Valentine's Day Open Thread

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    happy V-day, Jeralyn! (5.00 / 3) (#1)
    by The Addams Family on Tue Feb 14, 2012 at 01:05:47 PM EST
    you have a whole community of virtual valentines right here on TalkLeft

    Yes! I will be spending my evening as usual... (none / 0) (#3)
    by ruffian on Tue Feb 14, 2012 at 02:48:53 PM EST
    Wine, chocolate, and TL!

    I had Primus, chocolate, a few steamed shrimp (none / 0) (#12)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Feb 14, 2012 at 07:40:27 PM EST
    while we cooked.  Then I had steak and crab legs and then two Shari's berries.  It will be four miles on the elliptical tomorrow. Did not go out.  It is chaos out there.  We cooked at home alone.  Now I'm having TL and I'm very content and feeling loved.

    Typical dad! (5.00 / 1) (#20)
    by lilburro on Tue Feb 14, 2012 at 09:45:48 PM EST
    Steak sure promotes forgiveness though.  Enjoy!

    Talking about the guys girls bring home :) (none / 0) (#22)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 06:56:58 AM EST
    My early 20s was when I went on a deep spiritual kind of quest.  It was a very important time in my private life. I never spoke about it at length with my family either.  Such things were never important in my family, only that I was happy and healthy.  One of my first cousins that I am not close to oddly did the same thing.  She is slightly younger than I am.  She studied as much as I did on the subject, read everything she could find, chose a Buddhist type path of self reflection and challenging herself to try on different solutions to difficulties.  

    And when choosing a mate I brought home a soldier, so did she.  Her husband is now a Lt. Col. in the Marine Corp.  That's really weird.  


    Nary a love poem.. (none / 0) (#29)
    by jondee on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 12:38:15 PM EST
    say it isn't so..

    Here's one (from memory) from the Henry Miller of the 15th century, the Zen poet Ikkyu, to his lady love Mori:

    Mori, your name means forest, like the infintely fresh, green distances of your heart.

    White hairs or not, like a dog I'd like to sniff and taste you like a dog, and kiss your other mouth endlessly.

    Mori, if I ever forget my profound gratitude to you, let me burn in Hell forever.


    screwed it up (like my love life) (none / 0) (#30)
    by jondee on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 12:43:34 PM EST
    ..too many "like a dogs" in there, but you get the idea..

    Jondee, baby (none / 0) (#33)
    by Dadler on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 02:01:29 PM EST
    Interesting interview of Viola Davis (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by oculus on Tue Feb 14, 2012 at 01:10:10 PM EST
    at NYT's Carpetbagger blog.  I had similar misgivings watching Horton Foote's  "Dividing the Estate" Sunday and had to squelch my urge to inquire at intermission of African Americans in the audience what reaction they had to the AA servants to the Caucasian quasi aristocracy.  

    If you want to do some random acts of kindness (5.00 / 9) (#5)
    by Edger on Tue Feb 14, 2012 at 03:10:33 PM EST
    to put a smile on a strangers face, try this (it works!)

    Yesterday I was walking down a aisle in safeway past the flowers when a heard a sad voice behind me say "nobody ever buys me flowers".

    I looked back and there were two ladies about maybe 85-90 years old there - one of them looking sadly at the flowers.

    I picked up what I needed and went through the checkout. As I was leaving I noticed them again lined up at the same checkout - so I went over to the flower section and bought a single rose. Took it back and stood waiting for them to come through the checkout, and gave the rose to the one I had heard earlier, said happy valentines day, and gave her a kiss on the forehead to go with it.

    The smile she gave me was blinding, and the single tear than rolled down her cheek would have melted you if you'd seen it. :-)

    It was a good feeling. People in the parking lot must have been wondering what I was grinning at as I walked away from the store...

    Awwww, that is really sweet. (5.00 / 2) (#6)
    by ruffian on Tue Feb 14, 2012 at 03:21:19 PM EST
    thanks for the reminder to look for ways to make someone's day.

    I'm slipping though (5.00 / 3) (#7)
    by Edger on Tue Feb 14, 2012 at 03:32:39 PM EST
    I must be getting old. I never got her phone number. ;-)

    I finally watched the last season (none / 0) (#25)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 10:42:49 AM EST
    of Dexter.  I think I was a little disappointed.  not in the killer parts but more in how they handled the issue of faith.

    I was expecting a more thoughtful exploration of the subject but by the end it just seemed it was a vehicle for the featured killer.  I was disappointed in that.  I wanted to see Dexters lack of faith, which is equal to my own, challenged.

    but other than that I liked the season.


    What a lovely thing to do, Edger (5.00 / 2) (#8)
    by Dr Molly on Tue Feb 14, 2012 at 06:40:59 PM EST
    I had fun :-) (5.00 / 2) (#10)
    by Edger on Tue Feb 14, 2012 at 06:59:51 PM EST
    Oh, you sweet thing! (5.00 / 2) (#9)
    by Zorba on Tue Feb 14, 2012 at 06:52:59 PM EST
    Good for you!

    It made me feel good al day. (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by Edger on Tue Feb 14, 2012 at 07:00:38 PM EST
    So there was some selfish return from it too ;-)

    What a great story! (5.00 / 2) (#19)
    by lilburro on Tue Feb 14, 2012 at 09:43:37 PM EST
    Way to go Edger :)

    I hope everyone has a great Valentine's Day (5.00 / 2) (#13)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Feb 14, 2012 at 07:47:28 PM EST
    One of my single friends texted us "Happy Single Awareness Day".  She's a funny girl, but tired of being single.  One of my son's classmates made homemade fortune cookies and in each one she put the message BE YOURSELF, EVERYONE ELSE IS TAKEN to trump that old" Be Mine" slogan  :)

    I can relate.. (5.00 / 2) (#15)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Feb 14, 2012 at 08:06:15 PM EST
    That's why I took my Valentine (me) self out for a steak last night.

    Heh (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by lilburro on Tue Feb 14, 2012 at 09:23:56 PM EST
    friends of mine from home were all out at a place we used to go to last weekend (I've been gone for about 3 1/2 months now).  They posed for a picture and sent it to me with the caption "we miss you!" over the weekend.  Totally out of the blue and made my day.

    Point being, I get to spend Valentine's Day not only knowing that I am loved, but knowing that I get to do whatever I want this weekend >:D  Maybe not always but hey I think it's usually fun to be single.


    I got the dogs a cake from the pet store (none / 0) (#24)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 10:39:39 AM EST
    and a bag of carrots for the horses.  welcome to country life.

    I wanted to congratulate you on your presence about Santorum.  you said he would rise and Newt would fall and I doubted it.  I could not be more surprised.  I suppose in a way it makes a bit of sense in that he has a bit less baggage than Newt but I still am amazed.  
    having said that I am delighted since IMO he is even more unelectable than Newt and my larger point that Mitt is in serious trouble with the base is still true.  also I think Newt may rise again at least a bit on super tuesday although Rick could take some of the wind out of his sails.

    if Ricky wins MI I think all bets are off for Mitt.  

    I love this and I really dont care who the conservative alternative is (and never did) but I knew one was coming.

    but I cheerfully eat Santorum crow.  (that sounded very unappetizing but I am still cheerfull)


    oooo, icky! On so many levels. (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by ruffian on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 10:49:35 AM EST
    I was thinking that the GOPers rejection of Mitt, even though he is the pick of their elite paymasters, makes me understand their love for the phrase "don't want things rammed down our throat". As usual, their projection issues would keep a psychiatrist busy for years.  

    I don't know what the Republicans are (5.00 / 0) (#28)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 12:27:57 PM EST
    going to do now.  I'm seeing a brokered convention with Jeb Bush as the selected nominee if Jeb is ready to risk running so soon after Dubya blew everything up.

    Maybe with Liz Cheney as running mate (none / 0) (#31)
    by ruffian on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 01:18:54 PM EST
    Nauseating as hell (none / 0) (#71)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Feb 16, 2012 at 03:55:17 AM EST
    That would just about size up their starting lineup though wouldn't it?

    What would you call (none / 0) (#44)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 02:58:24 PM EST
    1972? I thought that was a "brokered" convention or something.

    I dont know about that (none / 0) (#51)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 03:54:02 PM EST
    I am reading more and more about a brokered convention.  perhaps it would not mean exactly what it has meant before with it being brokered in a smoked filled (smoke free) room.  we might actually get to see real democracy in action.

    Rachel has had a guy from the Paul campaign a couple of times on talking about a very curious thing that no one else seems to be talking about - that Paul may actually have more delegates than anyone else.

    I dont really know what this means but I have a feeling it means something.

    Paul may be the october surprise.
    before you are dismissive of this please watch these two segments.

    last week

    this week


    also (5.00 / 1) (#59)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 04:21:14 PM EST
    if there is no winner in the primary (no one getting the needed delegates) is it not the delegates and not the GOP who would pick the nominee?

    and the guy is right.  Paul delegates can not be bought.   they are zealots.  

    august may be fun.


    still (5.00 / 1) (#66)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 07:34:10 PM EST
    the strategy they are using is apparently a real one.  I saw this on another blog:

    Really - you need to watch this before you comment unless you already know how this works. It is apparently legal but is it ethical? Watch this all the way through to hear FROM PAUL'S SPOKESPERSON about how the party changed the rules to supposedly favor Romney but how in fact Paul is using the rules to his own advantage. One more question - does this strategy reflect a pretty clever man or one who would use the system against the voters desires? After all any of the candidates could use this strategy. And maybe more will compete in this arena now that the cat is out of the bag.

    will it work? who knows.  but I honestly think there is more than smoke here.


    Ron Paul's delegates are true believers (none / 0) (#73)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Feb 16, 2012 at 04:20:57 AM EST
    Where as nobody else has those.  The rest are open to negotiations.  I don't know how Ron Paul's delegates will play out, what he has....but they are not open to negotiations.  Whoever garners enough delegates will have to work around that if the GOP means to shun Paul.  It will prove an even greater challenge.

    I am inclined to agree with you (none / 0) (#57)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 04:17:30 PM EST
    but this is one crazy year.  sall Im sayin

    I have no idea what this huge (none / 0) (#74)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Feb 16, 2012 at 04:29:55 AM EST
    post has to do with anything currently.  It is fine to list history as you understand it, but a convention where no true winner reigns at the beginning is very possible for the Republicans this year.

    Secondly, it is pretty obvious that the Republicans may not even have the option of hoping for a win.  At this point it is extremely doubtful that anyone they put up can beat Obama, and without a huge economic crash before the election they've got nothing.

    Thirdly, candidates put themselves up all the time before they know they can win something in order to make new connections, build the machine, gain name recognition, and a hundred other things that are gained by doing that.  I would not be surprised if Jeb did it at all.  And if there is another economic crash before the election I would bank on it.


    I agree with all but the Jeb part (none / 0) (#78)
    by Capt Howdy on Thu Feb 16, 2012 at 07:29:15 AM EST
    I think it will be one of the current runners.  but how they get there may be a sight to see.

    I just saw BTDs current write up (5.00 / 1) (#79)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Feb 16, 2012 at 10:29:14 AM EST
    about the GOP Wurlitzer.  The party as a whole has become so delusional I don't think we will find any answers or tell tale signs in history to indicate how they will move forward at this point.

    How did they come to this?  I wish I understood, but perhaps Fox News has something to do with it.  Perhaps the Conservative mind is wired in a certain manner, and Fox News exploited that and now they are all just flat out NUTS!

    If ever I saw a place where we'd have enough support for a third party, this is beginning to look that way.


    Riding thie tiger (none / 0) (#81)
    by christinep on Thu Feb 16, 2012 at 01:01:46 PM EST
    From that infamous day in 2009 when Boehner et al stood outsiide the Capitol rotunda in welcoming the then- new tea party demonstrators, the Republicans mounted the tiger.  It is hard to keep riding that tiger, isn't it.

    BTW, I concur with your reaction to the hardball strategic possibilities offered by upcoming Republican Open Primaries.  Recall that the same Repubs, in less organized fashion, to do the same thing to/with the Democratic primaries in 2008.  And, despite a bit of concern that Santorum may do better than expected in a Gerald Election, two things:  That Santorum could best Romney in Michigan, e.g., only dans a nasty- turn for Republicans for a longer, agonizing while AND it does not guarantee who would get their party's nod. That would be good for Democrats...under any scenario.


    Oops...sorry for the many typos (none / 0) (#82)
    by christinep on Thu Feb 16, 2012 at 01:04:17 PM EST
    My hands seem to be off on their own today.

    Santorum (none / 0) (#37)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 02:16:13 PM EST
    is not more unelectable than Newt because 1. he managed to get himself elected statewide in PA a marginally blue state. The only thing that Newt has been able to win in is a gerrymandered district. 2. Santorum has the ability to speak to working class voters without coming off all angry and crazy like Newt. Santorum actually has a constituency within the GOP albeit mostly elderly evangelicals. All that being said, I don't know how he dances around a lot of things that he has written in the past. And as far as spending, well, Santorum vs. Obama if that's what it comes to is not going to have a spending debate.

    I don't know about that (5.00 / 0) (#38)
    by ruffian on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 02:30:00 PM EST
    "without coming off all angry and crazy" thing. Santorum comes across like a rabid dog to me.

    Well (none / 0) (#41)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 02:45:16 PM EST
    from what I've seen his stances might be crazy but he comes off as "normal" for the most part.

    Think Mike Huckabee and that's Santorum. That's the closest comparison I can think of.


    Maybe I have missed it -I have never seen Santorum (5.00 / 0) (#56)
    by ruffian on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 04:13:05 PM EST
    look nearly as nice and likable as Huckabee. Santorum has a permanent sneer and says a lot meaner things than I ever heard from Huckablee.

    I do think he is the ideal attack dog VEEP candidate however. I fully expect him to be the VP nominee.


    with ads like this one (none / 0) (#58)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 04:18:13 PM EST
    Rickey is (none / 0) (#52)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 03:56:26 PM EST
    entirely unelectable based solely on his positions on contraception and women in the workplace.

    I would love to see what happens when he tells the women of america they should stay home and get pregnant.

    if he by some chance wins it will be a very good year for democrats.


    I'm just (none / 0) (#68)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 08:00:13 PM EST
    not so sure. You would think so but then George W. Bush held nearly the same views.

    But, he couldn't get himself re-elected, (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by Anne on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 02:59:10 PM EST
     so what does that tell you?  That after six years of getting to know Rick Santorum, the people of Pennsylvania decided they had had enough.  And it's not like it was even close.

    The spotlight is killing the Republican candidates - the brighter the light, the easier it is to see the crazy.  Rick Santorum apparently doesn't think women are his - or any man's - equal; we're baby-making machines who can cook and clean and keep the home fires burning for our brave and smart husbands.  We don't compete, we complement.  It works for him, in his house, therefore that's the standard to be achieved.  Pesky feminists are ruining the family structure because of their misguided ambition.  All of our reproductive organs are belong to men.  For him, women do not tell, they ask - permission, that is.  We live to serve, unless we're in the military and then we're too distracting to be useful, especially with weapons.  We can be nurses and secretaries, I guess.

    As far as I can tell, each of these GOP candidates is his (and for a while, her) own brand of crazy - some with an extra dose of religious fervor.  If they could get rid of that, one of them might have a shot, but I don't think the gee-it's-great-to-be-barefoot-and-pregnant crowd is going to be large enough to elect one of the current crop.

    And if anyone spots Liz Cheney in the house, run as far away as you can, as fast as you can.



    Actually he had 12 (none / 0) (#47)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 03:24:07 PM EST
    years in office Ann. So he manged to get himself reelected once.

    I'm not a fan of Santorum's by any means but the cavalier attitude around here kind of bugs me sometimes. Any time I start thinking that way there are two words that undo it: George W. Bush. George W. Bush is someone who screwed up so badly and completely so many times but yet was reelected. So in my mind if George W. Bush can win an election ANYBODY can win an election even Santorum given the right day of the week.

    But Ann in all honesty are Santorum's views any different than George W. Bush's? I certainly don't see to much daylight between them.

    All that being said, the bane of Santorum's existence is going to be the suburban women who apparently can "swing" an election. I don't see Santorum having any appeal to that group.


    Small point:, unrelated to Santorum: (5.00 / 0) (#49)
    by Anne on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 03:49:47 PM EST
    it's "Anne" with an "e" - not "Ann."


    My bad for not realizing Rick had two terms, not one, and I agree with you that no candidate should be taken lightly - GWB is proof of that, for sure.

    I just don't think that Santorum can get elected on a platform of sending women back to the Dark Ages.


    exactly (none / 0) (#53)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 03:57:33 PM EST
    I just don't think that Santorum can get elected on a platform of sending women back to the Dark Ages.

    and there is plenty more Santorum crazy out there.


    I'm (none / 0) (#67)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 07:56:00 PM EST
    sorry about that Anne. That's what I get for not paying attention.

    don't fret, Go7thGop (none / 0) (#69)
    by DFLer on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 09:04:35 PM EST
    . . . not that there's anything wrong (none / 0) (#70)
    by The Addams Family on Thu Feb 16, 2012 at 01:32:04 AM EST
    with being a nurse or a secretary . . .

    Of course there isn't, but someone like (none / 0) (#77)
    by Anne on Thu Feb 16, 2012 at 07:23:32 AM EST
    Santorum, who sees women in roles of subservience, not leadership, would consider a nurse - who assists the doctor - and a secretary - who assists a boss - as being roles more suited to women.  He doesn't think there's something wrong with being a secretary or a nurse - but he does seem to think it's wrong for women to aspire to roles of greater responsibility and decision-making that might interfere with their primary roles as wives and mothers.

    You're an exceptionally intelligent person, so I think you probably understood the context of my comments, which were more reflective of my understanding of Santorum's thinking and attitude, and not at all my own beliefs about the role of women and the value of any job they undertake.

    So, why the gratuitous tweak?


    i was thinking about (none / 0) (#80)
    by The Addams Family on Thu Feb 16, 2012 at 12:15:39 PM EST
    the commenter called loveed, who we know is a very skilled & specialized nurse (dialysis) with decades of experience, & who (as she says) "truly loves" her patients - i wondered how she might feel reading your comment

    i was also thinking about women i know who have master's degrees & doctorates in nursing & whose job descriptions go far beyond "assisting" doctors - some of them are university faculty & some are primary healthcare providers in their own right

    & anyone who knows organizations knows that secretaries not only run the places but remember where all the bodies are buried

    the larger idea here is that all work, if performed with passion & integrity, is honorable & deserving of honor

    i'm old enough (& so are you) to remember when the only workplace roles for women were nurse, secretary, or teacher (training for the latter role became available to females in my original socioeconomic class as a consequence of the Sputnik launch), & so of course i take your excellent point about Rick Santorum, though i did find its expression just a bit awkward

    but it seems that my (gently, i thought) implying as much offended you, & for that i apologize


    Loveed's beef would be with (none / 0) (#83)
    by Anne on Thu Feb 16, 2012 at 02:05:41 PM EST
    Santorum, not me; I'm not the one who apparently sees women as needing to be limited to serving in supporting roles because to do otherwise would threaten the integrity of the family structure and the man's God-given role as the family leader.

    And if the construction of my comment led you, or anyone else, to believe that I was expressing my own views about the value of the work - any work - that women do, I apologize.  

    You don't need to explain to me - a paralegal with over 30 years experience and a lot of education - the value of the work women do; the person who needs to have that explained to him is Mr. Santorum - and it was his worldview which I was simultaneously rejecting and mocking.

    I'm a wife and a mother, too, so I understand the whole work/life balance thing, and the choices I had.  What so offends me about the Rick Santorums of the world is that they believe their choices should be everyone's choices, that theirs are the right ones, and those of us who go in a different direction are not just wrong to do so, but less worthy of respect.  We are bad wives and bad mothers in their book.  Period.

    No one who thinks like that should be in a position to make decisions for an entire population.


    Santorum said some of the most (5.00 / 1) (#75)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Feb 16, 2012 at 04:35:16 AM EST
    heinous racist things in January.  The Republican base has only conveniently forgotten about them for this moment.  You run that film footage of those same things he said during the General Election though and he can just go home on day one before he embarrasses them all and scars the national impression of all of them deeply forever.

    Well (none / 0) (#76)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Feb 16, 2012 at 06:42:45 AM EST
    I hope you're right.

    A Happy Va-Lin-Tines indeed.... (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by kdog on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 09:03:50 AM EST
    Lincredible!  The improbable run continues, the legend grows...

    Lets hear it for the unsung hero too, Iman Shumpert.  Shump changed the game when he started guarding Calderon, totally shut him down after he torched us in the first half.  And the steal and dunk late to put us within three made Lin's last second heroics possible.

    Another gritty team effort, another road win...NYC is going absolutely hoops bonkers.  Back home to MSG to face the Kings tonight, its the hottest ticket in town.  

    The game slows down for him (5.00 / 1) (#36)
    by Dadler on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 02:13:42 PM EST
    His court awareness, control of tempo, deceptive and perfectly timed quickness, the solid out side shot...this kid is just blooming right in front of the world.  Amazing and beautiful to watch.

    BTW, last part of Assland is up at the story blog. (LINK)



    Liz Trotta on Fox News Feb. 12... (5.00 / 1) (#64)
    by Edger on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 07:25:47 PM EST
    On February 12, Fox News contributor Liz Trotta said, on air, that women in the military should "expect" to be raped.

    Trotta cited as evidence a new Pentagon report on sexual abuse in the military: "I think they have actually discovered there is a difference between men and women. And the sexual abuse report says that there has been, since 2006, a 64% increase in violent sexual assaults. Now, what did they expect?"


    Where do they find people (none / 0) (#65)
    by Edger on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 07:31:35 PM EST
    who can get on TV and say this kind of sh*t with straight face?

    where can they find them? (5.00 / 1) (#72)
    by kmblue on Thu Feb 16, 2012 at 03:56:51 AM EST

    Iowa East (none / 0) (#4)
    by CoralGables on Tue Feb 14, 2012 at 03:06:59 PM EST
    AUGUSTA, Maine -- Pressure is on the Maine Republican Party to reconsider its weekend declaration that Mitt Romney won the state's caucuses.

    As strange (none / 0) (#21)
    by CoralGables on Tue Feb 14, 2012 at 11:07:36 PM EST
    as this sounds, it was Asian Heritage night at the Toronto Raptors game tonight.

    Such a great story (none / 0) (#26)
    by ruffian on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 10:43:45 AM EST
    It is a reminder of what superior skills an athlete has to have to even make it onto an NBA team at all. Lin made the most of his shot at playing time. I hope it inspires the rest of the bench dwellers to do the same.

    The scoring binge... (5.00 / 1) (#34)
    by kdog on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 02:11:38 PM EST
    while record-breaking and most impressive, really ain't the half of what Super Lintendo has done for this team.

    What may be the most impressive part of Linsanity is the effect he has had on his teammates and their game. Many a player has the talent to drop 20-25 a night, the select few make their teammates better in the process.  

    I'm literally chomping at the bit over here to get home, call the fellas, and watch some Knick basketball...two weeks ago that would have been unfathomable.


    I heard that, and it is true to a point (none / 0) (#39)
    by ruffian on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 02:34:41 PM EST
    But Lin did make it to an NBA team somehow. Sure, whoever picked him for the Knicks did not foresee this, but it is not like Lin came on to the court from out behind the hot dog counter. To me it says there are plenty of potential Lins out there on the teams already if they would get a chance to play. I think the league is too reliant on the big stars.

    Maybe I'm dense, but Lin is NOT in our midst. (none / 0) (#48)
    by ruffian on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 03:39:55 PM EST
    He's in the NBA. I agree with the last point, that many brilliant people never get a chance, but Lin is not the example that tells us that.

    The NBA draft is only two rounds now (none / 0) (#62)
    by Dadler on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 07:13:13 PM EST
    Hardly anyone, when you consider the number of U.S. players PLUS all the international ballers, gets drafted out of college.  The "experts" are just as prone to the blindness caused by their own paradigms as anyone else.  And his race certainly played a huge part in assumptions made about him by almost everyone who evaluated his potential ceiling a player.

    ceiling AS a player (none / 0) (#63)
    by Dadler on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 07:13:39 PM EST

    I worked late (none / 0) (#35)
    by CST on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 02:12:14 PM EST
    last night and got in early today.

    Love and deadlines don't mix.  Almost... there...

    That's okay, I never really got v-day.  I prefer my flowers on a random Tuesday, and they're a lot cheaper then too.

    Have you got (none / 0) (#40)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 02:43:56 PM EST
    somebody who's "sweet" on you?

    to be determined (none / 0) (#46)
    by CST on Wed Feb 15, 2012 at 03:02:39 PM EST
    Also the last serious one worked for a flower company.  So that meant lots of flowers, but overtime work on V-day so we could never actually hang out.  Maybe that's why I don't really like it much.