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David Miranda Describes Heathrow Detention

The Guardian has an interview with David Miranda describing his 9 hour detention.

The Guardian editor describes how he was pressured to destroy hard drives.

[O]ne of the more bizarre moments in the Guardian's long history occurred – with two GCHQ security experts overseeing the destruction of hard drives in the Guardian's basement just to make sure there was nothing in the mangled bits of metal which could possibly be of any interest to passing Chinese agents. "We can call off the black helicopters," joked one as we swept up the remains of a MacBook Pro.

The White House says it didn't request Miranda's detention, but the UK gave it a heads-up -- in other words, the U.S. knew of the detention plan before it occurred. [More...]

"This was a decision that they made on their own, and not at the request of the United States," White House spokesman Josh Earnest told reporters at a briefing. "This is something that they did independent of our direction," he added.

In a Reuters interview, Glenn Greenwald says he will continue to publish Snowden's leaked documents.

The Guardian writes in an editorial today:

Mr Miranda's detention was part security service fishing trip, part police harassment exercise and part government warning signal to journalists and whistleblowers. It was an attempt to intimidate journalism in one of the zoned-off jurisdictional spaces where such a thing can happen without legal redress. It was done simply because it could be done – and doubtless because the Americans wanted it done – and for no other reasons.

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    The Guardian has been forced to destroy (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Aug 19, 2013 at 08:57:51 PM EST
    Computers that had Snowden files on them.  It's starting to really heat up, at least in the UK.

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    "I explained..." (5.00 / 3) (#2)
    by Edger on Mon Aug 19, 2013 at 09:01:51 PM EST
    ...to the man from Whitehall about the nature of international collaborations and the way in which, these days, media organisations could take advantage of the most permissive legal environments. Bluntly, we did not have to do our reporting from London. Already most of the NSA stories were being reported and edited out of New York. And had it occurred to him that Greenwald lived in Brazil?

    The man was unmoved. And so one of the more bizarre moments in the Guardian's long history occurred - with two GCHQ security experts overseeing the destruction of hard drives in the Guardian's basement just to make sure there was nothing in the mangled bits of metal which could possibly be of any interest to passing Chinese agents. "We can call off the black helicopters," joked one as we swept up the remains of a MacBook Pro.

    Whitehall was satisfied, but it felt like a peculiarly pointless piece of symbolism that understood nothing about the digital age. We will continue to do patient, painstaking reporting on the Snowden documents, we just won't do it in London. The seizure of Miranda's laptop, phones, hard drives and camera will similarly have no effect on Greenwald's work.

    -- Alan Rusbridger, Editor in Chief of Guardian Newspapers

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    I have been busy and will remain so (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Aug 19, 2013 at 09:05:59 PM EST
    I did read a piece about Wikileaks uploading a file and requesting it be mirrored that was titled insurance.  It is encrypted, and a key may be released to unlock it.  Any other recent info on that that you have come across?

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    You know as much as I know about it. (none / 0) (#4)
    by Edger on Mon Aug 19, 2013 at 09:19:55 PM EST
    Although I did read that is a 400 gigabyte file.

    I imagine when Obama looks out the oval office window these days, he can see the light at the end of the tunnel. Shining brightly from the front of the freight train bearing down on him?

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    Who is advising our President? (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Aug 19, 2013 at 09:33:15 PM EST
    Some are arguing that our President isn't the NSA, but the NSA is a branch of the military and he commands them.  Congress enjoys the power of the purse mostly.

    It doesn't make any sense to me as to why he would choose intimidation over a transparent reassuring confidence building method of oversight.  He has a penchant for the Larry Summers type adviser though sadly, so who is the Larry Summers of intel collection?  This is what I ask myself right now.

    I think our President is being very poorly advised and is taking it.

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    IMO, because Obama... (5.00 / 2) (#6)
    by Dadler on Mon Aug 19, 2013 at 09:56:28 PM EST
    ...lacks anything resembling a real imagination.

    To reject the NSA's way requires imagination, it requires a genuine rejection of the status quo and a completely new way of doing things. He, nor any admins really, ever do this. Even his healthcare plane is, at its core, a complete affirmation of a broken system.

    We require a President with a personality that, unfortunately, is the kind of personality who would never in the first place want the kind of power over people's lives that the office comes with. It's sort of a conflict. That's why artists and writers and real creative people lead OTHER nations, not the "greatest nation on each."

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    I think our President has a fine (none / 0) (#9)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Aug 19, 2013 at 10:07:44 PM EST
    fully functioning real imagination.  I have seen him shaken once, months back...cannot remember the exact issue - heck it could have been this one in its early stages.  He gave a speech though where he seemed genuinely concerned that his grasp of Constitutionality was being questioned by other legal minds.  I think what is going on on that hill over all this is more complex than just saying our President lacks a real imagination.  And because I believe there is nothing wrong with our President's imagination, everything that is occurring condemns his choices and actions even more.  Just my opine

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    The Vonnegut Theory... (none / 0) (#28)
    by kdog on Tue Aug 20, 2013 at 08:49:44 AM EST
    "There is a tragic flaw in our precious Constitution, and I don't know what can be done to fix it. This is it: Only nut cases want to be president."

    One more on the positive tip...

    "No matter how corrupt, greedy, and heartless our government, our corporations, our media, and our religious & charitable institutions may become, the music will still be wonderful."


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    Our president has surrounded himself (5.00 / 4) (#7)
    by Anne on Mon Aug 19, 2013 at 09:56:44 PM EST
    with advisors he's comfortable with, whom he chose, so he's getting the advice he wants.

    He owns this.

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    Agreed. The advisors (5.00 / 3) (#32)
    by KeysDan on Tue Aug 20, 2013 at 10:06:48 AM EST
    are advising in a manner in which the president wants to be advised.  The advisors appear to be bullies to everyone other than the president to whom they are obsequious. In turn, the president is the spokesman and defender of the advice.

     However, all of them  have lost their way on this--all sense of proportionality and good judgment have been casualties of the petulant underpinnings to their strategy.  For supposedly smart people, they are pretty dumb in the way they are handling their concerns.  

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    I agree Anne (none / 0) (#8)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Aug 19, 2013 at 10:03:10 PM EST
    It usually takes a team effort to grow this sort of abus