A Few More NSA Surveillance Documents Declassified

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    And today's Guardian article (5.00 / 4) (#1)
    by shoephone on Wed Jul 31, 2013 at 12:52:25 PM EST
    by Greenwald is the reason Clapper, the man who lies to Congress, is declassifying these materials. The cat's out of the bag. Snowden's claims are being proven true.

    Thanks Shoephone... (none / 0) (#8)
    by Visteo1 on Wed Jul 31, 2013 at 05:32:59 PM EST
    "Every search by an NSA analyst is fully auditable, to ensure that they are proper and within the law."

    It sounds like some audits are coming, based on Snowden's comments:

    "It's very rare to be questioned on our searches," Snowden told the Guardian in June, "and even when we are, it's usually along the lines of: 'let's bulk up the justification'."


    One can only hope, Visteo1 (none / 0) (#13)
    by shoephone on Thu Aug 01, 2013 at 12:52:07 AM EST
    I guess the difference between "fully auditable" and not is that the congress has to have knowledge of the scope of the programs in the first place.

    The cover letters, of course, are meaningless (5.00 / 3) (#4)
    by shoephone on Wed Jul 31, 2013 at 01:20:40 PM EST
    but the actual document (in the third link) is mightily redacted, so...reading between the blacked-out lines and the phony CYA of the rest of it (page 7 is particularly funny, in light of what Greenwald exposed in the Guardian today) leaves us with not much more information than we had before.

    Clapper's head should roll for lying to Congress. And then there's Feinstein...the NSA's fool.

    This is what (5.00 / 4) (#5)
    by Peter G on Wed Jul 31, 2013 at 01:26:03 PM EST
    lack of democracy looks like.

    Seems Jimmy Carter was right. (none / 0) (#6)
    by Mr Natural on Wed Jul 31, 2013 at 04:39:48 PM EST
    "the" man who lied to Congress? (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by Mr Natural on Wed Jul 31, 2013 at 04:44:45 PM EST
    Thumbing through my Richard M. Nixon guide to government.  Ah, here it is:

    "modified limited hangout"

    Links working fine (none / 0) (#3)
    by Peter G on Wed Jul 31, 2013 at 01:10:08 PM EST
    for me.

    they work fine (none / 0) (#10)
    by Jeralyn on Wed Jul 31, 2013 at 08:50:52 PM EST
    Links didn't work for me either (none / 0) (#9)
    by sj on Wed Jul 31, 2013 at 05:41:21 PM EST
    I expect I'll have use my home computer to view them.

    they are pdf documents (none / 0) (#11)
    by Jeralyn on Wed Jul 31, 2013 at 08:51:55 PM EST
    they are the links provided by the DNI and go to the documents on their website. They work.

    Is there some reason you deleted my (none / 0) (#12)
    by Anne on Wed Jul 31, 2013 at 09:10:05 PM EST

    Because in addition to letting you know that the links didn't work for me (and I tried in both Firefox and IE, with no luck - I ended up getting to them via the NYT - they do work for me from home, so I don't know what the problem was), I also had something to say about the release of the documents - was there something objectionable about what I said?

    In the future, would you prefer that we not let you know when we experience problems with links and things?


    As I said (none / 0) (#15)
    by sj on Thu Aug 01, 2013 at 11:13:41 AM EST
    I'll have to go home to review these (I forgot last night). The links don't work. From work. I don't know how I can be any clearer without actually using the word "censorship". I guess I could use the word "blocked".

    Via The Guardian (none / 0) (#14)
    by Nemi on Thu Aug 01, 2013 at 07:44:31 AM EST