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Upcoming Site Changes

[Bump and Update from Friday. Thanks to those of you who donated over the weekend, I'll be sending thank you e-mails later this week.]

New Years is always the time I re-assess blogging. Should I continue? Have I been doing this too long? (TalkLeft has been publishing daily for 11 1/2 years.) Should I keep paying hundreds of dollars a month for a dedicated server? Should I pay thousands on a professionally done site overhaul to get it off Scoop and onto Wordpress or another blogging platform? Should I go back to taking ads or start charging for full, premium access? Should I keep the site as is but invest in making a mobile version of the site, compatible with mobile devices?

I've finally made a few tentative decisions. I want to keep blogging. I don't want to charge people for reading the site or clutter the site with ads. I want to be done with Scoop and move to Wordpress. I want to be able to write using easy to read Google-type fonts. I want to stop having to check for spammer registrations every few days. I don't want to keep paying hundreds of dollars a month to keep the site going.

So changes are coming, here's what's in store: [More....]

Very shortly, I will begin posting on Wordpress, using the premium site I set up last year, which will be moved to TalkLeft.com so the web address doesn't change. You can view it here. (Keep in mind I've ignored it for months, so it will be freshened up and may not look exactly the same as it does now.)

How I decided this: As I was designing and setting up Marijuana Laws the past few weeks, I realized just how outdated this site has become since 2002, when it began. It is also too loaded down. There are well over 1 million comments as of this week, and 11 years' worth of posts.

What remains to be seen is whether I start fresh with the Wordpress version, and just flatten and close this Scoop version of TalkLeft, moving it and the Duke and Z. forums to a shared server at a fraction of the current hosting cost, or attempt to have the many thousands of posts here imported to the Wordpress version, so there is just one complete version of TalkLeft.

The answer to that question, in great part, is up to readers. Since there no longer is ad revenue and I don't want to charge for reading, reader donations are essential to cover the cost of importing the posts here into Wordpress. Colin, our webmaster, thinks it can be done. (There's no guarantee.)

For the past several years, I have asked for reader donations for the site about twice a year. It's been 7 months since I last asked, so it's time.

As regular readers of this site know, I took a hiatus from blogging from October to Christmas, just posting open threads so readers could continue to communicate with each other. Obviously, site traffic sharply declined because of it, so there are fewer people who will see this message. That makes it more important that those who are still here and appreciate TalkLeft contribute now. Otherwise, there certainly won't be sufficient funds to merge the sites, and there will be a TalkLeft archive site and a new site.

Some other things you should now:

1. Either way, I intend to eliminate comments posted before 2011, keeping only those from 2011 through 2013. There's just no reason to keep the site bogged down with more than a million comments. (I last purged comments in 2006 or 2007.) If you want to preserve your comments, you should start reviewing them and saving those you want to your hard drive now.

2. You have to re-register your screen name at the new site. User registrations can't be transferred. To compensate for the inconvenience, if in the future I decide to charge for premium access, I will give all those who register before the site moves to Wordpress a free pass for at least a year. Since the Wordpress site has been up for months, you can register there now.

Some advantages to readers once I start posting on the Wordpress version:

  • You can subscribe to comments on any particular post, being notified when new ones are posted on a thread you are interested in.
  • While I still discourage it, you can post url's in comments without using html. They won't skew the site as they do here.
  • There will be virtually zero spam, as I have Akismet, Stop Spammers and Wangguard installed on it. I can also block user registrations by country. Thousands of attempts have been blocked and none have gotten through since since the wordpress site went up last year.
  • There will be no comment-rating system. There's also a plugin I'm looking at where I can put specific users on comment probation. That would avoid my having to entirely ban those users who forget that personal insults aren't allowed here.
  • The site has a responsive layout, which means it will display nicely on your desktop, laptop and mobile device. The fonts are also larger and much easier to read.
  • There is the option, if I decide to do it, of including forums on the main site. With forums, readers can start their own discussions without concern for being "off-topic". They can also "private-message" each other, and if they want, share their contact info or thoughts with one or more other users. (The forum decision also depends on donations, as styling them is a huge project which will consume a lot of my time and probably some paid expert assistance. The same is true for incorporating the existing Duke and Z. forums into the site.)
As to whether the site will be just me and almost exclusively related to crime, civil liberties and major elections and legislative initiatives, or whether Big Tent Democrat will return to regular posting, of course I hope so, but that's up to him. He says he will continue his sports posting here, and he will write on other topics when he has something to say and has the time. In other words, he'll write here when he feels like it. I know a lot of readers wish he would post more. My suggestion to them is that when he does post, readers leave positive comments, or at least thoughtful ones, and if they disagree with him, they do it without personally attacking him. No one wants to spend an hour or more writing a post only to have their views attacked or challenged with false information, or their remarks misinterpreted by a string of commenters.

So for this new year, the direction of TalkLeft is largely up to readers. I will keep blogging, I still have lots to say about the topics and cases I'm interested in. But I do view reader response to my donation requests as a measure of appreciation for the time and effort I put into blogging, and response to this request for donations could well affect the frequency and depth of my blogging. (Translation: If almost no one donates, I'm not going to feel obliged to blog multiple times a day, or perhaps even daily.) Big Tent Democrat will join in when he wants to, regardless of donations.

It hasn't mattered to me for a long time how many readers we have, since traffic stats are mostly useful for ad purposes, and I'm keeping the site ad-free and access-free for now. But personal funding of the site is another matter, and I'm not willing to keep paying thousands of dollars a year in hosting or professional web developer fees, when I can flatten this site and keep it for posterity at a shared server at almost no cost, and do the same with a new and fresh Wordpress version of the site.

If you'd like to donate, you can do so at the links below. You don't need a Paypal account, you can use a credit card. Or you can use the links on the right hand side of the site. All amounts, even a few dollars, are welcome, and please don't give more than you can comfortably afford.

Happy New Year to all of you, and thanks especially to those of you who kept the conversation going here during my hiatus. If you have questions, post them in comments and I'll try to answer. Constructive suggestions are also welcome.

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    I registered (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by the capstan on Fri Jan 03, 2014 at 09:56:37 PM EST
    but I hope that the layout is not too different from this:  I have visual problems that mean finding my way around new stuff is difficult.  I took a look at the new site--obviously can read your posts.  Comments?  We will see, I suppose.

    Why archive any comments? (5.00 / 3) (#4)
    by oculus on Fri Jan 03, 2014 at 11:52:01 PM EST


    Don't you want to be able to prove people wrong (5.00 / 3) (#28)
    by ruffian on Sun Jan 05, 2014 at 12:19:49 PM EST
    5 years later? :-)

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    All Sounds Good (5.00 / 3) (#5)
    by squeaky on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 12:53:03 AM EST
    Thanks Jeralyn for thinking about how to keep TL going so it works for both you and your readers/commenters (us).

    And keep up the great blogging!

    Site changes-all good (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by Politalkix on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 08:05:01 AM EST
    *The site has a responsive layout, which means it will display nicely on your desktop, laptop and mobile device. The fonts are also larger and much easier to read. Good

    *There will be no comment-rating system. Good


    Assuming BTD is considering again posting (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by oculus on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 12:36:23 PM EST
    His non-sports opinions here, perhaps a "no comments" feature could be made available for his discretionary use. . [This is not snark.]

    I'm not all that sure (none / 0) (#22)
    by NYShooter on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 11:15:07 PM EST
    That it's just the comments responding to his own posts that seem to aggravate him so much. He may just be scrolling around the site to get a flavor of what's going on, and, after reading some of the totally unnecessary, and combative posts some commenters seem to thrive on he just says, "yuch," and moves on.

    I do the same. I, probably, lurk 95% of the time when I sign on to TL. And, too often, there's no discussion, no debate, no conversation; it's just a cat fight between a couple of people, each determined to have the last word. They have no regard for the others signed on and seem to feel that if they can just come up with cleverest snark-flame everyone will jump up, applauding and demanding on encore. Instead, maybe BTD, like some of us others, just signs off.  


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    I don't know... (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by ZtoA on Sun Jan 05, 2014 at 12:48:52 AM EST
    It seems to me that there is debate. At least there is not mass agreement like there is on most sites. J and BTD censor when it is good for the site and for discussion which I appreciate. Mostly people commenting here agree in large part and that is what is so perplexing to me -- those who are usually allied on issues and politics fighting over, frankly, minor disagreements - and stupid ratings (not going to miss those). Wherever the overton window on this site is, the ones who are on the right of it don't seem to annoy, it is the ones who are to the left of it who seem to really get the ire. C'mon...big tent and all.

    I personally love this site. Love reading J's posts which have greatly opened up my thinking and BTD has an amazing mind and I always am greatly interested in what he has to say. Jeralyn's posts have importance way beyond her fields of interests - when she puts it out there many parts of society are impacted. Wish I had more to donate.

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    Well, regarding your comment (none / 0) (#24)
    by NYShooter on Sun Jan 05, 2014 at 01:11:01 AM EST
    there is no debate;

    I agree with everything you said.

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    Hmmm (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by Angel on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 12:42:19 PM EST
    I tried to register at the premium site but it tells me my username is already registered.  Is there someone else posting under my username, or does that mean I registered a while back and I'm still in good standing with my chosen username?  Can anyone help? Thanks.

    You may have (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by Zorba on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 03:19:57 PM EST
    registered there before.  Put in your username, and hit the "forgot password?" or "reset password" button, whichever one they have, then give them your username or your email and they will send you a link to change your password.
    Alternatively, are you registered with WordPress already?  If so, I would imagine that you use your current WordPress information.

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    Thanks, I logged into WordPress and it (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by Angel on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 03:28:36 PM EST
    recognized me.  Appreciate the help!

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    And thank you, as well, Angel (none / 0) (#16)
    by Zorba on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 04:19:39 PM EST
    I hadn't logged in yet over there, but since I have had a WordPress account for several years, I used that log-in information, myself.
    I figured that it was a good bet.  WordPress is WordPress, after all.  Just as my Disqus account is good across all the different Disqus websites, WordPress works the same way.
    And have a wonderful 2014, my sister.   :-)

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    Happy New Year to you, sista! (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by Angel on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 08:24:20 PM EST
    Thanks for the update, J (5.00 / 4) (#13)
    by Dadler on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 03:16:24 PM EST
    And extra thanks, as always, for the time and effort you put in. Always appreciated. I just tossed a few sawbucks into TL kitty, hope it helps.

    You've created a sweet little intellectual haven here, IMHO. Sure it gets heated sometimes, but it's mostly free American passions or very mild "that's what your mama said" level stuff. Even with that, TL is so much more heady and mature than any other site you could find when it comes to posts and comments combined. So, once again, I tip my cap to you.

    Peace.

    Me too... (none / 0) (#26)
    by lentinel on Sun Jan 05, 2014 at 06:06:55 AM EST
    I just tossed my shekels into the kitty.
    As you have said Dadler, Jeralyn has created a unique haven here. Jeralyn's posts are filled with information, incredibly researched and documented.

    And I have become accustomed to read the reactions and posts of other members of this community and think of them as a family of sorts. I thank Jeralyn for that opportunity as well.

    Best wishes for the coming incarnation of TalkLeft.

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    Personally, (5.00 / 3) (#25)
    by lentinel on Sun Jan 05, 2014 at 05:49:50 AM EST
    I will miss the ratings system.

    Not so much because of the 1 to 5 scale, (I only rate 5s except for an occasional 1 for something out and out defamatory) but because it is the only way to acknowledge to someone that you have read and appreciated their post - without having to add a reply.

    It also is the only means to know if anyone has read something that you have posted yourself.

    Nevertheless, if it is to be shelved, so be it.

    Agreed. I feel that (5.00 / 2) (#30)
    by KeysDan on Sun Jan 05, 2014 at 01:37:03 PM EST
    the advantages of the rating system outweigh the disadvantages.  In large measure, the ratings are used judiciously, certainly enough so to counter those  mis-appications.  But, it seems we are in the  minority, and, like you, if it is to be shelved, that's OK with me.

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    I also agree with that comment (5.00 / 2) (#34)
    by Peter G on Sun Jan 05, 2014 at 03:24:28 PM EST
    Whether or not it is a true "ratings" system, I'd like to continue to have a way to say, "Well said; I agree; thanks for saying so," without having to add an entire (nonsubstantive) comment of my own.  And to be honest, when I do write a comment, I appreciate the support (generally) of those who take the time to rate it; it lets me know, at least, that folks have read it and thus that it was worth the effort I put into researching (soemtimes), writing and editing.

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    Please clarify re "generally." (none / 0) (#35)
    by oculus on Sun Jan 05, 2014 at 03:52:46 PM EST
    I said "generally" so as to recognize (5.00 / 1) (#36)
    by Peter G on Sun Jan 05, 2014 at 04:10:06 PM EST
    that not all comments or ratings by others on my own comments have been favorable. I think I have enjoyed a high ratio of favorable reactions from this community, but hardly unanimous.

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    Ok. Now I get it. I do wish you (5.00 / 3) (#38)
    by oculus on Sun Jan 05, 2014 at 05:21:17 PM EST
    would contribute feature posts.

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    I second that wish (none / 0) (#39)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Jan 05, 2014 at 05:36:20 PM EST
    In MLB (none / 0) (#91)
    by MKS on Mon Jan 06, 2014 at 10:14:12 PM EST
    a lifetime average of .400 gets you in the Hall of Fame.

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    And on the Road, a .08 (none / 0) (#92)
    by ScottW714 on Tue Jan 07, 2014 at 02:17:08 PM EST
    ...gets you thrown in jail and runs about $10k.

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    Rated this a 5 for agreement, just as you describe (none / 0) (#90)
    by ruffian on Mon Jan 06, 2014 at 07:19:37 PM EST
    and feel it's too often used in a childish manner.

    And the arguments some have over some other person's down-rating is a ridiculous way to chew up TL bandwidth.

    The day I discovered that I could disable the rating system in my settings, and the TL comments would then display on my screen without the bulky rating system appearing after each comment, was a happy day for me.

    So much cleaner and more efficient w/o them.

    I Agree, But... (3.00 / 1) (#55)
    by ScottW714 on Mon Jan 06, 2014 at 11:48:57 AM EST
    ...as mentioned below, a like/dislike or agree/disagree button would be nice.  And I gave you a 5 just because.

    I use it, but very sparingly and only '5' or nothing, pretty sure I never used the '1' and what is the point of giving someone 2,3,or 4.

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    I think there's also a lot of TL'rs (4.00 / 1) (#57)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Mon Jan 06, 2014 at 01:00:41 PM EST
    who are in the habit of seeing/using the rating system. So, for them, for a short time, it will seem weird to not have it.

    But, we humans adapt pretty quickly.

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    By the second paragraph... (none / 0) (#2)
    by unitron on Fri Jan 03, 2014 at 10:08:36 PM EST
    ...I was all set to ask how big a bribe it would take to keep from going over to WP, but I see that ship done sailed.  : - (

    All signed up at the new place. (none / 0) (#3)
    by caseyOR on Fri Jan 03, 2014 at 10:30:15 PM EST
    The changes sound interesting. I am so happy to see comment rating go.

    WordPress does not (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by Zorba on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 04:26:30 PM EST
    use comment ratings.  At least, none of the WordPress sites I have gone to for quite awhile, have ratings.
    If you agree or disagree, you have to make a comment and tell people so.    
    It will probably help.  But, OTOH, it may also lead to more back and forth arguments and sniping.  There are pluses and minuses on both sides.        ;-)

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    wordrpess has plugins (none / 0) (#18)
    by Jeralyn on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 05:59:56 PM EST
    with user ratings.

    I was searching for the comment modification box that adds a subject line for each comment like there is here, and the only one I can find also adds user ratings. I tried to modify it and crashed it.

    WP comments also don't have the buttons on top, and the plugins for them are pretty old.

    I also found one for a comment preview button but it covers the "post" button so you can't do it all in one screen.

    So comment ratings may or may not end up back here. On open threads particularly, a subject line for comments would be nice.

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    I wouldn't worry about it, Jeralyn (none / 0) (#19)
    by Zorba on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 06:26:51 PM EST
    It will be what it will be.  Your readers will get used to it.

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    I very much hope... (none / 0) (#20)
    by unitron on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 07:02:11 PM EST
    ...the the preview feature can be retained.

    The lack of it is one of my chief complaints against WP on other sites where WP is used, although I think it's not there because they use the "cheap" version.

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    I can live w/o comment ratings (none / 0) (#44)
    by Coral on Mon Jan 06, 2014 at 07:49:58 AM EST
    Thanks for continuing to blog, Jeralyn. This is one of my favorite sites. Registered at wordpress. Will add to the kitty this week.

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    Since the ratings... (none / 0) (#6)
    by unitron on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 06:40:36 AM EST
    ...to which I never paid any attention, messed with chronological layout, I'll be happier without them as well.

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    You can set your preferences (none / 0) (#8)
    by Coral Gables on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 08:40:29 AM EST
    to avoid that issue.

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    Go to (5.00 / 2) (#9)
    by Coral Gables on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 08:46:56 AM EST
    "Your Preferences"

    Where it says: "Unitron's  Email and Password User Info Interface Comments"...click on comments.

    Where it says: "Sorting based on comment ratings:"...change to ignore ratings


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    Happy New Year & Thank You! (none / 0) (#12)
    by robrecht on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 01:24:31 PM EST
    Happy New Year and thanks for blogging! If I understand the issues correctly, I wouldn't bother transferring older posts and comments to the new site and new format. Sounds like they will still be available in a much less expensive archive, which should serve most people's purposes.

    I have always appreciated your perspective and hope you will continue blogging.