Wednesday Open Thread

Another Guantanamo detainee released. Ibrahim al Qosi, a former driver for Osama bin Laden, finished his sentence and is repatriated to Sudan. He spent 10 years at Guantanamo.

Who's left? The Miami Herald reports 168, including 46 designated for indefinite detention, without charge or trial.

The new discovery in the George Zimmerman case will be available to the media tomorrow morning. The Orlando Sentinel describes what is likely to be included. It will be the items from the Second Discovery Disclosure not exempted by law and the judge.

This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    More on (5.00 / 2) (#1)
    by jbindc on Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 04:43:05 PM EST
    Obama's push to extend the Bush tax cuts for "middle class" and how the entire media is getting it wrong.  Even here at this blog, our hostess incorrectly stated:

    President Obama is asking that the Bush Tax Cuts be extended for those making under $250,000 a year for one year.

    Not quite right.

    Obama is not proposing that families making up to $250,000 a year keep their tax cuts while families making more than that don't. He's proposing that every family keep their tax cuts on their first $250,000 of taxable income (which is not the same as "income" or "earnings," by the way).

    That includes families with taxable income of $260,000, $1 million, $5 billion, $3 trillion, or whatever Jay-Z and Beyonce make in a year. Everyone would continue to pay a lower tax rate on their first $250,000 of taxable income under Obama's plan. To report that Obama only wants to maintain tax cuts for families making less than $250,000 is simply false.

    If you're wondering how literally the entire media could get this story wrong, look no further than Obama himself, who is framing his own tax proposal inaccurately. "I'm calling on Congress to extend the tax cuts for the 98 percent of Americans who make less than $250,000 for another year," he said in an East Room speech earlier this afternoon.

    The media is being its usual stenographic (5.00 / 2) (#3)
    by Anne on Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 05:24:12 PM EST
    self, failing to educate anyone who isn't familiar with how the tax brackets/code work, and thus enabling Obama to perpetuate the fiction that he is proposing something for taxpayers on one side of a taxable income line that he is denying to those on the other side.

    Shocking, I know.

    It's really a half-truth; he is proposing that the lower rates up to $250K be extended, and the rates above that go back to pre-2001 levels, but leaving out the part where everyone gets the benefit of the lower bracket up to the $250K level.

    One might be inclined to suspect that the over-paid members of the media aren't leaving out the "rest of the story" to help Obama, as much as they are to help themselves, staving off any backlash from average taxpayers who don't think anyone making over $250K should get any break on any of their taxable income.



    It's typical (none / 0) (#23)
    by jbindc on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 08:52:10 AM EST
    Whatever happened to fact-checking?

    I'm so, so tired of talking points and half truths - from both sides. Between the huge distortions both sides are telling about "outsourcing" and "offshoring", to the tax cut extension, to the healh "care" reform bill, to Hugo Chavez, to the battle over who's "lying" about the stimulus, to Ann Romney's horse and the supposed "huge" tax deduction, to Solyndra, etc.

    It's all so tiring.


    The exhausting part is digging to get (none / 0) (#24)
    by Anne on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 09:09:32 AM EST
    as much of the whole story as one can; not that one always has to dig particularly deep, but it's just that it's gotten to the point - for me - where I feel I have to check pretty much everything I care about to see whether it's true or only "truthy."

    Most people don't - or won't - take the time to check, still believing that if they said it on the news, it must be true.  Once you know it isn't, and the more you know about what's being left out or misrepresented, the harder it is to trust anything you hear or read.

    What really frosts my cupcakes is that the truthiness - in whichever direction it leans - serves an agenda - it's not just benign laziness that doesn't matter or make a difference.  We have only to look at the run-up to the Iraq war to see how the media's handling of information can drive an agenda, and while there have been a few apologies for their "shortcomings," I don't see that there were any lessons learned or behaviors changed by it.


    And the sad part is (none / 0) (#25)
    by jbindc on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 09:12:54 AM EST
    With the access to the internet and 24-hour cable news, more people are gravitating to those sites with which they agree politically, so if something is said on Bill or Rachel - it MUST be true.  If the National Review or DKOS writes it - it MUST be true.  So the problem exacerbates, because then the stories get repeated and taken as the truth by those who may have only a passing interest in it.

    It used to be that only politicians lied.  Now you can't believe anybody when it comes to politics.


    What is also being missed (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by BTAL on Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 06:28:48 PM EST
    is that only 6 months ago in the SOTU, Obama set the mark to maintain the under $250K rates permanently.  

    Why now is it only for one year?  Post election deficit reduction/shared sacrifice agenda?

    Inquiring minds and all that.


    That is the funny part of this (none / 0) (#10)
    by coast on Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 09:32:22 PM EST
    whole pitch.  He is only extending it for a year and people are acting like this is a big deal.

    Reading the transcript... (none / 0) (#19)
    by EL seattle on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 04:19:37 AM EST
    Obama seems to be saying that he want some parts of the Bush-era tax cuts extended now, before the election:

    So we should all agree to extend the tax cuts for the middle class. Let's agree to do what we agree on. Right? (Applause.) That's what compromise is all about. Let's not hold the vast majority of Americans and our entire economy hostage while we debate the merits of another tax cut for the wealthy. We can have that debate. (Applause.) We can have that debate, but let's not hold up working on the thing that we already agree on.

    But as his speech continues, Obama basically says that the extension of the other part of the Bush-era tax cuts can just wait until after the election, if Romney wins:

    In many ways, the fate of the tax cut for the wealthiest Americans will be decided by the outcome of the next election. My opponent will fight to keep them in place. I will fight to end them. But that argument shouldn't threaten you. It shouldn't threaten the 98 percent of Americans who just want to know that their taxes won't go up next year.

    I really don't see how any republican can be swayed to vote right now for something that seems a lot like a ploy to get votes for Obama. And I'm not sure whether Team Obama will be able to successfully present any failure of this semi-sorta-temporary-extension as some sort of moral failure on the part of the republicans. But I could be wrong about that.

    Link to transcript (from Dan Amira's NYMag story) here.


    not sure whether Team Obama (none / 0) (#32)
    by LeaNder on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 11:01:22 AM EST
    strictly from my very, very limited outsider perspective, I thought Obama or Team Obama did the right thing, occasionally, but was stopped by big outcries and regressed under the pressure of myths, or power, or whatever you would like to call it.

    I have always been very hesitant about Harper admittedly. But in this purely economical field, the first time ever, I wish he got his intelligence right. It  would be the proverbial silver lining (I acknowledged Anne does not like italics) especially since GB and it's London bankers occasionally feel like our Achilles heel. And there is the London - NY nexus, isn't there? I know I am babbling.

    Here a contributor from another US legal blog, with a look that provides a different perspective. Is it all about well established political myths after all: Mythologogy and the new feudalism, he made m choose myth above.

    It is no secret really that the middle class is the stable basis of the economy, at least over here. ... There was a brilliant article by an former Harvard prof that vented his frustration about all the systemically well adapted students that planned a career in the field of speculation.


    Hey, come on...it's not that I don't like (none / 0) (#33)
    by Anne on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 11:13:33 AM EST
    italics - I have actually been known to use them myself!  I jsut found one particular commenter's every-other-word application of various forms of emphasis distracting, that's all; reading that person's comments, I felt like I was reading lines for the Over-Actor's Studio... :-)

    anne (none / 0) (#41)
    by LeaNder on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 12:14:50 PM EST
    I understood you considering the specific comment. But basically, it feels it is capitalization. The visual scream.  Although I am always willing to learn about new developments. I also consider English an iconic or visual language. Thanks god the late 19th century English linguists were not allowed to make it more phonetically correct. It would have lost its iconic quality on the way. It would have looked horrible, I can assure you.

    the Iowa Court of Appeals (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by desmoinesdem on Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 05:14:13 PM EST
    vacated the mandatory life sentences of two Iowans who were convicted of murder for crimes committed at the age of 17. The cases will be sent back to district court for resentencing. "The Appeals Court rulings in both cases indicated that while a mandatory life sentence is not proper, that does not prevent the district court from imposing a life sentence in each case if the court rules it is appropriate."

    Several dozen more Iowans may be affected by last month's U.S. Supreme Court ruling on mandatory life sentences for juveniles.

    NOW endorses Obama (5.00 / 2) (#7)
    by AngryBlackGuy on Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 09:01:28 PM EST

    Nice explanation for those who think he's done nothing on the issues.

    The Advocate endorsed him, marking the first time in a number of cycles they have done so.

    People understand what's happened, thankfully.

    I'm shocked, SHOCKED! I tell ya (5.00 / 6) (#9)
    by nycstray on Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 09:16:17 PM EST
    I put all my eggs in one basket and thought NOW was def going to back Mittens . . .

    And (5.00 / 4) (#15)
    by lentinel on Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 11:21:19 PM EST
    now, the weather.

    NOW, (none / 0) (#20)
    by TeresaInPa on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 07:08:31 AM EST
    unfortunately, has become the women's auxiliary of the Democratic party.
    I am not sure why they feel they have to endorse anyone.  There are a lot of feminists on the right, still totally ignored by organizations such as NOW.

    Ignored and sometimes (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by BTAL on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 09:13:44 AM EST

    Who (5.00 / 5) (#31)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 10:17:36 AM EST
    are the feminists on the right?

    Feminists against bodily autonomy (none / 0) (#34)
    by Socraticsilence on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 11:41:44 AM EST
    I mean I'm with you I an see a small bit of wiggle room on this for economic feminists but not too much.

    this is typical (none / 0) (#73)
    by TeresaInPa on Fri Jul 13, 2012 at 05:15:52 AM EST
    sorry, but very typical of the narrow mindedness of the left.  There are more important issues to women than abortion.  We are more than a walking uterus believe it or not.  And there are plenty of pro-choice women on the right anyway.
    Can't believe we even have to discuss this in 2012.  

    Feminists on the Right (none / 0) (#71)
    by kmblue on Fri Jul 13, 2012 at 04:50:08 AM EST
    Feminists on the right can be recognized by their special cheer:

    "What do we want? NOTHING!
    When do we want it?  NOW!"


    I am talking (none / 0) (#72)
    by TeresaInPa on Fri Jul 13, 2012 at 05:10:20 AM EST
    in the general public.  If you don't know any, your social life is way too insular. Can I name some public feminists from the right?  Yup.  But I am not in the mood to be annoyed by silly assumptions that women must be liberal to be feminists.

    Seems to me that most of the so-called (5.00 / 4) (#75)
    by Anne on Fri Jul 13, 2012 at 09:13:37 AM EST
    feminists on the right live lives of significant hypocrisy: they are strong, independent, successful, work-outside-the-home women who use their strength,  independence and success to champion causes, legislation, policy and actions that serve to restrict the rights of other women to stand on equal footing with men.  They are doing their own thing, but that thing works against the interests of other women.

    Now, are there women in the private sector that are conservative and feminist?  There are women I would consider to be so, but who would bristle at being placed in that category.

    Which leads me to ask whether you know any conservative women who can even use the label with any pride?  Or is it like "liberal," becoming so demonized a term that a lot of people who would self-identify as feminist, based on their beliefs, won't use it?  Or would categorically deny they were one?

    My personal feeling is that if a woman cannot and does not champion the rights of all women to have the same rights and opportunities as men, or even the same rights and opportunities she has and takes advantage of, and if someone works to deny women those rights and opportunities, that person is not a feminist.  


    Theoretically (none / 0) (#74)
    by christinep on Fri Jul 13, 2012 at 07:41:34 AM EST
    You have a point, Teresa, in that feminism need not be based upon what party one is in nor whether the older liberal vs conservative is applicable.  I'm particularly mindful that matters of life-choice, the broader & important matters of how one spends one life are a central component.  Let's look at the workplace & the matters of opportunity, pay , etc.--see Lily Ledbetter legislation, e.g.--as a starter in the choices arena.

    Yes, feminism is more, so much more than one's belief about abortion.  And, it would illuminate this matter if we could all talk about the broader examples of feminism at an appropriate time.  In that spirit, it would be helpful to hear your suggestions about Republican or modern-day conservative women that would be regarded as feminists.  Personally, I believe the state of the Republican party thes days precludes the possibility of more than a handful for the reason that the climate there as to work & development would seem so hostle.  Yet, I am open and inviting of a specific focus there.


    You (none / 0) (#76)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jul 13, 2012 at 09:21:26 AM EST
    must have forgotten that I live in GA where there are almost no feminists and certainly zero feminists on the right. The only public feminist I can think of is Christie Todd Whitman.

    I got a job (5.00 / 10) (#44)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 01:02:29 PM EST
    Wanted to spread the word because I want to keep my job :)  I will be one of the writers for a new endeavor called the Weekly GOS.  It goes online for iPad as soon as the Apple App techie stuff is finished.  It will be a weekly roundup of Daily Kos current topics along with links to the really good diaries on all of it.  A weekly Cheers and Jeers from Bill in Portland Maine, Animal Nuz from Eric Lewis running on a one-week delay from his regular cartoon at Daily Kos and a back- page commentary from Jeff Lieber always included.  The first issue will be free and I will blab very loud when it is available.  I got to take a look at it in its current form this morning and the visuals are amazing.  Lots of good writing.  I have a boss though, I can't believe how excited I am to have someone be able to tell me how truly sucky I can sometimes be.  I've missed having a job outside the home so much, that I'm overly excited and needed a break to calm down.  Being overly excited makes writing a little challenging. It was suggested that we spread the word on Facebook, but why not Talkleft too.  I think it is perfect for those who dislike all the time it can require pouring over the constant stream at DailyKos.  It comes out on Saturdays when Apple is done.  My husband says I get to get "equipment"....I need suggestions.

    Will I be able to include this in my (5.00 / 1) (#47)
    by oculus on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 01:22:42 PM EST
    DK stream?  Just can't read all that is available there.  Am feeling guilty about not listening now!

    Don't feel guilty (5.00 / 1) (#49)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 01:45:11 PM EST
    I don't know that it will be available for the DK stream.  I will ask though.  There's so much media out there everyone must pick and choose what fits their needs and there is only so much time in the day for everything out there.  I will be writing though and rounding up the good information writing on specific issues that my boss tells me to.  How exciting!  Being responsible again for more than dinner and clean socks.

    Re DK radio my problem is hearing what (5.00 / 1) (#50)
    by oculus on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 01:52:16 PM EST
    is being transmitted.  When the techies perfect the feed, I'll probably listen.  

    I'm so excited about DK radio (none / 0) (#60)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 02:38:31 PM EST
    I have heard all these people via their fingers and now I'm getting to hear their vocal cord voices.  I don't listen all the time though, time doesn't always allow and if I miss it live I often don't get to the podcast until late at night.  But the day that I couldn't help but join the conversation I remember sitting there stunned to hear Bill from Portland Maine's voice voice.  I was slack jawed, silly.  My skype went down twice though.  I had newly updated it, and I think some of the software on my computer was clashing with it.  I still have a bit of a clash going on, skype seems like it is kind of invasive and my computer doesn't always like it.

    One of reasons they claim I must live with Rush Limbaugh on Armed Forces Radio I'm told is because he is free.  He fits their budget.  Soon we must lobby for other "Free" talk show hosts to be included too.  Rush is partisan, not allowing a liberal talk show on that is also free is making political statements.  Easily a legal issue.  I'll take it to the I.G...and then if I'm ignored or told to STFU....then it is a big big issue.


    This sounds like a great thing for (5.00 / 1) (#51)
    by caseyOR on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 02:02:18 PM EST
    you, MT. Kind of right up your alley. And I am guessing you can do this from home?

    Will this only be available for iPad or will there be a version for those of us semi-luddites who only have laptops?

    I almost never go to DKos, only an occasion dip to read BTD these days. It still seems like a cesspool to me, albeit one with some redeeming foliage.

    This venture, though, especially since you are involved, sounds not at all cesspoolly.


    My "stream" consists of Armando, (5.00 / 1) (#52)
    by oculus on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 02:04:15 PM EST
    the book posts, and SNLC.  Easy to manage.  

    They are starting with Apple (none / 0) (#61)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 02:42:03 PM EST
    After seeing the first issue though, I realized that there is some real and serious talent involved in publishing this.  The layout was great, images were eye popping.  I would think if we are successful other avenues of access will follow.  

    Your responsibilities are much, much (none / 0) (#53)
    by oculus on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 02:05:57 PM EST
    greater than you describe.

    Of course, I am very curious as to who is your boss on this new venture.  


    The editor is the (5.00 / 1) (#68)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 05:36:18 PM EST
    DailyKos member who goes by Mnemosyne, who I always assumed wrongly was female.  I find myself reluctant to use anyone's real name.  How funny huh?  I'm pretty sure he would not mind if I shared his name in real life at this point but I'm still reluctant to say.  I have to get used to all this.  I have the option of writing under my real name, or my handle.  I spoke to my family about it and they all think it is fine if I write under my real name.  If you wanted to know who I was you could probably figure it out.  And I had some stalker issues once a long time ago, and after that passed I sort of developed Markos' ideas and notions about blogging and stalkers and about letting harassers get to me.  I still haven't decided though yet, it would feel naked.  Sort of like going from a one piece to a bikini :)

    GOS? (5.00 / 1) (#57)
    by nycstray on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 02:29:03 PM EST
    i'm lost  . . . .

    Probably a 1% thing. iPad. (5.00 / 2) (#58)
    by oculus on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 02:31:54 PM EST
    I think it's like Kos on the Go (none / 0) (#62)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 02:43:48 PM EST
    Is it "GOS" as in "Gossip?" (5.00 / 1) (#59)
    by Anne on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 02:36:55 PM EST
    And is this an offshoot of DKos or an independent venture?  I think there are a lot of people who would like highlights-version of DKos - I just find that there's too much going on over there for me to be able to focus.

    Oh, and is it only going to be available as an IPad app?  And is this going to be a read-only kind of thing, or will people be able to comment?

    What kinds of things will you be writing?

    In any event, congratulations on the new gig - very excited for you - I'm sure you'll be running the place in about a week!


    Good question about commenting (none / 0) (#63)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 02:52:28 PM EST
    I don't know yet.  Only with Apple at this time.  There will be videos in the issues.  You can purchase it weekly on Saturdays and it will be $2.99 a week or $12.99 for the month.  So you can purchase only issues of your choice.  If our writing is great, then we will all do well....and if it isn't so great, well then

    I love how incentive based it is.  That is exactly how I have always produced my best is with that big carrot out there.  I would be a lousy soldier.  All the same carrots all the time given at their allotted time, I just fell asleep thinking about it.


    You keep saying "only with Apple . . ." (none / 0) (#66)
    by nycstray on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 03:47:07 PM EST
    any Mac OS, or only on the iPad?

    If only on the iPad, seems a tad exclusive, especially for an incentive based project . . .


    I know that Bionic (none / 0) (#67)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 05:26:16 PM EST
    creates mobile apps, so I'm going to assume that Apple is the start and she will take it other places after that.

    "Bionic" at Daily Kos is the publisher (none / 0) (#64)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 02:53:55 PM EST
    First's one free? (5.00 / 3) (#65)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 03:03:54 PM EST

    I am... (5.00 / 2) (#69)
    by DebFrmHell on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 06:37:46 PM EST
    excited and thrilled for you!!!!!

    Now.  Get to typing.  Pull up those boot straps.  Get that nose to the grindstone.  Do it while walking in the snow... for five miles...to work...all up hill!  Mixed metaphors!  YAY!


    I was thinking (none / 0) (#5)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 08:09:11 PM EST
    about Captain Howdy today and wondering what he's been up to. I guess he'll be back once the weather gets cooler or closer to the election.

    I miss him... (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by kdog on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 08:20:12 AM EST
    having too much fun in retirement is my guess, sure hope we are graced with his degenerate brand of commentary again.

    Not to mention all the off-the-wall linkage. (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by oculus on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 01:17:46 PM EST
    He did find the weird sh*t... (5.00 / 2) (#48)
    by kdog on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 01:28:51 PM EST
    didn't he? I sometimes wondered if his brain had a USB port.

    Now here's a nice story. (none / 0) (#6)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 08:53:18 PM EST
    Singer Helen Reddy is coming out of retirement to sing in two concerts for the benefit of St. Genevieve's High School in L.A.'s San Fernando Valley this weekend. The school is in danger of losing its prestigious arts programs because of continuing budget pressures, and its principal happens to be Reddy's personal friend.

    Saw just recently (none / 0) (#13)
    by brodie on Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 10:29:20 PM EST
    a YT interview with her from her modest highrise apt in Sidney I think.  She'd left her singing career behind, gave away a lot of music memorabilia connected with it, and was living very frugally off a state pension and part time work as a personal therapist or something.

    Not having seen her since her glory days of the seventies when she was in her physical prime, it was a bit of a shock to fast forward forty years and see the aging process kick in.

    I liked her version of I Don't Know How to Love Him.  Strong clear straightforward voice without affectation.  I Am Woman was easily one of the most played songs on the radio of the decade.


    I was way too cool (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by TeresaInPa on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 07:11:12 AM EST
    for Helen in the 70s.  Thinking back I appreciate her much more now.

    Bravo!! Mr. O'Toole... (none / 0) (#8)
    by desertswine on Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 09:15:10 PM EST
    Peter O'Toole retires.

    "Dear All, It is time for me to chuck in the sponge. To retire from films and stage. The heart for it has gone out of me: it won't come back.

    "I'm not an actor - I'm a movie star!" (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 09:56:43 PM EST
    I loved Peter O'Toole as the washed-up matinee idol Alan Swann in "My Favorite Year." That film made me laugh my a$$ off as a 21-year-old college junior, and it's still one of my guilty pleasures 30 years later.

    Check. A delightful (none / 0) (#12)
    by brodie on Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 10:18:14 PM EST
    small film involving the pressures of putting on a live tv comedy show back in the fifties. Based on Sid Ceasar's Your Show of Shows program, supposedly.  Don't know the names of the two young m & f characters, but they were great.  And O'Toole showed he could do comedy.

    A satire on the English aristocracy he starred in from the early 70s is also a quirky hoot -- The Ruling Class.  Highly recommended.

    David Lean wanted him as the lead in Dr Zhivago but he'd been so burnt out apparently from the grueling shoot with Lean on Lawrence that he turned him down.


    Maybe Helen Reddy wasn't available? (none / 0) (#14)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 10:45:39 PM EST
    The University of Hawaii has placed athletic director Jim Donovan on an indefinite leave of absence, as the university and FBI officials investigate how an already-announced Aug. 18 Stevie Wonder concert at the school's Sheriff Center Arena -- which was supposedly to benefit the UH athletic department -- could have possibly been "scheduled" without either the singer or his management ever even knowing about it. $200,000 in athletic department funds is reported to be missing.

    Jack Abramoff will tell us (none / 0) (#16)
    by oculus on Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 11:47:21 PM EST
    how politics should be reformed:  NYT

    Woo hoo. (none / 0) (#17)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 12:28:42 AM EST
    I can hardly wait to tune in to "The Jack Abramoff Show." Maybe he'll go head-to-head with your former mayor, Roger Hedgecock. At least they'll have something in common with one another -- they're both corrupt as hell.

    The California Supreme (none / 0) (#18)
    by oculus on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 12:49:31 AM EST
    Court mostly vindicated Mr. Hedgecock.

    Class Warfare!!! (none / 0) (#27)
    by kdog on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 09:16:32 AM EST
    All is not quiet on the east end front in the class war...it's the millionaires vs. the billionaires...ding ding ding!

    Obama or Romney need to get on this, they're in the area often enough begging for money...maybe a caviar summit? ;)

    You Can't Start... (none / 0) (#35)
    by ScottW714 on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 11:43:17 AM EST
    ...start a revolution without the upper class, history has said.

    Obviously... (none / 0) (#37)
    by kdog on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 11:55:45 AM EST
    its just petty jealousy and envy on the part of the millionaire set, they just need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and buy helicopters;)

    I think (5.00 / 2) (#38)
    by jbindc on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 12:01:05 PM EST
    there's a reality show in there somewhere.  :)

    Just Another Case... (none / 0) (#40)
    by ScottW714 on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 12:07:05 PM EST
    ...of the haves and havenots.

    Have no fear... (none / 0) (#46)
    by kdog on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 01:21:49 PM EST
    once Obama stops holding whitey down, there will surely be a helipad in every east end driveway under Romney, though they're may be an increased risk of being shot down over the ghetto 'burbs, so my neighbors can sell the chopper wreckage for scrap to eat in a Romney economy;)

    Um....o-kay (none / 0) (#28)
    by jbindc on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 09:43:05 AM EST
    A Michigan woman has filed a motion in Florida claiming that Casey Anthony has repeatedly violated her probation.


    With no facts to back up her claim, VonHatten falsely alleges Anthony had violated several terms of her probation for check fraud, accusing the woman of cavorting with felons, lying about having her computer hacked and wasting taxpayer money because she's unemployed.

    "Well, some of those things I really don't know...maybe I should've left that out," VonHatten said about her allegations. "There is no basis in fact. But I believe they are true."

    I didn't know... (5.00 / 2) (#29)
    by kdog on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 09:45:36 AM EST
    Nancy Grace was auditioning co-hosts.;)

    She already has (none / 0) (#30)
    by jbindc on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 10:02:31 AM EST
    Jane Velez-Mitchell.



    No evidence of racism (none / 0) (#36)
    by jbindc on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 11:44:51 AM EST
    The Freeh Report on Penn State's (none / 0) (#39)
    by Anne on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 12:04:10 PM EST
    handling of the Sandusky matter is up, and can be found here.  It's a pdf.

    Report is long - 267 pages.

    Louis Freeh, as quoted in the NYT:

    Our most saddening and sobering finding is the total disregard for the safety and welfare of Sandusky's child victims," said Louis J. Freeh, the former federal judge and director of the F.B.I. who oversaw the investigation. "The most powerful men at Penn State failed to take any steps for 14 years to protect the children who Sandusky victimized."

    Maybe Jeralyn will post on the report.

    It's Scathing... (none / 0) (#43)
    by ScottW714 on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 12:22:03 PM EST
    ...to say the least.

    Still wondering if the NCAA is going to do anything.

    These individuals, unchecked by the Board of Trustees that did not perform its oversight duties, empowered Sandusky to attract potential victims to the campus and football events by allowing him to have continued, unrestricted and unsupervised access to the University's facilities and affiliation with the University's prominent football program. Indeed, that continued access provided Sandusky with the very currency that enabled him to attract his victims. Some coaches, administrators and football program staff members ignored the red flags of Sandusky's behaviors and no one warned the  public about him.

    In critical written correspondence that we uncovered on March 20th of this year, we see evidence of their proposed plan of action in February 2001 that included reporting allegations about Sandusky to the authorities. After Mr. Curley consulted with Mr. Paterno, however, they changed the plan and decided not to make a report to the authorities. Their failure to protect the February 9, 2001 child victim, or make attempts to identify him, created a dangerous situation for other unknown, unsuspecting young boys who were lured to the Penn State campus and football games by Sandusky and victimized repeatedly by him.

    ALL the new George Zimmerman... (none / 0) (#42)
    by heidelja on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 12:18:33 PM EST
    ...discovery here according to the straight faced newscaster on Orlando Brighthouse Channel 13 at noon today.

    Unions (none / 0) (#54)
    by jbindc on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 02:10:00 PM EST
    Are diverting money from the Democratic convention to rally for workers' rights.

    The unions assure everyone that they still support Obama, but are very displeased with convention planners and think they have been ignored by the party.

    Look no further than the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers to measure the price that Democrats are paying for the decision to hold their national convention in union-hostile territory.

    Traditionally a generous supporter of Democratic conventions, IBEW contributed $1 million to fund the festivities in Denver in 2008. This year, it will instead be writing a seven-figure check for a "Workers Stand for America" rally in Philadelphia on Aug. 11.

    The rally, financed in part by money from IBEW and other unions that would otherwise be going toward the Sept. 3 convention in Charlotte, will showcase a  "second bill of rights" intended to refocus attention on middle-class concerns--jobs, living wages, energy, and educational opportunity. The entire initiative will be announced at a Thursday afternoon press conference with IBEW President Ed Hill and AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka.

    It's a big block of support that ispart of the reason the Dems are hurting in their convention fundraising this year.

    Democrats' struggles to raise money for their Charlotte soiree have been widely publicized. Bloomberg News reported in late June that Democrats have only managed to lock in less than $10 million of their stated $36.6 million goal. Perhaps the shortfall is not all too surprising when you consider that unions put up $8 million for the convention in Denver.

    Why are you so negative? [snk.] (5.00 / 1) (#55)
    by oculus on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 02:11:51 PM EST
    Because (none / 0) (#56)
    by jbindc on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 02:20:49 PM EST
    I'm a closet Romney supporter - didn't you know?  <snark>

    I was a Romney supporter until (5.00 / 1) (#70)
    by observed on Thu Jul 12, 2012 at 10:12:30 PM EST
    1999...or was it 2002?
    At one of those times, I retired from, or ceased taking an active role in supporting Romney.
    Let me check my records.