Monday Night Open Thread

Anonymous hacked the Department of Energy last month, the agency confirmed. No classified info was taken, just personal data. There are also claims that Anonymous is responsible the release of 4,000 bank executives' data today, as part of Operation Last Resort. But the database posted as the U.S. Sentencing Commission's data may not have been a fake. Anyone can claim to be Anonymous.

There's a hearing tomorrow morning in the George Zimmerman case. Here are the motions that will be addressed. His family won't be attending, but his supporters will be singing "Happy Birthday Travyon" in front of the courthouse. (Trayvon would have turned 18 tomorrow.)

This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    Peter G, wherever you are, a karma collision: (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by Mr Natural on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 10:26:23 PM EST
    The same federal prosecutor behind the suicide of internet wunderkind Aaron Swartz was behind the attempted seizure (asset forfeiture) of the Massachusetts hotel I mentioned a month or so ago:

    The Obama Administration's Inspector Javert: Federal Court Rejects Forfeiture Effort By The Office Of Carmen Ortiz In Stinging Rebuke

    Uh,huh (none / 0) (#142)
    by Peter G on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 05:29:00 PM EST
    So I saw.

    Very large number of new Ortiz-and-Aaron (none / 0) (#168)
    by Peter G on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 10:43:54 PM EST
    This is what can be done (none / 0) (#178)
    by sj on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 10:06:14 AM EST
    with ~140 characters:
    Aaron dead. World wanderers, we have lost a wise elder. Hackers for right, we are one down. Parents all, we have lost a child. Let us weep.
    From Sir Tim Berners Lee, Founder Of The World Wide Web.Tugs at my heart, that does.

    one of my old people died yesterday (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 06:09:59 AM EST
    it seems to be the only downside of the job.  that makes the third one I have lost since I started.  I have been told you get accoustomed to it.  they are after all very old.  not so far.  laid awake last for a long while thinking about Ms Roe.

    I had (none / 0) (#13)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 07:23:24 AM EST
    a personnel manager tell me one time that if he ever stopping caring about people losing their jobs that he needed to get out of the field. Maybe it's the same in what you are doing.

    Im sure that is exaclty right (none / 0) (#15)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 07:42:56 AM EST
    so far it has not made it any easier.  possibly because the ones that have gone have so far been my favorites.  the ones that I had really developed a relationship with.  

    I still love doing this.  its very true that really old people become childlike.  often in the very best way.  they lose all inhibitions.  they become completely honest and willing to say pretty much anything in ways that are disarming and frequently hilarious.  for example I have been stunned how many are vocal supporters of the president and many of the things he has tried to do in a region where you "simply dont do that".  they just dont give a darn what you dont do


    Very true... (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by kdog on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 09:25:25 AM EST
    when the brain filter goes, hilarity can ensue.  

    But it ain't always cute...in the case of my 90 year old great uncle that I help care for, he is letting his bigot flag fly in old age.  I had no idea when he was younger.  Not pretty...makes it hard to bring him out in public.  I try to educate him, but you know what they say about old dogs.

    Proof positive you can love somebody you really don't like.

    BTW...welcome back Jack!


    thanks nice to see ya (5.00 / 1) (#31)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 09:51:35 AM EST
    and yeah.  you have to take the bad goofy with the good goofy.  pretty much we just dont argue with them.  in the end, and I mean this in the best possible way, its sort of like the new puppy I adopted from the Flash Market parking lot during the snowstorm christmas day - who has been named Little Sh!t - she can be an enormus pain in the neck but in the long run she is worth it.  she keeps the rest of us entertained and I have grown to love her to death.

    Let your newfound puppy (none / 0) (#68)
    by christinep on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 11:56:53 AM EST
    Ease you through the sadness of loss.  Our dogs are masters of uplifting solace.

    Your help for the elderly people you tend, Capt, surely must be one of our most compassionate forms of human action. A work of human love.  I admire the compassion you feel & show.


    c I wish I could accept that (5.00 / 1) (#133)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 03:19:28 PM EST
    but the honest truth is I responded to a add in the paper because I really need a bit of cash flow, it sounded easy and it was part time not initially out of any deep humanity.  it is true that I have come to love it but to be brutally honest I did not expect to when I signed up.

    I think it also has to do with the people I work with.  these are the people you are talking about.  they are a terriffic group and it has been a humbling experience to work with them.  people who have seriously spent their lived doing this stuff.


    Sometimes we surprise even ourselves... (none / 0) (#150)
    by christinep on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 07:49:09 PM EST
    with the good that we can do :)  'Nuff said.

    I just think (none / 0) (#160)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 08:44:14 PM EST
    some of them dont smell that good but someday I may not smell that good and hopefully someone will bring me hot lunches.

    btw (5.00 / 1) (#136)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 03:35:49 PM EST
    the job does have perks.  for example today Ms Mackey who is always giving me big containers of her home cooking - I bring her crappy institutional food a leave with the most amazing stuff - gave about a gallon of her speciality chicken and dumplings and a big bag of hot cinnamon rolls.

    this is not unusual.  I guess its the one thing they can do for me and they do it a lot.  my food budget has gone pretty much to zero between the take homes from the center - which are better than I made them sound - and the perks from my girlfriends.


    You need to post more (none / 0) (#70)
    by sj on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 12:00:30 PM EST
    pictures.  Both of your cabin and of your brand new puppy.  Congrats on the new member of your household.

    I do need some pics of Little (5.00 / 3) (#134)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 03:23:01 PM EST
    as she is usually known.  she is terminally cute.  a mutt.  the day I found her it was about 5 degrees and snowing like h*ll and she was bouncing around the parking lot trying to make friends with everyone who pulled into to buy gas.  I went in and asked about her and they said she had been dumped there early that morning and they were all miserable that they could not take her home.  but the had been feeding her from the grill all day.  she looked like a tick about to pop.

    my dogs think she is the best squeek toy ever.


    I missed when you posted about your job before (none / 0) (#155)
    by ruffian on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 08:05:22 PM EST
    This sounds like an interesting new chapter for you. Your old folks are lucky to have you- I'm sure you brighten their day.

    Have fun with the puppy too!


    honestly (none / 0) (#158)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 08:37:05 PM EST
    they brighten mine just as much.  brighten my day and expand my waistline.

    I never actually meant to keep Little Sh!t.  I tried real hard to find her a home for several weeks.  the last thing I need is another dog.  but no luck.  I guess she stays.

    and more may be coming.  being a dog lover I have made friends with all the dogs on my route and fear I am perilously close to having a fourth.  one of the ones who died recently has a husband who remains and is teetering on the edge of a nursing home.  no one really thinks he will be able to stay alone for long.  annnnnd they have an adorable old beagle who meets me every at the end of the walk with that hilarious beagle rhooooooooo oooooo oooo oooo.  I always find something for him.  and I may have to find him a home.  I have already talked to the aid about it.  oh well.  he wont be a problem long.  he is ancient.  can barely waddle around.  when he tries to wag his tail go greet me he falls over. and he is an outside dog.


    Aw what a sweet old doggie. (5.00 / 1) (#176)
    by ruffian on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 08:58:52 AM EST
    It would be nice for him to go to someone he already knows and trusts.

    A friend had a similar situation with her parents a couple of years ago. No one thought her dad would last the year without her mom, much less still in his home. But there he still is three years later. People can surprise us.


    Does your uncle perchance listen to ... (none / 0) (#105)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 01:30:44 PM EST
    ... Radio Nowhere? Elderly people will often turn on the TV or talk radio with increasing frequency to keep them company.

    When my grandmother was in her nineties (during the '90s), she used to listen to a real right-wing geriatric rodeo clown on local L.A. talk radio named George Putnam, because she once knew him personally back in the 1950s when he was a reporter for KTLA-TV. I think he must've once been a neighbor in Pasadena or something like that, because I could never picture her being close friends with the likes of him.

    Now, she was an old FDR Democrat from back in the day, but ol' George -- who was in his eighties himself at the time -- would fill her head with so much right-wing nonsense about Bill and Hillary Clinton that I think a few synapses began to misfire, and she'd get so upset at the idea that the First Lady would have her lover murdered and his body dumped in a D.C. park.

    You wanted to turn the radio off so she wouldn't get so worked up over right-wing bull$Hi+, but then she'd get mad at you for turning off the radio. (Sigh!) Literally, you were damned if you did, and damned if you didn't.


    Not the case... (none / 0) (#112)
    by kdog on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 01:52:52 PM EST
    with my unc...all he watches are Turner Classic Movies, Murder She Wrote/Matlack/Law & Order re-runs, football and televised mass on Sundays.  I don't think he knows who

    I think he always believed in this cr&p he spews, but knew better to keep it to himself till the filter went, at least around me. I love him but it is getting harder & harder to be around him, but now he needs people around to care for him.  Whaddya gonna do...family.  I think I just need to learn not to be so understanding, and tell him he is sounding like an arsehole and to stfu once in awhile, for my own sanity...since he doesn't wanna learn.


    When my great-grandmother got old ... (5.00 / 1) (#120)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 02:14:12 PM EST
    ... and frail, she similarly lost her filter, only that old Pennsylvania puritan's hatred was apparently reserved almost exclusively for Roman Catholics -- which of course most of us are in the California branch of her family.

    According to my mother, she publicly berated her own then-71-year-old son (my grandfather) on the occasion of her 100th birthday party back in Malvern, PA for not only having married one (my grandmother), but also agreeing to let the children be raised as Catholics as well, and then she turned to my grandmother and called her a "Papist b*tch." I'm kinda sorry I missed that particular family scene; it must've been really idyllic and precious.


    We should have put my great uncle... (5.00 / 2) (#131)
    by kdog on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 03:01:30 PM EST
    and your great grandmother together...he's hardcore Roman Catholic and up until a few years ago active with the Hibernians.  They coulda had a steel cage match or something;)

    What a <sweet> image! (none / 0) (#151)
    by christinep on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 07:53:34 PM EST
    public defender named to 8th Circuit appeals court (5.00 / 1) (#20)
    by desmoinesdem on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 07:59:54 AM EST
    Jane Kelly helped open the federal public defender's office in Cedar Rapids in 1994 and has worked there ever since. She seems like a great person. Here's another good profile of her. There can't be many career public defenders who reach the U.S. Circuit Courts. Hope she is confirmed.

    The real reason Mary Ingalls went blind (5.00 / 1) (#57)
    by jbindc on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 11:17:24 AM EST
    True story (5.00 / 3) (#64)
    by Dadler on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 11:44:20 AM EST
    My father was a bit-part character actor, and in the late 70's he did an episode of LITTLE HOUSE ON THE PRAIRIE.  It was when Mary thought she was getting her sight back, so Pa hauled her across the prairie all the way to Chicago. There she saw an eye specialist, played by my father, who tested here, shined a light in her eyes, said follow my finger, and then he thought very hard for a few moments. Finally he said, and I paraphrase, "Nah, sorry, you're still blind."

    When I was in high school and desperate for girls, I tried to use the story twice. Both times the girls recoiled from me and exclaimed, "That made me so sad, I hated your dad!"

    You can't make this sh*t up.


    Funny (or not so funny) thing... (5.00 / 1) (#152)
    by christinep on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 07:57:22 PM EST
    I remember having watched that episode of Little House with my sister.  It was memorable...particularly, the definitive scene with the "doctor" who examined her eyes.  Thanks for the memory, as they say.

    Dr. Fromm (none / 0) (#72)
    by Dadler on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 12:10:17 PM EST
    I just remembered the name. Amazing.

    THAT (5.00 / 1) (#74)
    by jbindc on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 12:12:50 PM EST
    is very cool!

    And just to plug my pops (5.00 / 1) (#75)
    by Dadler on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 12:35:46 PM EST
    He was on I'll Fly Away! (5.00 / 2) (#81)
    by ruffian on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 12:47:12 PM EST
    One of my favorite shows ever. Do you remember anything about that?

    I'm probably way too impressed by stuff like this, but impressed I am!


    Sam Waterston and Regina Taylor. (5.00 / 1) (#82)
    by oculus on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 12:49:32 PM EST

    That was such a great show (5.00 / 1) (#83)
    by shoephone on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 12:51:59 PM EST
    Even Kathryn Harrold was good on that show (5.00 / 1) (#87)
    by shoephone on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 12:57:00 PM EST
    and that's saying something. I had previously thought she was one of the worst actresses ever, but she had to up her game for that one, and she did.

    Speaking of southern stuff (5.00 / 1) (#86)
    by Dadler on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 12:54:58 PM EST
    He came within a hair of landing the recurring coroner's roll on IN THE HEAT OF THE NIGHT. It was down to him and the guy who ended up getting it. Damn that would a been sweet!

    I have a lot of funny stories about my dad and Jerry Stiller, whom he grew up with, and whom Jerry credits in his autobiography, mistakenly my father claims, with being the person who first introduced him to acting classes at the Henry Street Playhouse. They have quite the lengthy and complicated relationship.  


    I recognize his name, Dadler (5.00 / 2) (#88)
    by shoephone on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 12:57:54 PM EST
    I'm a big character actor fan.

    When I was a theatre student in college... (5.00 / 1) (#90)
    by Dadler on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 01:00:56 PM EST
    ...and still acting, you have no idea how freely I'd suggest I was one of THE acting Adlers, just to see if I could get any mileage with it. Actors, I tell ya, they'll spin any tale to get a role.

    "Stellaaaaaaaa...!" (5.00 / 2) (#93)
    by shoephone on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 01:03:07 PM EST
    I remember that one (none / 0) (#84)
    by Dadler on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 12:52:02 PM EST
    Love this credit (5.00 / 2) (#96)
    by jbindc on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 01:06:36 PM EST
    Hill Street Blues (TV series)
    Standing wino

    Of course, it's not as good as the old Preparation H commercials where they "interviewed" people and listed them as

    "Jane Smith, Hemorrhoid Sufferer"



    He did a few winos (5.00 / 2) (#106)
    by Dadler on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 01:32:21 PM EST
    I wish I had ON THE NICKEL in digital format. That movie was written and directed by Ralph Waite, dad from The Waltons, and it was about a reformed wino trying to track down an old buddy of his (who ends up dead, resulting in "hilarity" with his ashes). Dad, playing a wino named Moses, had a great scene with Donald Moffet (a great actor in his own right) in which he extols the virtues of his wine and being drunk over the horrible sober life. Wasn't shot all that well, but pops was intense as hell. Looked 70 when he was 50.

    Also, for the finale of that movie, I actually tagged along for filming on LA's skidrow. Basically, I ate Craft Services food and wandered around for half a day -- wandered around skidrow at 12!!  I remember staring into the Hard Rock Cafe, a drunk dive bar of all dull grey concrete that was the polar opposite of what the name means today. Saw a dead body in the gutter, heard a former history professor from Berkeley say he had it all but the bottle took it all away, then watched as a hundred wino extras almost rioted when they realized the prop bottles of wine they'd been given for the finale were actually just grape juice. They calmed them down by paying them a few extra bucks, and then got a great performance. The finale, you see, though corny and so overstaged, was the characters from the movie and a hundred wino extras (holding up those bottles of grape juice) in the middle of the street singing "Waltzing Matilda." I was watching from right behind the camera. What a phucking day that was.  Local news covered it, too, and I actually got on TV walking past the camera in the background. Crazy long time ago.

    Oh, and Tom Waits did the title song and other music. Truly awesome. (link)

    Jayus, quite the trip down memory lane today. Thanks, peeps!


    Thank you for the stories (5.00 / 3) (#156)
    by ruffian on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 08:07:01 PM EST
    And update his IMDB page! Sounds like he deserves a photo and some biographical info!

    And he played Einstein the same year! (5.00 / 2) (#117)
    by Dadler on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 02:01:37 PM EST
    Standing wino to the Greatest Mind on Earth, Pops has range, baby!!

    In his mid 70's he came out of semi-retirement to play Scrooge in A Christmas Carol. Local community theatre production he never would've done except he always wanted to play that role. Glad he did as my wife got to see him on stage at least once. He was so wired every night after the performances, he'd stay up 'til two in the morning spinning tales of the greasepaint.

    The stuff keeps flooding back to me!


    Last funny, touching dad link (5.00 / 1) (#119)
    by Dadler on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 02:08:18 PM EST
    Old town? (none / 0) (#124)
    by Dadler on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 02:34:47 PM EST
    OUR Town!!!

    Sheesh, you Philistine.


    That page needs pictures... (5.00 / 3) (#128)
    by unitron on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 02:51:36 PM EST
    ...so do something about it.

    And I completely forgot... (none / 0) (#77)
    by Dadler on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 12:38:15 PM EST
    ...that he did two episodes of LITTLE HOUSE. Ah memory.

    No exhumation! (none / 0) (#184)
    by oculus on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 10:31:10 AM EST
    And old set of remains found buried ... (5.00 / 1) (#118)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 02:01:41 PM EST
    ... beneath a municial parking lot in the city of Leicester in central England have been positively identified as those belonging to King Richard III, whose turbulent reign provided dramatic fodder for one of Shakespeare's greatest works. It's considered one of the great archaeological discoveries of the early 21st century:

    Los Angeles Times | February 5, 2013
    Scientists identify remains as those of Richard III - "More than 500 years after his death in battle, scientists announced Monday that they had definitively identified a skeleton unearthed in central England last summer as that of Richard III, the medieval king portrayed by William Shakespeare as a homicidal tyrant who killed his two young nephews in order to ascend the throne. DNA from the bones, found beneath the ruins of an old church, matches that of a living descendant of the monarch's sister, researchers said. [...] Richard reigned from 1483 to 1485, and occupies a unique place in England's long line of colorful rulers. He was the last English king to be killed in combat, at the Battle of Bosworth Field, by his successor, Henry VII. His death ended the Plantagenet dynasty and ushered in the long era of the Tudors, including Henry VIII and Elizabeth I."

    Computer forensic technicians have reconstructed King Richard's facial features, which was revealed today, so we can see what the ambitious young ruler looked like in ye olde days of yore.

    I saw this, Donald (5.00 / 2) (#126)
    by Zorba on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 02:42:09 PM EST
    And both Mr. Zorba and I found it fascinating.
    We also had a discussion about whether Richard III was as completely awful as Shakespeare, and the subsequent Tudors, presented him.  
    Our conclusion was that he was probably no better and no worse than most of the royalty in that era, and was also probably no worse and no better than some of the Tudors who, let's face it, were not exactly poster children for "benevolent monarchy."
    What I want to know is, did they find the remains of his horse?    ;-)  

    No horse, Zorba. And since the way his (5.00 / 2) (#139)
    by caseyOR on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 04:28:14 PM EST
    bones were positioned indicates his hands were tied when he was buried, I do hope the horse was long gone before poor Richard was felled.

    I, too, await the new scholarship on Richard III. The old saying that history is written by the victors is true. The Tudors won. The Tudors wrote the history of Richard III. Thus, history has not been kind to Richard.

    I read some things last night that said that Richard was not such a despot, but was bringing in some reforms around the courts and crime and punishment, reforms that ended with the rise of the Tudors.

    The members of the Richard III Society (yes, this group exists.) must be very excited at the chance to repair their guy's reputation.

    And you are right, the Tudors brought their own baggage to the throne. Henry VIII, anyone?


    Well, Richard III did probably order ... (none / 0) (#141)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 05:27:12 PM EST
    ... the deaths of his two young nephews, who were the progeny of his elder brother, King Edward IV.

    Richard, Duke of Gloucester, had been earlier designated by his brother as Lord Protector of the Realm (the equivalent of regent) in the event of the king's premature demise, because the king's eldest son and rightful heir to the throne was only 12 years old when his father was died in April 1483. Richard was to therefore rule in his nephew's name until King Edward V attained the age of majority.

    Instead, Richard had young Edward and his little brother imprisoned in the Tower of London in June 1483, and then likely had both of them killed later that August to remove whatever challenge they might later mount to his own claim to England's throne. For a long time, the boys were simply missing, but their remains were unearthed during a rebuilding project at the Tower in 1674, and they were re-interred in Westminster Abbey.

    Richard's apologists like to claim that his cousin Henry, Duke of Buckingham, as the probably culprit in the murder of the two boys -- but there's really no argument Richard himself was the primary beneficiary of the deed. Further, the Duke of Buckingham led the first serious rebellion against his cousin's rule, and it would hardly make any sense for him to have killed the rightful heir to the throne himself, if his primary purpose was to overthrow Richard in young Edward's name.


    I am in no way saying (none / 0) (#145)
    by Zorba on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 06:04:28 PM EST
    that Richard III was any kind of "good guy."  Far from it, Donald.
    What I am saying is that this was not exactly uncommon in those days, and that the subsequent Tudor monarchs were also not paragons of virtue.
    It was what it was, and I'm glad that I did not live in those days.

    Agreed. (none / 0) (#161)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 09:11:12 PM EST
    All told, the Tudors were a rather ruthless lot, as royal families go, and King Henry VIII and his daughters Queen Mary (aka "Bloody Mary") and Queen Elizabeth set the bar for all subsequent British monarchs. You crossed them at your peril.

    Ironically, Henry VIII so desperately wanted a son as his heir that he ran through wives in an effort to get one, yet that son (by Jane Seymour) was a sickly lad and didn't last long on the throne after his father kicked off, before dying himself. Henry's daughters were the ones who took after dear Papa.


    I loved the showtime series (none / 0) (#163)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 09:23:05 PM EST
    and have wondered how factual it is.  without being willing to check.  to good to check as they say.  

    The historical mystery is fascinating (none / 0) (#154)
    by christinep on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 08:02:07 PM EST
    Not only the "was that him" or "did he have a twisted arm too" or (now) "where/how will he be reinterred?)  More than that: How History defines & redefines the greats, not-so-greats, and really horribles?  'Love that "history" is revealed as so ongoing.

    A great novel on the topic is (none / 0) (#157)
    by ruffian on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 08:12:00 PM EST
    Josephine Tey's 'the Daughter of Time'. It is about a modern day (well, in the 40s or 50s when it was written) detective who gets interested in the mystery of the princes in the tower and investigates. He makes a pretty good case for Henry Tudor's involvement. Can't remember enough details to answer Donald's issues with that theory, but it is a great read and presents the evidence well.

    Bills to legalize pot were introduced in U.S. (5.00 / 1) (#148)
    by caseyOR on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 07:22:50 PM EST
    House of Representatives by Congressmen Earl Blumernauer(D-OR) and Jared Polis (D-CO).

    They introduced two bills. These bills would remove marijuana from under the thumb of the DEA and transfer regulation of it to the newly named Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Marijuana and Firearms. Each state would decide whether to legalize medicinal and recreational pot use. A federal excise tax would be established to tax the sale of pot.

    While one can quibble with some of the particulars, such as whether a 50% excise tax is too much, the basic ideas in the bills appear to be sound and reasonable.

    Cost of production... (5.00 / 1) (#172)
    by kdog on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 08:15:51 AM EST
    plus mark-up plus a 50% excise tax, plus whatever my state & county would tack on...I think I'd still come out ahead over black market prices.

    Feels like a couple sessions in a row now prohibition repeal bills have been introduced, I guess that is more slow progress.

    I don't expect anything to come of it, but like Lotto ya gotta be in it to win it...I appreciate the reps willingness to bang their head against the brick wall of special interests in defense of reason.  Good reminder that not everybody in Congress is deaf, dumb, and blind.


    Why oh (5.00 / 1) (#201)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 01:12:03 PM EST
    why do I even try to reason with a Republican on facebook. There is no way Karl Rove is going to win his "war" with the GOP I am quite certain. When your party base is essentially the very far right in this country, pleas for moderation are going to get you nowhere.

    For an update on the job situation with hubby--nothing happening right now. I'm getting kind of nervous but I've talked to the bank and they seem to think that they will be able to get a short sale approved should it come to that. I'm not looking forward to moving out of this house (I have way too much stuff) but we without another job we can no longer afford this house.

    facebook lessons learned (none / 0) (#2)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 10:35:30 PM EST
    after fleeing facebook during the election because I simply could no longer bear it having "friended" any moron who sent me a request and then having to see in full color their hate and sick paranoia I recently decided that I missed my friends.  so I started a new page with a slightly different name and sent this announcement to all the people I wanted to keep:

    you will get or have gotten a friend request from "XXXXXXXX"  helloooooo its me.

    please friend the "new" me and join me on my new "Obama-hateing-science-denying-tea-bagging-moron-republican-a$$hole" free face book page.
    it was simply not feasible to unfriend all the idiots, since many were relatives, and I got tired of swimming in the shallow end of the gene pool but realized that facebook really is a good way
    to stay in touch with the people you wish to stay in touch with as long as you dont include all the ones you dont.

    if you ever send me a farmville request you will be unfriended instantly.  :-)~

    in less than 24 hours everyone responded and I am now happily back on facebook.  and its been days since I had to see a racist Obama cartoon or read some insane paranoid rant.  I now have two FB pages.  one I update and one I do not.

    I recommend it if you have had similar problems

    Had you tried "un friending" (none / 0) (#5)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 11:42:48 PM EST
    and/or "hiding" the comments of the baddies?

    I still had to deal with their idiot requests (none / 0) (#9)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 06:01:20 AM EST
    and messages and on and on.  better for them to be gone

    it also (none / 0) (#10)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 06:07:30 AM EST
    me to be much more comfortable with what I post

    I used the FB list feature (none / 0) (#76)
    by ruffian on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 12:38:11 PM EST
    to get around that. Made a list of friends I can safely discuss politics with, and when I post on certain topics I only make it viewable by those people. Of course that is prone to error.... Maybe I will do your method instead!

    Anonymous Terrorism (none / 0) (#3)
    by koshembos on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 11:15:21 PM EST
    Our personal data is attacked by anonymous while our bodies are attacked by terrorist. "No classified info was taken, just personal data." Anonymous violence should not be defended if they happen to attack people we don't like.

    The "just personal data" (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by oculus on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 11:41:30 PM EST
    also got my attention.

    The Swinging Friars (none / 0) (#6)
    by CoralGables on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 12:00:55 AM EST
    Pitchers and Catchers Feb 13

    Ha. We are checking it (none / 0) (#7)
    by oculus on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 12:02:38 AM EST
    out first weekend in March. Wonder who is on the roster.  Same re those Marlins I suppose.

    The Marlins (none / 0) (#8)
    by CoralGables on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 12:26:45 AM EST
    will be breaking out some local high schoolers I believe.

    Trivia question...

    What major league baseball teams travel north for spring training?


    Perhaps... (none / 0) (#27)
    by kdog on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 09:34:44 AM EST
    but our bodies are attacked and our data stored and mined by our own government...I like to think of Anonymous as liberating the data, and maybe one day liberating our bodies too.

    The enemy of your enemy isn't always a friend...but until Anonymous proves otherwise, I'll call them a friend.  Got any evidence Anonymous is using any personal data for their personal gain or a nefarious purpose?


    That is not true (5.00 / 1) (#53)
    by nyjets on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 10:58:02 AM EST
    They are stealing private information about people. That is wrong and illegal. Sooner or latter they are going to hurt people, if they havent already.

    People like you and me... (none / 0) (#173)
    by kdog on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 08:17:57 AM EST
    have to fear the law...above the law bank executives have only to fear Anonymous.

    Who's got the better deal?  Bankers, again.  Anonymous has no arrest powers, no color of authority.


    that is incorrect (2.00 / 1) (#174)
    by nyjets on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 08:52:18 AM EST
    No everyone has to obey or 'fear' the law. Even banker.
    And sorry but by releasing bankers information it makes it easier for other people to hurt/ kill them.
    Anonymous is a dangerous organization with a lot of power. Everyone should be afraid of them because sooner or latter they are going to go after everybody

    oy (none / 0) (#175)
    by sj on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 08:57:51 AM EST
    Texas Rangers, Kansas City Royals, (none / 0) (#30)
    by oculus on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 09:49:17 AM EST
    San Diego Padres.  

    Is that an... (none / 0) (#37)
    by kdog on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 10:21:32 AM EST
    opiate of the masses reference?  Or more likely, replying to the wrong comment.

    If so, you need a drink and some blues music!  kdog comin' the rescue in 10 hours;)


    Ha! Please forward to Coral Gables. My (none / 0) (#38)
    by oculus on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 10:23:19 AM EST
    actual mantra is secret.

    You don't know me by now? (none / 0) (#40)
    by kdog on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 10:31:37 AM EST
    I never snitch nor rat, your secret identity is safe with me!

    Hey, aren't you the commenter (none / 0) (#45)
    by oculus on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 10:41:15 AM EST
    who revealed to this entire little world that I won't really need earplugs for tonight's outing?   (But I got 'em just in case.)

    Hey now... (none / 0) (#55)
    by kdog on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 11:07:55 AM EST
    nothing you haven't admitted yourself within the community, iirc;)

    Our big threat tonight are audience smartphone videos that end up on youtube...look at how they did me dirty at the Malone Bros. show on the cruise around Manhattan this past summer.  You can't keep your mug off the internet for tryin' in the 21st century!


    Ah. But you are obviously enjoying (none / 0) (#63)
    by oculus on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 11:42:33 AM EST
    the music. I hope Mayall is a tad more lively music-wise. This sounds like Steve Reich.

    Is kdog (none / 0) (#65)
    by CoralGables on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 11:44:53 AM EST
    the cute brunette on bass guitar :)

    LOL... (none / 0) (#78)
    by kdog on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 12:41:14 PM EST
    I fell in love with her for two hours...thunderous bass from such a petite woman!

    Lively? (none / 0) (#79)
    by kdog on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 12:42:44 PM EST
    I'm sure The Malone Bothers of The Radiators and The Subdudes fame have been called alotta things...but never unlively.

    Tommy Malone... my secret crush (none / 0) (#144)
    by shoephone on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 05:47:54 PM EST
    Well, not so secret. Love the 'dudes! "Annunciation" is one of the best albums from the 90's.

    Saw the Subdudes live in the studio at (none / 0) (#146)
    by Angel on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 06:37:15 PM EST
    Austin City Limits many, many years ago.  What a great show.

    You're seeing John Mayall tonight? (none / 0) (#85)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 12:53:59 PM EST
    Hitting the ground running I see, no wasting time with mere pikers for you!

    Mayall is 79 yrs. old. I hope he shows. (none / 0) (#92)
    by oculus on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 01:01:29 PM EST
    Love John Mayall (none / 0) (#104)
    by sj on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 01:26:21 PM EST
    First saw him way too many years ago along with Savoy Brown. I don't recall who was the opening act, but man, what a great show.  I wish I could remember the exact venue, but all I recall is that it was somewhere on the CSU campus.

    Looks like they'll on the same bill later this week, too.

    White T-shirt? (none / 0) (#91)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 01:00:58 PM EST
    Busted...n/t (none / 0) (#127)
    by kdog on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 02:49:52 PM EST
    Two out of three (I think) (none / 0) (#43)
    by CoralGables on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 10:40:07 AM EST
    but you left out the most obvious

    Prove it. (none / 0) (#46)
    by oculus on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 10:42:25 AM EST
    Kansas City Royals (none / 0) (#49)
    by CoralGables on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 10:51:37 AM EST
    Home Stadium
    Kauffman Stadium
    39.0514° N

    Spring Training
    Surprise Stadium
    33.6278° N

    Padres and Rangers are right. You still need one.


    Here's your hint for #3 (none / 0) (#60)
    by CoralGables on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 11:35:06 AM EST
    "I think the great DiMaggio would be proud of me today."

    Hemingway landed an MLB team????? (none / 0) (#66)
    by oculus on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 11:48:02 AM EST
    Interesting comment (none / 0) (#54)
    by jbindc on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 11:00:24 AM EST
    Especially as you are a person who seems to highly value your personal business - so far, in fact, that you still want to be paid in cash and not use a checking account, or have anyone know your movements or whereabouts.

    Kind of a cavalier attitude about other peoples' personal information, don't you think?


    Other people... (none / 0) (#56)
    by kdog on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 11:16:58 AM EST
    are cavalier with their info, no?  

    Until Anonymous does something dirty with the info they take, what is the problem?  They should be thanked for exposing the cracks in the system.


    I just think it's ironic (none / 0) (#58)
    by jbindc on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 11:24:50 AM EST
    You cheer a group that is taking other people's private information, and doing who knows what with it, when you yourself are so overly protective of your own private business.

    And no, I don't thank anybody who commits a crime for their own political agenda.


    I cheer a group... (5.00 / 1) (#59)
    by kdog on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 11:30:46 AM EST
    at odds with a group I am at odds with, that isn't at odds with me.  I'm missing the irony.

    When Anonymous empties your bank account let me know, my opinion is not set in stone.  So far I've only seen Anonymous do positive things via their hacks...namely give the government and corporations fits.


    Maybe (5.00 / 1) (#61)
    by jbindc on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 11:36:57 AM EST
    They can give the Democrats fits too if they decide to move forward with schemes like this...

    For years, state Democratic parties have been gathering information about individual voters' political leanings. They have noted down the opinions voters shared with canvassers -- which candidates they said they supported or their positions on policy issues.

    Now, the record of what people told Democratic volunteers may go up for sale -- and not just to political groups. Democrats are looking into whether credit card companies, retailers like Target or other commercial interests may want to buy the information.


    But the fact that selling voters' opinions to companies is even an option for Democrats is another example of how rapidly the data industry is evolving -- and how little information individuals have about how their data is being shared.

    In his "Consumer Privacy Bill of Rights," released last year, President Barack Obama argued that when companies collect personal data from consumers, they should only share it in ways consumers expect.

    If a company decides it wants to share personal information in a new way, Obama suggested, it should notify the consumers who are affected and provide them with choices about how their data is used.

    Although Obama pledged to work with Congress to make the Consumer Privacy Bill of Rights into law, that hasn't happened yet.

    Better hack those state party and OFA files....


    But, kdog... (none / 0) (#62)
    by christinep on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 11:38:19 AM EST
    Doesn't the wait-until-they-do-something-with-the-personal-data amount to an invitation , in this situation, to do so?  Isn't it similar to putting a stash of cash out in the open (and in front of those with admitted experience & pattern of taking other things) ... And then being surprised when some/all that cash disappears?

    It does raise a lot of questions....


    I get your points... (none / 0) (#69)
    by kdog on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 11:58:06 AM EST
    in a perfect world we wouldn't need an Anonymous, and the possibilty certainly exists that Anonymous could do some dirty of their own...but the world ain't perfect, and imo Anonymous has only worked for the public good...so far.

    And as far as rebellion goes, they don't use guns....gotta like that!


    Please do not liberate any of my (none / 0) (#71)
    by oculus on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 12:00:40 PM EST
    E-mails/texts to you!  Thanks.  

    Too late... (5.00 / 1) (#73)
    by kdog on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 12:12:29 PM EST
    I just got three credit cards in your name, and one is platinum...drinks on me...err you! I am legion;)

    you know (none / 0) (#12)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 07:08:04 AM EST
    I have been saying for months that Hillary will be the next president,  and I still think so, but Chris Christie was good on Letterman last night.  even I find it impossible to not like the guy personally.

    it may come down to which ceiling will be busted.  the one for women or the one for morbidly obese people.  I think there are probably more of the latter than the former of voting age.

    What (none / 0) (#14)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 07:28:25 AM EST
    made you change your mind about Hillary? Weren't you saying a while back that you were 100% sure she was done with politics?

    As far as Christie, well, judging from the GOP wackos on facebook, I don't think he has much of a chance of getting the nomination because the GOP base took McCain and Romney and held their noses but they are not going to do that in 2016 from what I'm seeing.


    I dont remember saying that (none / 0) (#17)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 07:50:55 AM EST
    but I have not commented here for a long time.  if I ever thought that I dont any more.  she is running and right now IMO she wins.

    as far as the GOP wackos, we are going to see an intense and focused effort to neuter and marginalize them before 2016. see Roves new effort - which will be well financed.  will it work?  who knows.  one thing I do know is that it will be fun to watch and even if it does not it will likely split the party to the point that Hillary will be an even safer bet


    I don't (none / 0) (#21)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 08:29:38 AM EST
    know what Rove's plan is to neuter the wackos but I honestly don't see it working. The GOP had a really good shot at winning last year if they could have neutered the wackos and they were not able to. I personally think the electorate is going to have to be the ones that neuter the wackos.

    A friend of mine who used to be a local GOP official predicts that the GOP is going to go full tea party in 2016 and launch massive sexist attacks against Hillary that are going to manage to tick off a ton of people and the GOP goes down in a landslide.


    GA (none / 0) (#28)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 09:37:35 AM EST
    Romney lost because he didn't get as many votes as McCain did in 2008.

    And that was with the Demos doing a record setting job of getting their base out.

    Will the Tea Party stay home again 2016? I don't know. But when it comes out like it did in 2010 then the Repubs win.


    Good luck with that (none / 0) (#29)
    by Yman on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 09:45:16 AM EST
    You Tea Partiers are a dying breed:

    The Tea Party is more unpopular than ever before, according to a Rasmussen poll released Monday, with just three in 10 voters holding favorable views of the movement. Half of respondents said they view the party unfavorably.

    Those numbers represent a considerable dive in support since the Tea Party's heyday in 2009, when a majority of voters rated it favorably...

    ...The movement is now widely seen by the public as declining, according to the Rasmussen poll -- 56 percent of voters said the Tea Party became less influential over the past year, and just 8 percent said they identified as part of the Tea Party movement.

    Proof that the die-hard 30% of conservatives in this country are cuckoo-for-Cocoa-Puffs.


    Yes (none / 0) (#108)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 01:38:24 PM EST
    and you want to know why? Because Romney spent 4 years telling the wackos he was on "their" side. After four years, apparently the majority of people were afraid that was where he was. The GOP base would not allow him to run as a moderate until October and it was too late. Picking a far right VP candidate like Paul Ryan hurt too.

    People already knew who McCain was for better or worse but look at McCain's demographics. IIRC he did much better with Hispanic voters. And Romney actually did better with working class white voters than McCain but hey, it ain't 1950 anymore Jim.

    And then to top it off, Republicans are dying off and not attracting enough new members to even replace the numbers that are dying off.


    clearly the hard core is like a beagle (none / 0) (#33)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 09:53:45 AM EST
    untrainable.  the question is will the establishment allow them to drag the party in to permanent minority status.  it may happen but it will be at the very least fun to watch.

    It is extremely unlikely that the Democratic (5.00 / 1) (#51)
    by Mr Natural on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 10:53:31 AM EST
    party will become more responsive to its supporters if there does not exist a viable counter-party and competitor.

    I have noticed that (none / 0) (#97)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 01:09:55 PM EST
    I have also noticed that the homeless disappear when a Demo is in the WH and even the anti-war comments largely disappeared when Obama took over.

    It's a human thing.


    A nose with ears and a tail (none / 0) (#147)
    by MKS on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 07:21:24 PM EST
    The descrition of beagles as applying to conservatives.  Cool.

    I predict a presidential bid (none / 0) (#23)
    by Chuck0 on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 08:44:37 AM EST
    by Cory Booker at some point in the future.

    wouldnt be surprised (none / 0) (#32)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 09:52:10 AM EST
    but I would be very surprised if he challenged Hillary.

    Or (none / 0) (#36)
    by jbindc on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 09:55:59 AM EST
    Oh god no... (5.00 / 1) (#80)
    by kdog on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 12:46:32 PM EST
    forget a chicken in every pot, scanners on every doorstep!

    I like Julian Castor as Hillary's VP (none / 0) (#149)
    by MKS on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 07:22:54 PM EST
    Maybe Cory Booker as VP?

    Hillary will clearly have the pick of the litter....


    Do you mean Julian Castro? (none / 0) (#153)
    by MO Blue on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 07:58:28 PM EST
    It seems there is some talk in Texas of him being another Obama.

    Texas Democratic powerbrokers are quietly promoting rising star Julian Castro as a consensus building leader with bipartisan support as they position the charismatic San Antonio mayor for the party's 2016 presidential ticket.

    In Julian Castro, who vaulted into the American spotlight at the Democratic National Convention last September, Democrats believe they have what one party leader called "the next Obama" who could be vital to retaining the White House. link



    Well we got a Hussein, as a middle name anyway (none / 0) (#179)
    by ruffian on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 10:16:13 AM EST
    I think a Castro is the next logical progression.

    A jump (none / 0) (#186)
    by CoralGables on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 10:39:32 AM EST
    from mayor to VP? Has never happened. Sounds like a Palin type leap.

    Uh (5.00 / 1) (#189)
    by jbindc on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 10:52:18 AM EST
    Palin was a governor, so a leap to VP is the norm and not a "leap".

    The bigger leap was for Obama to go from Senator to president, since a) he was very, very junior, and b) it rarely happens.


    Alaska's population (none / 0) (#192)
    by CoralGables on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 10:56:03 AM EST
    is smaller than San Antonio. But San Antonio isn't even the biggest city in Texas.

    So? (none / 0) (#193)
    by jbindc on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 11:01:17 AM EST
    Being a governor is completely different than being a mayor of a city.

    Actually a Governor is far better (none / 0) (#194)
    by CoralGables on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 11:08:47 AM EST
    than a mayor. But size matters and Palin obviously wasn't ready for the big stage. Same for Castro, but Castro having never been to Washington or run statewide would likely be the biggest leap of all. (other than the James Stockdale attempt)

    Yes (none / 0) (#196)
    by jbindc on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 11:31:28 AM EST
    Any mayor successfully running for the Presidency would be a huge leap, since they generally don't deal with a true, diverse, legislative body or a true, diverse population with varying needs (urban dwellers certainly have have very different needs, populations, and views of those in the suburbs or rural communities).  San Antonio is a large city with a population over a million; Newark, NJ has fewer than 300,000.  Neither has demographics that are representative of the rest of the country.

    Plus, running a city is a very different animal than running things at the federal level.  The only mayor who, at least for argument's sake, would have experience and understandings in dealing with the federal government would be the mayor of Washington, DC (and he's certainly not going to higher office any time soon - he'll be lucky if he can keep his job until the end of the year).


    Hillary has enough (none / 0) (#198)
    by MKS on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 11:37:30 AM EST
    experience so Julian need not have any.

    San Antonio is a large city with a population greater than Alaska.

    And Castro is smart.  Unlike....


    May I just say... (none / 0) (#183)
    by sj on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 10:28:29 AM EST

    Ain't no such thing:

    a consensus building leader with bipartisan support
    One of these days Dem leadership is going to discover that they get further developing good policy than they ever will chasing GOP support.  

    yes, typo (none / 0) (#200)
    by MKS on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 11:39:00 AM EST
    Mr. Lay Off Private Equity (none / 0) (#44)
    by Dadler on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 10:40:33 AM EST
    He's like Obama with muscles -- buff and empty.

    From Beyonce's lip synching (none / 0) (#16)
    by jbindc on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 07:43:04 AM EST
    To Obama's "skeet shooting", to the latest  story of national importance: Michelle Obama's butt, or rather, rants about her butt by fat old white men.

    (cue eye roll)

    Have any of the men mentioned in this article looked in a mirror lately??

    All i can (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 08:35:23 AM EST
    say is the GOP really needs to get a life.

    And they will -- yours. (none / 0) (#109)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 01:38:26 PM EST
    And your little dog, too.

    BWAH-HAH-Hah-hah-hah-hah ...!!!


    heh (none / 0) (#165)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 09:27:06 PM EST
    thinking the same thing when I read this today:

    House Majority Leader Eric Cantor's effort to rebrand the Republican Party didn't lack for ambition. "Making Life Work," it was called.

    I thought before they make life work they would need to get one.


    Sounds like... (1.00 / 1) (#25)
    by kdog on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 09:27:05 AM EST
    jealousy of the president to me...finest first booty ever! ;)

    Is this your first (none / 0) (#181)
    by oculus on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 10:27:56 AM EST
    "1" rating?

    Is this your first (none / 0) (#182)
    by oculus on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 10:27:56 AM EST
    "1" rating?

    If it is (none / 0) (#187)
    by CoralGables on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 10:42:11 AM EST
    the dog needs to up his game.

    Da dawg reminded me the AL also (none / 0) (#188)
    by oculus on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 10:48:54 AM EST
    includes a team that travels north for grapefruit.

    You had the Rangers (AL) (none / 0) (#190)
    by CoralGables on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 10:54:37 AM EST
    and the Padres (NL)

    Still missing the most obvious. Thought for sure yesterday's hint would do it. Should I quote Hemingway again for hint #2?

    "I love you and respect you very much. But I will kill you dead before this day ends."


    Kdog says Marlins. I forgot about FL ST. (5.00 / 1) (#199)
    by oculus on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 11:37:32 AM EST
    How was the concert? (none / 0) (#191)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 10:55:27 AM EST
    Very cool... (5.00 / 1) (#195)
    by kdog on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 11:23:07 AM EST
    Mayall is a spry 79...still banging the keys standing up, along with the harp and the Fender.  Solid backup band, as to be expected.

    A little Sonny Boy, a little Freddie King, some Mayall originals...groovy baby.  

    Our pal Oc got in the mood I think...started on wine and next thing I know she is knocking back a double Jameson.  Oculus can hang...the blues claims another soul;)


    Wonderful concert, which gathered momentum (5.00 / 1) (#197)
    by oculus on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 11:32:41 AM EST
    to the point even the bass guitar got some time in the spotlight. As to that Jameson's , that was the largest "double" I have ever seen. Dreamt last night I was stopped at a DUI checkpoint and you were not there and it was not my car.

    O must by this time find this stuff as (none / 0) (#18)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 07:56:46 AM EST
    amusing as I do.  his spokesperson answers a direct question with an honest answer and it is instantly challenged as a lie.  so they release a photo, again specifically requested, and THAT is challenged as photoshop starts a whole new round of whackadoodle.
    at this point its just funny.

    but you know, its probably not best to disparage the discussion of a particular story while discussion that story.


    I see that Mr. Slimy Doughboy (none / 0) (#19)
    by MO Blue on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 07:58:39 AM EST
    a.k.a. Rush Limbaugh was one of men commenting. Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner was another. Here are a few images of him that definitely indicate that the qualifies for the F.O.W.M. club. Check out image #5 where he is stuffing his face.

    Limbaugh's made several comments ... (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by Yman on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 09:30:24 AM EST
    ... about Michelle Obama's weight.  I'm always incredulous when I hear him make a comment about anyone's weight, particularly using it as an insult.  Does he not own a mirror ... or a scale ... or a dictionary (with the definition of "hypocrite").  Maybe he just assumes it's not an issue because he's a man?

    Capt (1.50 / 2) (#34)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 09:55:18 AM EST
    I assume you're speaking of the pic of Obama shooting a gun.... designed, I guess, to prove to us nonbelievers that he loves him some shooting..

    The deal is this. You don't shoot skeet at eye level. The gun should have been around 45 - 55 degrees up. And if he was just shooting, which is fine with me, he is gonna have a very sore shoulder and maybe a bruised cheek.

    My guess, he shot it once.

    But I really don't care and share your concern over the attention it has brought when we should be worried over gasoline spiking 35 cents in a week for no known reason and finding out that the annual bill for family health care insurance will be in the $20K range.


    BTW - Welcome back (none / 0) (#35)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 09:55:47 AM EST
    AR loss is out gain!

    Your "guesses" ... (none / 0) (#130)
    by Yman on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 02:54:03 PM EST
    ... are funny.

    Please say a positive word in support of (none / 0) (#39)
    by oculus on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 10:27:46 AM EST
    this segment of law enforcement:

    Alabama kidnap victim is rescued

    Thank goodness that's over (none / 0) (#41)
    by jbindc on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 10:34:11 AM EST
    and the little boy is ok.

    Risky move... (none / 0) (#50)
    by kdog on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 10:52:18 AM EST
    glad it worked out.

    Is that a subtle expression of (none / 0) (#67)
    by oculus on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 11:54:11 AM EST
    praise gor law enforcement limited to this specific incident?  I do wonder if they  the boy's hearing will suffer.  

    Alan Dershowitz speaks: (none / 0) (#42)
    by oculus on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 10:38:23 AM EST
    Baddest trumpet riff ever (none / 0) (#47)
    by Dadler on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 10:45:21 AM EST
    And what the hell (none / 0) (#48)
    by Dadler on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 10:51:09 AM EST
    And I have to post this one again (none / 0) (#52)
    by Dadler on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 10:56:40 AM EST
    All I have to say is (none / 0) (#89)
    by Zorba on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 12:58:57 PM EST
    that this is totally inappropriate.
    And a warning for those of you whose computer use at work may be monitored: there is some totally NSFW language involved.
    Former Executive Director of the South Carolina Republican party, Todd Kincannon, spent the Super Bowl publishing a series of tweets joking about Trayvon Martin's death.

    He may think that he's a modern-day Jonathon Swift, and he may indeed believe that he is
    a freedom of speech patriot, educating America about the importance of speaking your mind.

    But he's a complete jerk.  I have a few more words that I could call him, but not in this forum without violating the site rules.

    Racist, homophobic, misogynistic GOP creeps (5.00 / 2) (#95)
    by shoephone on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 01:05:51 PM EST
    They're all coming out of the woodwork, aren't they? Just like cockroaches. Seems to be happening on a daily basis.

    Cockroaches (5.00 / 1) (#102)
    by Zorba on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 01:25:27 PM EST
    is an apt descriptor, shoephone.  Although given this guy's Tweets, this may be an insult to cockroaches.

    He's (5.00 / 1) (#113)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 01:55:05 PM EST
    a Republican and he's from South Carolina. Need I say more? Those two things should get the ball rolling in your mind.

    When is (none / 0) (#94)
    by jbindc on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 01:04:46 PM EST
    The death of a 17 year old boy EVER joke material??

    Beats the (none / 0) (#99)
    by Zorba on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 01:18:08 PM EST
    he!! out of me, jb.  All I know is that this is so totally disgusting, I was shocked when I read it, and at my age, I don't shock easily.

    Once comment would have been bad (none / 0) (#103)
    by jbindc on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 01:25:36 PM EST
    But he's kinda obsessed with Trayvon Martin...

    He's obsessed (none / 0) (#107)
    by Zorba on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 01:32:28 PM EST
    about something, jb.  Race, Trayvon Martin, and apparently homosexuality and Jim Nabors' marriage to his long-time boyfriend, as well.
    Maybe he "Tweeted While Drunk."  Who the he!! knows???  This appears to be how this example of sub-humanity feels.

    Beat me to it.. (5.00 / 1) (#115)
    by kdog on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 01:58:36 PM EST
    the number #1 obsession seems to be c*cksucking.

    I'm as big a fan of off-color humor as the next guy...this clown forgot the humor.  Context is everything.


    He's obsessed with a certain part of the anatomy, (none / 0) (#116)
    by Angel on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 02:00:06 PM EST
    and what he imagines others are doing with it. Makes me wonder if he's in the closet.  

    I actually thought of this, too, Angel (none / 0) (#121)
    by Zorba on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 02:23:47 PM EST
    Bad me, maybe, but you do have to wonder......

    What a lovely man.... (none / 0) (#98)
    by kdog on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 01:17:43 PM EST
    I'm reminded me of the musings of Royce White, in this interview with Grantland's Chuck Klosterman.

    "As much as we want to think that these are just people behind computer screens, those people are living next door to you," he says. "They are people behind computer screens in schools. In hospitals. Working in Washington, D.C. These are real people. How many times does this stuff have to happen before we admit something really disturbing is going on here? I think one person tweeting 'Fuck you, go kill yourself' is disturbing. But when you get into the hundreds of those tweets? The thousands of those tweets? I see a lot of people out there with really volatile mental disorders that are not getting help...."

    Something disturbing is most definitely going on here, whether it is new or on the sharp rise or just cyberized I don't know...but it feels like the human race has gone totally mad, driven insane by the societal systems we created to make life easier, but have come to control us instead of us controlling them.  If that makes any sense.


    Ooops... (none / 0) (#100)
    by kdog on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 01:18:52 PM EST
    link to the whole interview...interesting kid, interesting read.

    I understand (none / 0) (#101)
    by Zorba on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 01:22:27 PM EST
    what you're talking about, kdog.  
    We have a friend who is often says "Humans are a near miss."  
    I would amend that to say "Way too many humans are a far miss."
    It's very disturbing, and alarming, and just so, so sad.  For us, for our society and culture, for people in general.    :-(

    These people DO live next door to me, kdog (none / 0) (#122)
    by shoephone on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 02:30:37 PM EST
    But they are a somewhat softened version. Or maybe they just keep the really nasty stuff to themselves most of the time. Still, I've seen the true nature of their ickiness come out on a few occasions -- and it is almost always based on sexuality! Well, they're god-fearing church-going Jeezus people, dontcha know.

    Wow. Read more about his tweets that day. (none / 0) (#110)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 01:40:55 PM EST
    They include "jokes" about Natalie Wood and Jim Nabers. No shame.

    Paid sick leave coming to a town near you? (none / 0) (#111)
    by jbindc on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 01:44:19 PM EST
    Tom Harkin is going to try to push for it.

    But the reality is that staying home from work for several days to recuperate and recover from the flu -- or something worse -- is challenging or impossible for tens of millions of Americans. Forty percent of private-sector workers have no access to paid sick days, meaning that they cannot miss a day of work without risking a day's pay or even risking their job. So these hardworking people must make an impossible choice between the job they need and their health and well-being.

    It's a choice that no American should have to make -- which is why, this year, I plan to reintroduce the Healthy Families Act, a bill that would allow workers to earn paid sick days that can be used to recover from a short-term illness, care for a sick family member, obtain preventive or diagnostic treatment or seek help if they have been victims of domestic violence.

    I have always thought that (5.00 / 3) (#123)
    by Zorba on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 02:31:56 PM EST
    everyone should be extremely concerned about the fact that there are so many workers who cannot take time off when they are sick because they do not get paid for this.
    Aside from the humanitarian aspects of this (which is my over-riding concern), there is a practical aspect.
    Are people comfortable with the fact that those who serve them as food servers and preparers, those who take care of their children in day care, those who deal with the public in any way, may be coming to work sick and infectious because they cannot afford to take a day off from work?  Do you want you, or your children and loved ones, exposed to who-knows-what?
    It's not just a humanitarian concern.  It's a public health concern.

    I know - I'm one of them (5.00 / 2) (#129)
    by jbindc on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 02:52:38 PM EST
    I work in a "white collar" job, yet because I work from project to project as a temp/contractor and I am paid by the hour, I cannot take off work (well, I could, but my bank account is not so forgiving).  I know I've come to work several times when my co-workers would have greatly appreciated that I stay home, especially as we tend to have anywhere from 10-50 people sitting pretty close to one another in one room.

    DC has a law in place like this already, except it was "clarified" about a year ago to state that this benefit kicks in if you have worked for the same company for a year - only then you may start accruing hours.  Not really a help for someone like me who may work for several different agencies / employers in any given year -my clock starts over every time I change employers, so it's rare that I get to take advantage of this. So, I do what I can to stay healthy, and frankly, if I have a cold  or sinus infection (a once or twice a year event), then I profusely apologize to my co-workers, but I come to work - sneezing, hacking, and all.


    They're hacking up lungs... (none / 0) (#132)
    by kdog on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 03:07:25 PM EST
    all around my cube...flu, bronchitis, colds...you name it...its a wonder I haven't caught anything yet this season.  I credit my avoidance of the hand sanitizer dispenser they all use excessively;)

    But I don't mind...we get paid sick days, but who wants to use 'em all before February is over...not me.  I drag my arse to work sick too, and save those paid sick days to be enjoyed while healthy.

    I realize this makes me kind of an arsehole but my conscience is ok with it...I'm not lookin' to blame anybody else for the failings of my immune system, neither should anybody else.  It's the flu, not the plague...part of being alive.


    Kdog, it may not be (5.00 / 1) (#135)
    by Zorba on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 03:26:43 PM EST
    the plague, but people have died from the flu.  Particularly more vulnerable people.  The very young, the very old, and those with compromised immune systems.  
    Your co-workers may be strong enough to withstand the flu, but are the people they live with so lucky?  Their children, their parents, and maybe their relatives or close friends and neighbors with poor immune systems?
    I love you dearly, kdog, but this is not just about you or your own immune system.  This is about everyone around you, and everyone whom the people around you contact.  
    As I said, this is a public health concern.

    I guess it is good... (5.00 / 1) (#137)
    by kdog on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 03:57:48 PM EST
    they all came to work sick...so they don't infect anybody at home who may be vulnerable....they just might infect me or vice versa.

    It is a public health concern, no doubt, but I don't think sick people going to work is our main problem, kind of a red herring if you ask me...the overuse of antibiotics and antibacterial soaps and such is the main problem, leading to stronger viruses and bacterial infections.  

    I mentioned my moms had a mild flu case after getting the flu shot a couple weeks back.  She is sick again...called to check on her and her doctor prescribed antibiotics.  I'm tempted to tell her to give her immunes a little more time to do their magic before filling that script as a last resort.

    But of course I'm all for paid sick leave for all workers...don't mind my d*ckish dose of honesty.


    It's not just (5.00 / 2) (#138)
    by Zorba on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 04:18:39 PM EST
    the overuse of antibiotics, kdog (which, of course, is another concern that I could write reams about).  
    In actuality, the whole thing is really about, not just paid sick days, but accessible health care.
    And by this I mean, single-payer, universal health care.
    This is an extremely complex subject.  And, unfortunately, this is not something that is going to be solved in my lifetime.

    Missed opportunity. (5.00 / 2) (#140)
    by lentinel on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 04:36:17 PM EST
    In actuality, the whole thing is really about, not just paid sick days, but accessible health care.
    And by this I mean, single-payer, universal health care.
    This is an extremely complex subject.  And, unfortunately, this is not something that is going to be solved in my lifetime.

    Maybe it won't be solved anytime soon.

    But it could be.
    It could have been.


    Exactly, lentinel (5.00 / 1) (#143)
    by Zorba on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 05:37:51 PM EST
    "Could have been," and should have been.
    If only our government was so not absolutely in bed with the health insurance industry.
    Why anyone thought that health care should have been left to the (mostly) for-profit insurance industry in the first place, I will never understand.  Medicare For All.  That is all I have to say.

    Lindsey Vonn wrecks in Super G (none / 0) (#125)
    by Cylinder on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 02:39:29 PM EST
    Lindsey Vonn Tears Knee Ligaments, out for Season

    Lindsey Vonn will miss the rest of the ski season after tearing knee ligaments and breaking a bone in her leg in a high-speed crash Tuesday at the world championships. The U.S. team expects her to return for the next World Cup season and the 2014 Sochi Olympics.

    Vonn lost balance on her right leg while landing a jump in the super-G. She flipped in the air, landed on her back and smashed through a gate before coming to a halt.

    The four-time overall World Cup winner and 2010 Olympic downhill champion received medical treatment on the slope for 12 minutes before being taken by helicopter to a hospital in Schladming.

    Torn ACL and MCL.

    since I dont have a cd player in my van (none / 0) (#159)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 08:39:12 PM EST
    I always listen to NPRs morning classical show while  I am delivering.  today the played music from HALO 3.  has the world gone mad?

    Alex Rodriguez, Melkys Cabrera (none / 0) (#162)
    by CoralGables on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 09:11:52 PM EST
    and Ryan Braun all pop up in files at Miami PED clinic. Looks like a few MLB ballplayers with ties to Miami or ties to the University of Miami baseball team are appearing in clinic files. The Biogenesis Clinic is (was) across the street from the University.

    Also (none / 0) (#164)
    by CoralGables on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 09:23:59 PM EST
    Yankees catcher Francisco Cervelli and Orioles third baseman Danny Valencia.

    And (none / 0) (#167)
    by CoralGables on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 09:45:17 PM EST
    Tigers pitcher Cesar Carrillo and Nationals pitcher Gio Gonzalez.

    another one bites the dust (none / 0) (#166)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 09:30:18 PM EST
    Dick Morris out at Fox News

    poor dick.  cant a guy be a cartoonishly evil embarrassment anymore?

    can Karl be far behind?

    I think (5.00 / 2) (#170)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 05:49:57 AM EST
    Karl got the boot soon after the election. I cannot tell you how many people believed Morris' claim of Romney having a landslide.

    Of course, you should know that Bill Clinton put Morris on Fox News to confuse and mislead conservatives. Bill Clinton wins yet again! (snark alert).


    I am the champion my friends (none / 0) (#169)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 01:00:40 AM EST
    And I can't keep fighting... until the end.....cuz they went to bed.  I am the champion.  I am the champion.  No time for losers (I picture the L on the forehead from Jerry Mcguire), cuz I am the champion of lineage facebook.

    That's not right. It lacks tempo, and adagio does not compensate but I tried.  Someone with music chops must forgive me.

    The only person who can celebrate with me is ruffian.  It was a Command Performance (that I volunteered for according to my cousin) and that has led to me not being able to inherit family foodstamp benefits.  I have paid a terrible price :)  Fake boobs were involved.  You should have been there.

    I guess (5.00 / 2) (#171)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 05:51:20 AM EST
    this is one those things where you had to be there to understand?

    LOL....I just read some of your posts (5.00 / 1) (#180)
    by ruffian on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 10:21:33 AM EST
    sounds like an epic battle! You know, sometimes you just have to say it out loud, and you have more courage than most to do just that.  

    Wasn't that awful? (5.00 / 1) (#185)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 10:38:40 AM EST
    That happened because my Uncle put up a photo of President Obama and Michelle Obama, I think it was taken at a basketball game.  They were both focused on something and they had strange looks on their faces.  Then someone photoshopped a banana in there implying that the Obama's become entranced by the presence of a banana and all that that entails.

    I usually try to let my family's racism go by but that was too much for me.  I didn't name anyone though.  I just posted that some of my family members embarrass me with their racism.  It was his dad though and he knew who I meant.  And he's a proud Christian and I'm on welfare.  


    John O. Brennan (none / 0) (#177)
    by lentinel on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 09:40:57 AM EST
    His qualifications for being Obama's choice for head of the CIA:

    From his basement office in the White House, Mr. Brennan has served as the principal coordinator of a "kill list" of Qaeda operatives marked for death, overseeing drone strikes by the military and the C.I.A., and advising Mr. Obama on which strikes he should approve.

    And not only that, but:

    As a top agency official under President George W. Bush Mr. Brennan had supported, or at least failed to stop, the use of interrogation techniques like waterboarding that are widely considered to be torture.

    Drone strikes. From a playroom in the basement. What fun.

    And torture - especially waterboarding (oops, I mean "simulated drowning") - You gotta love it. That choking and gurgling sound.
    That filthy wet rag suffocating the "suspect". The best.

    No wonder Obama couldn't resist naming this great and lovable guy.

    Only a few weeks into Obama's second term, I can't wait for it to be over.