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Tuesday Morning Open Thread

My picks for March Madness mens bracket below the fold. (Will try the womens bracket this year as well.)

Brackets are not "investments," so I'll be offering my picks (ATS) on the day of the game. For example, today I like Middle Tenn. St. +3 over St Mary's CA (3 units) and North Carolina A&T -2 over Liberty.

Open Thread.

MIDWEST

(1) Louisville (29-5)

(16) NCAT/Liberty Louisville

(8) Colorado St (25-8)

(9) Missouri (23-10) Missouri

(5) Oklahoma St (24-8)

(12) Oregon (26-8) Oklahoma St

(4) Saint Louis (27-6)

(13) New Mex St (24-10) Saint Louis

(6) Memphis (30-4)

(11) MTS/StMarys Memphis

(3) Michigan St (25-8)

(14) Valparaiso (26-7) Michigan St

(7) Creighton (27-7)

(10) Cincinnati (22-11) Cincinnati

(2) Duke (27-5)

(15) Albany (24-10) Duke

WEST

(1) Gonzaga (31-2)

(16) Southern (23-9) Gonzaga

(8) Pittsburgh (24-8)

(9) Wichita St (26-8) Pittsburgh

(5) Wisconsin (23-11)

(12) Ole Miss (26-8) Wisconsin

(4) Kansas St (27-7)

(13) BST/LaSalle Kansas St

(6) Arizona (25-7)

(11) Belmont (26-6) Arizona

(3) New Mexico (29-5)

(14) Harvard (19-9) New Mexico

(7) Notre Dame (25-9)

(10) Iowa St (22-11) Iowa St

(2) Ohio St (26-7)

(15) Iona (20-13) Ohio St

SOUTH

(1) Kansas (29-5)

(16) W Kentucky (20-15) Kansas

(8) N Carolina (24-10)

(9) Villanova (20-13) Villanova

(5) VCU (26-8)

(12) Akron (26-6) VCU

(4) Michigan (26-7)

(13) S Dakota St (25-9) Michigan

(6) UCLA (25-9)

(11) Minnesota (20-12) Minnesota

(3) Florida (26-7)

(14) NW State (23-8) Florida

(7) San Diego St (22-10)

(10) Oklahoma (20-11) San Diego St

(2) Georgetown (25-6)

(15) Florida GC (24-10) Georgetown

EAST

(1) Indiana (27-6)

(16) LIUB/JMU Indiana

(8) NC State (24-10)

(9) Temple (23-9) Temple

(5) UNLV (25-9)

(12) California (20-11) UNLV

(4) Syracuse (26-9)

(13) Montana (25-6) Syracuse

(6) Butler (26-8)

(11) Bucknell (28-5) Butler

(3) Marquette (23-8)

(14) Davidson (26-7) Marquette

(7) Illinois (22-12)

(10) Colorado (21-11) Colorado

(2) Miami FL (27-6)

(15) Pacific (22-12) Miami FL

My Sweet Sixteen -

Louisville-St. Louis

Michigan St.-Duke

Pitt-Wisconsin

New Mexico-Ohio State

Villanova-Michigan

Florida-San Diego State

Indiana-Syracuse

Marquette-Miami

Elite Eight

Louisville-Michigan State

Pitt-Ohio State

Michigan-Florida

Indiana-Marquette

Final Four

Louisville-Ohio State

Florida-Indiana

Championship Game

Louisville-Florida

Champion - Louisville.

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    As a warmup before March Madness (5.00 / 2) (#4)
    by CoralGables on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 10:15:00 AM EST
    Celtics/Heat last night

    I just can't get enough of this

    Beijing to Moscow in 4 minutes (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by Dadler on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 11:19:12 AM EST
    10 (5.00 / 2) (#56)
    by lentinel on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 05:46:35 PM EST
    years ago, the Bush administration began its horrific bombardment of Iraq. It was billed as "shock and awe". As if it was a spectacle to be observed by an admiring throng, instead of an unconscionable raining of death upon the innocent.

    Bush, Cheney have been immunized from prosecution by the Obama administration.

    Obama has said that it is time to, "move on". By that, he means that Bush and Cheney and the rest of those who lied to us and manipulated us and caused so many deaths to Iraqis and Americans will never be brought to justice.

    This is subjective, but to me, this would be similar to the new head of a post-WW2 Germany decreeing that there would be no Nuremberg trials because it was time to "move on".

    Had there been no trials, Germany would never have moved on.
    If France had not come to terms with the segment of its society that collaborated with the Nazis, they could not have moved on.

    And until we recognize the nature of our government, how it can manipulate us, how it can use the press, how it can intimidate legislators of both parties, we can not move on.

    We have let those who perpetrated the war in Vietnam to go either unscathed, or to be awarded points for some domestic programs. But those people lied us into a war. They caused untold deaths in Vietnam and over 50,000 young Americans to lose their lives. For a lie. For an agenda.

    They were never brought to book.

    And I believe the fact that they were not, and the manner in which they operated has never been publicly acknowledged by people in power, I believe that facilitated Bush and his fellow travelers in doing the same to us once again.

    Similarly, turning an unseeing eye to the evil perpetrated upon us and hundreds of thousands of others by the invasion and occupation of Iraq, is not "moving on". It is insuring that the mechanism of war for profit, for an agenda, remains intact.

    I think you are right (5.00 / 2) (#60)
    by shoephone on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 06:24:01 PM EST
    about this:

    This is subjective, but to me, this would be similar to the new head of a post-WW2 Germany decreeing that there would be no Nuremberg trials because it was time to "move on".

    Had there been no trials, Germany would never have moved on.


    and this:

    And I believe the fact that they were not, and the manner in which they operated has never been publicly acknowledged by people in power, I believe that facilitated Bush and his fellow travelers in doing the same to us once again.

    And it makes my stomach hurt to have to agree with it. Such blatant corruption and moral turpitude -- in  view of so many who did absolutely nothing to stop it -- ranks right up there with the worst of American history. And all the news specials yesterday and today focusing on the Iraq invasion have just made my blood boil. Having to listen to audio of Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld all over again is a punishment we should not have to suffer.

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    How to be on both sides of an issue. (5.00 / 2) (#103)
    by lentinel on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 12:45:57 AM EST
    The good old NYTimes had an editorial on Tuesday.

    In it, they said,

    The Iraq war was unnecessary, costly and damaging on every level. It was based on faulty intelligence manipulated for ideological reasons.

    OUT.

    Then, they say,

    But (Iraq) is a front line in the conflict between moderate Islam and Al Qaeda, not to mention its role as an oil producer. It requires more sustained American involvement than we have recently seen.

    IN.

    And, of course, they don't mention their own role in greasing the skids for this mess...

    That was then. This is now. (none / 0) (#104)
    by oculus on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 01:14:48 AM EST
    We created the present dilemma.

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    Now (5.00 / 1) (#106)
    by lentinel on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 07:36:57 AM EST
    is a little too much like then, imo.

    At least now the NYTimes is openly talking about oil.

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    So if you beat someone to near death.... (5.00 / 1) (#111)
    by Dadler on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 10:40:12 AM EST
    ...we should expect they will appreciate our presence there? Our inexcusable, unforgivable and murderous acts render our opinions meaningless. And I do mean MEANingless. When you are a homicidal and utterly thoughtless gun, what do you expect? We phucked up as no nation that claims to be as glorious as we are should.

    We have created a monster which we cannot, in any way, help to stop. Short of mass murder like you have never seen. We screwed the pooch and left it for dead. THIS is what you get when you simply cannot leave people alone.

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    So this is what... (5.00 / 6) (#115)
    by kdog on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 01:31:29 PM EST
    a representative of the people sounds like...

    "If we started in 1960, and we said [that] as productivity goes up, that is as workers are producing more -- then the minimum wage was going to go up the same. And if that were the case, then the minimum wage today would be about $22 an hour,"

    "So my question is . . . What happened to the other $14.75? It sure didn't go to the worker."

    "During my Senate campaign, I ate a No. 11 at McDonald's many, many times a week and I know the price on that one, $7.19," she said. "According to the data on the analysis of what would happen if we raised the minimum wage to $10.10 over three years, the price increase on that item would be about four cents, so instead of being $7.19 it would be $7.23. Are you telling me that's unsustainable?"

    - Senator Elizabeth Warren

    Isn't she just lovely?  She might wanna keep that Mickey D's bit to herself though, the Emperor of NYC might have an arrest warrant issued;)

    22 per hour might be too low, as noted in the link another cat testified that if the min. wage rised at the same rate as 1%er wealth, it would be 33 bucks an hour today.  Of course Liz isn't suggesting we raise the min. wage to $22, just giving us some excellent food for thought and moving the debate in the right direction.

    She gives people ways to think about (5.00 / 2) (#116)
    by Anne on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 01:41:53 PM EST
    and look at things that they aren't getting from the media or from most of the politicians - you can almost picture people pausing for a moment before saying, "hey, wait a minute.  Are you telling me that...?" as they wonder about the BS the media and the rest of the politicians have been feeding them a steady diet of for forever.

    It all comes down to money - who has it and who doesn't.

    I'm enormously happy to see that Warren isn't giving up the fight for the people who really have almost no one to fight for them.

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    I bet banksters and grifters... (5.00 / 1) (#117)
    by kdog on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 02:20:06 PM EST
    wish they hadn't opposed her to head the CFPB...worked out very well for us though!  Now working people have a real advocate in the Senate, and one who can break it down in laymens terms so well to counter all that b.s. out there.

    She is one of the select few with a "D" after their name that I could vote.  Getting way ahead of ourselves, but I'd love to see her in the Oval Office one day, should she choose to stomach all that mess for us.  

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    Bet Obama's a little sorry he didn't (5.00 / 2) (#120)
    by Anne on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 02:47:37 PM EST
    nominate her to head up the CFPB, where she might have toiled in relative anonymity and been hamstrung by bureaucracy...

    She has a bigger stage and a more powerful microphone in the Senate, and she's not shy about using them.  Doesn't seem the least bit intimidated or cowed by her rookie status, either.

    I may not necessarily agree with her on all issues, but this is an area where a strong voice is sorely needed, and hers is very much welcome.

    Parent

    I bet Warren was a great professor. If her (5.00 / 2) (#124)
    by caseyOR on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 04:06:02 PM EST
    classroom lectures  were have as good as her Senate comments, her class must have been excellent.

    Parent
    Right on, Dylan Rattigan (5.00 / 1) (#126)
    by shoephone on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 04:42:47 PM EST
    He and his wife are starting a hydroponic organic farm business. I love this story:

    Our intention is to create real value and good jobs in countless American communities, by harnessing the power of the 1% of Americans who served in the past decade of war.  These high capacity people have already demonstrated their unique ability to be trained and subsequently serve with distinction under most arduous and demanding of conditions, and we can leverage those qualities and skills against some of our greatest needs.  We have begun redeploying returning veterans and unemployed civilians to US cities, while coordinating with city, state and federal governments to create good jobs providing local, fresh food, reduced energy waste and pollution, improved wellness and rebuild infrastructure.

    With more than a decade of war winding down, we have a wealth of returning veterans. This gives us a unique and powerful opportunity to refocus their training on transitioning our nation to sustainable systems, as they transition themselves from military to civilian life.



    Wondered what happened to him (none / 0) (#127)
    by brodie on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 05:23:59 PM EST
    And he's checking a lot of very good boxes there with his venture.  I wish him success.

    I miss his Msnbc show, imperfect though it was with his tendency to speak in Proustian-like overly complex paragrahp-sentences as well as his habit of trying to carve out a safe spot in the political middle while claiming the usual Beltway "both sides are guilty".  I think it's the British guy who replaced him with a show not nearly as textured and varied as Dylan's, even as I agree more with the Brit's pov.

    Almost as much I miss one of Dylan's regular panelists, the delightful and very watchable Imogen Lloyd Weber.

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    Hmmm... (5.00 / 1) (#138)
    by jbindc on Thu Mar 21, 2013 at 08:47:52 AM EST
    The new pope and gay marriage:

    Argentina was on the verge of approving gay marriage, and the Roman Catholic Church was desperate to stop that from happening. It would lead tens of thousands of its followers in protest on the streets of Buenos Aires and publicly condemn the proposed law, a direct threat to church teaching, as the work of the devil.

    But behind the scenes, Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio, who led the public charge against the measure, spoke out in a heated meeting of bishops in 2010 and advocated a highly unorthodox solution: that the church in Argentina support the idea of civil unions for gay couples.

    The concession inflamed the gathering -- and offers a telling insight into the leadership style he may now bring to the papacy.

    Few would suggest that Cardinal Bergoglio, now Pope Francis, is anything but a stalwart who fully embraces the church's positions on core social issues. But as he faced one of the most acute tests of his tenure as head of Argentina's church, he showed another side as well, supporters and critics say: that of a deal maker willing to compromise and court opposing sides in the debate, detractors included.

    The approach stands in sharp contrast to his predecessor, Benedict XVI, who spent 25 years as the church's chief doctrinal enforcer before becoming pope, known for an unbending adherence to doctrinal purity. Francis, by comparison, spent decades in the field, responsible for translating such ideals into practice in the real world, sometimes leading to a different approach.

    Now, according to the article:

    Cardinal Bergoglio's readiness to reach out across the ideological spectrum and acknowledge civil unions for gay people could raise expectations that he would do the same as pope. But some of this strategic flexibility may have stemmed as much from Francis' position at the time as from his personal ideology.

    And of course, I don't expect any cataclysmic shift in church policy with respect to gay marriage, but this gives me hope that the pope is someone who is at least willing to listen and engage.

    And (5.00 / 1) (#139)
    by jbindc on Thu Mar 21, 2013 at 09:09:23 AM EST
    He is doing a Holy Thursday mass, usually something reserved for St. Peters' Square, in a youth jail.

    (Reuters) - Pope Francis will hold a major ceremony next week in the chapel of a youth prison instead of in the Vatican or a Rome basilica where it has been held before, the Vatican said on Thursday.

    Francis will conduct the Holy Thursday afternoon service at the Casal del Marmo jail for minors on Rome's outskirts.

    During the service, the pope washes and kisses the feet of 12 people to commemorate Jesus's gesture of humility towards his apostles on the night before he died.



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    Oh my (none / 0) (#140)
    by sj on Thu Mar 21, 2013 at 09:25:48 AM EST
    I'm actually quite moved by this.

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    I have so not followed (none / 0) (#1)
    by jeffinalabama on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 09:59:45 AM EST
    college hoops this season I'm embarrassed. Last time I played poker was in Florida in late January $1/$3 limit table. I dropped about a hundred. I just don't enjoy limit.

    But new meds should give me some strength. I've been too tired to concentrate, and I'd rather not play than play poorly. I don't play for fun.

    BTD, is Bovada still full of people who spread their money around? I may take a look at their Omaha tables. Played in early january at a PL Omaha Hi Lo on bovada, ended the session feeling good. Played about 1/2 hour too long, so the winnings weren't as good as they should have been.

    but I'm rusty, so I need to go up a limit, force myself to pay attention or fold. Other folks might say drop down, but I say rehab with the better ones, then massacre the mediocre ones. How has basketball treated you?

    Bovada is pretty much the same (none / 0) (#2)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 10:06:05 AM EST
    Money to be had with patience and just solid play. IF you are good, well, you can make a living at it.

    Up and down with basketball.

    Actually I'm killing it with soccer.

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    I'd love som soccer advice. (none / 0) (#3)
    by jeffinalabama on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 10:15:00 AM EST
    Since it has been 6 weeks, I'll hit some Bovada NL Texas Hold 'em today, and either win or lose a decent amount. I'll let you know. Weekdays the Omaha tables might be slow.

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    Dortmund in Champions League (none / 0) (#15)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 11:56:27 AM EST
    Great price.

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    Speaking of meds.... (none / 0) (#108)
    by unitron on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 08:23:18 AM EST
    ...Jeff, you might get some entertainment/amusement out of my fellow TiVo Community Forum poster justapixel's blog.

    http://www.butdoctorihatepink.com/

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    Oh, as to make a living at it, (none / 0) (#5)
    by jeffinalabama on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 10:19:51 AM EST
    I just don't enjoy it enough to grind that long. But I may have to start enjoying it enough. I'm setting up my computer so I'll have about 6 windows of poker open on 2 screens, and 1 window devoted to TL. Maybe I should start reading some of the sites on the blogroll.

    Anyone heard from Dadler or Jim lately? Got emails from Dadler and Jim a while ago, then got tired... I need to email them back. I need to tell folks that there's an email to reach me listed on the site.

    Even if I don't check it too often, I do check it.

    That's always been my problem... (none / 0) (#6)
    by kdog on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 10:38:55 AM EST
    playing "right" is so f8ckin' boring...I've come to the conclusion I've got way too much gamble in me to ever be any good;)

    Dadler is around most everyday...PPJ every couple days or so.

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    TY brother k (none / 0) (#9)
    by jeffinalabama on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 10:47:37 AM EST
    I'm going to send you a message later today by email. Still the same one?

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    Sir yes sir... (none / 0) (#12)
    by kdog on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 10:52:18 AM EST
    look forward to it!

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    Dadler (none / 0) (#7)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 10:39:06 AM EST
    has been around. Jim, I have not seen recently.

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    Thanks, Ga6 (none / 0) (#10)
    by jeffinalabama on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 10:48:01 AM EST
    you never know, so it's good to ask!

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    Skyfall (none / 0) (#8)
    by lentinel on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 10:40:20 AM EST
    I just had the occasion to watch the latest James Bond film, "Skyfall".

    A real nothing, imo. Dud city.

    It seemed like a film that was simply designed to introduce  replacements for some of the ongoing characters - and to set us up for yet another sequel.

    Not me.

    Done.

    I know. What did I expect...

    Quality Films (5.00 / 1) (#68)
    by P3P3P3P3 on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 08:08:10 PM EST
    may I suggest movies outside the mass market Hollywood industry, those that won "film festival awards"

    >the Academy award for Best Documentary was for "Searching For Sugarman"

    > "The Other dream Team"

    in some theaters currently there is "Lore", "Barbara" , "No" , "Beyond The Hills"

    Happy Trailers

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    I saw some of those (none / 0) (#102)
    by shoephone on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 11:41:29 PM EST
    I loved "Searching For Sugarman." Great premise for a documentary, and everyone walked out of the theater singing that incredibly melodic title song. The only thing that seemed incongruous to me was that at his comeback concert in South Africa, there was only one black person in an audience of thousands of white people. I mean, this is the guy that gave hope to all those fighting apartheid...

    "Lore" and "Barbara" were both excellent--understated and powerful. Pretty sad films though.

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    Glad (none / 0) (#110)
    by P3P3P3P3 on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 09:47:44 AM EST
    you saw it and liked it too, I understand the lack of persons of color because it was white youth protest songs, American Hippies had 'em, when the torch is passed to the next generation, they put their fingerprints on them, nations seem to evolve from a cycle like: poverty to disciplined work ethic to prosperity to complacency, decadence and indulgence to decline, the Korean War ended some 60 years ago and South Korea's rise has been exceptional compared to its northern neighbor

    there is the theme of repressive regimes (definitely sad) eventual demise as in most of those flicks, "No" used TV infomercials, and I have to say, their jingle "Chile, Happiness Is Coming" was the most emotionally moving to me, positive and uplifting, reminding me of John Lennon's "all we are saying, is give peace a chance"

    "The Other Dream Team's" power is basketball, Lithuania newly liberated from the Soviet Union defeats Russia in the Olympics, reminds me of Jesse Owens in the Berlin Olympics, asserting self, country and cause (interesting, one black person and a full court of whites ;-)  

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    Thank you (none / 0) (#112)
    by sj on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 11:28:12 AM EST
    I'm now totally intrigued by "Searching for Sugarman" and I'm going to watch it for sure. Your other recommendations appear to be links to video and I have no sound card in my work machine.  

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    I liked ... (5.00 / 2) (#83)
    by desertswine on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 09:52:13 PM EST
    the explosions.  They blowed up some stuff real good.

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    I'm psyched to check out... (none / 0) (#11)
    by kdog on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 10:51:24 AM EST
    Harmony Korine's new film, "Spring Breakers".  

    Loved "Kids" and "Gummo".

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    What did you expect? (none / 0) (#16)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 12:15:14 PM EST
    Well, for starters, I think you expected to complain. Surely, you weren't expecting a James Bond film to be the equivalent of Citizen Kane, 3:10 to Yuma and Dr. Zhivago.

    Personally, when I see a Bond film, I expect a lot of rousing action, hair-raising stunts, high-tech gadgetry, a bevy of beautiful women in spectacular locations, and a fastmoving (and occasionally implausible) storyline. Based upon that criteria, I thought Skyfall went 4-for-4 and hit for the cycle.

    And really, since the release of Skyfall marked the 50th anniversary of the Bond series franchise, I find it rather silly to publicly lament the prospect of yet another installment (not a sequel), when it's already been done 22 times prior.

    The primary difference between Skyfall and the other Bond films was its much darker script, which pivoted around James Bond's complicated professional relationship with his boss M, a demanding and imperious woman who's become the once-orphaned 007's mother figure.

    Further, even though the bad guy dies at the end and 007 is still standing as always,  Skyfall arguably marked the very first time that James Bond actually failed to carry out his primary mission, which in this instance -- SPOILER AHEAD -- was to save M from the clutches of a rogue MI6 agent who was hellbent on seeking her demise. In that regard, M's death in Bond's arms provided an emotional climax that was intended by the screenwriters to be wholly unexpected by the audience, given that one does not generally anticipate emotion to come into play in Bond films. (Did that aspect bother you?)

    Further, at 76 years of age, Dame Judi Dench has been playing M for 17 years, and it was time to retire her character and introduce a new M. Skyfall afforded her the opportunity to step out from behind her desk and go out in style. And in the end, she proved herself to be the baddest Bond girl of the all.

    Perfect is always the enemy of the good, lentinal. Skyfall has received critical accaim, and has a 91% public approval rating on Rotten Tomatoes. Perhaps you need to lower your expectations, your sites and your guard.

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    "Critical acclaim"? (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by shoephone on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 12:35:43 PM EST
    Who really cares? I agree with him--I thought it was overblown dreck. And I've enjoyed other Daniel Craig Bond films, particularly "Casino Royale" though it also began with a ridiculous 20-minute chase scene.

    "Skyfall" seemed interminable to me. It was about 30 minutes too long, and frankly, Javier Bardem was not scary in the least. Maybe the Bond franchise just needs to be over, because I was more bored than anything else watching "Skyfall."

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    it is funny (none / 0) (#22)
    by nyjets on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 01:19:30 PM EST
    I have seen all of the sean connery, roger moore, timothy dalton, and pierce bronson movies. WHile they are not all great I felt that they were all james bond flicks. Even the dalton moves managed to capture the spirit of the james bond character (though less so comared to the other 3).
    Based on what little I have seen of the  Daniel Craig however, that spirit is gone. Craig bond movies are just action flicks with high body counts.
    And I have to be honest, there are some rules in movies that should not be broken. One rule is, YOU DO NOT KILL M ON SCREEN.

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    What Did I Expect ? (none / 0) (#25)
    by ScottW714 on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 01:38:20 PM EST
    (spoilers below)

    I expected a damn good movie considering that that everyone I know and in the media said it was easily the best Bond movie ever made.

    I feel asleep and woke up near the end.  The next day I re watched that part I missed thinking I must have slept through the best part, just the opposite.

    It's doesn't deserve the James Bond brand IMO.  And while JB movies always play fast and loose with reality, parts of this movie were so ridiculous impossible to believe, that it made the entire story line weak.  Closer to magic than the normal heroic feats of near impossibility.

    And since you mentioned it, a veteran MI6 agent just sitting in a pew with her back to the door while a whole group of bad guys chased after them in a house w/i view.  Yeah don't look out the windows, but make sure the flashlight does so they know where you are, make sure your back is to the door, and don't carry you service revolver.  Donald, that didn't seem ridiculously unbelievable ?  I was shocked it wasn't trick because it was so dumb.

    Ditto for the scene in which M yelled shoot and JB got shot.  WTF, did GWB take over her mind, because no one in their right mind is going to demand a shooter, shoot, when they say they don't have a shot and JB is involved.  They didn't even bother with trying to explain how certain death was avoided, he just shows up with a scar.  Must hired those Dallas dream sequence writers.

    The entire movie was like that, they wanted a nighttime fight with 20 bad guys, so they did it, never mind the chopper could never hold 20 bad guys or that it had been day time when the chopper was visible, two mins later, it's the dead of night.

    The only reason I wouldn't rate it the worse JB is because the special effects of 2013 on bluray make it visually stimulating and I hate watching anything pre 80's because the quality is distracting.

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    I love Dame Dench (none / 0) (#72)
    by kmblue on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 08:44:54 PM EST
    and I will miss her. I haven't seen a lot of the Bond films, but I liked Skyfall because it explored emotions.
    Plus I'm in love with Daniel Craig, who nailed the award for "most unexpected line" in the movie.

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    I (none / 0) (#79)
    by lentinel on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 09:16:21 PM EST
    like Daniel Craig too.

    That's partially why I was interested in seeing the film.

    He reminds me a little of Steve McQueen.


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    Funny you should mention Steve McQueen (none / 0) (#118)
    by sj on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 02:29:25 PM EST
    I was looking at the free movies available in On Demand and found The Magnificent Seven.  It was great to watch a vintage western.  And I've always loved Yul Brynner's voice.

    Then I saw that the sequels were also available.  A quick search of the internet showed what may be one reason why: a remake is said to be in the works.  With Tom Cruise, yet.  That makes me a little sad, somehow.  Well, maybe it won't happen.

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    Well I wish my cable system (none / 0) (#129)
    by brodie on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 05:37:49 PM EST
    would put a few more classic free movies on its Demand list.

    The Magnificent Seven is one of my 5 favorite all-time westerns, right up there with Shane, The Big Country, and The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance.  Best musical score of them all.

    I kinda enjoyed also reading about some of the backstory to that film and how McQ constantly tried to upstage Brenner in their scenes together.  Apparently this really annoyed the bigger star of the time Yul.   End result though was McQ well ahead on points, turning in a rather cool depiction of a gun for hire with a sense of humanity.  Brenner looked rather stiff by contrast.

    As for Cruise in a possible remake, all I can say is better him than, say, Tom Hanks, who's on my enemies list at the moment.  I thought Cruise did well as that Col Von Stauffenburg in the Valkyrie movie.  Good actor, and stronger screen presence than Hanks.

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    You think so? (none / 0) (#130)
    by sj on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 05:59:25 PM EST
    End result though was McQ well ahead on points, turning in a rather cool depiction of a gun for hire with a sense of humanity.  Brenner looked rather stiff by contrast.

    I thought Yul Brenner -- sorry, he's not a one-name kind of guy in my book :) -- had a kind of somber and ethical dignity.  I loved McQueen's Vin, too, though.

    Whoa, Tom Hanks!  Can't see him in that character.  Maybe Jeremy Renner?  I don't know.  I'd have to think about that.  Why is Tom Hanks in on your enemies list, by the way?

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    But speaking of back stories (none / 0) (#131)
    by sj on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 06:09:20 PM EST
    I still wonder why John Ford didn't put Gene Pitney's song on the soundtrack to "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence".  To me, it seems perfect for the closing credits.

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    Had to try to work in a slam on Hanks (none / 0) (#132)
    by brodie on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 06:25:58 PM EST
    in that post, even though I too don't see him in the role.

    It has to do with learning recently he is producing a film project due out later this year based on a lousy, dishonest book backing the dubious Warren Report.

    From what I've seen lately in other ventures, Hanks has been spending a fair amount of time lately cozying up to the poltical-historical-media establishment.  For instance, narrating for another lousy venture, the History Channel's recent showing of Killing Lincoln, based on the O'Reilly waste-of-trees  book.

    As for the Pitney song, I always thought that had something to do with legal entanglements, but not sure.  Remind me to look that up as soon as I post this ...

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    Thanks (none / 0) (#78)
    by lentinel on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 09:13:17 PM EST
    for the advice, Don.

    I'll keep it in mind the next time I go to the cinema.

    Let's see if I got it right:
    Don't expect perfect. It is the enemy of the good. Check.
    Respect critical acclaim. Right.
    High public approval ratings on Rotten Tomatoes should be enough to temper any thoughts of negativism. Gotta go with that.
    Keep "sites" and guard low. Ok.
    And keep expectations even lower. That's the best idea yet.

    It's a whole new world.

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    Yeah, kinda so much for the (5.00 / 1) (#114)
    by brodie on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 12:29:49 PM EST
    critical acclaim in my opinion too.  But being slightly inclined towards contrariness or going against the grain, I suppose it's not unexpected I would have been a tad underwhelmed by this movie.

    But it did serve to get me through much of a recent grueling 3-hour domestic flight on United on the older type plane with the wimpy screens set up above the aisle.  Explosions and shootings and lotsa action, as you indicate.  Plus the incongruities, which have also been noted -- most glaring, the Densch character ordering a very risky shoot to kill order from her second-hand remote perspective.  Almost as if she didn't care if Bond were killed, just so she could get out of her predicament and move on.

    I don't mind Daniel Craig as Bond, but just from this one movie, I don't see much resembling the class and charm that Connery brought to the role.  Steve McQueen is indeed a proper comparison, the rather tough guy rough edges type who belongs on a Harley.  Connery fit perfectly in that silver Austin-Martin.

    But hey, whatever gets me through the flight ...

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    DirecTV Genie (none / 0) (#13)
    by Slado on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 11:05:33 AM EST
    After laughing at the commercials a few dozen time I decided to upgrade to the latest system.  I have had DirecTV since 1997 when you had to install it yourself.

    I had it installed on Friday and I must say I really like it.

    It is very convenient considering all the stuff I have to record for the kids and being able to let them watch in different rooms the shows that they like and we've recorded is nice.

    Don't worry we do limit their screen time.

    Also the new on Demand and internet features are a big plus and I swear the picture is much better compared to the older receivers I had.

    If you were wondering if it was as good as the commercials in this mans opinion the answer is yes.   i

    March Madness (none / 0) (#18)
    by CoralGables on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 12:45:22 PM EST
    All Nickname Team Finalists:

    Billikens (St Louis)
    Great Danes (Albany)
    Hilltoppers (Western Kentucky)
    Jackrabbits (South Dakota State)
    Shockers (Wichita State)
    Zips (Akron)

    I retain a certain fondness (none / 0) (#20)
    by Zorba on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 01:10:38 PM EST
    for the Billikens, since not only was I born in St. Louis, but Mr. Zorba's mother got her degree there.  Plus, I just like the name "Billikens."   ;-)
    (And they offered me a very nice scholarship when I graduated high school, but I got a better deal elsewhere; if I hadn't, I would have gone to St. Louis U.)

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    Is there a large Greek community (none / 0) (#21)
    by oculus on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 01:16:39 PM EST
    in St. Louis?

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    I believe (none / 0) (#24)
    by CoralGables on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 01:35:26 PM EST
    the Greeks migrated to Popeye's hometown.

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    Please, spare me (none / 0) (#33)
    by Zorba on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 03:15:09 PM EST
    Chester, Illinois, home of "Popeye."  No, they did not migrate there in any numbers wahtsoever.  If you want an indication, there are no Greek restaurants in Chester.  Wherever there are Greeks, there will be Greek restaurants.  Or, at the very least, diners owned by Greeks.    ;-)

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    Speaking of olive oil Zorba (none / 0) (#35)
    by fishcamp on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 03:27:39 PM EST
    I received a gallon or 101 fl oz. which is 202 tbs of LAKONIA Extra Virgin Olive Oil of KALAMATA. and it's delicious.  The oil actually comes from Italy, Greece, Spain, and Tunisia so I guess that's where they grow the Kalamata olives.  This oil has none of the bitter taste I mentioned a few weeks ago and is smooth, slightly fruity and great tasting.  Thanx for the tips.

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    I'm glad (none / 0) (#40)
    by Zorba on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 04:09:42 PM EST
    that you found a "non-bitter" olive oil, fishcamp.  Kalamata extra-virgin olive oil is generally excellent.
    Although I kind of wonder why it had come from Italy, Spain, and Tunisia, besides Greece.  Greece has been really careful about labeling olive oil, similar to the French, who go after anyone who tries to label their sparkling wines "Champagne" if they didn't come from the Champagne region, or "Bordeaux" if it didn't some from "Bordeaux."
    But if you're happy, I'm happy.  
    I usually get my Greek olive oil from a Greek importer that I trust.    ;-)

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    We ate Kalamata olives in Kalamata. (none / 0) (#58)
    by oculus on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 06:11:48 PM EST
    Impostors!

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    Yeah...I felt strange (none / 0) (#76)
    by fishcamp on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 08:58:52 PM EST
    about the four countries that supplied the Kalamata olive oil that I received from my Greek high school girl friend that wasn't able to show up but sent the olive oil.  Then it tasted so good on toasted bakery bread that I didn't mind that it was from four different countries.  Next I went online to Kalamata olive oil and saw one can for $271, so I don't know what the real situation is.  The olive oil I have is delicious and I'm happy.

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    I'm guessing it has something to do with the EU. (none / 0) (#80)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 09:23:42 PM EST
    A country has to apply and receive a trademark under the Trade Marks Directive.  IIRC, France has been granted trademarks for Champagne and Bordeaux as the grapes are "of distinctive character" due to their regional identity.  

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    and Georgia (none / 0) (#81)
    by CoralGables on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 09:38:54 PM EST
    The Vidalia Onion Trademark Act of 1986

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    i had forgotten about that. (none / 0) (#82)
    by jeffinalabama on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 09:45:43 PM EST
    It's a soil type that allows the sweetness. I'm sure some plant breeding goes into it, but the soil around Vidalia has low... sulfur, I think? But there are plenty of other places, including south Texas, with similar soil chemistry.

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    Not huge, like Chicago, (none / 0) (#32)
    by Zorba on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 03:03:57 PM EST
    But yes, there are way more than a few Greek-Americans.  The indicators are that there are two Greek Orthodox churches in the immediate St. Louis are, and one on the Illinois side, not that far away.

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    TalkLeft: gambling headquarters? No, must (none / 0) (#19)
    by oculus on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 01:09:28 PM EST
    think of a really good title.

    Remember, we take no profit from our (none / 0) (#23)
    by jeffinalabama on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 01:33:34 PM EST
    advice, it is for informational and fun purposes only :-P

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    Which, in light of recent events, I appreciate! (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by oculus on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 01:39:02 PM EST
    (Excellent to hear from you Jeff. I'm a born hoverer.).

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    Talkleft...Degenerate Laureates? n/t (none / 0) (#27)
    by kdog on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 01:48:07 PM EST
    Nice ring to it. (none / 0) (#28)
    by oculus on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 01:48:54 PM EST
    An interesting account of the Canadian (none / 0) (#29)
    by oculus on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 02:39:59 PM EST
    Prison break via helicopter.  Query:  would you call a TV station whilst escaping?

    NYT

    Heh - The last guy was trapped ... (none / 0) (#31)
    by Yman on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 02:56:43 PM EST
    ... in a maple syrup shack.

    There's a joke in there, somewhere ...

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    The whole account amused me. (none / 0) (#34)
    by oculus on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 03:16:14 PM EST
    Tony Blair re why deposing (none / 0) (#30)
    by oculus on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 02:53:29 PM EST
    Saddam Hussein was such a good idea:

    NYT

    What an a---hole... (5.00 / 3) (#85)
    by desertswine on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 10:03:22 PM EST
    Yeah, he's saying that we did them a favor by turning their country into a steaming pile of death.  What a criminal.

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    Prepare for awesomeness... (none / 0) (#36)
    by kdog on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 03:29:01 PM EST
    Check out Westboro Baptist's new neighbors!

    Devil Worshippers... (none / 0) (#38)
    by ScottW714 on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 03:40:26 PM EST
    ...would be better, but it would have to be some real hard core Mofo's.

    It's a super cool gesture, but I would rather live next to just about anyone else.  Seeing some of the most despicable human beings on the planet every day would not be good for my psyche.

    But I hope they toss a lot of wild parties that go into Sunday mornings.  I can't imagine the cops show up when WB call.

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    I love their reaction to the hate... (5.00 / 1) (#39)
    by kdog on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 03:52:16 PM EST
    it is a lesson to us all.

    These heroes saw hate and met is head on with love.  They didn't try to censor Westboro or get a legislature to pass a law to censor them or punish them, they didn't resort to violence...they saw, they came, they renovated, and they will conquer in the end...it's only a matter of time.

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    Speaking of (none / 0) (#41)
    by NYShooter on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 04:20:14 PM EST
    how to engage evil:

    "Athlete overcomes rape"

    LINK

    from: The Onion

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    That is Erie Similiar to CNN's... (none / 0) (#44)
    by ScottW714 on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 04:34:49 PM EST
    ...Ohio rape post-trial non-sense.


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    Yeah, some of the comments (none / 0) (#48)
    by NYShooter on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 04:51:51 PM EST
    from the site I got this from mentioned that.

    But, for sure, CNN is not alone is spinning the "news."

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    If I ran CNN (none / 0) (#75)
    by kmblue on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 08:52:00 PM EST
    I would say to "Poppy"--cannot believe that name--

    "You're fired.  I can't have people at CNN making  offensive and ignorant statements about a serious crime. So clean out your desk."

    What a shame, they just hired Poppy away from local news. She might be able to get a job at Fox though.

    Just for the record, I worked in local news.
    I also worked for CNN for eleven years.  They probably won't fire her, but they should.

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    Yeah... (none / 0) (#43)
    by ScottW714 on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 04:30:22 PM EST
    ...they might find a cocktail or two coming through their window of the Molotov sorts.  If these folks live in the neighborhood, there is going to be trouble.

    People who hate gay people so much they protest soldiers funerals aren't people IMO to mess with.  And you can say whatever, they are messing with lunatics in a big way.

    I like your optimism, but I will put a lot of donuts on the line; this will effect WBC's agenda in no way, might even add another layer of hatred/resentment.

    God must really hate them to have the root of all America's problems move in across the street.

    But I gotta give these guys an A+ for effort and ingenuity.

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    Pakistani girl shot by Taliban ... (none / 0) (#37)
    by Yman on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 03:34:39 PM EST
    ... returns to school in England.  

    The Pakistani teen marked for death because she campaigned for girls' education went back to school Tuesday for the first time since a Taliban gunman shot her in the head five months ago, a family spokesperson said.

    Malala Yousafzai is attending classes in Birmingham, England, and not her homeland, where the Taliban had vowed to make another attempt on her life.



    Assault weapons ban dropped ... (none / 0) (#42)
    by Yman on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 04:22:25 PM EST
    ... from Senate gun control bill, along with the high-capacity magazine ban.

    Sad, but not surprising.

    NY Daily News front page response to (5.00 / 1) (#134)
    by caseyOR on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 11:13:54 PM EST
    the Senate dropping the assault weapons ban. I think this cover sums it up pretty well.

    It should be clear that the wishes of the American people matter not a whit to members of Congress, or to most politicians. The American people support tighter restrictions on guns, including a ban on assault weapons. Yet, our politicians cave to the loudmouth bullies of the NRA rather than listening to voters.

    We should all be ashamed.

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    What they're doing is catering to (5.00 / 1) (#136)
    by Anne on Thu Mar 21, 2013 at 06:55:16 AM EST
    their own self-interest: they're afraid the gun-owning voters of their districts will put them out of a job...this is about re-electing Democrats, according to Harry Reid.

    Don't know what good it is to have more Democrats if they are there in service of their own interests, and not those of the people.

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    Maybe all of us gun-control enthusiasts (5.00 / 1) (#137)
    by jbindc on Thu Mar 21, 2013 at 08:23:56 AM EST
    should join the NRA and vote the lunatics like LaPierre out.

    (h/t "The West Wing:  The Portland Trip" episode)

    Congressman Skinner: You know I never understood why you gun control people don't all join the NRA. They've got two million members. You bring three million to the next meeting, call a vote. All those in favor of tossing guns... bam! Move on.

    Josh Lyman: It's a heck of a strategy, Matt. I'll bring that up at a meeting.



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    Of course you're correct (none / 0) (#135)
    by NYShooter on Thu Mar 21, 2013 at 02:15:15 AM EST
    about the shameless betrayal those politicians are willing to lower themselves to, but, in a way, the voters should also share some of the blame.

    Most politicians would sell their families into slavery to retain the power and riches their offices offer, so, when the NRA says they'll rally their troops and vote them out (and they can) unless they do as they're told, not enough voters for the other side bother to turn off the tv long enough to go out and vote.

    It sucks, but that's the way the game is played.


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    Still confused (none / 0) (#47)
    by NYShooter on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 04:48:37 PM EST
    about what they're describing when they refer to "Assault weapons."

    This business of using bumper sticker slogans when promoting a political agenda has been one of my pet peeves for a long time. (see: "Death tax, Death panels, job creators," etc, ad nauseum)

    I have experience with many types of guns and/or weapons and, if it's confusing for me, how is the American public supposed to make intelligent decisions when all they have to work with is inaccurate "jingo words."

    Specifically, re: "assault weapons," are they referring to semi-automatic guns/rifles that look like military weapons, or is there something else? And, I'm not talking about magazine capacity.....that's another issue.

    thanks.

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    I would guess they mean assault weapons (none / 0) (#49)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 04:54:01 PM EST
    of the same definition as those of the previous AWB, which itself was still pretty confusing...

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    So, I guess (none / 0) (#53)
    by NYShooter on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 05:01:00 PM EST
    the assumption is/was that if a person who is psychologically, pre-disposed to committing mass, deadly  violence handles a weapon that looks and feels like the real thing, that might just be the catalyst that turns fantasy into reality?


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    I don't know who's assumption ... (5.00 / 2) (#62)
    by Yman on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 07:08:33 PM EST
    ... you mean, but it sounds like what one cop layed out to a reporter when discussing the investigation into the Sandy Hook shooting.

    "He didn't snap that day, he wasn't one of those guys who was mad as hell and wasn't going to take it anymore," the man said. "He had been planning this thing forever. In the end, it was just a perfect storm: These guns, one of them an AR-15, in the hands of a violent, insane gamer. It was like porn to a rapist. They feed on it until they go out and say, enough of the video screen. Now I'm actually going to be a hunter."

    Not sure why anyone would think that's amusing.

    Interestingly enough, a Johns Hopkins study found that firearms with assault weapon features are disproportionally used in mass shootings and that when used result in higher numbers of casualties.

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    So, an AR15, or assault weapons (none / 0) (#92)
    by NYShooter on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 10:28:51 PM EST
    in general, while not fully automatic, do make rapid fire easier than your standard semi-automatic rifle, correct? Also, the military look & feel may contribute to a pre-disposed shooter actually fulfilling his fantasy. (my take)

    More on this:

    "Adam Lanza drew motivation from Norway's most notorious mass murderer when he opened fire at Sandy Hook Elementary School, CBS News reports by way of two sources. The officials, who have been briefed on the investigation, say Lanza considered himself in competition with Anders Breivik, who bombed and gunned down 77 people in July of 2011. Wanting to out-kill Breivik, Lanza picked Sandy Hook as the "easiest target" containing the "largest cluster of people."
    Lanza had honed his shooting skills by obsessively playing video games in the basement of his family home, and may have considered his death toll of six adults and 20 first graders to be a kind of "score."
    *******

    Police sources, stating that their policy is not to report bits and pieces of their ongoing investigation, say that the video game connection should be considered speculation at this time.

    Link

    link

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    Yep - that's pretty much it (5.00 / 1) (#107)
    by Yman on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 07:43:31 AM EST
    As far as the psychological aspect of a mass shooter, I don't know what role the type of weapon has on their thinking.  It wouldn't surprise me if your theory is correct - that the military look of the assault weapon plays into their fantasy.  He//, I think that's a big reason they've become so popular in general - they're marketed towards men (and young men in particular) and they look "cool", "bad@ss", or whatever.

    While the assault weapons may be slightly better for shooting a large number of rounds very quickly, I think the larger distinction would be between semi-autos equipped with large capacity magazines vs. other action types without.  Personally, I would prefer an outright ban on semi-automatics or at least a ban (no grandfathering) on high capacity magazines (something in the 8-10 round range) - along the lines of what Australia's done.

    But I doubt that it will ever be possible.

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    Not sure (none / 0) (#94)
    by NYShooter on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 10:31:19 PM EST
    ".. why anyone would think that's amusing".....either.

    What were you referring to?

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    Sorry, I wasn't clear (none / 0) (#105)
    by Yman on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 06:41:15 AM EST
    SUO was amused by that comment.

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    A person with a functioning finger (none / 0) (#98)
    by jeffinalabama on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 10:51:45 PM EST
    can fire a 20 round magazine in less than 20 seconds, or a 30 round magazine in less than 30 seconds. As i said on another thread, there's a tendency for the barrel to climb, but I can put, oh, 70 percent of the rounds in a 3 foot square at 100 meters firing 30 rounds in about 40-45 seconds. Some folks are even better than that, tighter groups. Only fire like that to suppress, not to actually hit something, but the grouping makes it better suppressing fire, especially with a fire team or squad doing the same while pointing in the same general direction.


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    Heh. (none / 0) (#54)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 05:06:51 PM EST
    No - "assault weapons" (none / 0) (#61)
    by Yman on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 06:59:51 PM EST
    In the previous ban, the  term included weapons with different at least two features of military weapons, including (depending on the type of gun) folding or telescoping stocks, pistol grips, bayonet mount, flash suppressor (or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one), grenade launcher, magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip, threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor, barrel shroud that can be used as a hand-hold, unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more, semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm (pistol), fixed capacity of more than 5 rounds (shotgun),detachable magazine (shotgun).  Many of these features are designed to make the gun more lethal, either by way of making the gun or shooter more concealable, add additional weapons (bayonet, grenades), or control the weapon while laying down fire rapidly over a wide area i.e. "hosing down" a field of fire (rear pistol grips, forward grips or barrel shrouds).

    While I think these features are hardly (as the NRA derisively refers to them) "cosmetic", I think the much more important features are those that allow a large number of rounds to be fired rapidly - mainly, semi-automatic functions and high-capacity magazines.

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    But... I need my bayonet mount! (5.00 / 1) (#73)
    by jeffinalabama on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 08:47:32 PM EST
    After all, deer have antlers!

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    From (none / 0) (#64)
    by lentinel on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 07:33:32 PM EST
    what I read, the Senate bill would increase penalties for the "illegal" possession or sale of a weapon.

    But the problem has been what has been the killing and wounding  of people by those possessing weapons that have been legally obtained.

    So, it appears to me that we are going nowhere with this, and the slaughter will continue.

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    The law would also ... (none / 0) (#66)
    by Yman on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 07:59:17 PM EST
    ... prohibit the manufacture for civilian use several types of weapons as well as high-capacity magazines - and illegal possession or sale of same.  But you're right, ...

    ... the slaughter will continue.

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    yesterday. The radio pundits said it was a sign that she's going to run for POTUS.

    I don't (none / 0) (#46)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 04:41:57 PM EST
    know if she's going to run but she's free now to say these things no longer being SOS.

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    Oh,yeah (none / 0) (#51)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 04:57:23 PM EST
    but I thought you were talking about recently.

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    Yeah, I was. Your comment made me think (5.00 / 1) (#52)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 04:59:35 PM EST
    of whether she was "free" to speak of such things earlier...

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    Yep... (5.00 / 2) (#109)
    by unitron on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 08:29:38 AM EST
    ...just like she was free to speak out against the Iraq blunder 10 years ago.

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    Cyprus (none / 0) (#55)
    by sj on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 05:18:44 PM EST
    has rejected the punish-the-people bank bailout.  So now what?

    Well, no one knows at this moment (5.00 / 1) (#59)
    by NYShooter on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 06:23:31 PM EST
    They may try to recalculate the percentages of the "haircuts" different levels of depositors pay.

    They may appeal to German Chancellor Merkel to show true Statesmanship in light of the damage so many innocent people face.......in spite of German elections coming up soon.
            (that was a joke, btw)

    They might reassess the temporary psychosis that gripped  the leaders of this tiny country  in believing they could grab the Russian Mafia's money and that the Russians would "understand" since it was done "under the rule of law." (I think they're referring to it as the "WTF were we thinking bill" in their private deliberations)

    The thing that absolutely will not happen is that the international banks, and the funding agencies like the IMF, that caused the whole problem in the first place, stand up, accept responsibility, and structure a plan that's honest, workable, and fair.

    But, imo, the most realistic outlook as it stands now, is that Cypress will default, leave the EU (or be kicked out)  and, after the resulting chaos, anarchy, and violence  subsides, a right-wing savior will emerge, and what happens then, your guess is as good as anyone else's.

    Historically, that's Europe's way.  


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    It will certainly be (none / 0) (#57)
    by Zorba on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 06:03:21 PM EST
    interesting.  I wish I knew.
    I think that the Cypriot Parliament was worried about, not just a run on the banks, but outright rioting in the streets.  I do kind of wonder, though, about the 19 MP's who "abstained" from the vote.

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    You know since I'm thinking... (none / 0) (#113)
    by sj on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 11:59:29 AM EST
    ... about the "Fires of Hell" today, it occurs to me that Angela Merkel should burn in them.  I can't believe the power that woman has to ruin nations, just to make sure that hers maintains the illusion of health.  It can't be healthy for real -- not with this much sickness around it.

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    American 401K (none / 0) (#71)
    by P3P3P3P3 on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 08:44:32 PM EST
    Hillary Clinton, back in the day, proposed forcing 401k accounts to buy Government Bonds, as I recall, Muni Bonds like Detroit's and other near bankrupt cities (or States like mine:Illinois)

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    You recall wrong (none / 0) (#74)
    by CoralGables on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 08:51:47 PM EST
    well.... (none / 0) (#119)
    by P3P3P3P3 on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 02:42:01 PM EST
    I couldn't come up with a reputable link, instead this is one on Rahm Emanuel's Infrastructure Trust , Bill Clinton supports an Infrastructure Bank , Union Pension Fund money is used sometimes with a political purpose, I am weary of another sort of Mortgage Backed Securities scamming Bond Holders, I should mention Illinois is about the worst State for Pension Fund deficit in the nation, not sure if you are aware  Rahm Emanuel worked at the scandal plagued Freddie Mac, which had to be taken over by the Federal Government/Taxpayers

    I prefer issues and character over political parties, there is far too much corruption, it was Bill Clinton that did away with Glass-Steagall and Obama took on Larry Summers, when things are done right in the Government-Private partnership it truly can benefit, as in the case of the Bank Of North Dakota

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    Rahm Emanuel served as ... (none / 0) (#125)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 04:07:39 PM EST
    ... a member of Freddie Mac's board of directors for all of 13 months. In that regard, one can say that he and his fellow board members failed in their fiduciary duties to provide proper oversight and accountability for the mortgage giant.

    That said, while the political temptation to hold Emanuel responsible for what happened at Freddie Mac is undoubtedly irresistible, the relative brevity of his 13-month tenure on the board renders it practically impossible for him to have had any sort of significant impact on corporate policy while there.

    Further, the SEC doesn't even mention him in its report, lending credence to my notion that his presence at Freddie Mac was both minimal and nondescript.

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    Freddie Mac (none / 0) (#128)
    by P3P3P3P3 on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 05:31:03 PM EST
    was sorta used by both Rep and Dems as a patronage place, feeding heavily off the public, their stock bonus was given up front, its just how political cronyism operates, sure he left to run for a Congressional seat, when opportunity calls, there is booty on the other end.....

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    It's not just Freddie Mac. (none / 0) (#133)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 10:40:31 PM EST
    Much the same thing happened in the private sector, as well. I mean, what qualified Dick Cheney to be Chairman and CEO of Halliburton, or Dick Gephardt to land well-compensated consulting jobs with Boeing and Medicines, Unc.?

    Having worked in politics directly for some time now, I can't begin to tell you how many times I've seen private corporations and companies either hire the politically well-connected to a do-nothing position or appoint them to their governing boards, simply to ensure continued access to the "booty," as you so crudely but appropriately termed it.

    Becoming a corporate board member was the ultimate cushy position, often handsomely paid yet mostly requiring little or no effort on one's part, save for being a yes-man at board meetings and making the occasional phone or office call to Capitol Hill or the Statehouse on behalf of the company.

    And as we recently saw with the scandal at Susan G. Komen for the Cure Foundation (where Ari Fleischer and other well-connected Republicans had scored lucrative consulting gigs), even not-for-profit corporations and organizations aren't necessarily immune from pressure to engage in patronage appointments and political influence peddling.

    Thankfully, that's all begun to change, although our country actually had to suffer an economic meltdown for people to realize that board members need to be held accountable for both the decisions taken by the board as a whole and for the activities of the corporate management.

    Part of my own work as a business consultant for not-for-profit organizations and philanthropists entails training boards of directors for nonprofits, where corporate governance reforms recently enacted by Congress are also applicable. I tell members bluntly at the very beginning of our seminars that if they're not willing to actually do some bona fide work and be held to account for the activities of the organization they're serving, they need to step down and make room for someone who is. Resume enhancement and cruise control doesn't cut it anymore.

    Aloha.

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    Thank You For The Nice Reply (none / 0) (#141)
    by P3P3P3P3 on Thu Mar 21, 2013 at 03:33:20 PM EST
    well written, looking back upon my comments, there certainly is room, and rightfully, need for Republican/Private Sector criticism

    if I may just add that Corporations and Government are merely structures or tools our ancestors left us, they may have made improvements upon it during their generation

    the personal character (soul) development is the other ingredient, it does take time, which is rather  short and limited, to go through the gears similar to a manual transmission, scratchin' and missin' along the way getting a handle on self and boundaries, no matter the degree of being off, we should all come out of the dark tunnel into the light of love, changing our disposition, attitude and outlook

    Namaste

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    Aloha, Jim Barrett (1926-2013). (none / 0) (#63)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 07:14:49 PM EST
    Jim Barrett, the pioneering vintner / owner of Chateau Montelena Winery in Napa Valley, whose unexpected triumph at the 1976 "Judgment of Paris" winetasting exhibition both shocked the competition and established California wines as the equal of their French and European counterparts (and was further the basis for the hit 2008 film Bottle Shock), died last Thursday in San Francisco at the age of 86.

    And so, when the sun passes over the yardarm later this afternoon, we shall uncork the bottle of his 2009 Cabernet Franc I received last Christmas as a gift from my sister, and raise a glass in his honor. Well done, sir.

    South Carolina Primary (none / 0) (#65)
    by CoralGables on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 07:52:26 PM EST
    Elizabeth Colbert Busch is cruising on the Dem side with over 95% of the vote thus far.

    On the GOP side it looks like there will be a runoff between Mark Sanford and somebody.

    As long as they're not running off ... (none / 0) (#87)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 10:17:35 PM EST
    ... together on the Appalchian Trail.

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    Oh, that Appalachian Trail (none / 0) (#89)
    by jeffinalabama on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 10:26:27 PM EST
    to Buenos Aires?

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    Jeff! Good to see you again! (none / 0) (#95)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 10:40:46 PM EST
    I hope everything's going well, or at the very least fair to good. How are you feeling?

    I was thinking of you when I got diagnosed with polycythemia vera a few months ago, and I'm now doing chemo, too. Not anywhere near as bad as what you've probably endured, obviously, but I can't eat red meat anymore because it encourages the production of red blood cells, and I'm sure feeling most of the time like I could really use a good nap. Oh, well, as Bette Davis once quipped, growin' older ain't for sissies.

    Take care, brother.

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    Good to see you typing also, (none / 0) (#99)
    by jeffinalabama on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 10:57:02 PM EST
    my friend. I'm back to the oncologist on Thursday. Finally got insurance again, had my family doctor do a physical. That was yesterday and now they are "working me in" at the oncologist. For a man with no prostate, my PSA is 23.

    We'll see. To quote Nick Saban (I root against Bama, but he's pretty stand-up, I think) "It is what it is."

    Or maybe I should say, "The Bears are who we thought they were!"


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    A sign of things to come? (none / 0) (#67)
    by CoralGables on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 08:04:19 PM EST
    BTD loses his first bet of March Madness. Had the winner but doesn't cover the spread.

    I'm just glad that Liberty... (5.00 / 1) (#69)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 08:10:28 PM EST
    aka Jerry Falwell U. lost.  

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    Is there something (5.00 / 1) (#77)
    by CoralGables on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 09:07:05 PM EST
    satanic about the Liberty nickname being "Flames".

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    Not necessarily. (none / 0) (#86)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 10:15:19 PM EST
    I was thinking that it referenced the serious closet cases who are holed up at Liberty U., and who dream longingly of weekends in South Beach or West Hollywood, losing their inhibitions and channeling their inner diva. But I guess some people might consider that to be satanic ...
    ;-D

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    It looks like he's also ... (none / 0) (#88)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 10:23:34 PM EST
    ... losing the second, and about to go 0-for-2. St. Mary's is proving to be more than a match for the MTSU Blue Raiders, up 61-48 with 1:00 to go in the game. Go Gaels.

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    I would have put the Gaels (none / 0) (#101)
    by CoralGables on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 11:04:16 PM EST
    in my list of top March Madness nicknames this year, but Gaels is a little ubiquitous with both St Marys and Iona in the tournament.

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    Robert Morris (none / 0) (#70)
    by CoralGables on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 08:42:31 PM EST
    becomes an NIT Giant Killer

    Well, there goes my bracket. (none / 0) (#84)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 09:53:18 PM EST
    I had KY going to the Championship game, but losing to Iowa.  Unfortunately, I'm in an Iowa group, so I won't be alone in that pick.

    In the meantime, Go Gaels!

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    Not sure why KY was on the road. (none / 0) (#91)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 10:28:06 PM EST
    Must be some NCAA games being played at Rupp Arena.  

    Don't imagine they were all that thrilled with having to go to Moon, PA after not making the big dance.  

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    Exactly that. (none / 0) (#96)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 10:42:05 PM EST
    Lexington's one of the host cities for the first two rounds of NCAA regional play.

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    The Sewall Center (none / 0) (#100)
    by CoralGables on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 11:01:16 PM EST
    on the Robert Morris campus has a capacity of 3,056. Compare that to Rupp Arena where Kentucky plays before 23,500.

    Poor Kentucky must have felt like they walked into a mini hell hole as the Sewall Center was packed 12% over capacity tonight with a crowd of 3444.

    It was a quick drop for Kentucky from NCAA champ to 1st round NIT loser.

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    Kentucky almost nevers schedules ... (none / 0) (#122)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 03:44:55 PM EST
    ... a home-and-home series with regional mid-major powers such as Butler, Robert Morris and VCU, who generally play in much smaller venues than most higher-profile programs like UK, Louisville, etc. And that's really too bad, because as a result, the Wildcats traveled to Boone, PA last night with little or no experience playing in small town bandboxes like the Sewall Center.

    I can imagine that the UK players had to have been taken aback initially by the Sewall Center's acoustics and coziness. At least, they sure looked somewhat shocked and even intimidated at the beginning of the game by both the rabid RMU faithful sitting and standing practically on top of them -- no wide arena aisles here -- and the Colonials' aggressive style of play. With an overcapacity crowd, I bet that joint must've been rocking last night. When it comes to amplified partisan crowd noise, bigger is not necessarily better.

    The Kentucky Wildcats received a very good lesson in humility last night, which I think may serve them well next season, provided Coach Calipari uses it effectively as a teachable moment. Surely, his players must now realize that like themselves, most good teams -- even if they're mid-majors like Robert Morris -- play to win, especially at home! Further, in the post-season, you must always respect the potential of any opponents who've notched 20+ wins on their belts, regardless of conference affiliations.

    I bet over the next few days, we'll see a few big-name programs subjected to the same lesson. Let the Madness commence.

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    Duke's Coach K would be very angry ... (none / 0) (#90)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 10:26:39 PM EST
    ... that Colonial fans stormed the court at the end of the game.

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    Your Dawgs... (none / 0) (#93)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 10:30:17 PM EST
    aren't doing very well tonight.  That makes me angry since I had them beating BYU.  

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    I sure didn't. (none / 0) (#97)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 10:42:48 PM EST
    BYU's a better team than UW this year, far and away.

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    Completely awesome (none / 0) (#123)
    by jbindc on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 03:54:32 PM EST
    Especially as Robert Morris started out as an "Accountancy" school that taught mostly secretarial skills.  :)

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    Jaime "Nickel and" Dimon... (none / 0) (#121)
    by kdog on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 02:54:15 PM EST
    thought all you Chase customers were Cypriots yesterday.  Classic.