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    Engineering Student Shows How to Easily... (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by ScottW714 on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 02:03:59 PM EST
    ...get metal objects though TSA scanners.

    Unbelievable !!!!

    LINK w/ video

    I need to get ROCKED (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by Dadler on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 02:25:27 PM EST
    Santana, not Santanta. (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by Dadler on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 02:25:55 PM EST
    Heresy. Dork.

    And the best opening act... (5.00 / 2) (#13)
    by Dadler on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 02:36:20 PM EST
    Best never-happen-today-story (5.00 / 2) (#28)
    by jondee on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 04:09:57 PM EST
    I heard about Woodstock: Alvin Lee said he was given the assignment of wading into the crowd to find cigs for everyone backstage -- said he never found any, but came back with twelve joints!

    I love that story! (5.00 / 2) (#33)
    by shoephone on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 05:44:51 PM EST
    Good call... (5.00 / 1) (#31)
    by kdog on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 04:59:15 PM EST
    been far too long since I listened to some Santana.

    I got Abraxas on vinyl...threw it on the second I walked in the door.  

    Samba pa ti amigos...pure soul out your speakers.


    Far out! (5.00 / 2) (#34)
    by Edger on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 05:48:43 PM EST
    I didn't go where kites go (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 05:54:12 PM EST
    I saw the devil

    Carlos said later he was on mescaline (5.00 / 1) (#47)
    by Dadler on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 07:32:37 PM EST
    And that the neck of his guitar felt like a snake wrapping around his arm as he played.

    Oh yeah (5.00 / 1) (#48)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 07:46:47 PM EST
    Running and screaming while waving my arm around :)

    Edger you don't (5.00 / 2) (#10)
    by fishcamp on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 02:32:11 PM EST
    want to get on the terrorist list because you never, ever get off of it.  Two friends were mistakenly placed on that list and the Feds will not tell them why they are on it.  One guy is a family man and a doctor from Oregon and was continually hassled until he finally received a "call this telephone number" card from the FBI that he has to present every time he attempts to fly.  Also remember that seven year old boy who was mistakenly placed on the terrorist list?  I think he is still on it.

    I don't even try (none / 0) (#22)
    by Edger on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 03:09:51 PM EST
    to cross the border since 9/11, fishcamp, and I have no reason or plans to in future, unless of course a viral outbreak of incurable reason ever erupts and spreads across the country like a scouring tsunami - and I'm not holding my breath for that, you know? ;-)

    Sounds horrible (none / 0) (#36)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 05:53:32 PM EST
    Postville prosecutor up for federal judgeship (5.00 / 1) (#30)
    by desmoinesdem on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 04:21:17 PM EST
    Stephanie Rose is currently U.S. attorney for Iowa's northern district. She was an assistant in that office at the time of the 2008 Postville raid and prosecutions. Senator Tom Harkin put her on a short list for an upcoming vacant federal judgeship in Iowa's southern district, and President Obama nominated her. A Florida professor who served as an interpreter during many of the Postville prosecutions argued this week for more scrutiny of her before a Senate confirmation vote.

    Jesus Christ it makes me tired (5.00 / 3) (#46)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 07:25:16 PM EST
    One of my liberal guy friends posted today on facebook that he didn't understand why he was supposed to pay for my birth control so that I can have free sex.  But he agreed that it wasn't okay to call people names.  What a firestorm after that.  Ended when a dude who does something in the medical field explained to him a few things and said that the few pennies we pay in birth control pill "tax" far outweighs the benefit all women receive from it.  And I learned that you can get a basic BC pill from Walmart for $4.00, but not what I take....that one is very expensive of course.

    Then one of our friends responds that pills are not an option for her but she has been able to make a go of it with the "ring".  It costs her a lot though even with an insurance kick in.  I feel awful for her.  I tell her that sex is a basic human need and I will pay for birth control, just charge me.  I finish with the fact that my husband goes off to fight the Taliban here and there and they wouldn't pay for any woman's birth control either and they would call her a slut and a prostitute too and I have no desire to emulate anything they do to women..........and then finally some people get it.

    It's so phucking sad though, and it makes me so tired inside.

    Ugh (5.00 / 1) (#63)
    by lilburro on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 11:32:28 AM EST
    just reading that stressed me out!  Your point about the Taliban is a good one.  Maybe you'll appreciate this article from Time.

    Thank you so so so so so much (none / 0) (#101)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 07:45:22 PM EST
    I had to go to Pensacola today to polish up Josh's new braces.  They pad everything rubbing...all that stuff.  And I'm getting ready for Josh's halo traction again, and they are more organized this go around.  But I also need to go to Atlanta probably this weekend because they measure him for a vest system they will make so that he can wear his halo traction around, and come home when he's stable and maybe even go to school toward the end of the year.

    At the same time I also need to help angelajean at DailyKos on this road with AFN and Rush Limbaugh being slotted for AFN-Europe and having a captive audience of tax payer funded deployed soldiers just wanting to hear something in their own tongue far from home.

    We are told that the administration wants AFN to drop Rush of their own volition....come to that conclusion "organically".  This is excruciating for some of us who are female and military affiliated.  Driving home tonight I was trying to make a game plan, to get in that frame of mind I need to write what I need to write to AFN-Europe and command.....and to share with others so that they can organically help us.

    This helps me a lot to get there in the midst of all these other mindsets I must hang out in too.  Thank you so much.  You have no idea how wonderful this is for me tonight, and so easy!  It's fresh...current...I will be writing tomorrow, thank you!


    Your writing on this subject (none / 0) (#107)
    by lilburro on Sat Mar 10, 2012 at 01:16:15 AM EST
    is always fantastic.  I'm sure your post at DK will be great.  You have a unique talent for cutting through the BS.  I can't believe the time I've spent this week reading articles about women's health in response to insufferable comments by people who clearly don't care about women's health and who apparently might not be able to tell a woman apart from a cardboard box.  In the dark or in broad daylight.  

    One of my favorite Bible verses is 1 Peter 3:15

    "But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect,"

    it made a big impression on me when I was young and it still does today.  It's applicable to any kind of activism, having an answer ready is important, and they're not ready-made because our society is kind to vile people who hate women and vile to those who fight those people.  We have to go to court every time; there's never a plea bargain and they never establish a precedent.  The gentleness and respect part is probably optional, certainly if Rush and the GOP in general are to be the judge.  

    You might also enjoy this article which beyond addressing the issues at hand says

    Incidentally, this whole sh*tbag kerfuffle reminds me yet again why Southern liberals and feminists are the best liberals and feminists in the nation: because they're actually still fighting the fight many of us elitist Yankees feel we won years ago. A lot of the rest of us grew up soft, but these Southern feminists are tough as nails and ready to kick some serious ass. My cowgirl hat is off to them.

    I think that is a bit unfair to the fabulous Yankee feminists out there but then again having lived in the South now for 4 years, I'm also prone to agree ;)



    I have to share ... (5.00 / 1) (#51)
    by desertswine on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 11:47:01 PM EST
    this uncannily renaissance photo of the odious santorum. But the picture is interesting not because of santorum but because of the people behind him. Photo is on Bagnews Notes.

    Thanks! (none / 0) (#72)
    by gyrfalcon on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 12:21:50 PM EST
    That's a terrific picture.

    Evidence of child abuse? (none / 0) (#106)
    by kdog on Fri Mar 09, 2012 at 03:04:01 PM EST
    Who would force their kid to sit through that mess...thats just wrong.  At least some had the sense to take a nap.

    Three of Osama Bin Laden's (5.00 / 1) (#58)
    by CST on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 10:17:48 AM EST
    Widows have been charged in Pakistan with entering the country illegally.

    The maximum sentance is 5 years in prison.

    My initial reaction is that Pakistan is trying to cover their @sses with this by saying "we didn't let them in".

    This is horrible (5.00 / 1) (#102)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 07:47:01 PM EST
    Agree with you fully on your assessment too, and by placing them in prison they can't share things they may know that Pakistan doesn't want anyone else to know.  How horrible!

    This is just wrong... (5.00 / 1) (#59)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 10:50:24 AM EST
    where do we expect homeless people to make love?  Link

    Warning...do not read the comments, CST you nailed it when you said newspaper comment boards are the refuge of the real winners...oh lord!

    Have you ever read (5.00 / 1) (#61)
    by Zorba on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 11:26:38 AM EST
    the comments on Yahoo News?  I won't read them any more- too many really nasty comments.

    I generally don't... (5.00 / 1) (#64)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 11:35:51 AM EST
    I just happened to scroll down on that link...I feel sorry for such people, what horrible lives they must have.

    I always want to say to them (5.00 / 1) (#69)
    by Zorba on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 12:04:43 PM EST
    "Does your mother know you're writing stuff like this?"   ;-)
    Of course, a lot of it is the anonymity of the Web.  Add to that un-moderated comment sections and comment sections with few or no commenting policies (or policies that are never enforced), and that's what you get.  I do wonder how many of them would say these things face-to-face with someone.  

    It's really ugly out there (5.00 / 1) (#70)
    by CST on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 12:07:58 PM EST
    btw "Does your mother know about this?" is my go-to line if I ever get mugged, as I hand over all of my money.

    Seems equally appropriate for online comments.


    Cannot recommend this tactic. My (none / 0) (#82)
    by oculus on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 02:17:11 PM EST
    very good friend to the mother (no present) of the guys who were heckling us at Qualcomm.  I thought they might just toss her over the rail.  

    I can't really recommend (5.00 / 1) (#84)
    by Zorba on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 02:25:55 PM EST
    This tactic, either.  (Tempting as it might seem to some people, I suppose.)    

    How about those TX girl scouts, eh? (none / 0) (#87)
    by oculus on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 02:47:17 PM EST
    I take it that (5.00 / 1) (#90)
    by Zorba on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 03:03:27 PM EST
    you're referring to this.  While I can certainly admire the righteous indignation and bravery of the girls, all I can say is, if they were my daughters, I'd have some serious words for them about what is fool-hardy and what is not.  They could have been killed.  
    OTOH, I have to admit that I could see myself doing something like this at that age.  Not that this means I condone it.   ;-)

    Seems to me (IMHO), usually law (none / 0) (#95)
    by oculus on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 03:28:13 PM EST
    enforcement cautions others not to do as these girls did.  

    They do, (none / 0) (#99)
    by Zorba on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 03:35:49 PM EST
    And for a very good reason.

    "referenced the mother" (none / 0) (#83)
    by oculus on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 02:18:57 PM EST
    but was she giving them all her money? (none / 0) (#89)
    by CST on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 03:00:29 PM EST
    I'm kidding.  It came up because a friend of mine in college said he'd be afraid of mugging me.  Which is obsurd since I'm not the least bit tough.  So I joked that the worst that would happen is I'd give him all my money and a lecture.

    The closest I've ever come to a mugging is when I was on the phone with someone in another city as they were being robbed.  It was the scariest $hit I've ever listened to and it would probably never occur to me to say anything at that point.


    CST, you must have (none / 0) (#91)
    by Zorba on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 03:12:31 PM EST
    unplumbed depths of ferocity, recognized only by others.   ;-)

    No. She didn't appreciate their (none / 0) (#96)
    by oculus on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 03:29:35 PM EST
    mouthiness and they didn't appreciate her referenced to their absent mothers.  

    Even in mild-mannered crunchy (none / 0) (#73)
    by gyrfalcon on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 12:25:57 PM EST
    Vermont, the comments sections on Newspaper and TV Web sites are a cesspool.

    Oops... (none / 0) (#60)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 10:52:42 AM EST
    tv station comment board here, but the point stands...all that hate inside gonna burn you up people!

    Carry Anything Through TSA Nude Body Scanners (none / 0) (#1)
    by Edger on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 12:56:12 PM EST
    Engineer Jonathan Corbett, who runs the blog TSA Out of Our Pants, published a video on Tuesday showing how he had snuck a small metal case through TSA airport body scanners.

    I bought a sewing kit from the dollar store, broke out my 8th grade home ec skills, and sewed a pocket directly on the side of a shirt. Then I took a random metallic object, in this case a heavy metal carrying case that would easily alarm any of the `old' metal detectors, and walked through a backscatter x-ray at Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport."
    "With a bigger pocket, perhaps sewn on the inside of the shirt, even a firearm could get through."
    "Now, I'm sure the TSA will accuse me of aiding the terrorists by releasing this video, but it's beyond belief that the terrorists haven't already figured this out and are already plotting to use this against us," he opined in his Tuesday video. "The TSA is worse than ineffective: they are an epic fail placing us all in danger.

    --Video at RawStory

    TSA's budget is apparently over $8 Billion annually. They have spent approximately $1 Billion so far on these scanners, it seems...

    Aiding our "enemies"... (none / 0) (#2)
    by kdog on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 01:30:43 PM EST
    nah, get that man a medal of freedom!  Thats a big flaw in our security theater, though the thought of what might be coming as a "fix" only makes me feel less safe;)  Body scan and old fashioned metal detector and arrive 6 hours before your flight perhaps?  Cut to the chase and full manual strip searches for everybody, up to and including anal cavity?  

    I got a lil' something something through a body scanner or whatever type of machine they were using at Vegas airport back in 2006...when I got busted out of the WSOP I decided to fly home early before I went uber-flat broke, and I had far too much smoke left to part with it...Laguardia wasn't using any scanners then so I figured it would be no issue, same deal as the flight there...then I saw this new-fangled machine people were walking through and started sweating bullets, looked like the body scanner...anyway it was too late to turn back, so I went for it.  They found a lighter in my carry-on and seized that, but not the herbs keepin' my junk company.  


    Junk should never be lonely. (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 01:51:56 PM EST
    Not the company... (none / 0) (#4)
    by kdog on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 02:03:03 PM EST
    I'd had in mind or prefer...but tyranny makes strange bedfellows my friend;)

    Is Elway gonna make a go of signing Peyton? Not too many talking about Denver but I think it makes a lot of sense...great defense, sign a receiver with him and if he's got anything left your instant Super Bowl contenders.  


    Just Glad He's Leaving... (none / 0) (#7)
    by ScottW714 on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 02:22:51 PM EST
    ...the AFC South.

    Miami seems to the leading contender, which would make for come great games in the division.  There is a serious lack of good solid quartbacks right now.

    Still cannot believe he's leaving the Colts, looks like the want to be at the pre-Manning caliber once again.


    I don't know why... (none / 0) (#12)
    by kdog on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 02:36:02 PM EST
    he'd pick Miami unless he wants to work on his tan...missing too many other pieces.

    I'm torn about my Jets signing him...too much cap space would be tied up in two QB's and if we dump Sanchez and Peyton gets hurt or has lost it???  I'm down with giving Sanchez one more year to improve his game before looking elsewhere.  OTOH if he is healthy and has 2-3 years in him it's hard to say no to some of that action.

    Wonder if there is a shot he resigns with the Colts at a hometeam discount and grooms Luck for two years...it is hard to imagine him in another uniform.  


    Shades of Brett Favre. (5.00 / 1) (#38)
    by caseyOR on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 06:04:07 PM EST
    The last time the Jets brought in an aging QB who was unwanted by his old team, it didn't really work out for them, did it?

    Given the type of injury Peyton has suffered, I would be wary of bringing him in. It would be so easy for the neck injury to flare up again, or, god forbid, for something even more debilitating to happen to him.


    No Way... (none / 0) (#17)
    by ScottW714 on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 02:44:47 PM EST
    ...he's a ball player through and through and he'll be out there at league minimum before he hangs it up IMO.

    He'll put fans in the stands, so someone is going to pay hansomely.  I hope he's got a lot of football left in him.


    With the kinds of problems the (none / 0) (#26)
    by Anne on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 03:46:21 PM EST
    Jets have in their locker room - problems I don't think are over - I don't see Manning as being all that interested in going there.

    In addition, I'm sure he wants to go somewhere where he can start, not serve as someone's incentive to play better, which is how Rex Ryan might want to use Manning.

    And if he wants to start, I think you have to be a team that is really just that desperate for a QB that they would take the risk with an older QB with proven health issues and no guarantee that the first time he takes a hit, he isn't done.  Which makes the Redskins sound like they'll be eager suitors.

    If I were Manning, I'd want the chance to prove I could still do my thing, but it may well be that when the emotion of what he's going through has settled down, he may decide that if what he really wanted was to retire as a Colt, he should retire.

    It was a classy presser on both Manning's and Irsay's parts; I'm no fan of the Irsay family, but Jim handled the presser well, and Manning - well, it was all he could do to get through his remarks without blubbering like a baby.  

    I wish him well, but I'm not sure this is going to turn out as well for him as he'd like.


    There's the Rub (none / 0) (#54)
    by ScottW714 on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 08:42:56 AM EST
    All the teams that have the ability to go all the way don't need a QB, so Manning is going to have to help build, which seems unrealistic considering he has maybe 4 years, more realistically 3.

    He flew to Miami to work out with Wayne, both of which Miami wants.  Not sure if they are there for that purpose, bur seems a little suspicious.

    Manning/Wayne in Miami would be a force one would think.


    Like I said... (none / 0) (#27)
    by kdog on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 03:53:28 PM EST
    I'd give him one more year to prove himself...you're supposed to step it up a notch in Year 3 but he regressed.  I can't say if he is the long-term QB we had hoped he'd be...I mean lets face it, Sanchez showed moxie but our defense and running game were the reasons we went to those two AFC Championship games.

    And if you can win one Super Bowl by mortgaging the future it is worth it...hence I'm torn.  


    It would be worth it... (none / 0) (#11)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 02:34:50 PM EST
    ...just to see all the brains of all the Tebow faithful leak out of their earholes.  

    I'd kind of like to see him in Seattle--if he has anything left in him.


    Allen's checkbook is wide open... (none / 0) (#14)
    by kdog on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 02:38:31 PM EST
    but they're in the same boat as Miami...not close enough to being a real-deal contender.

    I just thought it would be a great way out of the Tebow Quandary for Elway;)


    you could certainly make the case (none / 0) (#16)
    by CST on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 02:43:37 PM EST
    that so was Indy without Manning.

    Sounds like they'll at take a look... (none / 0) (#18)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 02:53:40 PM EST
    But the Broncos are expected to place a phone call to Manning's agent, Tom Condon, to gauge their chances, according to an NFL source close to the situation. If Manning's contract can be structured so that the team would be protected in case Manning's troublesome neck becomes an issue, the Broncos could well be players.


    The fan polls on the local TV station have been running about 52/48 for bringing him in.  Kind of surprising since like 80% think Tebow is a sure fire HOF'er, not to mention the second coming of JC himself.


    I Think Anyone Going into Denver (none / 0) (#20)
    by ScottW714 on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 03:00:02 PM EST
    ..is going to have to deal with the jesus brigade, and even if they're on their side, and they may not be, who wants to deal with that ?

    Make everybody happy... (none / 0) (#23)
    by kdog on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 03:13:12 PM EST
    and design the Double Barrel Shotgun Offense...Peyton & Timmy as the two backs in a two-back shotgun set with Peyton calling the plays at the line, with the center having the option to snap to either player.

    Peyton calling the plays? (none / 0) (#40)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 06:10:02 PM EST
    Why that's taking away Timmay's God given First Amendment rights because of his religion!!11!  

    Tebow persecution!  


    His record (none / 0) (#15)
    by CoralGables on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 02:41:42 PM EST
    outside in December and January is less than desirable for his career. He'll want a dome or warm weather. And it has to be a team like the Jets, that want the attention for signing the big name that may never play well again, but the Jets lack both the dome and/or warm weather.

    The owner in Miami loves to rub shoulders with stars. Expect him to offer to overpay to try and get him and set the franchise back once again.


    "He'll want a dome or warm weather" (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 02:56:32 PM EST
    You can take the boy out of the SEC, but you can't take the SEC out of the boy?

    I can see that you've never been in Knoxille (none / 0) (#29)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 04:17:26 PM EST
    in November... or Lexington.... or Tuscaloosa

    Sat in the Vol student section for 10 years of (none / 0) (#32)
    by the capstan on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 05:32:47 PM EST
    home games, including 2 blizzards, back in the 50's.  (Student, 4 years; PHT--pushing hubby thru--6 years.)

    You see, kdog... (none / 0) (#21)
    by Edger on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 03:04:36 PM EST
    You wouldn't have had to go through all that trouble, after all. You could have just stuffed it into your shoulder holster under your arm with your heater instead. You would have sailed though with no sweat, and you could be a youtube star yourself by now. ;-)

    Sorry, Didn't Reload. (none / 0) (#6)
    by ScottW714 on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 02:04:36 PM EST

    Dear Friends and fellow Feminazis (none / 0) (#35)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 05:51:37 PM EST
    It is Wednesday, The Middle is coming on.  In the past it has been a family show we all watched but I informed my family about what Patricia Heaton did.  They agree she is heinous and literally the worst woman in the world next to Michelle Bachman (my husband said this).  They also say to not watch is to punish the other excellent actors, and is throwing babies out with bathwater.  What say you?

    P.S. my husband wants to know why I can call myself a Feminazi on TalkLeft and it's okay, but if he calls me one he is in huge trouble?

    I think what you will find is that (5.00 / 2) (#39)
    by Anne on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 06:09:38 PM EST
    your feelings about Heaton-the-actress will bleed through into her role, and there is nothing she will say or do that will make you laugh.

    Which will pretty much kill the whole point of watching.

    As to the use of "Feminazi," it's just different when you use it about yourself than it is when anyone else uses it about you, to your face.  You know what your agenda is, but someone else wielding that word?  Could be a deliberate effort to provoke, or anger or just piss you off.

    Not saying that's why your husband uses it... :-)


    Try it and see (5.00 / 3) (#43)
    by shoephone on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 07:03:43 PM EST
    I can't stand either Hateful Heaton or anything about that show, but here's my dilemma:

    Jim Caviezel is in a new show this season, Person of Interest, that I've liked (though I've mostly liked it because of the other character, played by the weirdo guy from LOST). Caviezel is a reactionary right-wing Catholic zealot who not only made a heinous ad with Heaton against Michael J. Fox and stem cell research, but he is a HUGE supporter of Santorum! It doesn't get much creepier than that, IMO.

    But...I kinda dig the show. Hence, the dilemma...


    I watch person of Interest. (5.00 / 1) (#50)
    by caseyOR on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 11:06:14 PM EST
    Not to see Caveziel, but because of Michael Emerson (weird guy from Lost) and Taraji P.Henson, who plays Det.Carter. Emerson and Henson are great.

    The thing that really gets me about Heaton is that she has, for years, proclaimed herself a feminist, an anti-abortion feminist. And yet she persists in exhibiting all the woman-hating attitudes of the Catholic Church.

    I cannot watch her. I am unable to separate the real-life despicable Heaton from her TV characters.


    Yes, her comment to Fluke was astonishing (5.00 / 1) (#104)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Mar 09, 2012 at 10:25:45 AM EST
    Something about "Hey, G-town gal, how about only having sex on Wednesdays since it is humpday?"  I don't know how this would make birth control any cheaper either.  Apparently Heaton is like Limbaugh and has no idea how birth control works, one pill a day every day whether you have sex or not.  And if you have sex seven times in one day it is still one pill for that day.

    I've never known feminists to be so afraid of their own orgasms and the orgasms of other women either that they felt they needed to happen only on designated once a week days.  I even thought that when feminists went on vacation it was okay for us to do nothing but have sex and eat for a whole day if we wanted to.  If it hasn't been that way, I've been way out of line!


    I really wish (5.00 / 1) (#105)
    by CST on Fri Mar 09, 2012 at 01:36:10 PM EST
    someone in public health (like Sebelius) would stand up and say that - because I think it's a huge issue that major figures in media have no clue how birth control really works.  It's just bad public health information.  When you compare that to the studies they've shown on teenage pregnancy that show vast misconceptions about how birth control works, I think it's clear that we need better sex ed.

    I'm pretty horrified by the fact that all of these adults have no clue, and they are spouting this nonsense in public where someone might hear them and believe it.


    Are you able to watch Tebow? (none / 0) (#53)
    by oculus on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 08:10:56 AM EST
    Him too? (none / 0) (#44)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 07:15:41 PM EST
    I like him too.  I have not watched Person of Interest but we all love him in The Count Monte Cristo.  We bought the new version.  I recognized him in The Passion of Christ, but I hoped...sort of stupid to hope considering that flick.....but I hoped he wasn't a crazy :(  I have no dilemma solution outside of..........caveats?

    ...or a couple of martinis before showtime... (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by shoephone on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 07:23:30 PM EST
    Contrary to the conventional wisdom, there are a whole bunch of icky right wingers in Hollywood.

    USDA and schools (none / 0) (#41)
    by Edger on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 06:18:45 PM EST
    apparently are going to feed this to your kids...

    Pink slime -- that ammonia-treated meat in a bright Pepto-bismol shade -- may have been rejected by fast food joints like McDonald's, Taco Bell and Burger King, but is being brought in by the tons for the nation's school lunch program.

    The U.S. Department of Agriculture is purchasing 7 million pounds of the "slime" for school lunches, The Daily reports. Officially termed "Lean Beef Trimmings," the product is a ground-up combination of beef scraps, cow connective tissues and other beef trimmings that are treated with ammonium hydroxide to kill pathogens like salmonella and E. coli. It's then blended into traditional meat products like ground beef and hamburger patties.

    "We originally called it soylent pink," microbiologist Carl Custer, who worked at the Food Safety Inspection Service for 35 years, told The Daily. "We looked at the product and we objected to it because it used connective tissues instead of muscle. It was simply not nutritionally equivalent [to ground beef]. My main objection was that it was not meat."


    Parts is parts (none / 0) (#42)
    by CoralGables on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 06:44:07 PM EST
    It's just beef instead of chicken

    Saw "Pina," by Wim Wenders. (none / 0) (#49)
    by oculus on Wed Mar 07, 2012 at 09:17:21 PM EST
    Excellent (if you are an afficianado of modern dance and/or Wim Wenders).  3D.  

    I felt like I let you down last night (none / 0) (#68)
    by ruffian on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 12:04:25 PM EST
    It was my last chance to go while it is in town this week only, and I was just too tired to drive a half an hour each way.  I'm glad you saw it - I will try to enjoy it via psychic brain transmission.

    There are quite a few excerpts of (none / 0) (#80)
    by oculus on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 02:14:32 PM EST
    her choreography on You Tube.  I checked out some this morning, looking for her complete "Rite of Spring," which doesn't seem to available there but clips of that piece and others are.  

    Advertisers dropping Rush (none / 0) (#52)
    by Yman on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 08:04:21 AM EST
    It's up to 45, now.

    Candidate Joe the Plumber gets testy (none / 0) (#55)
    by Yman on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 09:18:42 AM EST
    ... when asked whether he stands by his anti-homosexual comments during an interview.

    After discussing his chances in his district, Sambolin brought up comments Wurzelbacher made in Christianity Today magazine in 2009, when he said, "Queer means strange and unusual. It's not like a slur, like you would call a white person a honky or something like that," and added that he wouldn't have gay people "anywhere near my children."

    "Have you changed your positions on this at all?" she asked. Wurzelbacher immediately bridled. "So, this is TMZ," he said. "This isn't CNN is what you're saying."

    "Of course, it's CNN," Sambolin said. "These are things you said that I would like to know if you still stand by them or if you have changed your positions on them." Wurzelbacher tried to move the conversation back to jobs, but Sambolin cut him off.

    "What about these comments that you made? Do you stand by these comments?" she asked. "Listen, in my dictionary and in everyone's dictionary from the 1970s, the word queer did mean strange and unusual," he said. "There was no slur to it. Do you challenge that?"

    "No, I'm just -- I'm questioning whether or not you still stand by these positions on homosexuality --" Zambolin said, as she and Wurzelbacher began talking over each other.

    "You're trying to do a gotcha moment, it's quite obvious!" he said.

    what some people fail to understand (none / 0) (#56)
    by CST on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 09:44:27 AM EST
    is that if speaking your mind is a "gotcha" moment - that's a problem when you're running for office.

    Romney ad slams Santorum (none / 0) (#57)
    by oculus on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 09:49:47 AM EST
    for voting to confirm Sotomayor?  And this ad is running in CA?  Informed Comment

    Remember (5.00 / 1) (#65)
    by CoralGables on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 11:42:03 AM EST
    the target isn't all California voters. His target is to try and garner half of the 37% that voted for McCain/Palin in California in 2008. That ad is geared at winning the hearts and mind of 19% of the State of California so he can win a primary. He already knows California isn't going Republican in November so he can write off the other 81%.

    IYHO? [snk.] (5.00 / 1) (#81)
    by oculus on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 02:15:36 PM EST
    IMHO (none / 0) (#92)
    by CoralGables on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 03:14:30 PM EST
    for a Padres fan, you're damn funny.

    That's b/c I am not reading about (none / 0) (#94)
    by oculus on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 03:27:01 PM EST
    spring training and don't see the current mix til later this month.  

    I do have to wonder (none / 0) (#93)
    by CoralGables on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 03:25:03 PM EST
    why the Romney campaign would already be spending money in a state that doesn't have their primary until June 5, unless they are in great fear of Santorum who in the two most recent California polls only trailed by 6.

    Winger militia groups explode (none / 0) (#62)
    by Yman on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 11:27:46 AM EST
    The election of President Barack Obama in 2008 triggered an explosion in the number of militias and so-called patriot groups in the United States, the Southern Poverty Law Center reported in its annual tally of such anti-government organizations.

    There were 149 militias and patriot groups when Obama took office, compared to more than 1,200 today -- an increase of 755 percent, the nonprofit civil rights organization reported.

    And they better watch out... (none / 0) (#66)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 11:46:11 AM EST
    Uncle Sam reserves the right to assasinate them.

    it's called preemptive war.. (none / 0) (#67)
    by jondee on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 12:00:01 PM EST
    when folks become overly addled from too much teabagging and start hoarding weapons and putting up Wanted for Treason posters the way they did in Dallas in '63..Well, thats flailing around a little too wildly in a crowded room to not expect some kind of response.  

    Investigation of suspected criminal activity... (none / 0) (#71)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 12:11:50 PM EST
    is allowed, within reason and with restrictions.

    Assasination should not even be crossing anyones mind, but it is now thanks to Bush & Obama.  Not to say I expect any CIA hitmen to be takin' out any militia bubbas anytime soon, but the card is in the deck if they should choose to play it and it'll be "legal", that my friend is more scary than any ragtag buncha militia nuts could ever hope to be.

    We gotta be careful about who we elevate to the level of "terrorist threat", we could get somebody killed.


    I was being ironic (none / 0) (#74)
    by jondee on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 12:40:02 PM EST
    with the "preemptive war" thing..

    The fact that Bush and Obama have codified into law something thats probably been going on right along is a double-edged sword, in that, it as a consequence, brings the history and discussion out into the harsh light of day in a way that it hadn't been before..Or, isn it just another step in the direction of institutionalizing and normalizing questionable policy to an already overly-cowed and aquiescent populace..

    We gotta be careful is right. Personally, I favor putting organic mescaline in their beef jerky. And to be fair, into whatever they're imbibing at the Pentagon, the CIA and Homeland Security..


    Now you're talking... (none / 0) (#75)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 12:48:12 PM EST
    better living through cacti!  Santana knows all about it;)

    I think government murder was in the light already for those who care to see the light...it was secret but not a very well kept one.  Normalizing and codifying legal cover for it really troubles me...like I said with the same codifying of torture as legal, in the very rare one in a million where it may be justified they can do it anyway and nobody is gonna mind.  But once codified, it becomes the standard fall-back position and all the abuses that entails.


    For anyone who has been (none / 0) (#76)
    by Edger on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 12:58:52 PM EST
    voting for or donating part of their paychecks to either of the two faces of the 1% Party, there is now a third option...

    Today Now!: Save Money By Taking A Vacation Entirely In Your Mind

    What he said (none / 0) (#77)
    by AngryBlackGuy on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 01:21:15 PM EST
    "The Incomplete Greatness of Barack Obama -
    He's gotten more done in three years than any president in decades. Too bad the American public still thinks he hasn't accomplished anything."

    Long piece. Covers all of the angles from the Anne/Edger arguments, to the conservative arguments to the ABG arguments.

    I don't think it gets anything truly wrong except that it does not weigh Obama's issues on civil liberties heavily enough.  But even so, I think the bottom line would be the same.

    He's done a lot of good stuff.

    "And yet a solid majority of Americans nevertheless thinks the president has not accomplished much. Why? There are plenty of possible explanations. The most obvious is the economy. People are measuring Obama's actions against the actual conditions of their lives and livelihoods, which, over the past three years, have not gotten materially better. He failed miserably at his grandiose promise to change the culture of Washington (see "Clinton's Third Term"). His highest-profile legislative accomplishments were object lessons in the ugly side of compromise. In negotiations, he came off to Democrats as naïvely trusting, and to Republicans as obstinately partisan, leaving the impression that he could have achieved more if only he had been less conciliatory--or more so, depending on your point of view. And for such an obviously gifted orator, he has been surprisingly inept at explaining to average Americans what he's fighting for or trumpeting what he's achieved.

    In short, when judging Obama's record so far, conservatives measure him against their fears, liberals against their hopes, and the rest of us against our pocketbooks. But if you measure Obama against other presidents--arguably the more relevant yardstick--a couple of things come to light. Speaking again in terms of sheer tonnage, Obama has gotten more done than any president since LBJ. But the effects of some of those achievements have yet to be felt by most Americans, often by design. Here, too, Obama is in good historical company."

    Hard to get past ... (5.00 / 2) (#78)
    by Yman on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 01:25:16 PM EST
    ... the illustration at the start of the article, showing Obama's face being added to Mt. Rushmore.

    Couldn't stop laughing ...


    Trust me (5.00 / 2) (#79)
    by sj on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 02:09:04 PM EST
    You didn't need to keep going.  It started referring to "sweeping new regulations of wall street" and "tough ... consumer protections on the credit card industry" and "revolutionary reform to student aid".

    Reading that article, one would that a populist of serious magnitude sat in the White House.  In other words.  It's right up ABG's alley -- a bunch of twisted assertions.  In fact, pages and pages of twisted assertions.  I stopped at page 3.  Actually, I couldn't believe I read that far.


    But, but, but ... Booman agrees! (5.00 / 2) (#85)
    by Yman on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 02:31:27 PM EST
    Booman agrees? (5.00 / 2) (#98)
    by Edger on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 03:35:27 PM EST
    If Obama ate a live baby on stage and on camera in a full stadium, Booman would call it lowering unemployment, restructuring social security, and health care reform.

    This is greatness-by-checklist (5.00 / 3) (#86)
    by Anne on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 02:34:57 PM EST
    stuff - so shallow as to be nearly meaningless.

    Those, like you, who subscribe to the look-at-how-much-he's-accomplished metric never get past the checkmarks to look at the quality.

    You can't.  Not and hold onto the illusion, the alternate reality you've created.

    If that reality works for you, splendid; but some of us need more than the illusion of accomplishment.


    Tend to agree. (none / 0) (#100)
    by brodie on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 03:59:37 PM EST
    Obama is the QB whose plodding offense racks up impressive yardage and time of possession stats that wow certain wonkish numbers oriented commentators, but he's also the cautious QB who leads the league in fewest interceptions bec he consistently plays for the safe short gains while settling nearly always for the field goal instead of going bold for the end zone.

    At a time where both domestically and abroad we needed bold, visionary and courageous leadership -- promised in his successful campaign -- that should have upset the major power players, we got instead cautious Eisenhoweresque moderation that TPTB mostly applauded with relief.

    Too early for a more definitive assessment with Iran and his second term still to be decided, but for now I put him behind JFK and FDR by a fair margin and also behind Clinton, in terms of successful 20th C presidents.  If he avoids war with Iran -- truly a major disaster lying in front of him -- and gets reelected, we can put him roughly on a par with Ike and ahead of Harry, Jimmy, Poppy and Lyin' Lyndon.


    i agree with almost everything you say here (none / 0) (#103)
    by The Addams Family on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 10:19:16 PM EST
    with one exception - i rate President Lyndon Johnson much higher than you do

    but from your past comments i am aware that there is no love to be lost between you and LBJ, to say the least - my dear brother feels the same way


    Let's look at the relevant statements in that (5.00 / 1) (#97)
    by Edger on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 03:31:47 PM EST
    "a solid majority of Americans nevertheless thinks the president has not accomplished much. Why?"

    [1] People are measuring Obama's actions against the actual conditions of their lives and livelihoods, which, over the past three years, have not gotten materially better.


    [2] But if you measure Obama against other presidents--arguably the more relevant yardstick--a couple of things come to light. Speaking again in terms of sheer tonnage, Obama has gotten more done than any president since LBJ.

    So, he's done a done of "stuff" - a long list of "stuff".

    Never mind the quality of that "stuff", as long as there's lots of it.

    None of that long list of "stuff" has resulted in making peoples lives materially better, but that ton of stuff has democrats, independents and progressives fleeing from him in disgust, while that ton of "stuff", so far, has 20% of republicans saying they'll vote for him this fall because in their view Romney is too moderate - and that republican support has him up to almost 50% approval now, from his low of what - almost 80% three years ago?

    Jeeze, he should be a shoe-in for re-election at this rate.

    Why, if you've been wanting to launch a new business Obama soon will have the business climate improved to the point where you'll be able to hire an American workforce for your new venture for no more than the cost of labor in China! Thanks to the first trade agreement entirely negotiated by Obama.

    After all, it's not his fault that even though he promised transparency there are still some people who are still unable to see through him.

    Yep, he's rockheaded alright. Bulletproof cranium too. There's your Rushmore reference.

    Meanwhile, back in the real world...

    ...what is it we Americans have been so complicit in hiding from ourselves in our devotion to the perverse legend that has come to inhabit our souls like a succubus?

    It is the millions of us with no work and no hope in middle age whose jobs and homes have been devoured by the heartless fraud machine of Wall Street. It is the trashed and demolished weedlots of our major cities eroding in crumbling, fire-gutted ruin. It is the many towns and cities with industries shut down and factories deserted or dismantled and shipped overseas.

    It is our decaying, disintegrating public schools, our bankrupt states and counties, our overtaxed, antiquated public transportation systems, our obsolete, dissolving infrastructure, our bloated, irrational prisons complex, our punishing and inadequate health care disaster, and over it all, the repressive mechanism of our police state, armed and empowered, ready for use against the American people themselves.
    * * *

    This is where we are. The great question now is whether we as a nation can awaken from this long historic nightmare and face the terrifying and exhilarating prospect of living in the full light of reality without the false props and dishonest constructs of a hoodwinked, herded and dishonored people or, whether we have internalized the falsity and disease to such an extent that it has become an organic, overmastering form of insanity.

    Limbaugh's latest (none / 0) (#88)
    by Yman on Thu Mar 08, 2012 at 02:49:47 PM EST
    Limbaugh says female Wash. Post writer injected her "b-i-itchy opinion" into her reporting.