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Watching TV tonight: Shameless, the Good Wife and the finale of Downton Abbey.

There are new details in the Pistorius murder case.

Adam Lanza is back in the news, PBS's Frontline will run a show on Tuesday, Raising Adam Lanza.

This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    This makes too much sense. (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by MO Blue on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 08:05:33 AM EST
    doubt that it will happen at least here as the U.S. hasn't found a corporate loophole that it doesn't embrace.

    ❖ "UK Chancellor George Osborne and his French and German counterparts are to call for global tax rules to clamp down on corporate tax avoidance." link


    New twist on corporate compensation? (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by MO Blue on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 08:20:11 AM EST
    Doubt Lew's priorities will be anything other than to protect Wall St. and the banksters.

    At last we know how the grease is funneled to that revolving door between Wall Street and Washington. One only gets a $940,000 bonus from Wall Street's Citigroup if you can land a "full time high level position with the United States Government or a regulatory body." It can't be just a part-time job, mind you; and you can't be rank and file. Citigroup's dangling carrot will only pay $940,000 if the company can add a "high level" government mover and shaker to their gold-plated Rolodex.

    This was the bombshell dropped by Senator Orrin Hatch yesterday in Jack Lew's confirmation hearing for one of the highest offices in the land - Secretary of the U.S. Treasury who will also head the body that makes critical decisions impacting Citigroup - the Financial Stability Oversight Council. (Lew held an executive position with Citigroup at the time of its collapse.)

    ".... Third, your employment agreement included a clause stating that `your guaranteed incentive and retention award' would not be paid upon exit from Citigroup but there was an exception that you would receive that compensation `as a result of your acceptance of a full time high level position with the United States Government or a regulatory body.' Now is this exception consistent with President Obama's efforts to `close the revolving door' that carries special interest influence in and out of the government?" link



    GAO - $22 Trillion in economic damages... (none / 0) (#23)
    by Mr Natural on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 01:04:06 PM EST
    That's what these paragons of depraved indifference cost us.


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    This... (5.00 / 2) (#25)
    by Mr Natural on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 01:19:37 PM EST
    Link doesn't seem to work (none / 0) (#24)
    by MO Blue on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 01:06:37 PM EST
    How can (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by lentinel on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 08:33:03 AM EST
    anyone take our protestations of human rights abuses in other countries seriously when President Obama refuses to investigate Bush administration officials who bear responsibility for authorizing the transfer of "suspects" to "black sites" where they were tortured.

    And he nominates John Brennan to head the CIA.
    Does he think the world community is unaware of Mr. Brennan's history and dark predilections?

    Add to that this from the NYTimes;

    Mr. Obama has adopted the Bush administration's claim of a right to carry out targeted killings of suspected terrorists, including Americans, off the battlefield without judicial review or meaningful Congressional oversight.

    As the NYTimes concludes:

    "... pressure for the United States and its partners to acknowledge and make amends for gross violations of international legal and human rights standards is unlikely to subside."

    From all appearances, this pressure will have to come from outside since no one at home seems to care.

    It took 46 years (none / 0) (#16)
    by CoralGables on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 10:47:53 AM EST
    before the investigations into FDR authorizing internment with the signing of Executive Order 9066 in 1942 were completed.

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    A (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by lentinel on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 11:37:01 AM EST
    shameful precedent.

    It appears to me, however, that more was known about what was being done at that time. It was on our soil, after all.
    Hard to keep a secret about it. I certainly knew about it. My parents knew about it.

    Having said that, are you implying that it is OK with you to forestall investigations of what we are doing to people until 2059?
    Are you interested, or would you just as soon forget about it?
    Or do you feel you know what they are doing, and it is OK with you.

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    No (none / 0) (#22)
    by CoralGables on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 12:51:37 PM EST
    not saying it's okay, but also know that decisions happen fast, and the backtrack takes many years.

    And this comes from someone whose great great grandfather (who was born in the US) went to federal prison under the Espionage and Sedition Acts, essentially for speaking German while living in Covington, Kentucky.

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    are you really comparing (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by sj on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 11:49:58 AM EST
    internment, a true abomination but a targeted and public policy, with corruption at all levels of those who "lead our country"?  We should be patient until the 47th year while the .1% become the .0001%?

    [I didn't look up those numbers.  It's the idea that's the point.]

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    Define "no one" (none / 0) (#18)
    by sj on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 11:41:09 AM EST
    You're slipping into flawed logic territory :)

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    You're (5.00 / 1) (#20)
    by lentinel on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 12:46:18 PM EST
    right.

    I was slipping.

    I know that many people care.

    I think that when I wrote that I was referring to what I perceive as the lack of interest on the part of elected politicians. I haven't detected a passion to get to the bottom of what went on, and is going on.

    Tangentially, I really find it upsetting that Bush and Cheney among others are being let off the hook. I find it disturbing that Brennan would have been selected by Obama to head the CIA.

    Bush said publicly, many times, that "we don't torture". It would seem that he was able to say that, with that disgusting smirk of his, in that while "we" don't, we knowingly turn those "suspects" over to people who do.

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    Being reported (none / 0) (#1)
    by CoralGables on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 08:42:49 PM EST
    that Mindy McCready killed herself tonight.