Sunday Open Thread

The Rolling Stones are about to take the stage in London for their first concert on their 50th Anniversary tour. Joining them for this performance: Mick Taylor, Bill Wyman, Jeff Beck and Mary K. Blige.

The band is live-tweeting the show, with pictures. Also check out #StonesO2

Update: Here's some photos I grabbed off of twitter and from DirtyRock on FB. Here's the set list.

This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    Zorba - Your butternut squash ... (5.00 / 2) (#18)
    by Yman on Mon Nov 26, 2012 at 07:57:41 AM EST
    ... casserole recipe was a big hit at Thanksgiving (and pretty easy, too)!  I may ease up a bit on the bacon, though.  I used about 3/4 lb. and (much as I love bacon) it took over the flavor a bit.

    Definitely a keeper!

    set list so far (none / 0) (#1)
    by Jeralyn on Sun Nov 25, 2012 at 03:55:20 PM EST
    I Wanna Be Your Man (single, 1963)
    Get Off My Cloud (single, 1965)
    It's All Over Now (single, 1964)
    Paint It Black (single, 1966)
    Gimme Shelter (with Mary J. Blige) (from Let It Bleed, 1969)
    Wild Horses (from Sticky Fingers, 1971)
    All Down The Line (from Exile On Main Street, 1972)
    I'm Going Down (with Jeff Beck) (from Metamorphosis, 1969)
    Out Of Control (from Bridges To Babylon, 1998)
    One Last Shot (from GRRR, 2012)
    Doom and Gloom (from GRRR, 2012)
    It's Only Rock and Roll (with Bill Wyman) (It's Only Rock And Roll, 1974)
    Honky Tonk Woman (single, 1969)
    (band intros)
    Before They Make You Run (Keith Richards vocals) (from Some Girls, 1978)

    More Set list (none / 0) (#4)
    by Jeralyn on Sun Nov 25, 2012 at 04:25:05 PM EST
    Happy (Keith Richards vocals) (from Exile On Main Street, 1972)
    Midnight Rambler (with Mick Taylor) (from Let It Bleed, 1969)
    Miss You (from Some Girls, 1978)
    Start Me Up
    Tumbling Dice

    remainder (none / 0) (#9)
    by Jeralyn on Sun Nov 25, 2012 at 05:14:11 PM EST
    Brown Sugar (from Sticky Fingers, 1971)
    Sympathy For The Devil (from Beggars Banquet, 1968)
    You Can't Always Get What You Want (with choir)
    Jumping Jack Flash (single, 1968)

    Play list (none / 0) (#11)
    by womanwarrior on Sun Nov 25, 2012 at 06:25:35 PM EST
    Wow, that is some list!  All those songs we grew up and older with.  They are still fresh today, even if Mick and company look a little too much like death warmed over.  Went to a concert in Philadelphia and it was so amazing to watch Mick strut and hear what a tight band they were.  I was newly pregnant with my youngest (didn't know at the time) and I attribute her love of music to that start in life.  

    Houston Rockets Coach Kevin McHale ... (none / 0) (#2)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Nov 25, 2012 at 03:56:38 PM EST
    ... became the subject of speculation recently when he left the team abruptly on November 10 and went on leave for what the team's management called "a personal matter."

    Three days ago, the team noted that McHale's personal circumstances were "improving" and that he was discussing team personnel matters again, in a public statement which also hinted that the situation apparently involved a severe health crisis in the coach's immediate family.

    Sadly, however, Rockets owner Leslie Alexander announced this morning that 23-year-old Alexandra "Sasha" McHale died Saturday afternoon of complications from systemic lupus erythematosus, a chronic and potentially severe auto-immunity disorder affecting mostly (but not exclusively) women, in which the body's immune system somehow becomes hyperactivated and commences to attack otherwise healthy tissues and organs.

    My condolences, thoughts and prayers are with Coach McHale and his wife Lynn for the tragic loss of their beautiful young daughter.

    Sad to hear (none / 0) (#5)
    by Dadler on Sun Nov 25, 2012 at 04:27:13 PM EST
    As I'm sure you'll share with me as a fellow lifelong Laker fan (which I assume on your part as a socal native), I remember well all those games against the Celtics, whom I both hated and secretly admired for the way they played an almost diametrically opposed game to the Laker showtime act (which I loved).  They way they would work the ball around, to Bird for a sure two or three, or Ainge or DJ for a sure jumper, or inside to Parish or McHale for that little turnaround jumper or half-hook or his.  Respected his game to the max, even though I wanted to clock him when he clotheslined Rambis in 85'. Hope his family recovers as best they can, and RIP to his daughter.

    I "hate" the Celtics. (none / 0) (#7)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Nov 25, 2012 at 04:40:40 PM EST
    That said, such "hatred" is borne from profound respect for the organization and the team, and all their many accomplishments.

    Kevin McHale, Larry Bird, Robert Parrish, et al, were studs on the hardwood, and their record in Boston speaks for itself. If you beat them in a game, then you had truly beaten someone of significance. To beat them in a best-of-7 playoff series required a supreme effort -- and even then, it would be a very close run.


    From our "Chump Change" file: (none / 0) (#3)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Nov 25, 2012 at 04:14:56 PM EST
    Two years after Auburn head football coach Gene Chizik led the Tigers to a national championship, he was abruptly fired by the university today after suffering through a 3-9 season in which the team failed to win a single conference game, and was further outscored 150-21 in their last four gammes.

    Because the dismissal is admittedly without cause per terms of Coach Chizik's contract, the cost of buying him out, along with the contracts of his entire staff, will cost Auburn $11.09 million. Coach Chizik will be paid off in monthly installments of $208,334 for the next three years.

    pretty decent severance (none / 0) (#6)
    by Dadler on Sun Nov 25, 2012 at 04:28:53 PM EST
    that's what i call an installment plan.  pigskin is quite the commodity, in all forms, it seems.

    I should say so. (none / 0) (#8)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Nov 25, 2012 at 04:48:26 PM EST
    That buyout is the equivalent of 30% of the University of Hawaii athletic department's entire annual budget, covering all D-1 men's and women's sports.

    RIP Larry Hagman (none / 0) (#10)
    by sj on Sun Nov 25, 2012 at 06:07:25 PM EST
    Am I the only one just hearing about this?  It happened on Friday, apparently.

    I loved "I Dream Of Jeannie"...

    I think it got a little lost in the holiday (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by lilburro on Sun Nov 25, 2012 at 07:51:47 PM EST
    shuffle...I heard about it last night and meant to post something.  I loved him in Dallas...what a memorable S.O.B.  RIP Mr. Hagman.  And did you know he was Mary Martin's son?  Crazy.  I watched her version of Peter Pan as a kid almost every morning for a while.

    The L.A. Times had a good obituary ... (none / 0) (#17)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Nov 25, 2012 at 09:24:46 PM EST
    ... on Larry Hagman last Friday. Apparently, Mary Martin was only 17 when she gave birth to her son. According to the Times, she left Texas soon afterward to pursue her dreams in Hollywood, leaving Larry behind in Ft. Worth to be raised by his maternal grandmother. "We're more like brother and sister than mother and son," he said of Martin back in 1981.

    Larry Hagman's J.R. Ewing ... (none / 0) (#14)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Nov 25, 2012 at 07:49:45 PM EST
    ... of Dallas (CBS 1978-91 and TNT 2011-present) is arguably primetime TV's prototype anti-hero. He made the bad guy fashionable in TV drama as the central character who could carry a show.

    And of course, his oft-befuddled Maj. Anthony Nelson proved a great comic foil in I Dream of Jeannie, an amusing and sight gag-dependent '60s sitcom which CBS had the good sense to end after a five-year run, before its inherent sexism became decidedly unfashionable.

    Larry Hagman was a good guy, and he'll be missed -- especially by TNT, which resurrected and updated Dallas to boffo ratings last season, and was in the midst of filming its second season when Hagman died.


    The NCAA Volleyball Selection Committee ... (none / 0) (#12)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Nov 25, 2012 at 06:46:31 PM EST
    ... continues to amaze, year in and year out. Tournament selections were announced today for this year's women's tournament, and despite its 26-2 record and No. 8 national ranking, Hawaii was once again left shockingly unseeded. Instead of playing at home, the Rainbow Wahine were sent to Seattle for the first two rounds -- meaning that they'll be up against No. 5 Washington in the second round of 32.

    Eight schools which are ranked below Hawaii were given seedings and allowed to play at home the first two rounds, including Kentucky, Florida State, Minnesota, Kansas and USC. One of them, Kentucky, isn't even in the Top 25! Ironically, Hawaii has already beaten four of the teams seeded in front of them this season, including No. 2 Stanford.

    I know that it's expensive for the NCAA to send three teams to Hawaii, as opposed to just sending Hawaii to the west coast. But the standing rule is that the top 16 ranked teams have earned the right to be seeded, and are allowed to host the regionals. Schools should not be punished or snubbed simply by virtue of their geography.

    This is the fourth time in the last five years that the selection committee somehow saw fit to set aside that rule with regard to UH. Five years ago, the Wahine were ranked No. 1 in the country, but were left unseeded and forced to travel to Nebraska. They can't claim that the Big West is a weak conference, because schools from that same conference have won nine NCAA women's volleyball crowns over the last 30 seasons.

    (Albany lost the championship match of the America East tournament, so the Lady Danes are done for the season, and Elder Daughter's college career has come to a close.)

    Which rankings do they use? (none / 0) (#13)
    by CoralGables on Sun Nov 25, 2012 at 07:42:59 PM EST
    the AVCA coaches ranking has them 8th but the NCAA Women's Volleyball RPI poll has Hawaii 17th. It appears they follow more closely to the RPI ranking although not exactly.

    Just like the NCAA basketball seedings, the rankings are fairly meaningless and it's likely set both by RPI and geography. For the record the RPI ranking puts Washington at #16 although they are seeded at #13. The opening opponent for Hawaii is Santa Clara coming in at #45 and rounding out their foursome is Central Arkansas at #49.


    At this point, your guess is ... (none / 0) (#16)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Nov 25, 2012 at 08:22:05 PM EST
    ... probably as good as mine. Certainly, the RPI  plays a factor, but the NCAA supposedly revamped its selection criteria two years ago to lessen its emphasis on computer-generated rankings, after numerous coaches complained over the years that the RPI inordinately skewed to the benefit of the Pac-10 (now Pac-12) at tournament selection time.

    I think that there's no substitute for human judgment when it comes to tournament seedings and selections, and common sense dictates that Hawaii earned the right this season to host the first two rounds, especially after going unbeaten in the always-tough Big West Conference.

    Further, I was there in person when the Rainbow Wahine lit up the Stanford Cardinal -- who was No. 1 until this weekend, when they lost to UCLA in the Pac-12 tourney final -- and that rather decisive victory certainly should have counted for something in the committee's decision making.

    Finally, there is also the intangible -- and obviously unspoken -- factor of money. Like I said earlier, it's pretty expensive for the NCAA to have to send three entire teams with their coaching staffs and school administrative entourages to the islands, all expenses paid. The temptation to simply send Hawaii to the mainland unseeded, and thus save the NCAA a good chunk of change in the bargain, is always going to be there.

    Tight NCAA budgets have always tended to work against Hawaii's favor come tourney time in sports like women's volleyball. women's softball and men's baseball. Even though the first two rounds in Honolulu would have been guaranteed sellouts of 10,300 fans each night, the NCAA would've still lost money.



    It's Mary J. Blige (none / 0) (#19)
    by ScottW714 on Mon Nov 26, 2012 at 10:27:00 AM EST
    Mary Kay sell cosmetics.