March Madness, Elite 8 Day 2, Open Thread

The investments:

Louisville -3 over Duke (4 units), Michigan +2 over Florida.

Go Gators!

Yesterday, 0-2 ATS, -7 units (29-23, +18 units for MM.)

Happy Easter!

Open Thread.

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    So, (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by oculus on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 11:12:04 AM EST
    +2 1/2 on U of M:

    If Michigan wins the game by any margin, or loses by no more than 2 points, BTD is a winner. A Michigan loss by 2 points is a push (gets his money back). A Michigan loss by more than 2 points and BTD takes a hit to the wallet?

    But what does the "1/2" add to the equation?  Can't be who gets the first 2 pointer    Free throws?  Fouls?  Flops?  

    GO BLUE!

    A Michigan loss by 2 points is a (none / 0) (#3)
    by NYShooter on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 11:52:00 AM EST

    Add 2 1/2 points to Michigan's score and they win the investment by 1/2 point.


    You were right (none / 0) (#4)
    by Coral Gables on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 12:35:07 PM EST
    on everything but the push. The 1/2 prevents a push. Throw out this sentence "A Michigan loss by 2 points is a push (gets his money back)." and you've got it.

    lol (none / 0) (#6)
    by NYShooter on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 12:56:56 PM EST
    ask BTD how many times that sneaky little "1/2" cost him his wallet, and his shirt.

    The menfolk at Michigan will take of all that for you. Wolverines by 20. I bet you enjoyed every minute of that, didn't you?

    Your Gators have really laid an egg this Easter Sunday, BTD. The one time I'm countin' on them and actually root for them, and they disappoint me big time. Just see if I ever do that again. Oh, well, at least you recouped your investment.

    Until later, ABBOK, everyone. (Anybody But Boeheim Or Krzyzewski.)


    Wow. Duke's Coach K will be very angry ... (none / 0) (#20)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 06:18:47 PM EST
    ... if Louisville fans storm the court after this blowout.

    Watch your language! (none / 0) (#32)
    by oculus on Mon Apr 01, 2013 at 11:55:42 AM EST
    I listened to the second half while walking to see a performance of Ibsen's "A Doll 's House."  Women of the world arise!

    Today is Cesar Chavez Day. It is his birthday. (5.00 / 3) (#9)
    by caseyOR on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 02:39:19 PM EST
    The wingnut sights are all aflutter because Google chose to honor Chavez today instead of putting up a graphic of Jesus.

    For me, speaking for me only, Chavez had a greater impact on the better aspects of the person I have become than did Jesus. My first political affiliation taken by me without my parents' influence was to work with the local United Farm Workers group in my hometown.

    Although the grape boycott began in the fall of 1965, my participation did not begin until two years later when, as a 15 year old high school student, I learned about the boycott and the Farm Workers. I have not eaten a table grape since. (Yes, I know the boycott ended. I just never got in the habit again.)

    Through high school and college and after part of my regular routine involved going to local grocery stores and asking in the produce department to see the packing boxes with the Farm Workers label. If the store did not buy Union picked produce I then proceeded to talk with the produce manager about why he (it was always a man) should choose to buy Union-picked produce.

    This kind of one-on-one activism is very different than taking part in a big march. I am a painfully shy person, during my teen years it was much worse, so talking face-to-face with these adults was hard for me. I stuck it out because I knew what I was doing mattered. As a result, I learned how to present my case concisely, the importance of knowing my facts, and how to politely stand my ground with someone who was skeptical or dismissive or condescending or hostile or all of the above.

    I grew up with New Deal Democrats for parents. My father was a union man. I had a good grounding in the Democratic Party politics of the day. Working with the UFW was a revelation for me. My eyes were opened to the way things really work in this world. The basic political belief that I formed in those early high school years remains my core political belief to this day.

    I believe, and have never seen anything that would change my mind, that the basic political battle is always a battle of economic class. The haves and the have-nots. And the haves will go to quite some extreme to keep the have-nots out.

    So, today I honor Cesar Chavez, and I thank him for opening my eyes and expanding my heart.

    Surely the... (5.00 / 1) (#33)
    by kdog on Mon Apr 01, 2013 at 12:53:58 PM EST
    christian protest organizers realize that Cesar Chavez was a walking, talking, organizing, living example of JC's message.

    Oh never mind...


    A graphic of Jesus... (5.00 / 1) (#35)
    by jondee on Mon Apr 01, 2013 at 01:48:44 PM EST
    why do Americans always insist on making him look like one of the Beach Boys during their acid period?

    Suck it up planet wingnut: he was a hooked nose, swarthy, semite. A "Christ killer". The type that wasn't allowed to live in your neighborhoods, or join your country clubs up until a few decades ago..


    What! No image of Jesus on Easter? (none / 0) (#15)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 03:38:20 PM EST
    Let's fix that, shall we?

    You know what? (5.00 / 2) (#31)
    by sj on Mon Apr 01, 2013 at 11:40:20 AM EST
    This is a comment that didn't need to be made at all.  First, you dismissed the content of casey's comment by taking the least important aspect of what she had to say.  Then you post a link to utter garbage with two videos -- both commercials -- running at the same time and animation everywhere.

    Your "smiley face" notwithstanding, I think you could have found a better place to post your commercial for ... whatever that was.  

    If Cesar Chavez had been Hawaiian rather than Hispanic I expect we would have gotten a history lesson from you rather than ... whatever that was.



    It feels like Jerry Lewis on a bad (5.00 / 1) (#36)
    by Anne on Mon Apr 01, 2013 at 02:09:12 PM EST
    day just did a pratfall all over casey's personal, heartfelt, meaningful comment.

    Some people really put the a$$ in a$$hole, ya know?


    First of all, the "Wingnuts" (none / 0) (#16)
    by NYShooter on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 04:07:18 PM EST
     You refer to certainly are mad at Google, but not for the reason you think. When they saw the name, "Chavez," they immediately thought it was Victor Chavez, late of Venezuelan fame. And, even if the difference was pointed out to them it wouldn't change their attitudes. Mexican (Spanish) + fuhr'ner + Union >>>>Communist Terrorist!

    I think you mean HUGO Chavez. (5.00 / 2) (#18)
    by caseyOR on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 04:15:49 PM EST
    I don't know who Victor Chavez is, but Hugo is the recently departed president of Venezuela.

    Oh, Crapp!! (none / 0) (#19)
    by NYShooter on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 05:41:46 PM EST
    There goes that subliminal mind screwing me up again. For some reason I was reading an article the other day that mentioned the actor, Victor Chavez, and the seed was sown.

    Of course, I know who Cesar, and Hugo Chavez were, and which one is which. And, that's what happens when I try to be too clever by half; my unconscious mind reaches down and throws a curveball right between the eyes.

    Anyway, you get the point.....I hope. lol


    You had an Emily Littella moment. (none / 0) (#23)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 07:05:17 PM EST
    Happens to the best of us when we reach a certain age. "Oh. I see. Never mind."

    Are you sure... (none / 0) (#27)
    by unitron on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 10:20:46 PM EST
    ...that you weren't thinking of Victor Hugo?

    If Cesar's parents had named him "Hay-soos" (spelled Jesus) instead, which, if I'm not mistaken, would not have been particularly unusual for one of his background, wouldn't it have been fun watching the wing nuts trying to decide whether and exactly just how to go about being offended?


    Victor Chavez is ... (none / 0) (#21)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 07:00:06 PM EST
    ... a senior forward on the UCLA men's soccer team, who's majoring in sociology. He's from Fontana, not Venezuela.

    Victor's online profile at the team's website notes that he's 2nd team All-Pac 12, but doesn't say whether or not he's dirty rotten commie scum -- although if he voted for President Obama's re-election last November as did over 70% of Latinos, that's probably close enough for most white wingbats. Heck, just being from California is sufficient reason for their suspicion, as it is.


    You are correct (none / 0) (#29)
    by sj on Mon Apr 01, 2013 at 11:28:14 AM EST
    Some people think all Chavez's are named Hugo.  But casey is ALSO correct and I'm rather sorry you made it an either/or objection.

    I was very happy (none / 0) (#30)
    by sj on Mon Apr 01, 2013 at 11:29:42 AM EST
    to see the Cesar Chavez doodle.  Thanks for saying it all so well.

    Thank you for sharing that with us, casey; (none / 0) (#37)
    by Anne on Mon Apr 01, 2013 at 02:11:41 PM EST
    it really moved me.

    Okay. I've waited 8 days to post this. (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by Angel on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 07:01:48 PM EST
    I'm in a betting pool with 3 other people.  We each got to choose 8 teams out of 32.  We drew numbers for pick order, I was number 4.  So that meant it went 1,2,3,4 and then 4,3,2,1 and again until we had selected all teams.  My roster, in order, was:  Louisville, Indiana, Michigan State, Michigan, Butler, Temple, Minnesota and Wichita State.  (Yes, I like underdogs.)  So, I now have 3 of my teams in the Final Four.  Mr. Angel said the odds of that happening were about a million to one.  I've got $$$ riding on this bet plus another bet that I made for Louisville to win it all with another group (again I was last to choose the team).  Also have a Vegas bet that I made when I was out there in early March before the 32 teams were known.  Bet Louisville to win it all with 5:1 odds.  Wish me luck!!!  

    Good luck. (none / 0) (#24)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 07:11:12 PM EST
    That said, I bet the chump who gave you Louisville at 5:1 isn't feeling so graciously inclined toward you right now.

    Thanks, Donald. The 5:1 was the Las Vegas (none / 0) (#26)
    by Angel on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 08:27:43 PM EST
    bet.  The other bets are money on the table so I'll win the entire $$$ pot if Louisville, Michigan or Wichita State wins the tournament.  

    A little ammunition (none / 0) (#1)
    by Mr Natural on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 09:40:31 AM EST
    Like me, many of you are increasingly bored by the Obama-is-anti-business meme that is regularly and repeatedly trotted out by less imaginative online debaters.  Here's a bit of cognitive dissonance to shove down their throats.

    Unless the judge, Victor Marrero, rejects the settlement between the Securities and Exchange Commission and SAC, which was announced a couple of weeks ago, Cohen will be free to go about his business, which has long been clouded by suspicions of insider trading, once he writes a check of six hundred and sixteen million dollars to the Securities and Exchange Commission. There will be no further sanctions and no admission of wrongdoing. And in fact, Cohen already appears to be celebrating. According to a report in the Times, he has just purchased a Picasso painting, "Le Rêve," for a hundred and fifty-five million dollars, and an ocean-front mansion in East Hampton, for sixty million dollars.


    To me, (none / 0) (#13)
    by desertswine on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 03:19:51 PM EST
    SAC means the Schwantz Athletic Club.

    That's certainly more peaceful than ... (none / 0) (#25)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 07:14:20 PM EST
    ... "Strategic Air Command," which is what I was thinking of.

    It makes me feel dirty, but... (none / 0) (#5)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 12:44:27 PM EST
    Go Gators.

    LOL! (none / 0) (#7)
    by Zorba on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 01:31:00 PM EST
    I don't have a dog in this hunt, so I'm willing to back BTD on this one.

    Michigan is swamping those Gators! (none / 0) (#8)
    by oculus on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 02:22:41 PM EST
    Ah, well (none / 0) (#10)
    by Zorba on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 02:45:37 PM EST
    We'll see.
    At any rate, as I said, I don't really have a dog in this hunt.

    What is up with that? (none / 0) (#11)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 02:56:01 PM EST
    I go up to the roof for a little Easter swim, dose of vitamin D and a sauna and I come back down and find a lopsided game!

    Oh well, at least I don't feel dirty anymore.  Well, at least until I look at my brackets.  


    I am listening to NCAA Global. (none / 0) (#12)
    by oculus on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 03:00:01 PM EST
    But it sounds like Gator radio.

    Apparently, NCAA Global (none / 0) (#17)
    by Zorba on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 04:15:33 PM EST
    picked the wrong horse in this race.
    Congrats to Michigan!

    Upset in Women's NCAA (none / 0) (#28)
    by womanwarrior on Sun Mar 31, 2013 at 10:44:18 PM EST
    Louisville knocked off Baylor.  Really boxed in Brittany Griner and hit lots of 3's.  I forget what BTD predicted.  

    BTD, are you keeping your (none / 0) (#34)
    by oculus on Mon Apr 01, 2013 at 01:30:20 PM EST
    methodology secret?