Sunday Night TV and Open Thread

Weeds ends tonight, for good, with an hour long finale. I could watch a few more seasons.

Boardwalk Empire begins a new season tonight.

The new judges for American Idol are set: Mariah Carey, Nicki Minnaj and Keith Urban. Is Keith the counter to Blake Shelton on the Voice? Randy Jackson is back as the fourth judge. Check out these salaries:

According to sources, Carey’s contract with the show, factoring in allowances for wardrobe, hair and makeup, is worth close to $18 million. Minaj will pocket a cool $12 million for her part with Urban coming in at half the price. Seacrest earns $15 million a year and is committed to the show for two more seasons. The new judges are locked in for one year. Worth noting: Jackson also co-manages Carey.

What Idol needs is better contestants. The last couple of seasons have been boring. The Voice and X-Factor have better singers. This is an open thread, all topics, tv-related or not, welcome.

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    I really, really hope she wins (5.00 / 3) (#2)
    by NYShooter on Sun Sep 16, 2012 at 10:40:38 PM EST
    Ms Warren is about the closest thing to a true representative of the People that I've seen in a long, long time. Oh, I know, as more scrutiny is put on her that some things will come out which will dampen the feelings somewhat, but that's to be expected. And, of course, there will always be the Wingers who would call her a "Socialist, bleeding heart, phony, even if she discovered eternal life, eradication of all disease, and perpetual prosperity.

    But, in spite of all that, she gives me Hope.....and that's been missing like, forever.

    I liked Boardwalk Empire more and more (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by ruffian on Mon Sep 17, 2012 at 07:00:52 AM EST
    First season I was lukewarm, 2nd season I liked, this new season with Bobby Cannavale added to the cast shows a lot of promise. He can deliver the violence with such dry humor that I forget to be appalled.

    Yes, Boardwalk Empire is (none / 0) (#9)
    by KeysDan on Mon Sep 17, 2012 at 10:24:39 AM EST
    one of those series that you have to stick with.  Season Three continues with the great sets and costumes   Without Jimmy, Nucky is less mixed and more a pure thug--and with "Gyp Rosetti" (Bobby Cannavale) as sort of a plot replacement, we seem to be moving toward the theme of the Sopranos with mob leader take overs in the air.   The Tin Man's revenge on Manny apparently was in response to Gillian Darmody's admonition for erasure of the past. Moreover, New York LIfe would be well-advised not to taken out a policy on Gillian.   More cartoon-like violence in store, but, perhaps, tempered by the excellence of the acting and singing of Stephen De Rosa who plays the iconic "Eddie Cantor."

    Thanks for saving me looking up who plays Eddie (5.00 / 2) (#16)
    by ruffian on Mon Sep 17, 2012 at 02:01:56 PM EST
    He really is good.

    Love the side story with Margaret interested in the woman flyer too. Beautiful scene at the end.

    Tin Man with little Tommy was moving.

    The episode really set a lot of balls in motion, didn't it?

    And yes, the production values really matter to me. I know a lot of shows might be just as good plot-wise, but they don't give me a 'beauty fix' at all with either the camera work or the dialogue the way this one does.


    I love the theme music too (none / 0) (#17)
    by DFLer on Mon Sep 17, 2012 at 07:19:06 PM EST
    Have you noticed that theme music has disappeared from network tv? Cheap bastards!

    Elizabeth Warren (none / 0) (#1)
    by CoralGables on Sun Sep 16, 2012 at 09:51:30 PM EST
    takes the lead in another Massachusetts poll (PPP). The two post convention polls thus far for the Mass Senate race have both put Warren in the lead.

    As in the last poll, Warren's gain appears to tie in with the recent increase in Dem enthusiasm to vote.

    Did anyone watch the finale of Weeds? (none / 0) (#3)
    by Jeralyn on Mon Sep 17, 2012 at 01:35:16 AM EST
    Pot became legal and the world didn't end. All the characters came back for Stevie's bar mitzvah, and all the story lines wrapped up. I liked it a lot.

    I did (none / 0) (#4)
    by nycstray on Mon Sep 17, 2012 at 02:16:50 AM EST
    I need to go back and watch last week's episode because I'm not sure I saw it and felt disconnected when this episode started (I had a busy last Sunday and week!). But, liked the episode (and cool electronics!) and the world didn't end angle because pot was what it should be :)

    Thanks for the heads up about the finale. I was in football land when I logged in and saw your heads up :)


    I thought it was really well done (none / 0) (#5)
    by ruffian on Mon Sep 17, 2012 at 06:55:35 AM EST
    I loved the way it started with Nancy addressing a classroom of parents, just like the very first episode. And the recurring bit with Doug having his son abducted to come talk to him was really funny.

    Great to see Stevie as a teen too - what a fantastic speech.

    One thing though - I can't remember what happened to Celia. Did she die at some point?

    Most of the characters have gotten on my nerves from time to time over the years, but I respect that the show never tried to cover up their flaws. I thought where they ended up at the point of the finale was great.

    I do have undying love for Andy,and Justin Kirk deserves so much better than that silly animal hospital show he is doing now.


    One of my old dealers was born from a rape (none / 0) (#8)
    by Dadler on Mon Sep 17, 2012 at 10:17:41 AM EST
    He had issues like you couldn't believe, but was a straight up nice guy almost all the time, just don't get him drunk.  Didn't look like Mary Louise Parker tho. He dealt to make extra money to pay for his own illegitimate son, who was already getting in trouble with the law.  Weeds, while nicely acted and politically up my alley, was always a tad too suburban softball for me.  Which is also why, having lived ten feet from tweekers who made meth and sold it, Breaking Bad holds no appeal for me. I lived it from, literally, ten feet away in the socal ghetto.  Every day we lived on pins and needles, waiting for the bullet to come through our window, or for the most phucked up of the tweekers to kill someone, which he threatened to do on a daily basis.  I don't know if the cops on the beat AND their landlord were getting their crank from these people, but nothing got done for years.  For me, all the movies and TV add up to tourism on the subject.  I wish they didn't, because I would like to be able to enjoy what so many others seem to love.  Such is my fate. ;-)

    I'm with you on that, Dadler (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by shoephone on Mon Sep 17, 2012 at 10:37:33 AM EST
    My first year of college, I lived next door to a married couple who were so strung out on heroin their drama bled into our lives the entire time they were there. Blech. Moreover, I refuse to watch shows about mobsters, since I waited tables at a restaurant run by that ilk. Those creeps hold no appeal for me, even on TV.

    Espically the fact (none / 0) (#11)
    by nyjets on Mon Sep 17, 2012 at 11:45:09 AM EST
    Most shows about mobsters have a tendency to glorify mobsters. They do not show all of the horrible things that mobsters routinely do and all of the innocent people that they hurt.

    And in the case of banksters... (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by kdog on Mon Sep 17, 2012 at 12:01:12 PM EST
    the government glorifies them, ignoring all the horrible things they do...ya gotta turn on the tv to get a more honest portrayal.

    Go figure! ;)


    Exactly. That's the main reason I won't (none / 0) (#13)
    by shoephone on Mon Sep 17, 2012 at 12:27:25 PM EST
    The glorification of it for entertainment value is extremely disturbing to me.

    And I realize the ironies all over my post (none / 0) (#14)
    by Dadler on Mon Sep 17, 2012 at 12:52:11 PM EST
    I had dealers when necessary to satisfy my jones (albeit a much softer and herbal one), yet I b*tch about having lived next door to dealers who were feeding the different jones of different people, themselves included. But this is PRECISELY what I mean.  To dramatize, so often, is to trivialize.  We're all so full of sh*t so often it's a wonder we can breathe.  The increasingly private police state will do that to an otherwise good people.  And THAT, I suppose, is the ultimate point.

    Does "pine and needles" indicate (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by oculus on Mon Sep 17, 2012 at 01:02:38 PM EST
    an addiction to Retsina?

    Only Two Teams in the AFC 2-0 (none / 0) (#7)
    by ScottW714 on Mon Sep 17, 2012 at 09:12:58 AM EST
    Which is CraZy, but even crazier is one of them Is Houston, the other San Diego.

    Here is a cool chart (see below) making the rounds, fans by region.  Looks like as far as square miles, the Broncos got the most coverage, taking in nearly 5 states of fans.

    But a question for Donald, where do Hawaii fans sit.  I assume west coast teams, and guessing the 49ers for the most part.

    Ditto for anyone in Alaska, who do Alaskans cheer for in the NFL, again, guessing Seattle.

    My link function isn't working, apologies, but url is short: