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Who is the rabid dog, Jesse or Hank?

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    Trying to rescue some vestige of credibility (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by Edger on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 07:12:53 AM EST
    out of the steaming pile of bullsh*t that is all that's left of his presidency, obama is inviting none other than John McCain to the White House, hoping one of Congress' most intractable foreign policy hawks that he admires so much will help sell the idea of a U.S. military intervention in Syria to a nation deeply scarred by more than a decade of war that he's wants to lie to and scar even more to prove he qualifies to be viewed as serious.

    Obama seeks Syria support from former foe McCain

    Russia's foreign minister, Sergey Lavrov, said Monday the information the U.S. showed Moscow to prove the Syrian regime was behind the chemical attack was "absolutely unconvincing."

    "Yes, we were shown certain pieces of evidence that did not contain anything concrete - neither geographical locations, nor names, nor evidence that samples had been taken by professionals. Nor did they comment on the fact that numerous experts have serious doubts regarding the video footage circulating on the Internet," Lavrov said at the Moscow Foreign Relations University (MGIMO) on Monday.

    "There are plenty of contradictions and oddities, if we are speaking of footage of chemical weapons use and the condition of the victims," he said. "What we were shown before and recently by our American partners, as well as by the British and French, does not convince us at all," he said.

    "There are no facts, there is simply talk about what we definitely know. But when you ask for more detailed evidence, they say that it is all classified, therefore it cannot be shown to us. This means there are no such facts to encourage international cooperation," the minister added.

    Minister Lavrov has called the information provided to Russia by the US 'inconclusive'.

    "We were shown some sketches, but there was nothing concrete, no geographical coordinates or details... and no proof the test was done by professionals...

    AN AXE LENGTH AWAY, vol. 115 (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by Dadler on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 08:18:45 AM EST
    The toy wiener dog is, after all, is pretty damn small. (link)

    Volume 114

    Volume 113

    May you all have little to no labor this day. May relaxation stay for a good long visit.

    Ouch! (none / 0) (#26)
    by Zorba on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 12:38:08 PM EST
    Taking Lorena Bobbitt one step farther.    

    Labor Day special (none / 0) (#36)
    by Dadler on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 02:42:38 PM EST
    Damn straw bosses.

    Marie is the rabid dog. (5.00 / 2) (#22)
    by redwolf on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 12:20:41 PM EST
    She's willing to take her family down for no gain.  She should be calming Hank down and instead she spurning him on.  She's telling Walt to kill himself and thinking about ways of killing him.  She's made 2 attempts at kidnapping Walt's kids and has to know that Skyler is going down with Walt.  

    A rabid dog does what it does without reason.  She doesn't have a reason for her actions while everyone else does.

    Grape jelly! (none / 0) (#1)
    by Zorba on Sun Sep 01, 2013 at 08:15:06 PM EST
    Picked a bunch of our grapes today, juiced them, and made grape jelly.  Yum!

    In Pennsylvania (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by christinep on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 12:43:39 PM EST
    when I was a tyke of about 6 and 7, what warm and tasty memories of playing under the little grape arbor in our backyard.  Oh, the aroma ... even as I shut my eyes now, that freshest of pick-some-fresh-eating calls. Concords enveloped me.

    Home-made jelly. Yum.  Tell me (and this is a goofy question, Zorba, that we types in the city ask), but is there such a thing as white jelly from the white grapes?


    I don't know (5.00 / 1) (#38)
    by Zorba on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 03:25:00 PM EST
    I've never heard of making jelly with the white grapes (although why we call them "white" grapes I also don't know, since they're actually green).  I don't know why you couldn't, though.  Especially if you get them from your own grapes or a farmers' market, where they would tend to have more flavor than the store variety.
    We grow Concords, and two varieties of red grapes whose names I forget, but they're all great.

    I have a steamer-juicer, which makes all kinds of jelly-making much easier than the old "crush the grapes, heat the grapes, and hang them in a bag to drip" method, and is tons faster.  I'll use the steamer-juicer a bit later in the year to make quince juice for quince jelly, too.

    Right now, I'm caramelizing some onions to make flat bread-caramelized onion appetizers to go with the salmon fillets I'm marinating that we'll grill outside, the corn on the cob from the farmers' market, also to be grilled, and a tomato salad from our garden tomatoes.


    I've been holding back on the grapes . . . (none / 0) (#9)
    by nycstray on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 12:16:51 AM EST
    but the harvest is in full swing here, so I'll prob be breaking down this weekend. There's one guy at the market that has the best Concords . . .

    So much fresh fruit, so little time . . . life could be worse :)


    Make Ice Cream (5.00 / 2) (#19)
    by squeaky on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 11:08:26 AM EST
    We had the most amazon white peaches here at our farmers market..  So I now have gallons of the most delicious white peach ice cream..

    OHHHH! Thanks for that idea! (none / 0) (#28)
    by nycstray on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 12:57:45 PM EST
    We also have some delicious white peaches at the FM. I've put up quite a bit, but didn't think of ice cream. I did just stock up on cream/eggs/cane sugar, as ice cream is on my to do list, lol!~~ I might try a white peach and pink peppercorn combo for fall . . .

    Nice Cream.. (5.00 / 2) (#37)
    by squeaky on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 02:47:47 PM EST
    Coconut Palm sugar is nice to use, as it is low glycemic and tasty..

    And Invert sugar (trimoline) is best to use for the ice cream, as it makes for a smoother ice cream and cuts down on ice crystals in the final product. In case you do not have a ready source, here is a recipe to make your own invert sugar.

    Also this is a easy recipe for vanilla bean paste..

    For the fall...  I make chestnut, squash, sun choke and celeriac ice creams, and a nice spicy cranberry jalapeño sorbet.. for side dishes at thankgiving.. the chocolate, vanilla, vanilla and walnut ice creams are reserved for dessert.


    Thanks for the tips and links :) (none / 0) (#39)
    by nycstray on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 03:54:32 PM EST
    Spicy cranberry jalapeño sorbet sounds really good, and something at least my mom and I should try this year. My picky niece might actually go for it also. She's not always on board with expanding her food world, lol!~

    OMG! (none / 0) (#40)
    by Zorba on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 05:29:37 PM EST
    Chestnut ice cream!  We have two chestnut trees in the back yard, and I'm always looking for different ways to use chestnuts!
    And we have tons of butternut squash.  It would make a great ice cream, too, I'm sure.
    Thanks for all the suggestions.  They sound great!

    Yes (5.00 / 1) (#43)
    by squeaky on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 06:32:42 PM EST
    Chestnut icecream is really rich.. it is like potato so it has a really great thick texture..  quite delicious.. Squash was delicious too... I think nutmeg, and a bit of vanilla works well with squash ice cream.

    I found the sunchoke ice cream superb, but really labor intensive.
    And surprisingly no gas from it either. I think freezing mitigates the flatulence problem sun chokes are famous for.  Harold McGee wrote a fantastic essay about them in his book, The Curious Cook.  His blog is excellent as well..


    The Curious Cook blog (none / 0) (#44)
    by Zorba on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 08:02:39 PM EST
    is superb.  I bookmarked it.  Thanks, squeaky!    :-)

    Yes (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by squeaky on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 09:11:33 PM EST
    Harold McGee is quite the expert.. his book On Food and Cooking: The Science and Lore of the Kitchen, is a fascinating read, and a great resource...

    Here he is kickoff lecturer in the Harvard lecture series about food and science..

    and he is lecturing in the series this year, too


    Another food blog you might enjoy (5.00 / 1) (#46)
    by Yman on Tue Sep 03, 2013 at 10:01:51 AM EST
    Serious Eats.  They have some great ideas/recipes and some great articles in general.

    Yes (5.00 / 1) (#47)
    by squeaky on Tue Sep 03, 2013 at 10:37:03 AM EST
    Serious Eats is great...lots of good stuff there.. one of my all time recipes/methods is for Deep-Fried Sous-Vide 36-Hour All-Belly Porchetta.

    I use pork loin in the center, and cook at 143ºF for 48 hours, also play around with the spicing..  but the outcome, no matter what you do, is amazing...  It is waaaaaay too good to make more than once every other month..


    Thanks, Yman (5.00 / 1) (#48)
    by Zorba on Tue Sep 03, 2013 at 01:45:11 PM EST
    It looks great, too.
    And just what I needed, yet another nice food blog which will manage to suck up up even more of my time!       ;-)

    When I was in an diet and exercise (none / 0) (#49)
    by MO Blue on Tue Sep 03, 2013 at 01:59:02 PM EST
    program, one of the other participants described sites like the one the Yman recommended as "food porn." ;o)

    LOL! (none / 0) (#50)
    by Zorba on Tue Sep 03, 2013 at 02:07:44 PM EST
    They are, they are.  I have a whole folder of bookmarked food and recipe sites.  (OTOH, I have gotten some really great ideas from most of them.)      

    That cranberry sorbet sounds deliciious, (none / 0) (#41)
    by Anne on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 05:43:53 PM EST
    and a nice change from traditional cranberry sauce.

    Would you have a recipe you'd be willing to share, or a link one you'd recommend?


    Sort of Wing It (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by squeaky on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 06:20:10 PM EST
    but here are some relish recipes that I use as a guide.

    The mint is really good to use, and a little caramelized onion. I use coconut palm sugar, orange zest, red currant jelly, and fresh orange juice.. maybe a dash of lemon...  I let the mixture steep overnight, then freeze, then process into sorbet. The hot sweet, and the minty aftertaste is what makes it really good..


    The Latest. (none / 0) (#2)
    by Edger on Sun Sep 01, 2013 at 08:46:37 PM EST
    During a meeting with Cabinet-level officials at the White House Friday morning, sources confirmed that President Barack Obama threw up right in the middle of discussions regarding a U.S. military intervention in war-torn Syria. "He got really quiet and pale when we began to discuss plans for a unilateral strike on al-Assad's forces, but then [White House Chief of Staff] Denis McDonough mentioned the Muslim Brotherhood, and the president just puked right on the table,"


    At press time, Obama was reportedly sitting in the fetal position in a corner of the Oval Office as advisers frantically assured him that France is prepared to take military action alongside the United States.

    Got my mojo working, but it just won't work on you
    Got my mojo working, but it just won't work on you
    I wanna love you so bad till I don't know what to do...

    Great question Jeralyn. (none / 0) (#3)
    by ruffian on Sun Sep 01, 2013 at 09:37:45 PM EST
    Hank is definitely frothing at the mouth more. Why didn't we get to see him bring Gomie up to speed on Walt? I wonder what Gomie is really thinking.

    If Skyler hurts Jesse, so help me......

    I don't think she will (none / 0) (#4)
    by Jeralyn on Sun Sep 01, 2013 at 09:45:49 PM EST
    Walt is asking Todd to have his uncle Jack do it.
    But I wonder if Walter Junior ends up taking someone out.

    It is the kid that shoots Old Yeller after all (none / 0) (#8)
    by ruffian on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 12:16:35 AM EST
    This episode had some especially good moments, like Walt trying to explain Jesse to Skyler. How on earth do you do that in five minutes? And Walt still not knowing Badger's name.

    Only 4 more episodes. I realized I will be on vacation when 2nd to last one is on- will have to make sure I stay away from here that week!


    Lots of people saying things like (none / 0) (#5)
    by Edger on Sun Sep 01, 2013 at 10:37:05 PM EST
    "illegal use of chemical weapons in Syria", and "US 'has evidence of Syrian sarin use'", and "U.S. has proof Assad guilty of 'crime against humanity'", and "administration says evidence of sarin use points to Assad", and "U.S. intelligence has established timeline of Syrian chemical attack", and all kinds of other mushy meaningless statements that are nothing more than hot air and bs with actual, real evidence.

    It must be classified, I suppose, eh? Since no one either wants to or can produce it.

    CBS News Aug. 29
    Syria chemical weapons attack blamed on Assad, but where's the evidence?

    The international community will hope for clarity on these questions from the U.N. inspectors who have been on the ground in Ghouta this week.

    There are other chemical agents which have allegedly been used in Syria since 2012, including far-less-potent organophosphates, which are readily available in the form of industrial insecticides.

    It should also be noted that Russia claimed to have provided evidence in July to the U.N. which showed the rebels were behind a sarin gas attack in the village of Khan al-Assal in March 2012.

    "It was established that on March 19, the rebels launched an unguided Bashar 3 projectile towards Khan al-Assal controlled by the government forces," Vitaly Churkin, Russian ambassador to the United Nations, told reporters, adding that he intended to share the evidence with the U.S., U.K and France.

    The ambassador said the results of the analysis of the gas-laden projectile indicated the Bashar 3 rocket "was not industrially manufactured and was filled with sarin." He said the samples indicated the sarin and the projectile were produced in "cottage industry" conditions.

    Well, damn... "If I've lost Cronkite, I've lost America."

    Faith, certainty, and blah, blah, (none / 0) (#6)
    by Edger on Sun Sep 01, 2013 at 10:40:51 PM EST
    'This is why George W. Bush is so clear-eyed about Al Qaeda and the Islamic fundamentalist enemy. He believes you have to kill them all. They can't be persuaded, that they're extremists, driven by a dark vision. He understands them, because he's just like them. . . .

    ''This is why he dispenses with people who confront him with inconvenient facts,'' Bartlett went on to say. ''He truly believes he's on a mission from God. Absolute faith like that overwhelms a need for analysis. The whole thing about faith is to believe things for which there is no empirical evidence.'' Bartlett paused, then said, ''But you can't run the world on faith.''
    '''Mr. President,' I finally said, 'How can you be so sure when you know you don't know the facts?'''

    Biden said that Bush stood up and put his hand on the senator's shoulder. ''My instincts,'' he said. ''My instincts.''

    Biden paused and shook his head, recalling it all as the room grew quiet. ''I said, 'Mr. President, your instincts aren't good enough!'''

    I don't see how Walt would know (none / 0) (#7)
    by Jack203 on Sun Sep 01, 2013 at 10:53:33 PM EST
    Hank was working with Jesse.

    I think the rabid dog was Jesse.  He's completely unhinged this season.

    Definitely Saul and Walt were referring to Jesse (none / 0) (#10)
    by ruffian on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 12:23:27 AM EST
    but Hank could easily lose control himself. He has before.

    Hank (5.00 / 2) (#11)
    by Jeralyn on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 01:59:24 AM EST
    also joined Walt and Skyler in the "breaking bad" club -- he crossed the line when he told Gomez at the end it was ok if Jesse got killed in their undercover operation because he's just a junkie murderer and at least if he gets killed they'll get it all on tape. He's slipped from his moral high ground. He's now expendable. I have always disliked him the most (and Marie along with him.)

    Diana Nyad (none / 0) (#14)
    by CoralGables on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 08:32:51 AM EST
    I didn't even know she was attempting the Cuba to Florida swim again.

    She's close, really close to pulling it off this time at age 64. She's through two nights of possible jellyfish and, if not exhausted, will arrive in the Florida Keys before sundown today. Warm, no breeze, it's perfect swimming weather and she could land on the back porch of Keysdan or fishcamp for dinner.

    check this out (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by DFLer on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 08:49:16 AM EST
    Not bad... (none / 0) (#16)
    by fishcamp on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 10:43:32 AM EST
    if she lands here I'll get some autographed copies.  I think she's going to land at Smather's Beach in Key West soon.  You can see her flotilla off shore but I here she's only going about one mile per hour.

    Less than 2 miles out now (none / 0) (#17)
    by CoralGables on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 10:58:14 AM EST
    Looks like her long ordeal will have a flotilla accompanying her home

    TV News Crews (none / 0) (#18)
    by CoralGables on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 11:03:20 AM EST
    from Miami were caught off guard this morning. After so many failures they weren't expecting success. And when Diana went much faster than expected with no breeze and helpful currents, the news trucks ended up zipping down A1A this morning to be on the scene when she makes it.

    This is really exciting - what a (5.00 / 1) (#20)
    by Anne on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 11:38:47 AM EST
    dream come true for her!

    Amazing, just amazing.


    I have been fascinated by Diana Nyad for years (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by DFLer on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 12:10:29 PM EST
    after I read an interview with her in the Village Voice ages ago. This was after her first Cuba-FLA attempt.

    Two things really blew my mind:
     1. during that attempt, at some point she dreamt she was dead.
     2. Her training regime included doing innumerable laps in the pool, until the pain was so great, that, in her words, when she stopped and got out of the pool, she had an orgasm.

    I thought, wow, what a woman! And so I wrote a song about her. I met her a few years back at an MPR event, and presented the song to her. She was kinda ticked off that I had used "Diane" instead of Diana.(don't blame her) I tried to explain the artistic license of wanting to use a more percussive two-syllable word for my chorus instaed of the softer 3-syllable Diana, but I don't think she bought it! When I rerecorded the track again recently, I added some extra "Dianas" for her and made a low-fi vid.

    At the risk of giving up my TL anonymity, here's the link again: A Song for Diana Nyad


    Wooooooo (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by christinep on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 12:58:30 PM EST
    Diane (with the new Diana added)... your song pulled me out of the chair in front of a computer smiling, laughing, dancing for those positive, uplifting minutes.  Your tribute is not only bouncingly energetic, it synchronizes well with her artistry in swimming.  A Ten!

    Now, I'm getting my lazy self for a swim ... try to go 3 or so times a week ... what incentive now.  Thanks.


    Thunder Storms (none / 0) (#24)
    by CoralGables on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 12:34:04 PM EST
    crackling all over Miami but the Keys still look like clear weather. The satellite position they post has her only about 1 kilometer offshore (.6 miles)

    When we and our sons & daughters (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by christinep on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 12:33:54 PM EST
    look up the dictionary definition of "Courage" in future, I hope that one example given will be Diana Nyad.  What grit, what love of life & water!

    amen (none / 0) (#25)
    by DFLer on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 12:35:20 PM EST
    And she made it (5.00 / 5) (#30)
    by CoralGables on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 01:02:18 PM EST
    Yeaaaah! (none / 0) (#31)
    by DFLer on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 01:20:46 PM EST
    She did indeed. NYT

    53 hours....64 years old. Wow.


    I think you meant this (none / 0) (#32)
    by CoralGables on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 01:26:17 PM EST
    NYT link

    but yours was still good.


    thanks (none / 0) (#34)
    by DFLer on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 01:32:10 PM EST
    wrong headline...from NYT...but current story. Where is their online editor?

    Darn, off the "rock" (none / 0) (#33)
    by KeysDan on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 01:29:48 PM EST
    this weekend.  Pretty exciting. a report.

    Why non-intervention does not rule out war (none / 0) (#35)
    by Politalkix on Mon Sep 02, 2013 at 02:30:45 PM EST

    "The punch line is that the more that Israel perceives the U.S. as hesitant, the more Israel will be pushed to deal alone with the Iranians, something that the U.S. really did not want," said Michael Herzog, an Israel-based fellow of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. "People ask, `If this is the case on a relatively simple thing like striking Syria, how will they act against Iran?' It deepens the question marks."

    Ari Shavit, a columnist for the left-leaning daily newspaper Haaretz, said that Israel and others in the Middle East were being left with a "feeling of orphans," wondering "if there is still a reliable parent in Washington who is really committed, who understands what's going on and who is willing to act."

    Dan Gillerman, a former Israeli ambassador to the United Nations, attacked Mr. Obama's speech announcing that he would put the Syria question before Congress as "a very serious diplomatic and political fiasco reminiscent of the Carter days," and said the enemies of Israel and the United States -- especially in Tehran -- were "gloating and celebrating."

    "In Israel there is a lot of worry about whether we can really count on the United States," Mr. Gillerman said. "The behavior of the U.S. and what it projects over the last few weeks has cast a very dark shadow and very serious doubt over that."

    Walt Jr. is going to get killed... (none / 0) (#51)
    by magster on Tue Sep 03, 2013 at 06:10:16 PM EST
    He's too innocent and untarnished to survive the season finale.

    Probably in cross-fire between Hank and Walt. (none / 0) (#52)
    by magster on Tue Sep 03, 2013 at 06:13:07 PM EST