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    Tropical storm Erin (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by fishcamp on Thu Aug 15, 2013 at 04:46:20 PM EST
    just moved off the Sahara desert and is crossing the Cape Verde Islands.  It's thousands of miles from us and the TV weather people are whipping into frenzy scare mode.  I haven't started my new six year old generator in six years.  The next storm after Katrina we had the National Guard, Fire Dept., and Sheriff's dept. delivering MRE's.  These aren't the WWii version.  These have about six balanced but horrid foods pressed into big plastic holder thingies.  They have chili that heats up if you bend the package.  They give you gallons of water and bags of ice in enormous amounts.  It's good they watch out for us down here in the Conch Republic.

    About that generator... (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by unitron on Thu Aug 15, 2013 at 10:13:54 PM EST
    ...did you drain the gasoline out 6 years ago?

    If not, buy a carburetor rebuild kit and a large can or 2 of carb cleaner NOW!


    thanks Unitron...did all that (none / 0) (#37)
    by fishcamp on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 07:12:51 AM EST
    since I also have a boat I try and keep up with those things.  You are correct however about the carburetor as they are those dinky rubber ones that go out regularly.  Everybody also uses fuel stabilizer and keeps their fuel tanks full so moisture doesn't get in.  Lotta stuff can go wrong down here in the sub-tropics.

    Having just watched ... (none / 0) (#7)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Aug 15, 2013 at 07:04:20 PM EST
    ... Tropical Storm Henriette pass through out here, which was our third tropical storm or hurricane to skirt our islands in as many weeks, I don't see the point of whipping up everyone's fears. It's irresponsible.

    First of all, sowing a sense of panic serves no one, because panic often leads to some very dubious decision making. Secondly, if those fears don't pan out, it's human nature for people to put less credence into the next warning, and the last thing you want is to have residents wave you off and dismiss you at the very moment you SHOULD be taken seriously.

    Hurricane preparedness is something we take very seriously in Hawaii, because we're the most geographically isolated populated land mass on the face of the earth, and the nearest point from which relief / rescue efforts could be launched is San Francisco, which is 2,400 miles away. If we get hit badly by a hurricane or an earthquake, we need to be prepared to be self-sufficient for up to a week before effective help can arrive in amounts that make a difference.



    In an emergency (none / 0) (#67)
    by Mikado Cat on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 07:28:46 PM EST
    wouldn't all of the military bases be the first resource?

    Any idea how many days of canned food storage is in Hawaii?

    In inland SoCal we have something like six months in warehouses.


    Yes, military bases could be. That said, ... (none / 0) (#83)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Aug 20, 2013 at 02:20:50 PM EST
    ... if a major hurricane hits Oahu (which is only 596 square miles in area), the military isn't going to be spared, any more than we are in the civilian community. Given our islands' geographic remoteness, we can't just outrun or sidestep a hurricane by heading inland, like residents along the Gulf and Atlantic coasts do when warnings sound. We've really got no place to evacuate in any such event, and we'll all have to ride it out in place and do the best we can.

    All households in the islands are urged to keep at least 72 hours' worth of canned goods and drinking water on hand in the event of a natural disaster, preferably a week's worth if you have room. We have ours in the outside closet in our carport, along with emergency clothing and charcoal and lighter fluid so we can cook and boil water. Further, we rotate and replace the foodstuffs and water every six to eight months, because contrary to urban legend, canned goods do NOT keep indefinitely.

    Just my observation, but what good does it do to depend upon stored goods in warehouses, if fate and circumstances somehow leave you unable to reach them? You should do the same as we do in Hawaii, and keep at least three days' to a week's supply of canned goods and water in reserve, along with warm clothes and a battery-powered radio. Because should your area be struck by a major earthquake or storm which renders roads and highways useless and / or impassable, you might find yourself stuck at the homestead for an extended period until help arrives in your vicinity.

    The time to actually think about such things is now, when there's no potential threat pending on the horizon. Trust me, you don't want to wait until a potential disaster looks to be imminent, because you'll only find yourself scrambling for supplies and waiting in store lines with all the others who always believe that such things aren't going to happen until they do. Further, stores and suppliers have been known to gouge people in need, so you certainly can't necessarily depend upon man's good will toward his fellow man in times of crisis.



    fishcamp (none / 0) (#49)
    by ragebot on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 11:49:54 AM EST
    My boat is on a ball at Boot Key, so I always watch the weather this time of year.  Always hope the bad weather goes somewhere else.

    On cooking. Julia Child digital remix from PBS. (5.00 / 3) (#2)
    by caseyOR on Thu Aug 15, 2013 at 05:10:34 PM EST
    Speaking of cooking, which we were on the last Open Thread, (and who is a more iconic symbol of American cooking than Julia?) if Julia was still with us she would have turned 100 years old yesterday. In honor of that PBS Digital Services created this digital remix of scenes from Julia's many PBS cooking shows.

    I have to say, I loved this video. It was great to see all those snippets of Julia. And the musical soundtrack is excellent.

    Wherever you are, Julia, Happy Birthday and thanks for the memories. Oh, and thanks also for teaching us about that fancy French beef stew. :-)

    On diet food (5.00 / 8) (#3)
    by jbindc on Thu Aug 15, 2013 at 05:17:20 PM EST
    "The only time to eat diet food is while you're waiting for the steak to cook."
    ― Julia Child

    I always remember Julia saying that (5.00 / 6) (#12)
    by Anne on Thu Aug 15, 2013 at 07:41:34 PM EST
    life's too short not to eat real butter.

    That's worked well for me, because I'm married to someone who hasn't found many foods that can't be improved with butter!

    As a matter of fact, tomorrow's our 33rd wedding anniversary - hmmm...maybe I should make him something with butter...yeah.


    Well Happy Anniversary (5.00 / 5) (#14)
    by MO Blue on Thu Aug 15, 2013 at 07:49:18 PM EST
    one day in advance.

    33 years - that is quite an accomplishment. Here's hoping that you have a great celebration tomorrow and many more to come.


    Ditto (5.00 / 2) (#18)
    by desertswine on Thu Aug 15, 2013 at 08:33:15 PM EST
    Thanks - it honestly feels like it was (5.00 / 5) (#21)
    by Anne on Thu Aug 15, 2013 at 08:46:25 PM EST
    just yesterday, and it boggles my mind sometimes when I realize how much life we have lived together.

    Life is kind of getting in the way of the celebration - I'm going to one daughter's to babysit my grandson so my she and my son-in-law can go out with friends, and my husband is going to our other daughter's to take care of the dogs while my daughter and her husband are out of town for the weekend.

    My husband and kids are putting together a 60th birthday party for me next weekend, so we can celebrate both events at the same time, with the people we love the most!


    Congratulations on both big events. (5.00 / 3) (#22)
    by caseyOR on Thu Aug 15, 2013 at 08:50:50 PM EST
    Your wedding anniversary and your 60th birthday are milestones to be heartily celebrated.

    If I was in Maryland I would open a bottle of champagne with you. Since I am on the opposite coast I will still open the champagne, and  I will lift  a glass to you across the vast continent.


    thanks, casey - I sure hope (5.00 / 2) (#23)
    by Anne on Thu Aug 15, 2013 at 09:19:08 PM EST
    someday there can be a TL meetup so we can all toast in person!

    No better way to celebrate (5.00 / 3) (#32)
    by MO Blue on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 02:29:29 AM EST
    than being surrounded by those you love.

    Happy Anniversary! (5.00 / 3) (#45)
    by Zorba on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 11:13:11 AM EST
    and here's to many more happy years together!

    Congratulations, Anne. (5.00 / 1) (#34)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 02:40:28 AM EST
    Enjoy the day.

    Happy Anniversary, Anne (5.00 / 1) (#41)
    by sj on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 10:58:24 AM EST
    and Blessed Be

    Happy Anniversary! (and early birthday) (5.00 / 2) (#44)
    by jbindc on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 11:05:17 AM EST
    You Deserve Some Sort of An Award... (5.00 / 2) (#46)
    by ScottW714 on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 11:30:34 AM EST
    ...because that is one hell of an accomplishment.

    Here's to many more years of peace, happiness, and prosperity, cheers.


    I did read somewhere that 33 is the (5.00 / 2) (#54)
    by ruffian on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 01:07:26 PM EST
    Butter Anniversary!  Happy day!

    Thanks to everyone for all the (5.00 / 2) (#61)
    by Anne on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 03:15:30 PM EST
    good wishes!

    It is a gorgeous day here, so I decided to take the day off; the weird thing is that this is exactly the kind of weather we had the day we were married.  It had been typical hot, humid August weather, and then a front rolled in the night before taking all the humidity with it - the skies were bright blue, the air crisp - it was perfect!


    or you can make a (none / 0) (#6)
    by Jeralyn on Thu Aug 15, 2013 at 07:00:22 PM EST
    healthy steak salad, I like this one the best, I made it again last night -- probably the fifth time this summer. It's from Gourmet's Grilling issue last year, but was first published in 2006. The grilled flank steak comes out as soft as butter even after only an hour of marinating. I add watermelon and cucumbers to the salad and just use arugula.

    It's also in the collection Oodles of Noodles.


    A nice fish variation (5.00 / 2) (#8)
    by Yman on Thu Aug 15, 2013 at 07:13:17 PM EST
    Arugula, Watermelon and Feta Salad with Citrus Vinaigrette.  Very easy and great with some grilled fish.  

    Fresh grilled Grouper down here tonight... (none / 0) (#9)
    by fishcamp on Thu Aug 15, 2013 at 07:19:47 PM EST
    Lobster season opened in August (5.00 / 1) (#51)
    by ragebot on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 11:57:59 AM EST
    I have been pigging out on them.

    Yes, they are delicious... (none / 0) (#72)
    by fishcamp on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 08:46:23 PM EST
    Jealous (none / 0) (#11)
    by Yman on Thu Aug 15, 2013 at 07:26:26 PM EST
    I'm allergic to grouper, and it used to be one of my favorites.

    Cod or Halibut could be good alternatives (none / 0) (#13)
    by shoephone on Thu Aug 15, 2013 at 07:46:19 PM EST
    Thanks (none / 0) (#17)
    by Yman on Thu Aug 15, 2013 at 08:29:46 PM EST
    I also like both of those and I'm not allergic to them.  I used to eat grouper, too, but developed an allergy about 10 years ago.  No other fish, .... Just grouper.Very strange.

    Sorry to hear that Yman. (none / 0) (#24)
    by fishcamp on Thu Aug 15, 2013 at 09:32:19 PM EST
    I wonder if it's a bout with ciguatera which is a neurotoxin that lives in reefs.  The little fish eat it and the bigger fish eat them and so on.  Deep water Grouper don't seem to have that problem.  We do have a vast variety of fish down here that are not affected by that problem.  C'mon down and catch some delicious Yellow tail Snapper.  I know where they live.

    I've wondered that myself (5.00 / 1) (#38)
    by Yman on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 07:57:20 AM EST
    I've googled it in the past, trying to figure out if it was common to be allergic to just grouper ... it's not.  My first couple of reactions were on vacations in Florida where I was taking advantage of the availability of fresh grouper.  Broke out in hives and got a little wheezy.  I don't get to eat too many reef fish, but I've never had a reaction to snapper (another reef fish?) so I'm not sure if it's ciguatera or not.

    Last time I was in your state I saw a grouper in about 100 ft. of water that had to be at least 200 lbs.  He might have been ciguarta-free, but I wasn't really thinking about eating him.  :)


    SITE VIOLATOR! (none / 0) (#86)
    by Zorba on Mon May 05, 2014 at 08:18:47 PM EST
    Spam.  Indonesian, I think.

    That sounds absolutely wonderful. (none / 0) (#15)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Aug 15, 2013 at 08:04:30 PM EST
    Unfortunately, red meat's now off my diet because of a medical condition (polycythemia vera) in which my body already produces a proliferation of red blood cells -- which is too bad, because I always loved a good steak. But I'm not willing to risk a cardiac issue or potential stroke over it.

    But If you like healthy summer salads that are relatively simple to prepare, you might also try this Asian Chicken Salad recipe the Spouse has used, which we've enjoyed for about a decade. It serves four people:

    Cooked Ingredients:

    • 1 lb. boneless, skinless chicken breast, sliced into strips
    • Sea salt (to taste)
    • 1 tbsp. sesame oil
    • 1 tbsp. peanut oil (in a pinch, canola oil will work)
    • 1/2 tsp. red pepper flakes

    Salad Ingredients;
    • 1 head of Chinese cabbage, thinly sliced (also known as Napa cabbage or celery cabbage, depending on your region)
    • 1/2 red bell pepper, thinly sliced
    • 3 or 4 scallions, sliced
    • 1 carrot, julienned
    • 1/2 cup fresh cilantro leaves, chopped and loosely packed
    • 1/2 cup roasted peanuts, chopped
    • Chow mein noodles, to taste

    Salad Dressing:
    • 1 tbsp. soy sauce
    • 2 tbsp. rice vinegar
    • 1 tsp. mustard powder
    • 1 tsp. fresh grated ginger
    • 1 clove garlic, minced
    • 1/2 tsp. chili pepper flakes
    • 2 tsp. sugar
    • 1 tbsp. dark sesame oil
    • 1/4 cup peanut or canola oil

    Heat both the sesame and peanut oils over high heat in a large sauté pan for 1 minute, then add the red pepper flakes and cook for another 30 seconds. Take pinches of sea salt, sprinkle lightly over the chicken strips, and add them to the pan. Stir-fry the chicken over high heat until it's cooked thoroughly (from 3 to 6 minutes, usually). Drain and set aside to cool.

    In a small bowl, whisk together the dressing ingredients. (Obviously, you can adjust to taste.)  In a large bowl, toss the chicken and all salad ingredients together. Toss again with dressing just before serving, and top with the chow mein noodles.

    (Warning: Do not toss the salad with the dressing until you're ready to serve; otherwise, the ingredients tend to get overly saturated by the oil, the longer it sits.)



    Another way to eat healthy (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by nycstray on Thu Aug 15, 2013 at 08:36:41 PM EST
    is to find some good (aka fresh) vegetarian recipes and replace the tofu/soy product with your meat protein of choice in a small (4oz or less) quantity. {grin} That way you get your 'meat' fix with a low impact . . .

    Tofu's an acquired taste. (none / 0) (#33)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 02:34:51 AM EST
    I'm not quite there yet -- but I'm working at it. I make a point of including it occasionally in meals.

    I am also eating a lot more fresh vegetables nowadays, substituting eggplant for meat, etc., and I find that I'm feeling better because of it, and I'm not so tired physically. My elder sister, who lives in southern France, has also been forwarding to us some great vegetarian recipes from around the Mediterranean.

    I can envision myself eventually turning vegetarian. But I do like chicken and fish, and that would difficult to give up.


    Agreed On the Tofu... (5.00 / 1) (#40)
    by ScottW714 on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 10:03:17 AM EST
    ...but I would add that's very difficult to cook with, but most vegetarian restaurants have a couple dishes that will change your mind.  I gave up trying to cook it at home.

    I eat Boca burgers at least twice a week.  Tried most of the others and always end up back at Boca.  They are delicious and easy to cook.

    I was never a big meat eater, funny since I grew up on a farm in Wisconsin.  My last couple of gf's were vegetarians, so it's either cook separately or find some middle ground.  Hard at first, but now it just seems normal.

    I have been making pasta at home, I can not believe how easy it is and delicious it is.  I never in my life thought I would be needing dough, but there I am a couple nights a week needing pasta dough.  No need for meat when you have a meal that tastes fantastic without it.


    Boca burgers are ... (none / 0) (#58)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 02:09:54 PM EST
    ... my meat substitute soy-based product of choice. (Wow, I sure managed to make that sound unappealing, huh?) Yeah, they are good, and -- unlike tofu -- very easy to cook.

    We do eat a lot of pasta ourselves. I'm a really big fan of pesto and marinara sauces, so we can get fairly creative. Haven't ever considered actually making the pasta, though, because it always looked like an awful lot of work.



    Easy... (5.00 / 1) (#59)
    by ScottW714 on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 02:50:38 PM EST
    ...two eggs, some 0000 flour (very fine), a couple minutes needing, let it set for a couple mins, then run it through the press and into boiling water for a minute or two.

    If I tried, I could probably make it faster than store bought pasta because the cooking time is so short.

    I kicked myself the first time I made it for not making it sooner.  Its nearly the difference between canned soup noodles and store bought pasta.  The past adsorbs some of the sauce and is just really has a better taste and texture.  It's why pasta at higher end Italian restaurants seems so much better, they are making it fresh.

    Plus, no preservatives.


    Donald have you tried gluten free (none / 0) (#48)
    by fishcamp on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 11:44:58 AM EST
    food for a while?  Novak Djokovich the number 1 tennis player in the world had been feeling tired and found out it was the gluten in his diet.  You probably have to live near a Whole Foods or other good stores to do it right.

    Thanks. My fatigue's mostly caused by ... (5.00 / 1) (#52)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 12:05:22 PM EST
    ... by p. vera and the drugs I have to take to combat it. It's not a dysfunctional type of fatigue by any means, although there are occasional days when I really feel compelled to pace myself.

    But if anything else could help, I'd consider it. I'll ask my nutritionist on Monday. There's a Whole Foods store about four miles from us in Kahala.



    Donald, have you tried eating beans? (none / 0) (#62)
    by caseyOR on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 04:04:35 PM EST
    They are a good protein source and provide that "bulk" to a meal that usually comes from meat.

    I often cook a pound of dried beans on the weekend and keep them in the fridge to add to dishes over several days. Cooked beans also freeze well.

    I toss them into salads, add them to sautéed or braised vegetables like kale and chard and cabbage, throw them into soups, puree them to eat as a dip or to spread on crackers or baguette. And I eat them as a side dish with chicken or fish.

    The best source for amazingingly tasty and fresh dried heirloom beans is Rancho Gordo, a company located in Napa that will mail you your beans.

    My personal favorites include runner cannellini, yellow eye, mayacoba and just about any bean from RG's special Mexico heirloom bean program.

    In the Mexico program, RG partners with growers in Mexico to provide a market for heirloom beans so that these beans are preserved instead of falling by the wayside as farmers switch to pintos or red kidney beans for the commodity market.

    RG's beans are dried, but fresh. They do not sit in a warehouse for years on end before they get to you. As a result, I never pre-soak the beans. They don't need that presoak to avoid  an hours long cooking time.


    You must have been the cook (none / 0) (#63)
    by MO Blue on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 04:14:47 PM EST
    at a week long art seminar I took in Tennessee. ;o)

    The cook put Lima beans in everything even the scrambled eggs.

    Did I by any chance happen to mention that I don't particularly like Lima beans?


    It just takes one cook to spoil the broth. :-) (5.00 / 1) (#65)
    by caseyOR on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 04:54:24 PM EST
    Lima beans are not on my list of favorites. And while I do not preclude eating beans with eggs, an excellent Tex-Mex breakfast dish called migas has both eggs and beans, there are limits.

    That's the best bean story...evah... (none / 0) (#73)
    by fishcamp on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 08:50:27 PM EST
    I love beans and lentils. (none / 0) (#84)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Aug 20, 2013 at 02:48:17 PM EST
    We consume a lot of black beans, which is a favorite of ours. We have a great recipe for black bean soup, thanks to the co-owner of Murphy's Bar & Grill here in town, who used to bring soup over to me when I was down with Hodgkin's lymphoma 20 years ago, and was undergoing chemo treatments and had trouble keeping food down. She's a soup gourmet who first introduced me to beans as a readily prepared, easily digestible and healthy source of non-meat protein. I lived off soups, poi and yogurt for the better part of that year!

    (When people ask me to define what makes a good boss, I simply point them to the owners of Murphy's. They stood by my family and me when I was ill, and they'd watch the girls when we had doctor's appointments and hospital visits. We have remained good friends to this day. I'm still an on-call bartender for them, and Elder Daughter now works part-time there as a waitress on Friday and Saturday evenings, when her high school volleyball coaching duties allow. Murphy's has also signed on to sponsor her team, and bought her boys brand-new uniforms! How cool is that?)

    Thank you for the link to Rancho Gordo. I'll definitely check them out.



    J, that sounds delish. I have bookmarked (none / 0) (#20)
    by caseyOR on Thu Aug 15, 2013 at 08:44:31 PM EST
    the recipe.

    I also added (none / 0) (#29)
    by Jeralyn on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 12:46:34 AM EST
    cherry tomatoes cut in half (forgot to mention that) and halve everything because I only use 1 pound of flank steak.

    Mmmm! (none / 0) (#39)
    by jbindc on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 08:27:32 AM EST
    That looks delicious!

    I think (5.00 / 2) (#4)
    by jbindc on Thu Aug 15, 2013 at 05:22:05 PM EST
    this guy doesn't like conservative columnist Jennifer Rubin:

    Patrick Pexton, who served as The Washington Post's ombudsman until March of this year, has written an open letter to incoming Post owner Jeff Bezos in which he calls on him to make editorial page editor Fred Hiatt fire Jennifer Rubin, the paper's conservative columnist.

    "Have Fred Hiatt, your editorial page editor -- who I like, admire, and respect -- fire opinion blogger Jennifer Rubin. Not because she's conservative, but because she's just plain bad," Pexton writes in the letter, which was published by Washington City Paper.

    "She doesn't travel within a hundred miles of Post standards," Pexton argues. "She parrots and peddles every silly right-wing theory to come down the pike in transparent attempts to get Web hits. Her analysis of the conservative movement, which is a worthwhile and important beat that the Post should treat more seriously on its national pages, is shallow and predictable. Her columns, at best, are political pornography; they get a quick but sure rise out of the right, but you feel bad afterward."


    Well, yes (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by Zorba on Thu Aug 15, 2013 at 05:27:39 PM EST
    Rubin is pretty d@mned bad. Surely the Post could find another conservative columnist who has more brain cells to rub together than Jennifer Rubin. ;-)

    Not sure (none / 0) (#10)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Aug 15, 2013 at 07:25:22 PM EST
    they could find anyone any better these days. Conservative IQ's have fallen greatly since the death of William F. Buckley. I certainly can't think of anyone who's any better than Rubin bad as she is.

    I'd get rid of Fred Hiatt, too. (5.00 / 2) (#16)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Aug 15, 2013 at 08:07:18 PM EST
    The guy is a walking exercise in false equivalence.

    I was thinking the same thing... (none / 0) (#55)
    by ruffian on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 01:10:01 PM EST
    The letter should have started out "Fire Fred Hiatt."

    Lots (none / 0) (#68)
    by Mikado Cat on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 07:46:56 PM EST
    of predictable people seem to hate Rubin, sounds like she is doing her job.

    I don't read any particular authors, just google topics and pick among the options until I think I have some understanding of the subject, but I did just read a Jennifer Rubin column as back ground before posting this, the Bush vs Obama foreign policy bit, and nothing special, but the comments were full of vitriol, so I guess she is doing her job.

    I read a couple UK weeklies, and one has a section called something like pub ammo, bits of trivial to use at the pub to look clever. Isn't that what most political columns are these days, bits of trivia to allow the uninformed to look clever?


    Seriously? (5.00 / 3) (#71)
    by shoephone on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 08:38:18 PM EST
    "...the comments were full of vitriol, so I guess she is doing her job."

    That's the standard? Eliciting vitriolic comments?

    On that basis, you must recommend hundreds of websites that I wouldn't waste five seconds on.


    Not a (none / 0) (#74)
    by Mikado Cat on Sat Aug 17, 2013 at 04:13:52 AM EST
    recommendation, and I don't have any sites I would recommend either. As I said, I Google, and look around to see if I have a balanced view if possible.

    Caustic comments generally don't have to do that much with what the author says, it usually means some site with an opposing view bashes the author and that site's fanboy's show up to parrot the opposition view.


    So, what's her job - driving readership? (5.00 / 3) (#76)
    by Anne on Sat Aug 17, 2013 at 08:50:33 AM EST
    If so, sure - she's "doing her job" - but any moron can do that.  

    The ombudsman's point, in case you missed it, is that if the Post has any interest in covering conservative issues and opinions with honest and thoughtful and informed writing, Rubin is the wrong choice because that's not what she's doing.

    But, based on the kinds of things you write here at TL, it doesn't surprise me that you have some affinity for what Rubin does; apparently, it isn't only great minds that think alike.


    Why (none / 0) (#81)
    by Mikado Cat on Sat Aug 17, 2013 at 04:29:33 PM EST
    assume I have any affinity for Rubin's writing, I just said I don't read any specific author regularly. I like a diversity of opinion, and don't believe great minds think alike at all.

    Yes, the NSA does violate the law. (5.00 / 2) (#31)
    by caseyOR on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 01:43:01 AM EST
    Barton Gellman, the WaPo reporter who received documents from Edward Snowden, has a story in the WaPo about just how often and how the NSA violates the rules and laws about information gathering.

    While some violations are due to clerical error, others are just outright law-breaking on the part of the NSA. I'm not posting excerpts because you really need to read the whole story to get all the important info.

    Suffice to say the NSA is careless with the information it accesses. The NSA also intentionally violates the law, and teaches its people how to hide this from those who provide oversight.

    Go ahead and read the story.

    Very informative (none / 0) (#35)
    by MO Blue on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 02:52:48 AM EST
    Seems that NSA does break the law and has used methods that even the very NSA friendly FISA court ruled unconstitutional in 2011.

    More limited hangout... (none / 0) (#43)
    by Mr Natural on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 11:03:12 AM EST
    Their attitude is that we can't handle the truth.

    Carol D. Leonnig writing at WAPO Thursday (5.00 / 2) (#36)
    by Edger on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 04:48:22 AM EST
    reports that the obama administration has moved forward from "lying" about spying to "contrasting"...

    [FISC Chief Judge Reggie B. Walton] said the court lacks the tools to independently verify how often the government's surveillance breaks the court's rules that aim to protect Americans' privacy. Without taking drastic steps, it also cannot check the veracity of the government's assertions that the violations its staff members report are unintentional mistakes.
    "The FISC is forced to rely upon the accuracy of the information that is provided to the Court," its chief, U.S. District Judge Reggie B. Walton, said in a written statement to The Washington Post. "The FISC does not have the capacity to investigate issues of noncompliance, and in that respect the FISC is in the same position as any other court when it comes to enforcing [government] compliance with its orders."

    Walton's comments came in response to internal government records obtained by The Post showing that National Security Agency staff members in Washington overstepped their authority on spy programs thousands of times per year. The records also show that the number of violations has been on the rise.

    The court's description of its practical limitations contrasts with repeated assurances from the Obama administration and intelligence agency leaders that the court provides central checks and balances on the government's broad spying efforts. They have said that Americans should feel comfortable that the secret intelligence court provides robust oversight of government surveillance and protects their privacy from rogue intrusions.

    The words "robust oversight" still lie there though.

    Perhaps that's just an "oversight" from the administration.

    There is also a secret photo gallery of secret mugshots of the judges of the secret court at the link. Although to give WAPO some credit clicking the photo gallery link forces you to sit through an obnoxious Goldman Sachs ad that makes you want to close the page, so the mugshots may remain secret. Oversight, you know...

    I was very impressed.

    AN AXE LENGTH AWAY turns 100!! (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by Dadler on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 10:59:50 AM EST
    That's right, it's Volume 100 of the venerable satirical comic site, AN AXE LENGTH AWAY. We've had ups we've had downs, we've had nasty staff meetings in my head, but it's always seemed to work out. Ahem. Giggle. Yes, anyway, here's the C-note -- because sometimes beauty ain't what she seems. (link)

    Thanks to all who view the site and get some enjoyment out of it. Hopefully I can churn out a hundred more, since they tend to keep me sane better than any pill, tho I may take the weekend off since I'm broiling in SoCal heat. Peace, y'all.

    AN AXE LENGTH AWAY (a free comic a day)

    I'm starting to think this is SPAM (none / 0) (#28)
    by shoephone on Thu Aug 15, 2013 at 11:27:32 PM EST
    and, weirdly, without links. All the posts about solar panels. And the strangely formal manner in which they are written.

    I'm calling SPAM.

    I Think That Dude... (5.00 / 1) (#47)
    by ScottW714 on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 11:42:03 AM EST
    ..forgot his meds, he was all over the place from solar panels to conspiracy rants, just odd, yet at times very rational.

    Speaking of solar panels, here is a link to Solar Power Rocks.  It's the most comprehensive pro-solar site I have found with links to each state's subsidies/incentives/loans for solar power.  As well as tons of information and even a blog.


    it is spam (none / 0) (#30)
    by Jeralyn on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 12:51:59 AM EST
    I zapped Tom Paine and his comments

    The new spam (none / 0) (#69)
    by Mikado Cat on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 07:53:00 PM EST
    Is to post vaguely on topic messages, then come back and edit them later with spam links that search engines will catch after nobody is looking at the threads to check content.

    NYPD... (none / 0) (#50)
    by kdog on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 11:55:52 AM EST
    gave this poor slob a heart attack when they stormed his home at the crack of dawn looking for a mugger.  Literally.  

    Storm & Frisk.

    Insults to fatal injury...they sent the ambulance to the wrong location, and made the victim's horrified son administer the mouth to mouth.  

    That whole story is horrifying (5.00 / 2) (#53)
    by shoephone on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 01:07:04 PM EST
    The NYPD acted like a SWAT team breaking into this family's home -- and all over a stolen purse and cell phone! Insanity rules.

    I am shocked, shocked! (none / 0) (#56)
    by ruffian on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 01:11:15 PM EST
    That this happened someplace other than Florida.

    To make it a Florida... (none / 0) (#57)
    by kdog on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 01:40:53 PM EST
    story, just add bullets flying in all directions.

    Sad to say, but you are correct. (5.00 / 1) (#66)
    by republicratitarian on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 05:50:02 PM EST
    My local sheriff's office shoots an unarmed man in his own driveway.

    Then his goons enter a home through a window and shoot their dogs.

    I made sure I didn't have any buckets outside my window to give the police any "justification".

    I apologize if this has already been posted.


    and the deceased opened the door.

    regardless, fwiw, mouth to mouth is no longer taught as part of CPR. The important thing is to keep the blood moving by chest compressions, as the blood already has enough oxygen in it.


    I'm sure the reporting is accurate (5.00 / 3) (#64)
    by sj on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 04:28:04 PM EST
    and that the cops do say they knocked. I don't believe them. This sort of reaction to a purse snatching?  Nope, not buying that official story. And I wouldn't even if I had never seen the pictures of the broken door.

    Not saying they did or didn't (2.00 / 2) (#75)
    by Mikado Cat on Sat Aug 17, 2013 at 04:21:12 AM EST
    But somebody saw the suspect run into the building, and police went door to door canvasing, so not a lot of reason to suspect on that door they didn't knock and kicked it in.

    What I read was that when the door was opened the guys son was behind him and dressed similar to the robber in red pants. Police took him outside and victim said he wasn't the robber.

    Actual robber unrelated to the family, but captured in the same building.


    Hogwash. (5.00 / 1) (#77)
    by shoephone on Sat Aug 17, 2013 at 09:46:41 AM EST
    But somebody saw the suspect run into the building, and police went door to door canvasing, so not a lot of reason to suspect on that door they didn't knock and kicked it in.

    "Canvassing." Uhhh....not exactly. Did you see the photo of the damaged lock on the door? Apparently not. So, in actuality, there is a lot of reason to suspect the cops are lying.

    Furthermore, the "guy" in the apartment wasn't wearing red pants -- the "guy" was the 16-year old son, who was in bed, and happened to be wearing red shorts. Why was he in bed? Because it was 5:30 in the morning. Everyone in the apartment was asleep when the cops busted in.


    Am beginning to feel like dealing (5.00 / 1) (#78)
    by Anne on Sat Aug 17, 2013 at 11:14:23 AM EST
    with these holdovers from the-trial-that-shall-not-be-named is a lot like following after the elephants at the circus...and about as much fun.

    Yes (none / 0) (#79)
    by squeaky on Sat Aug 17, 2013 at 12:44:29 PM EST
    About the same degree of fun as dealing with the holdovers from the other significant influx to TL...   things change

    The CDSers? (none / 0) (#80)
    by Yman on Sat Aug 17, 2013 at 01:13:01 PM EST
    Kind'uv a tossup ...

    Saw the picture (2.00 / 1) (#82)
    by Mikado Cat on Sat Aug 17, 2013 at 04:42:41 PM EST
    Millions of reasons to think the family is also lying, all with faces of presidents on them.

    Canvasing, knocking on all the doors, and no I see no reason to presume the police are the ones who damaged the door, but I don't claim it didn't happen either, just that is doesn't seem likely.

    Did anybody else have a door kicked in? One report said a door was pried open.

    Al Sharpton is on the case so we know its in good hands now.

    I am happy to wait for a full investigation.


    Eventually everything police do is going to be (none / 0) (#70)
    by Mikado Cat on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 08:07:09 PM EST
    videoed. I've heard one of the reasons so many Russian and Ukraine video's are on the net is that there is so much corruption that everybody puts a camera in their cars for evidence.

    I read this link on the story. and in doing a Google I noticed most of the coverage goes with the headline "stormed" that should be a hint to the bias.

    How credible is it that a healthy person has a heart attack and dies from a non physical confrontation with police?

    This is another case where I am more than willing to wait for a calm report with a lot more information than exists now.