'Hannibal': Which drama's greatness is more improbable?

    'Hannibal' Is The Best TV Show That No One Is Watching


    I didn't watch Hannibal either (none / 0) (#120)
    by ruffian on Sun Jun 15, 2014 at 07:03:07 PM EST
    I'll add it to my summer list with The Americans. It seemed like I would like it since I like all the various Hannibal books and movies. Just ran out of TV time.

    Gees I hope we have seen the last of The Wall this season.


    Heh (none / 0) (#121)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jun 15, 2014 at 07:08:51 PM EST
    The blurb on dish says, "Circumstances change after an unexpected arrival from north of the wall."

    Aaaargh. Hope they make it quick unless (5.00 / 1) (#122)
    by ruffian on Sun Jun 15, 2014 at 07:16:11 PM EST
    the visitor is named Stark. This morning my dog park friend and I agreed that hat we felt like we had not really seen an episode in 2 weeks.

    My other fun in re- watching hat trial by combat - Jaime's look of enjoyment through most of it, like he is at a World Cup game.


    Yes, he was absorbing it (none / 0) (#123)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Jun 15, 2014 at 07:30:24 PM EST
    Like a spa bath.

    AVClub (none / 0) (#159)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jun 16, 2014 at 02:07:10 PM EST
    But Daenerys and Arya and Brienne and Cersei survive "The Children" and season four, an intriguing statement on feminine power within Game Of Thrones that's only slightly undercut by Tyrion strangling Shae to death. (The more I think about it, the more Tyrion's mini revenge flick becomes the part of "The Children" that sits least comfortably with me. It's payoff, but it's tawdry payoff that's lit and shot like a much cheaper show than Game Of Thrones.) At the end of a season when certain events in certain septs contributed to the Seven Kingdoms' He-Man Woman Haters' Club vibe, it's heartening to see that much of Dany's new world is made in her image. She must make compromises that wind up making her look like a leader in the old world, but the scenes in Meereen tonight show just how far the character has come and how she's grown into her responsibilities and duties. The Dany of seasons two or three would not be so flexible, would be too blinded by her vision and her desires to even consider putting the dragons in chains. There's an acceptance there--and a strength, mirrored by the way Brienne beats the snot out of The Hound--lacking in other pretenders to the Iron Throne. (The difficulty of the situation is written all over Emilia Clarke's face, an impressive emotional display toward creatures that are just 1s and 0s in some faraway computer.) The decision to not do the thing that would bring her the most satisfaction is in Arya's refusal to grant Sandor Clegane's final wish, too--because there are other people to consider. Westeros is a world without mercy, but that doesn't mean it's a place without compassion.

    But it is, for the time being, a place without conclusion. There's a sense of optimistic possibility that permeates the end of "The Children," one that doesn't square with the ravages of season four but still manages to send the show into hiatus on an appropriate note. So much of these episodes revolved around clearing the show's slate, an act referenced, intentionally or not, by the waterfall that transitions out of Tyrion's escape and into Arya's passage to Braavos. .  

    In defense of Tyrion.... (5.00 / 1) (#160)
    by ruffian on Mon Jun 16, 2014 at 03:45:14 PM EST
    Shae tried to stab him first. He was not going in seeking revenge on her, but some kind of 'chat' with his father. No telling if he would have killed Tywin without the added insult of finding Shae in his bed.

    I did like the juxtaposition of the images of Dany's face, first the pride as she was listening to her aide call off her many names (Stormborn, Mother of Dragons, Breaker of Chains etc ), and then later the devastation as she chained the dragons. I wish she had more interaction with characters that she was not making pronouncements too. I miss Jorah for that.


    No defense of Tyrion (none / 0) (#161)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jun 16, 2014 at 03:48:08 PM EST
    Needed here.  IMO she got exactly what she deserved.  

    Interesting that the guy left out (none / 0) (#162)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jun 16, 2014 at 03:49:53 PM EST
    Sansa.  Who more than any other female seems to be taking control of her life after a lifetime of servitude

    15 minutes to the season finale of GoT (none / 0) (#124)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Jun 15, 2014 at 07:46:03 PM EST
    I soaped and bleached the giant front porch today.  The things that grow on your bricks and concrete down here.  Enthusiasm waned before I tackled the walk and the landscaping stones around the flower beds.  What a sucky job awaits me tomorrow, but husband says I can take the vehicles in and make someone else do that.  I never thought I would agree to have someone else clean up my stuff, but that has arrived.

    Nice glass of wine, entertain me!

    WELL! (5.00 / 2) (#125)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jun 15, 2014 at 09:08:58 PM EST
    That was pretty much everything a finale should be.



    Yes, it was great! (5.00 / 1) (#141)
    by ruffian on Mon Jun 16, 2014 at 07:59:41 AM EST
    Looking forward to stone cold Arya's inevitable ascent to head of The Iron Bank.

    I really had no idea how that Hound v Brienne fight would turn out. On this show you never know.  It was very exciting.

    Same with Tyrion's last scenes...I guess I knew he wouldn't just walk out the door. I thought he was going into Cersei's room.  Slate's Dan Kois on the Shae ending: "Such is the problematic nature of Game of Thrones that I feel thankful for the small favor that at least they let her keep her top on while she got strangled."

    Jaime - can we all agree he needs to be replaced as Commander of the Guard? Really bad at it.


    I knew everything that was going to happen (none / 0) (#142)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jun 16, 2014 at 09:49:28 AM EST
    In the episode except for the Brienne/Hound fight.  Booksters was that in the books?  I thought it was every but as good as the Viper/mountain fight.  
    Jamie is officially redeemed.  Just sorry we have to wait a year to see the look on Cercis face.
    And Stanis resurgent certainly changes things.  Especially with the old man gone.
    As some one else said the Red Woman creeps me out.  I hope she is one of Aryas first targets.  I know she is on the list.

    All in all a pretty lousy Fathers Day for Tywin (5.00 / 2) (#143)
    by ruffian on Mon Jun 16, 2014 at 10:04:35 AM EST
    Fathers on this show do not fare well in general though.

    Looked to me like the Red Woman was setting her sites on new blood, so to speak. Did she give up on that other Snow kid already?


    Also (5.00 / 1) (#145)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jun 16, 2014 at 10:11:13 AM EST
    If the dragons are uncontrollable what does that mean for the mother.  One thing for sure the two chained up aren't going to take it well.

    And when the old man told Bran he would fly did he mean the raven or some thg else?


    Bran is a warg (5.00 / 1) (#174)
    by ZtoA on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 11:42:05 AM EST
    Actually a super warg who can warg into even a human at will. I think he will be trained how to warg into a dragon.

    I don't think Bran flies on a dragon (none / 0) (#166)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 09:23:21 AM EST
    But who knows with this story :). As much that can be known about Bran at this time, he is of the Stark line and considered descended from the first men.  The Starks prayed to the old Gods and meditated at the Weirwood in their garden at Winterfell, but it was sort of out of habit of tradition.  There were many references made in the story, that when having a bad day, a Stark at the Weirwood tree would be comforted by the tradition of it but they did not know what this Old God faith was really about.  That knowledge had been lost.

    What about (none / 0) (#167)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 09:30:25 AM EST
    The Brenne Hound fight?
    In the book?  What I read suggested he died from infection.

    When I watched it with my husband (none / 0) (#168)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 09:40:13 AM EST
    (We do that on the phone). He said that if Brienne was killed, that's it, he isn't 't watching it anymore.  I never liked the Hound on film.  I could almost develop a weird respect for him in the reading, but embodied, oh hell no.  What a dirty dog!

    How about that last guttural scream to get her over the top in pounding him down?  You go girl!  When the Hound kicked her my husband shouted OMG he kicked her in the.........but he couldn't finish the sentence.


    Mercury is truly in retrograde (5.00 / 1) (#169)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 09:45:09 AM EST
    One of my facebook friends (5.00 / 1) (#170)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 09:53:13 AM EST
    Who loves to knit and crochet put up a joke pattern yesterday for the mercury in retrograde body sock...or some such thing.  It came with a photo that looked like a knitted body sack and it enveloped the wearers head too, left a knitted tunnel in front of the face.  I suppose that was for tunnel vision :)

    Hey (5.00 / 1) (#173)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 09:59:46 AM EST
    What a war cry that was! (5.00 / 1) (#176)
    by ZtoA on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 11:45:18 AM EST
    She fights clean. She fights dirty. She triumphs!

    And it was an excellent deviation (none / 0) (#171)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 09:56:55 AM EST
    Whoever is doing the screen writing, fine job finding those opportunities and making the most of them.  Everyone is awake watching this :)

    That's what I thought (5.00 / 1) (#172)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 09:59:24 AM EST
    It played way better.  I don't think Breanne is dead.  However, she was just cast in the new Star Wars movie. So......

    There's yet another new Star Wars movie? (5.00 / 1) (#175)
    by ZtoA on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 11:43:36 AM EST
    What is dead can never die.

    There is indeed (none / 0) (#177)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 11:53:46 AM EST
    It should be amazing.  Directed by J J Abrams, the director of the new Star Trek reboots and the best action director working today, and the whole cast 30 years later along with Brieanne and Lupita Nyongo of 12years a slave and who knows who else.

    Star Wars VII


    I have to admit of being a Star Trek fan (none / 0) (#180)
    by ZtoA on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 12:56:21 PM EST
    just the original series tho with Kirk and Spock. I never liked that empath lady - or whatever she was - on a later version, or Data. He always annoyed me and I was not sad to see him go in Independence Day.

    Have you seen either of the two new (none / 0) (#183)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 05:49:02 PM EST
    Star Trek movies?  The are very very good.  And I love the original more that anyone.  And the have Kirk and Spock.  Actually they have two Spocks.  The new and the old thanks two a time rift I could only tell you about with a spoiler which I won't because its brilliant and awsum.

    I will say this, what more brilliant way to relaunch a series than to change history so none of the old truths and limitations apply.


    BTW (none / 0) (#178)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 12:17:54 PM EST
    Dang (none / 0) (#179)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 12:21:55 PM EST
    Who believed the same director would be doing Star Wars & Star Trek.  The Ts & Ws get all mixed up.

    I'll say one thing (none / 0) (#144)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jun 16, 2014 at 10:08:11 AM EST
    The actor who plays the red woman was an inspired bit if casting.

    I loved Arya at sea (none / 0) (#127)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Jun 15, 2014 at 09:13:04 PM EST
    Arya,Tyrion and Varys (none / 0) (#128)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jun 15, 2014 at 09:14:42 PM EST
    At sea.

    And the poor dragons.


    Drogon is on the loose though (none / 0) (#130)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Jun 15, 2014 at 09:18:46 PM EST
    ZtoA has always been very Varys perceptive.

    Most of all I loved (5.00 / 2) (#131)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jun 15, 2014 at 09:21:51 PM EST
    The old man getting in in the john.  He was so sure he was going to slime his way out of it.

    They really hit on (5.00 / 1) (#133)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Jun 15, 2014 at 09:25:22 PM EST
    "I wasn't going to kill you, you are my son, you're a Lannister."  And then with an arrow in, "You're no son of mine!"

    Josh facially looks very similar like the actor (none / 0) (#132)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Jun 15, 2014 at 09:22:55 PM EST
    That plays Bran.  We all noticed it the first season, and neither one of them had the adult bridge in their nose yet.  When it came in they both got a bit of a bump on the beak :)

    GOT jokes (5.00 / 1) (#135)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jun 15, 2014 at 09:41:40 PM EST
    10. How many Starks does it take to change a light bulb? Nine: one to get executed, one to marry a dwarf, one to dress like a boy, two to get lost up north, and the rest to get horribly massacred at a wedding.

    9. What is Robb Stark's favorite soup? Italian Wedding Massacre.


    Handsome guy! (none / 0) (#138)
    by ZtoA on Sun Jun 15, 2014 at 10:38:36 PM EST
    I expect Fargo (none / 0) (#146)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jun 16, 2014 at 10:13:21 AM EST
    To be almost as good.

    I'm actually looking forward to the final season of True Blood starting next week.  I have gotten deeply into it.  


    Seven hells!!! A+ (5.00 / 1) (#137)
    by ZtoA on Sun Jun 15, 2014 at 10:37:01 PM EST
    So great!

    I do so love Varys. Littlefinger says he thrives in chaos and makes his moves in chaos. Varys can use and surf on chaos, but there is a difference between them to me. I think Littlefinger's final goal is to sit on the throne himself, but Varys wants something very different. But what? (I have my theories)

    Of all the characters the Red Woman creeps me out the most. She is not outright mad or sadistic like others are. Is she rethinking her ultimate support of Stannis after seeing Joh?

    Great fight between Brienne and the Hound, and I was sad to see him go. The actor played him so well! with humanity and humor and even honor.

    the CGI was wonderful and I loved meeting the Children and whoever that was under the tree.

    I'm glad they did not end the season with Tywin getting it on the privy. That was fun to watch, but seeing Arya off to sea and free of family (as far as she knows) and heading in her direction was such a great ending.


    BTW I've read many theories about (5.00 / 1) (#139)
    by ZtoA on Mon Jun 16, 2014 at 12:09:08 AM EST
    Varys motives and don't agree with any of them (but, what do I know?). They are all about who/what family he wants to take the throne.

    I think he is motivated by religion, or rather from a hatred of the fanatical religion of the Red woman - the Lord of Light. It's a dualistic religion, and extreme, admitting only the one god of light and all other forms of religious gods and worshipers are considered demons and heretics who should all be burned to death.  Actually at the time of the wars of the roses there were many deaths of heretics in England - often women who for a while after the crusades were actually allowed to own property and got too powerful and were declared witches. 2-9 million (very hard for historians to document) women were killed in 1-3 centuries and that restored the patriarchy that has previously been dominant. It also established the 'new god' and church. The 'old gods' of the times - the wiccans mainly - were declared demons and were slaughtered.

    He often says how he fears and hates these fanatics and that he was cut with the dark magic coming from that religion. He apparently does not hate all magic, at least in the forms of dragons, or north of the wall, so it is not simply magic he abhors. So I think he is motivated by fear and hatred of that "voice that answered" out of the fire when he was cut, and his real war is not for something, but against that voice and all it represents to him. That's my theory at least.


    Clearly Varys plans did not include (none / 0) (#147)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jun 16, 2014 at 10:16:34 AM EST
    Tyrions freelancing.  Loved the Oh sh!t  look when the bells started tolling.  It was as close to an expression change as you will ever see from him.
    And him sitting, sort of resigned, on the boat.  Priceless.

    He didn't look all that surprised tho (none / 0) (#148)
    by ZtoA on Mon Jun 16, 2014 at 11:03:44 AM EST
    and he had one of his disguises very handy.

    BTW what do you - oh one who has read further into the books than any commenter currently commenting on GoT - think of my theory that Varys supports the Ts or a family related to the Ts and is motivated by hate of the Red Woman's religion?


    Heh (none / 0) (#149)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jun 16, 2014 at 11:34:33 AM EST
    I believe you over state my insight.   That would be a question for someone who has read the books not the internet spoilers.

    But Varys has made it clear he would very much like to sit on he iron throne.  Honestly I think Varys motives could be called unknown unknowns.


    He may want to but he cannot father children (none / 0) (#150)
    by ZtoA on Mon Jun 16, 2014 at 11:57:13 AM EST
    if, indeed, he is actually a eunuch. It would be cool if that all was a deception, he was actually a member of the Ts or close relative of the family and personally aspired to the throne, and fully able to further his family line.

    I'll have to read the next book while I wait for the series. Now I need to get into some other series, I may pick back up with Breaking Bad since I stopped watching after that woman killed her man with the ATM machine. House of Cards is great too. Fargo seems interesting from what people here have said - is there lots of contemporary completely believable violence?  


    Define "lots" (5.00 / 1) (#151)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jun 16, 2014 at 12:04:20 PM EST
    And define 'completely believable' (none / 0) (#163)
    by ruffian on Mon Jun 16, 2014 at 03:50:31 PM EST
    There certainly is 'lots' by my definition! Believable, on the other hand....maybe up until the point he took out that whole office under the noses of Key and Peele.

    Also (none / 0) (#152)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jun 16, 2014 at 12:06:33 PM EST
    Does contemporary mean you are ok with axes but not ATMs?

    strangely, yes (none / 0) (#153)
    by ZtoA on Mon Jun 16, 2014 at 12:43:13 PM EST
    I know it's very odd, but sword violence (or any bladed weapon) is something I can watch and not take too seriously. Guns and ATMs on the other hand fry my brain cells. If I watch fiction I want to know and see beyond any doubt it is not real and I can get some distance from it. Otherwise I get a very strong physical reaction, almost like a panic attack.  

    Note: when Brienne and the Hound fight, after they dispense with the 'nice and proper' fighting notice that she goes in close to fight. It is such a woman's instinct to fight in close. She can maneuver and their relative physical strengths are equalized. Great fight choreography.  


    Gun violence is also very loud in (5.00 / 1) (#164)
    by ruffian on Mon Jun 16, 2014 at 03:54:37 PM EST
    movies and TV shows. That makes it a lot more visceral to me. GoT is good with the sound effects of and choreography of punching and fighting - it all makes me slightly traumatized. That Brienne -v Hound fight was very well done, as you said. Seemed very realistic to me.

    Also guns do not involve much "art" (none / 0) (#185)
    by ZtoA on Wed Jun 18, 2014 at 12:39:56 AM EST
    well, maybe they do, but not in the way a truly trained martial artist does - years and years and decades and decades - who's art always involves trying to back down from or de-escalate from a fight. Mostly is it self defense. My favorite weapon is the sai which was developed purely as self defense against swords. They also served as farm implements. The expert use of guns almost always ends with a close or long distance kill. Maybe some may think that does not affect the person doing the killing, but from the PTSD of soldiers - even drone operators, tells a different story. Killing is always personal.

    I could not imagine a gun film like Jackie Chan's drunken master (comedy), or Jet Li's Fearless. (thanks to my nephew again) Both include a deep knowing/learning of what their actions will do and I never see that in gun movies, but I never see those movies so I don't know them. I think it happens in real life.

    Jet Li's Fearless is a wonderful movie. He performs a kata in the middle of the movie and it is shown in slow motion. It is, to me, more beautiful than any dance or other athletic movement I've ever seen. It is not only athletic (like dance has to be or any sport) but is imbued with all the ideas of being able to kill but not killing.


    That's...fascinating (none / 0) (#155)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jun 16, 2014 at 12:52:37 PM EST
    You probably won't make it past the first episode of Fargo.

    good to know (none / 0) (#156)
    by ZtoA on Mon Jun 16, 2014 at 12:59:09 PM EST
    I saw Blood Simple in a small theater on a very hot Sacramento night on a date many years ago, and the only seats available were in the front row. Afterwards I was in actual shock - full on traumatic paralysis, and I had to pretend like it was nothing. I remember each detail of the post movie for hours, but not the movie tho. I very very rarely go to theaters now, and not by choice. Only when some young relative forces me to and then only for fantasy.

    In the book (none / 0) (#186)
    by ZtoA on Wed Jun 18, 2014 at 12:42:38 AM EST
    Varys sends Tyrion up a long ladder up to where the entrance is to the Hand's chambers are. If he didn't want anything to happen then he would never have done that. I'm sure he knew Shea would be there and that Tyrion would find her. But the show does not strictly follow the books.

    I used (none / 0) (#126)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Jun 15, 2014 at 09:09:01 PM EST
    to have to do that when I lived in Central Georgia. The stuff that would grown on the the foundation. Ugh.

    We used to power wash the walkways.


    I have to use bleach when I power wash (none / 0) (#129)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Jun 15, 2014 at 09:17:18 PM EST
    Them or I just can't get through all the black mold and mildew, they come out striped looking.  I'm going to see tomorrow if bleach and the jet from the hose will do it instead of hooking up the power washer.

    Yes, we (none / 0) (#140)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Jun 16, 2014 at 05:55:16 AM EST
    had to use bleach when power washing too.

    Hey, Miami Heat, can you say ... (none / 0) (#134)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Jun 15, 2014 at 09:34:42 PM EST
    ... "NBA champion San Antonio Spurs" -- or are you choking on that, too?

    With 5:00 to go in Game 5, it's 94-74, you know who. Talk about your high-payrolled face-plants!

    Congratulations to the Spurs. (none / 0) (#136)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Jun 15, 2014 at 10:12:48 PM EST
    The oldest team in the NBA rolled back the clock with a truly dominant performance in the NBA Finals, throttling the Heat for San Antonio's fifth championship, all under Coach Greg Popovich, who deserves to be considered one of the league's all-time great coaches.

    For those who live in Seattle (none / 0) (#154)
    by ZtoA on Mon Jun 16, 2014 at 12:47:44 PM EST
    and like art, the Seattle Art Museum is opening a show on "Modernism in the North West" opening on June 19. I am very familiar with the work of all of these artists and the show will be fantastic. I may have to go up to Seattle to see it.

    Seattle Times, by Michael Upchurch link

    If you're not very far away, ... (none / 0) (#181)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 04:30:15 PM EST
    ... and since you're a former Seattle resident, then why not? Plus, the Seattle Art Museum is a real gem, and a great place to spend an afternoon.

    There are several very nice galleries too (none / 0) (#182)
    by ZtoA on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 05:17:43 PM EST
    and the Olympic Sculpture Park is wonderful. A favorite artist of mine has a new installation there, Ginny Ruffner. There's a trinket store at the Pike Place Market which has hordes of tiny animals crammed onto glass shelves which I always seem to visit too. I'm happy the SAM decided to have a NW show from their stacks. Their break off Asian museum is great too.  

    There is a wonderful Sorolla exhibit (none / 0) (#184)
    by oculus on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 10:08:42 PM EST
    on now at SDMA here.

    Hilarious (none / 0) (#157)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jun 16, 2014 at 01:48:15 PM EST
    Ultra Violet (none / 0) (#158)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jun 16, 2014 at 01:53:56 PM EST
    Happy 535th birthday Mona Lisa (none / 0) (#165)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jun 16, 2014 at 05:25:56 PM EST
    Well, yesterday.

    you don't look a day over 30

    No street bears her name. No plaques mark where she lived. Although her mysterious smile has enchanted millions, Lisa Gherardini, born on June 15, 1479, is almost invisible in her hometown. After centuries of neglect, Florence is celebrating the 535th birthday of its most famous daughter with a festival this month. But who was the real woman everyone recognizes yet no one knows?

    Mona (Madame) Lisa Gherardini descended from an ancient clan of Tuscan knights who lorded over a wide swath of Chianti before taking up residence (and arms) within the walls of Florence. The family -- among the wealthiest and most bellicose feudal warlords -- referred to their fierce temperament as Gherardiname or "Gherardini-ness."

    By the time of Lisa's birth, the Gherardini glory had faded. Her first home was a converted wool shop on a squalid street in a working class neighborhood. Lisa's family eventually moved to rented rooms off Via Ghibellina, where her grandparents lived just steps away from Ser Piero da Vinci, father of the renowned artist.