Thursday Open Thread

Stephen Rakes, a potential witness against Whitey Bulger, has been found dead. The Government says it was not going to call Rakes due to contradictions in his versions of events. I haven't been following the Bulger trial, so I don't know the significance of this, but it's making major headlines.

The full Rolling Stone article on Dzokhar Tsarnaev, Jahar's World, is available to read online.

I have a few more hours of work to do before I get to read Jahar's World, but I'll put up a post for it now, as well as one for Zimmerman.

This is an open thread, all topics welcome (Except Zimmerman).

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    "Remember the Alamo? Neither do we." (5.00 / 2) (#12)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 04:25:50 PM EST
    Comedian Louis Black and lots of his New York friends ripped Texas Gov. Rick Perry a new one last night on The Daily Show in an instant classic takedown, after Perry started running ads in New York urging businesses to relocate to the Lone Star State: "Texas is calling? Then it's a good thing I've got 'Caller ID.'"

    He tried this in CA also (none / 0) (#43)
    by nycstray on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 08:01:09 PM EST
    No takers :)

    It was really funny (none / 0) (#51)
    by ruffian on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 08:37:53 AM EST
    Loved the 'eff you Texas' in many languages at the end.

    What does 3 hops mean? (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by MO Blue on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 04:35:10 PM EST
    For the first time, NSA deputy director John C. Inglis disclosed Wednesday that the agency sometimes conducts what's known as three-hop analysis. That means the government can look at the phone data of a suspect terrorist, plus the data of all of his contacts, then all of those people's contacts, and finally, all of those people's contacts.

    If the average person calls 40 unique people, three-hop analysis could allow the government to mine the records of 2.5 million Americans when investigating one suspected terrorist. link

    Exponential Abuse of 4th Amendment (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by squeaky on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 04:44:00 PM EST
    If your's really is a question, it is about math, and how it can be used to justify illegal actions by our government.

    My comment was intended to put (none / 0) (#18)
    by MO Blue on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 04:52:21 PM EST
    the analysis in perspective and advise how it could allow the government to mine the records of 2.5 million Americans when investigating one suspected terrorist.

    Yet, your answer to the question agrees with my thoughts on the subject. IOW

    it is about math, and how it can be used to justify illegal actions by our government.  

    We have all been hopped on :) (none / 0) (#21)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 05:02:07 PM EST
    I feel sorriest for Kevin Bacon (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by shoephone on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 06:24:45 PM EST
    He's related to everyone.

    More on sense of scale (none / 0) (#29)
    by MO Blue on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 06:01:59 PM EST
    For a sense of scale, researchers at the University of Milan found in 2011 that everyone on the Internet was, on average, 4.74 steps away from anyone else. The NSA explores relationships up to three of those steps. link

    Also tweet by John Henke:

    If you don't want to share your contact lists with the government, maybe you just shouldn't know people.

    If you call me... (none / 0) (#30)
    by unitron on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 06:07:52 PM EST
    ...that's one hop.

    If they're keeping an eye on you, then now they have my number, and that lets them see who I call, or who else calls me.

    That's the second hop.

    Then they can see who those people call, or are called by.

    That's the third hop.


    Unitron (none / 0) (#76)
    by Yman on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 09:22:47 PM EST
    You asked me a question on the other thread that's now closed.  My answer to you would be ...

    ... you're certainly welcome to try.


    That awkward moment ... (5.00 / 3) (#36)
    by Yman on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 07:13:45 PM EST
    Yowza. (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by shoephone on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 07:33:49 PM EST
    Speaking of Putin...& Alexei Navalny (5.00 / 1) (#44)
    by christinep on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 08:08:54 PM EST
    Navalny, of course, was the principal representative of opposition in Russia during the elections in December, 2011.  He spoke out to massive rallies, citing corruption and overbearing statism of the Putin government.  Update on Navalny: Today he was convicted of something (embezzlement or some such) and carried away in shackles to spend the next 5 years at a Russian prison camp.  Oh...and, during his trial to a judge (no jury allowed), he was not allowed to present any witnesses.

    Blink.  Blink.  That would be the definition of a "show trial" (as they say in Russia.)

    I suspect that the situation playing out in Russia may be getting more intricate.  Or, actually, shades of earlier days and the Gulag.

    A letter to Edward Snowden... (5.00 / 2) (#45)
    by Edger on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 10:14:25 PM EST
    What is terrifying to the politicians at the top is that you may be our truest patriot at the moment. Which makes all of them, with their marble buildings and illustrious titles, their security details and all the pomp, the flags, the saluting soldiers, so many traitors. The government is the enemy of the people; the state is the enemy of the country. I love that country, too. I fear that state and this new information age as they spread and twine like a poison vine around everything and everyone. You held up a mirror and fools hate the mirror for it; they shoot the messenger, but the message has been delivered.

    Emerging From Darkness, the Edward Snowden Story
    Rebecca Solnit, writing at TomDispatch, 8:15am, July 18, 2013

    Thank you (5.00 / 1) (#49)
    by sj on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 02:43:25 AM EST
    Thoughtful, intelligent articulate people everywhere. The US government is playing whack-a-mole.

    They're terrified... (none / 0) (#74)
    by Edger on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 07:08:50 PM EST
    AN AXE LENGTH AWAY, vol. 72 (5.00 / 1) (#52)
    by Dadler on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 09:10:18 AM EST
    I will have a great day... (5.00 / 1) (#60)
    by kdog on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 11:42:46 AM EST
    oh so cocksure that I'm gonna rock out with my thang out for 2 1/2 glorious weeks...vacay begins in T minus 2 hours, yip yeah mofos!

    Y'all misbehave yourselves while I'm gone, though I may stop in here and there to check on the TL fam.  



    you heading south of the border? (none / 0) (#61)
    by Dadler on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 11:49:50 AM EST
    or going somewhere else, or just staying on the island?

    Whatever it is, vacation = LIFE!

    Have fun living it up, my fellow pleasure pirate.


    Staying Tri-State local... (none / 0) (#66)
    by kdog on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 12:24:30 PM EST
    Previously commented our itenerary for the first week of bliss.

    the sacrament (none / 0) (#68)
    by Dadler on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 12:43:39 PM EST
    such a crime your coast isn't as "enlightened" as the left one on this issue. found a new place in the outer Mission, sells seriously good 50 and 60 dollar quarters, and offer 40 and under specials all the time. Crazy good prices and huge selection. Go west, young man.

    Have a blast with all the tunes and amour. And the freedom, oh that freedom!


    Have a wonderful time. Here's something (none / 0) (#70)
    by oculus on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 01:37:14 PM EST
    to ponder:  



    You know what I hope (5.00 / 4) (#55)
    by vicndabx on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 10:48:23 AM EST
    we have no more threads about "he who shall not be named."  

    The nonsensical theories about who should do what by all these supposed freedom loving people amazes me.

    I'm trying to stay out of them, but it's like a car crash, I can't help but stare.

    It's hard to not respond (5.00 / 3) (#62)
    by shoephone on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 11:52:21 AM EST
    to blatant race baiting. But I always feel the need to take a shower after reading through those threads.

    Yup, me too. (5.00 / 2) (#64)
    by vicndabx on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 12:03:21 PM EST
    And As Anne Has Pointed Out... (5.00 / 1) (#69)
    by ScottW714 on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 12:53:56 PM EST
    ...the same folks, who if given the chance, would flip the switch today to fry Tsarnaev, sans the trial.

    Ralph Nader Tort Museum (5.00 / 1) (#63)
    by squeaky on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 11:57:17 AM EST
    Ralph Nader's long-awaited Tort Museum project may have finally found its home.....

    ....Nader first expressed interest in creating a museum dedicated to the liabilities of wrong doings over 10 years ago, proposing exhibits that highlighted faulty products such as the Ford Pinto and untreated flammable pajamas, but was met with some skepticism. A 1998 New York Times article wondered, "Would it be able to serve hot coffee in a museum cafe for fear of scalding customers' mouths? Should display cases be built without sharp corners that could accidentally cut frisky children? And will lawyers whose work is portrayed in a less-than-flattering light sue for defamation?"

    Climate change deniers (5.00 / 1) (#65)
    by Yman on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 12:13:16 PM EST
    Been a pretty rough week for 'em.

    Studies? (none / 0) (#67)
    by sj on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 12:37:22 PM EST
    They don't need no stinkin' studies.

    Thanx (none / 0) (#1)
    by FlameCCT on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 03:04:39 PM EST
    I found your site through a link on another discussion thread.  I'm impressed by the quality and character of the writing here.  Although I'm conservative, it has been a breath of fresh air to find a blog that is similar to discussion I have with my friends who are not conservative.

    Thanx again.

    Well, this is a twist (none / 0) (#2)
    by jbindc on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 03:22:26 PM EST
    On a Capitol Hill sex scandal - Rep. Cohen "stunned" as DNA reveals woman is not his daughter

    Rep. Steve Cohen (D-Tenn.) is not the father of a 24-year-old woman he believed was his out-of-wedlock daughter, a paternity test performed by CNN revealed Thursday.

    The DNA test found that there was a zero percent chance that Cohen was the father of Victoria Brink, who in fact is the biological daughter of Texas oilman John Brink.

    In a statement, Cohen said he was "stunned and dismayed" by the result of the test.

    "I was overjoyed when I was informed that Victoria was my daughter," Cohen said. "Since then, I have given her my unconditional love and done my best at being a father as I tried to make up for lost time."

    "I was stunned and dismayed when DNA tests disproved what Victoria and I believed about our relationship. I still love Victoria, hold dear the time I have shared with her, and hope to continue to be a part of her life."

    i"[A]nd hope to continue to be a partn (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by oculus on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 05:04:28 PM EST
    of her life."  which will be that of a future billionaire?

    The cynical side of me (none / 0) (#3)
    by CoralGables on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 03:43:49 PM EST
    says, he can now go back to dating her again.

    Ba-Da-Bing! (none / 0) (#7)
    by jbindc on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 04:05:12 PM EST
    viruses (none / 0) (#4)
    by robert72 on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 03:50:34 PM EST
    Almost every time I go into TalkLeft I get a notice of a Trojan virus. Is anyone else having this problem? My virus protection catches it, but perhaps not everyone is as lucky.....

    Hmmm (none / 0) (#5)
    by squeaky on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 03:54:59 PM EST
    Maybe best to email the NSA and ask them about it.

    Someone talked about this before (none / 0) (#9)
    by sj on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 04:08:59 PM EST
    I think i was MilitaryTracy?

    No, but I have sometimes gotten ... (none / 0) (#10)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 04:09:11 PM EST
    ... a notice when I've come onsite of late, which says that my anti-virus software has blocked an attempt to export credit card data. And MT has been getting the same Trojan alert that you're getting. Anyway, it's probably something Jeralyn might want to check out.

    You should (none / 0) (#14)
    by Zorba on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 04:35:43 PM EST
    probably email Jeralyn.  She doesn't always read every comment, and she would probably want to know about this.
    You can click on her name at the right, and her email is at the end of her bio.

    I get that notice too (none / 0) (#17)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 04:46:33 PM EST
    There are three other sites (none / 0) (#20)
    by Edger on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 04:56:58 PM EST
    sharing IP address with Talkleft.

    Any one of them infected could produce that a/v warning.

    Also, your anti-virus may have old erroneous records in the database it is checking against. I use Avast, and I get no warning on any of the 4 sites.


    None... (none / 0) (#54)
    by ScottW714 on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 10:36:38 AM EST
    ...and I use 3 computers, all with different virus software.  The one at work having the the most robust and the mostly likely to block a site with any history of viruses.

    "The Departed, Part II"? (none / 0) (#6)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 03:58:20 PM EST
    Stephen Rakes, one of Whitey Bulger's most dogged critics in his South Boston community who had waited decades for the opportunity to testify against him in open court, was found dead today in Lincoln, MA.

    Rakes had long alleged publicly that Bulger and the Winter Hill mob coerced him at gunpoint to sell his liquor store back in 1984, and he was reportedly upset when told earlier this week by U.S. Attorney Carmen Ortiz's office that prosecutors were not going to call him to the stand. His cause of death is under investigation.

    The 83-year-old Bulger is currently on trial in federal court in Boston, after having been arrested in June 2011 in Santa Monica, CA following 16 years on the lam.


    Detroit files for Chapter 9 bankruptcy (none / 0) (#8)
    by jbindc on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 04:07:03 PM EST
    becoming the largest city to do so in the history of the country.

    The City of Detroit filed this afternoon for Chapter 9 bankruptcy protection in federal court, laying the groundwork for a historic effort to bail out a major U.S. city that is sinking under billions of dollars in debt and decades of mismanagement, population flight and loss of tax revenue.

    The filing begins a 30- to 90-day period that will determine whether the city is eligible for Chapter 9 protection and define how many claimants might compete for the limited settlement resources that Detroit has to offer. The bankruptcy petition would seek protection from creditors and unions who are renegotiating $18.5 billion in debt and other liabilities

    Detroit Files For Bankruptcy (none / 0) (#11)
    by squeaky on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 04:09:17 PM EST
    The city of Detroit filed for bankruptcy on Thursday, making it the largest-ever municipal bankruptcy in U.S. history and marking a new low for a city that was the cradle of the U.S. automotive industry.

    Chicago Tribune

    Detroit's two pension funds filed their lawsuit Wednesday against Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder and Detroit Emergency Manager Kevyn Orr earlier than initially planned because of the pace of the city's march toward bankruptcy.

    Detroit Free Press

    And home to one of America's great collections of art the DIA may be forced to sell off its collection.

    When Johnathan Shearrod gazes at van Gogh's "Self Portrait," Bruegel the Elder's "Wedding Dance" or any of the other treasures at the Detroit Institute of Arts, he can't help but fear for their future.

    If Detroit falls into bankruptcy, those masterpieces and other prized artwork could go on the auction block to help satisfy the city's staggering debts. Though the auctions would raise much-needed cash, they would also strip the city of its cultural riches, including paintings by Rivera, Renoir and Matisse, and maybe even zoo animals and historic automobiles.

    DIA Statement on Bankruptcy (none / 0) (#26)
    by squeaky on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 05:38:16 PM EST
    Like so many with deep roots in this city, the Detroit Institute of Arts (DIA) is disappointed that the Emergency Manager determined it was necessary to file for bankruptcy.  As a municipal bankruptcy of this size is unprecedented, the DIA will continue to carefully monitor the situation, fully confident that the emergency manager, the governor and the courts will act in the best interest of the City, the public and the museum.  We remain committed to our position that the Detroit Institute of Arts and the City of Detroit hold the DIA's collection in trust for the public and we stand by our charge to preserve and protect the cultural heritage of all Michigan residents.[emphasis mine]



    Remember (none / 0) (#16)
    by jbindc on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 04:46:07 PM EST
    that article touting the fact that NY's insurance premium costs will fall under Obamacare?

    Here's why:

    A headline about the health care law driving down premiums, by this level of magnitude, is a rarity. But it shouldn't be shocking: New York has, for two decades now, had the highest individual market premiums in the country. A lot of it seems to trace back to a law passed in 1993, which required insurance plans to accept all applicants, regardless of how sick or healthy they were. That law did not, however, require everyone to sign up, as the Affordable Care Act does.

    New York has, for 20 years now, been a long-running experiment in what happens to universal coverage without an individual mandate. It's the type of law the country would have if House Republicans succeeded in delaying the individual mandate, as they will vote to do this afternoon. The result: a small insurance market with very high insurance premiums.


    While insurers in states such as Maryland predicted the general mix of people they cover to become significantly less healthy, as those with pre-existing conditions flooded into the individual market, the Deloitte report predicted the exact opposite. Analysts expected all the healthier people, previously scared off by the high premiums, to come into the system.

    A less sick population generally means a less expensive population, as insurers calibrate their premiums to the amount of claims they expect to pay in the next year.

    "The expected increase in the size of the non-group market post-ACA could introduce a much more typical distribution of health care needs to this market," the Deloitte paper predicted, "Thus leading to significantly lower premiums."

    Premiums (none / 0) (#46)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 10:22:15 PM EST
    in NY are going to be lower than they are here in GA if the prices they are quoting are correct.

    From our "Pistol in Your Pocket?" file: (none / 0) (#19)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 04:53:08 PM EST
    What is the Christian Right, really, if not a bunch of terribly needy people seeking a cosmic explanation for their chronic inability to get laid, unless they first agreed to pay for it?

    Anyone know what happened to that .... (none / 0) (#22)
    by magster on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 05:03:32 PM EST
    high school girl, Caitlin Hunt, accused of having sex with a girl in high school younger than her that was all over the news a couple of months ago? She was supposed to have a trial on June 20. The Google didn't show anything new since it was a big story in May.

    You're spelling her name wrong (none / 0) (#24)
    by CoralGables on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 05:22:15 PM EST
    There should be one uniform spelling.... (none / 0) (#27)
    by magster on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 05:52:09 PM EST
    .... for all popular first names.

    AN AXE LENGTH AWAY, vol. 71 (none / 0) (#25)
    by Dadler on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 05:24:18 PM EST
    Obama considering upping the anti (none / 0) (#28)
    by MO Blue on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 05:53:43 PM EST
    WASHINGTON (AP) -- The White House is considering canceling a fall summit between President Barack Obama and Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow, a move that would further aggravate the already tense relationship between the two leaders.

    The White House is dangling that option over the Russians as Moscow considers a temporary asylum petition from Edward Snowden, the American accused of leaking information about classified U.S. intelligence programs. But officials have privately signaled that scrapping the bilateral talks would also be retaliation for other areas of disagreement with Russia, including its continued support for Syrian President Bashar Assad's attacks against civilians.

    Regardless of what happens with Snowden, the White House says Obama will still attend an international summit in St. Petersburg, Russia. But officials have gone out of their way in recent days to avoid publicly committing to the meetings in Moscow. link

    Guess we will have to wait and see if this changes Putin's mind.

    Would Putin care? (none / 0) (#31)
    by shoephone on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 06:23:24 PM EST
    I ask in all seriousness. It's not as if Putin is the mayor of Moscow, so what difference would this make, if they're all meeting in St. Petersburg anyway? I sense that Putin has been having some fun poking a stick in Obama's eye.

    The director of the Russia program (5.00 / 1) (#34)
    by MO Blue on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 06:49:19 PM EST
    at the Center for Strategic and International Studies seems to think Putkin would care.

    Andrew Kuchins, director of the Russia program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, said the White House's cancellation threat could be effective leverage over Putin, who likely wants to avoid an embarrassment on the world stage.

    "When the spotlight of the world is on him and Russia, he doesn't want that spotlight to reveal a lot of negative things which are going to be distractions," Kuchins said.

    Whether you agree with Mr Kuchins or think that Putkin would want to avoid embarrassment on the world stage by looking like he is knuckling under to pressure from the U.S., I guess is a matter of opinion.

    BTW, it seems that Kuchins may develop interesting scenarios about Putin.


    Kuchins would have to say that, (none / 0) (#35)
    by sj on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 07:12:52 PM EST
    wouldn't he? After all "we're number one!" and the world revolves around the USA.  Right?

    And those "books" that he's written are odd, don't you think? One of them (written in 2007) is all of 72 pages and ships new and "like new" for ~$26. With no discussion and no Amazon ratings. The other (written in 2008) is only 28 pages, is not available at all and also has no discussion and Amazon ratings.

    He must be a very distinguished scholar.


    Go back and read the last sentence (none / 0) (#40)
    by MO Blue on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 07:43:42 PM EST
    in my link about the controversial report he wrote in Dec. 2007 about Putin. I would classify that as very odd.

    You're right (none / 0) (#47)
    by sj on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 01:54:35 AM EST
    I read that and then got caught up in how seriously he should be taken. "Odd" is an understatement I think.

    No. Obama needs Putin's cooperation (none / 0) (#33)
    by scribe on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 06:43:07 PM EST
    more than Putin needs anything from Obama.

    This is the grand-strategic analog to a pouting hissyfit.


    Probably a safe bet that this situation (none / 0) (#38)
    by MO Blue on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 07:40:22 PM EST
    will never come up in Deer Trail, CO but you never know.

    Trustees in Deer Trail, a town of just 600, will bring up an ordinance next month that would allow residents to pay $25 for a license to shoot down "unmanned aerial vehicles" flying under 1,000 feet with a 12-gauge shotgun, according to Reuters. Anyone who could produce "either the nose or the tail" of a drone would be paid $100 under the proposal.

    The resident who crafted the measure, Army veteran Phillip Steel, told Reuters that his proposal is symbolic, although he finds the government's use of drones for surveillance purposes disturbing.

    "If you don't want your drone to go down, don't fly it in town," Steel said. link

    Drone Hunting Season! (none / 0) (#39)
    by squeaky on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 07:42:15 PM EST
    Wonder if you will need to get a licence..  great idea.

    Yep, you would need a license (none / 0) (#41)
    by MO Blue on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 07:45:54 PM EST
    It would cost $25.00.

    allow residents to pay $25 for a license to shoot down "unmanned aerial vehicles" flying under 1,000 feet with a 12-gauge shotgun

    Great... (none / 0) (#56)
    by ScottW714 on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 11:02:59 AM EST
    ......now we will have people shooting guns into the sky because the GS drone programs.

    Not for nothing, but the effective range of a shotgun, presumable with shot and not a slug, is about 50ft tops, maybe 100 with a ton of luck, not anywhere near drone territory.

    Why do I think people with use more effective guns with actual bullets instead of ineffectual shotguns.  Bullets that, at some point, will be headed downwards.

    Dumb, dumb, dumb.

    While I hate drones, this is no answer.  Plus what's to keep the Fed/State from going after folks who shoot down their multi-million dollar crafts.


    The 2013 Emmy nominations are out. (none / 0) (#42)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 07:55:59 PM EST
    HBO's 108 overall nominations dominates the list this year, with "Game of Thrones" receiving 16 nods, followed by its critically acclaimed Liberace biopic "Behind the Candelabra," which picked up 15 nominations, including best actor nods for Michael Douglas and Matt Damon, and best director for Steven Soderbergh.

    The PBS series "Downton Abbey" was nominated for best drama series, as well as in all four acting categories: best actor (Hugh Bonneville), best actress (Michelle Dockery), best supporting actor (Jim Carter) and best supporting actress (Dame Maggie Smith). AMC's "Breaking Bad" and Mad Men," HBO's "Game of Thrones," Showtime's "Homeland" and Netflix's "House of Cards" round out the competition in the drama category.

    In comedy, the just-concluded NBC series "30 Rock" scored 13 nominations in its final go-round, including best comedy series, best actress (Tina Fey) and best actor (Alec Baldwin). Its competition this year includes "Modern Family (ABC), "The Big Bang Theory" (CBS), "Girls" (HBO), "Veep" (HBO) and "Louie" (FX).

    Among individual shows, FX's miniseries "American Horror Story: Asylum" led the way today with 17 nominations, including best miniseries / movie,  best actress (Jessica Lange) and two for best supporting actor (James Cromwell and Zachary Quinto). Along with the aforementioned "Behind the Candelabra," HBO's "Phil Spector" is also in the running, as are its lead actors Al Pacino and Helen Mirren and director David Memet.  

    Always fun to note are the perceived Emmy snubs, which this year include Julianna Marguiles ("The Good Wife"), Michael C. Hall ("Dexter"), Jon Cryer ("Two and Half Men"), Eric Stonestreet ("Modern Family"), Steve Buscemi ("Boardwalk Empire"), FX's "Sons of Anarchy" and AMC's popular zombie apocalypse series, "The Walking Dead."

    The ever-popular Neil Patrick Harris will be back again as host for The Emmy Awards, which will air Sept. 22 on CBS.


    Fun, thanks (none / 0) (#48)
    by sj on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 02:15:11 AM EST
    I am surprised about "Behind the Candelabra" though. The cast was amazing and I was really looking forward to it, but it just bored me.

    The 'snub' that upsets me.... (none / 0) (#57)
    by ruffian on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 11:20:33 AM EST
    "Dexter's" Jennifer Carpenter. She is so great. Maybe next year she will get nominated for the final season, in which she is rocking it so far.

    The IRS plot thickens (none / 0) (#50)
    by jbindc on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 07:46:11 AM EST
    Now it appears that the targeting of political groups, mostly conservative, may not just have been the work of a few "line workers in the Cincinnati office" - it appears this may have gone all the way to the Chief Counsel's office.

    And the IG is under fire from both parties.

    Outrage (5.00 / 1) (#53)
    by Dadler on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 09:14:37 AM EST
    What a weird country. Not that this isn't an issue, yet money is the only thing that seems to get us really worked up as a whole. But in a society where human beings matter infinitely less than an inanimate object (or non-object) of no intrinsic value, it's par for the course. Saving money is a good thing, we hear the term all the time, we've internalized it as good; then there saving people, which is just weird, unless you get PAID to do it, then it's okay.

    Such a psychologically dysfunctional place.


    Well (none / 0) (#59)
    by jbindc on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 11:36:00 AM EST
    Since this is a case about the IRS allegedly giving more scrutiny to some groups than others, based on the political leanings, it seems to border along a First Amendment issue as well.

    (Yes, I understand that these groups could get together and not make themselves a 503(c),so the IRS wouldn't be involved, but since that is the set-up our system has in place, this is about inherent fairness in the way these groups are treated).  I daresay tha, if, the next time there is a Republican adminstration, there seems to be a pattern of targeting of liberal groups, then Democrats will rightly be outraged, whereas now, they just seem to shrug.


    DNA links Boston Strangler to last victim (none / 0) (#58)
    by jbindc on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 11:32:23 AM EST

    DNA tests confirm that the man who once claimed to be the Boston Strangler did kill the woman believed to be the serial killer's last victim and was likely responsible for the deaths of the other victims, authorities said Friday.

    Albert DeSalvo admitted to killing Mary Sullivan and 10 other women in the Boston area between 1962 and 1964 but later recanted. He was later killed in prison.

    The DNA finding "leaves no doubt that Albert DeSalvo was responsible for the brutal murder of Mary Sullivan" and it was "most likely" that he also was the Boston Strangler, Massachusetts Attorney General Martha Coakley said.

    Authorities said recently that new technology allowed them to test semen left at the crime scene of Sullivan's death using DNA from a living relative of DeSalvo's. That produced a match with DeSalvo that excluded 99.9 percent of suspects.

    To confirm the match, investigators unearthed his remains a week ago and said Friday that the odds that the semen belonged to a male other than DeSalvo were 1 in 220 billion.

    The way the cops got the DNA is pretty (5.00 / 2) (#71)
    by caseyOR on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 03:08:38 PM EST

    The DNA came from DeSalvo's nephew, who was tailed for days earlier this year by police who confiscated an empty water bottle that he threw into a garbage can.

    And, yeah, I get that what they did was probably legal, but it is still creepy and unsettling. The police tailed DeSalvo's nephew, who was accused of nothing except being related to DeSalvo, tailed him for days until they saw him toss out a water bottle which they then grabbed and used for the DNA test.

    The cops insist that they will not keep the DNA of relatives who are not suspected of a crime on file. Seriously, who believes that? Of course they will keep it. They will just lie about it.


    Especially if they were going to dig him up (5.00 / 1) (#72)
    by ruffian on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 04:25:01 PM EST
    to confirm it anyway, why creep on the nephew?

    So glad Boston has so little crime they were able to settle this twice over.


    It was your federal tax dollars at work (none / 0) (#73)
    by jbindc on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 04:32:50 PM EST
    A spokesman from the Suffolk County district attorney's office said the investigation was funded by a federal grant for cold-case investigations in Boston. The grant helped Boston police resolve seven unsolved homicides.



    Oh great, better yet (none / 0) (#75)
    by ruffian on Fri Jul 19, 2013 at 08:07:49 PM EST
    Nate Silver leaving NYT for ESPN (none / 0) (#77)
    by Dexter on Sat Jul 20, 2013 at 04:10:03 AM EST
    Not surprising?