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A New Specific Terror Threat for 9/11

ABC News skipped the analysis after President Obama's speech to cover an unconfirmed but specific terror threat from an outside country connected to 9/11. The target may be Washington or New York. The threat came in Wednesday night. Obama was briefed today.

CBS is covering the speech. NBC went to football.

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    We're mature enough (5.00 / 2) (#1)
    by jeffinalabama on Thu Sep 08, 2011 at 07:07:24 PM EST
    to hear more than an 'unspecified terror threat.' Give us information, we can deal with it.

    We are citizens, not babies.

    sorry darlin' . . . . (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by nycstray on Thu Sep 08, 2011 at 07:11:49 PM EST
    there can only be one adult in the room . . .

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    We may be mature enough, but never (5.00 / 4) (#6)
    by Anne on Thu Sep 08, 2011 at 07:35:23 PM EST
    underestimate the power of a threat to bring people back into line, remind them how important all that defense spending is, and make them more amenable to social safety net "changes" so we don't have to put our security at risk.

    I guess I have terminal cynicism, but I just don't ever trust or believe them when they leak "news" about terror threats; all I could think was, "this is all about reminding the people what a big burden Onama has," so we all go easy on the criticism.

    Bleah.

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    Not so sure, (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by NYShooter on Thu Sep 08, 2011 at 08:12:25 PM EST
    Key Senate & House Leaders have been briefed, plus Mayor Bloomberg.

    Also, it wasn't "leaked," it was announced.

    Cynicism is good sometimes; vigilance at others.

    With the leadership of the last years it's a shame there's even a question.


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    Did someone forget to tell (none / 0) (#12)
    by MO Blue on Thu Sep 08, 2011 at 08:20:06 PM EST
    Napolitano? See her response in Comment #5.

    This may sound flip but it really is not.

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    Timeline (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by gyrfalcon on Thu Sep 08, 2011 at 10:48:21 PM EST
    They decided to announce it more specifically after Napolitano had already made her comments.  I bet she's real thrilled about that.

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    More of Napolitano's comments (none / 0) (#14)
    by jbindc on Thu Sep 08, 2011 at 08:24:21 PM EST
    From CNN:

    Earlier Thursday, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano told reporters that intelligence officials had picked up "lots of chatter" on jihadi websites and elsewhere about the impending 10th anniversary of the September 11 terrorist attacks "and we're taking it all seriously," but nothing yet that warranted issuing a threat advisory.

    Nonetheless, the department will be at a heightened level of readiness as the nation commemorates the anniversary, "staffing up" the Federal Air Marshals Service and other agencies, she said.

    "We don't have something that would reach that standard (of a credible threat), but we still have lots of chatter out there. And we take every bit of that seriously and are tracking it down," Napolitano said. "In the intel world, there's lots of chatter, and we're taking it all seriously. And should there be something that rises to the level where I have to issue a threat advisory, we will issue a threat advisory."

    A federal official told CNN's Mike Ahlers that Napolitano was aware of the threat when she made those remarks.

    Napolitano said it is not uncommon to see increased chatter before major events. "We know it's an iconic day to al Qaeda, in part because of what was found at the (Osama bin Laden) compound. So we are preparing accordingly," she said.

    "I don't want to give those (details) out because I don't want to tell the bad guys exactly what we're doing," Napolitano said. "But I think it's fair to say that in addition to asking citizens to be vigilant and so forth, that we have ourselves leaned forward and have made sure that we are doing all that we can from the DHS perspective."



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    This happens all the time (none / 0) (#20)
    by NYShooter on Thu Sep 08, 2011 at 08:35:14 PM EST
    They all get the same information, and then, through the prism of disparate advisors, they interpret it differently. And then, when they brief their different constituencies, they use all kinds of obfuscation, distortion, and misleading information, believing they're "informing," but not too much.

    In other words, I don't think all those on the "list" are given precise instructions on how to disseminate the intel.

    I can't help but remember the night we were told of OBL's killing, Brennan all but wound himself into a rubber band ball twisting, exaggerating, and spinning the news. And I'm saying to myself, "this is the guy first in line with the secret stuff?"


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    I totally (none / 0) (#8)
    by lentinel on Thu Sep 08, 2011 at 07:47:07 PM EST
    agree.

    Fear.

    The incumbent's best friend.

    Get yer duct tape and plastic ready.

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    I hate (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by chrisvee on Thu Sep 08, 2011 at 08:26:51 PM EST
    to be cynical when people's lives may be at risk but I confess to the same thoughts.

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    ok (none / 0) (#15)
    by bocajeff on Thu Sep 08, 2011 at 08:24:36 PM EST
    Let's say they have some information that there will be something happening in NYC this weekend. What kind of panic would ensue? What kind of economic calamity would it cause (I know, who cares about jobs and money), what kind of emotional stress would it cause.

    I live in Florida and people go nuts if a hurricane MAY be headed there way. Hoarding food, max exodus, cats and dogs living together.

    But we're mature enough to handle something so trivial like a threat...

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    It's to the attacker's advantage if we reveal ... (none / 0) (#19)
    by RonK Seattle on Thu Sep 08, 2011 at 08:33:53 PM EST
    ... too clearly what we know - and what we don't know.

    We've probably spilled too much already.

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    That might explain (5.00 / 3) (#3)
    by jbindc on Thu Sep 08, 2011 at 07:29:03 PM EST
    Why approximately 22 white Secret Service/Homeland Security vehicles with lights flashing and sirens screaming kept driving around the streets by where I work at least 3 times this afternoon (I currently work 2 blocks from the White House).

    I thought they were practicing for tonight's speech and forgot where the Capitol was.

    Nah, they are trying to use up their (5.00 / 2) (#4)
    by jeffinalabama on Thu Sep 08, 2011 at 07:33:44 PM EST
    fuel funds before the new fiscal year, or they got too many. One or the other.

    Terrifying people?

    Priceless!

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    Maybe (none / 0) (#11)
    by jbindc on Thu Sep 08, 2011 at 08:19:31 PM EST
    But it's easy to be a little more cynical if you don't live here.  Let's face it - DC IS a target, and there will be tons of people here for 9/11 ceremonies all weekend.  I too, am a little suspicious that this was announced around the same time as the "Greatest Speech on Jobs Evah", but I also don't think terrorists are just misunderstood people who had daddy issues while growing up.

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    Except that the Obama people (none / 0) (#33)
    by gyrfalcon on Thu Sep 08, 2011 at 10:50:09 PM EST
    aren't quite stupid enough to big-foot their big speech with a made-up or exaggerrated terror plot, don't you think?  A goodly chunk of the immediate post-speech yakety-yakety was taken up with the terror thing, and I hugely doubt that's something they wanted.

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    It's exactly what they wanted (none / 0) (#48)
    by talesoftwokitties on Fri Sep 09, 2011 at 09:57:24 AM EST
    Look!  Look over there!  Cause there's nothing here.

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    He was just cracking an (none / 0) (#34)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Sep 08, 2011 at 10:55:08 PM EST
    end of the fiscal year joke.  In the military if they have any money left at this time of year they are spending it like mad because if they didn't need all the money, their budget will be cut back the following year.  If they didn't stash and plan carefully though they would have run out of money before October and be really screwed until their money showed up again in October.

    I'm waiting until October to be reimbursed for travel because they have run out of money to pay me.

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    there is cynicism (none / 0) (#51)
    by CST on Fri Sep 09, 2011 at 10:46:12 AM EST
    and then there is common sense.

    I read this headline and thought "yup".  It's the 10th anniversary of 9/11.  Of course someone is going to plan something bad, I'm sure a few someones are planning something bad.

    I'd be more concerned if they told us nothing was being planned.  Then it would remind me of the actual 9/11 when our government had it's head so far up it's @ss it couldn't see straight.

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    Confusing and IMO (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by MO Blue on Thu Sep 08, 2011 at 07:34:43 PM EST
    contradictory statements in linked article.

    From Homeland Security Department spokesman Matt Chandler:

    "It's accurate that there is specific, credible but unconfirmed threat information," Homeland Security Department spokesman Matt Chandler said in a statement. "As we always do before important dates like the anniversary of 9/11, we will undoubtedly get more reporting in the coming days."

    From Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano:

    Thursday morning, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano told reporters that there was "a lot of chatter" around the anniversary of the attacks but that there was no information about a specific threat.

    O.K. is Chandler correct and there is a specific threat or is Napolitano correct and there is no specific threat?

    Also why am I the one asking this question? Shouldn't AP be clarifying this discreptancy before going to print?

    Asking AP to commit an act (5.00 / 2) (#7)
    by Towanda on Thu Sep 08, 2011 at 07:42:03 PM EST
    of journalism is like -- let's have some fun with fill-in-the-blank -- asking Obama and Congress to commit an act of ____.

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    I am sick of Americans (5.00 / 3) (#23)
    by loveed on Thu Sep 08, 2011 at 09:12:31 PM EST
    being afraid.
     We drop bombs by drones on innocent people. Do you think these people live in fear?
     Were attack by hoodlums, and we change our whole life style.
     Personal freedoms eroded. Citizen searched at a whim. Freedom of speech no longer exist.Phones,computer, cellphones monitor by the government.
     And were worried about terrorist?
     This so called terror warning was announced before his speech. Did he mention it?

     I refuse to live in fear.


    Obama shouldn't seek reelection (5.00 / 2) (#37)
    by hilts on Fri Sep 09, 2011 at 01:32:41 AM EST
    Obama is a nail-biting coward who'd never stood up to Republicans. He's an embarrassment to the Democratic Party and to the office of the President.  He's an empty suit who was never ready to be President.  He should do the right thing by finishing out his term and not seeking re-election.

    I checked the cases of ammo under my bed - (5.00 / 1) (#38)
    by seabos84 on Fri Sep 09, 2011 at 01:46:16 AM EST
    there aren't any furriners hiding under MY bed!

    time to get back to making my own roads, brewing my own gasoline, and planting my own water.

    rmm.

    From (none / 0) (#9)
    by lentinel on Thu Sep 08, 2011 at 07:49:01 PM EST
    what excerpts I have read of Obama's latest oratorical exercise, Jeralyn had better get that pink slip polished and ready to go.

    Hmmm.... (none / 0) (#13)
    by jbindc on Thu Sep 08, 2011 at 08:22:54 PM EST
    A massive power outage in Arizona, California and Nevada with almost 1.5 million people without power.  Nefarious plot or infrastructure problems?

    y money's on infrastructure problems. (5.00 / 2) (#17)
    by caseyOR on Thu Sep 08, 2011 at 08:29:11 PM EST
    One could make the case, though, that our refusal to make necessary upgrades to our electrical grid and such infrastructure components is itself a nefarious plot.

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    They say no (none / 0) (#22)
    by MO Blue on Thu Sep 08, 2011 at 08:50:17 PM EST
    Mike Niggli, chief operating officer of San Diego Gas & Electric Co. ruled out terrorism but said the cause is unclear.
    ...
    He said the utility lost power due to a transmission failure that started at a large switching station in Arizona, where several high-voltage lines come together, although the cause has not been determined.

    "I suspect the system was overwhelmed by too many outages in too many places," Niggli said. link



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    Outgoing flights from San Diego: (none / 0) (#52)
    by oculus on Fri Sep 09, 2011 at 11:00:22 AM EST
    cancelled.  Why:  TSA says it cannot properly screen.  

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    A mistake was made, but the fail safe protocol to (none / 0) (#56)
    by jawbone on Fri Sep 09, 2011 at 02:19:36 PM EST
    keep it limited to only nearby electrical usage FAILED.

    It was supposed to hit only the area around the substation, but that definitely failed.  And that was not due to "human error."  Just overall failure -- or several other human errors.

    Per report this morning on NPR.

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    Heard this morning it was (none / 0) (#42)
    by ruffian on Fri Sep 09, 2011 at 08:28:14 AM EST
    a mistake by a worker that should have only affected Yuma, and then the backup system failed.

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    Ooops, missed your update. (none / 0) (#57)
    by jawbone on Fri Sep 09, 2011 at 02:20:03 PM EST
    OK, time to put away the ... (none / 0) (#18)
    by RonK Seattle on Thu Sep 08, 2011 at 08:29:47 PM EST
    ... shark attack stories.

    From ABC news (none / 0) (#21)
    by MO Blue on Thu Sep 08, 2011 at 08:45:39 PM EST
    U.S. authorities are scrambling to sort through information that the CIA developed in the past 24 hours indicating that at least three individuals entered the U.S. in August by air with the intent to launch a vehicle-borne attack against Washington, D.C. or New York around the anniversary of 9/11, according to intelligence officials.

    Officials say the alleged terror plot was initiated by new al Qaeda chief Ayman al-Zawahiri, Osama bin Laden's successor.

    Intelligence and law enforcement officials told ABC News that at least one of the individuals is a U.S. citizen and one official said that two of the individuals may have had U.S. documentation -- whether green cards or passports was unclear. link

    Who knows what to believe any more.

    So are they tracking said individuals? (none / 0) (#49)
    by talesoftwokitties on Fri Sep 09, 2011 at 10:02:26 AM EST
    Then apprehend them.

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    Ah, yet another reason to be able to assassinate (none / 0) (#58)
    by jawbone on Fri Sep 09, 2011 at 02:21:15 PM EST
    this American citizen....

    Oh, but I do feel so cynical.

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    Vote for Ron Paul (none / 0) (#24)
    by NYShooter on Thu Sep 08, 2011 at 09:39:42 PM EST
    He would do away with all Homeland Security. He said, "leave it up to the airlines." After all, would they not do a better job of protecting 200 million dollar jets than the government?

    He will do away with (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by Politalkix on Thu Sep 08, 2011 at 09:47:30 PM EST
    minimum wage, FEMA, Medicare, SS, environmental regulations, etc also.

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    Well, we certainly can't say he's inconsistent (none / 0) (#26)
    by easilydistracted on Thu Sep 08, 2011 at 10:04:57 PM EST
    Ron Paul is more honest (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by Politalkix on Thu Sep 08, 2011 at 10:19:15 PM EST
    than all his GOP rivals; I like him for that reason (but ofcourse will never vote for him). His libertarianism does not however extend to women's reproductive issues, from what I understand.

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    An "honest" hippocrate (none / 0) (#30)
    by NYShooter on Thu Sep 08, 2011 at 10:23:13 PM EST
    hmmm.

    Not the first, I'm sure

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    Hmm. That's interesting. Any idea why? (none / 0) (#31)
    by easilydistracted on Thu Sep 08, 2011 at 10:23:41 PM EST
    your list barely scratches the surface (none / 0) (#27)
    by NYShooter on Thu Sep 08, 2011 at 10:16:46 PM EST
    should I have used the explanatory <snark> as a suffix?

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    And, Paul .... (none / 0) (#54)
    by KeysDan on Fri Sep 09, 2011 at 11:35:01 AM EST
    will do away with abortion rights and gays.

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    Too bad (none / 0) (#41)
    by jbindc on Fri Sep 09, 2011 at 07:39:53 AM EST
    These threats supposedly talk about car bombs and not airplanes.  Guess Ron Paul would want to make Hertz and Avis responsible too.

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    Not if they are insured. (none / 0) (#43)
    by ruffian on Fri Sep 09, 2011 at 08:29:04 AM EST
    Jeralyn or BTD: please correct the spelling (none / 0) (#28)
    by Anne on Thu Sep 08, 2011 at 10:17:12 PM EST
    of "Specific;" it's got an "r" in it that doesn't belong.

    For some reason, it's got me thinking "pis-ghetti."

    done, thanks (none / 0) (#35)
    by Jeralyn on Fri Sep 09, 2011 at 12:02:47 AM EST
    Pretty glaring error, and I didn't even notice it.

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    WHAT IS IT (none / 0) (#40)
    by NYShooter on Fri Sep 09, 2011 at 05:23:27 AM EST
    WITH THESE SITE VIOLATORS LATELY?

    Jeralyn, would you please blast them off the site....into outer space preferably.

    Thank you.

    You are all wrong (none / 0) (#44)
    by ruffian on Fri Sep 09, 2011 at 08:30:46 AM EST
    I submit Debby Boone's "Torn Between Two Lovers"

    Make that Mary McGregor (none / 0) (#45)
    by ruffian on Fri Sep 09, 2011 at 08:32:12 AM EST
    but it is a close tie with Boone's "You Light Up My Life"

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    Paul Anka? (none / 0) (#47)
    by jbindc on Fri Sep 09, 2011 at 09:26:32 AM EST
    "You're Havin' My Baby"

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    "The Candyman" by Sammy Davis, Jr. (none / 0) (#53)
    by easilydistracted on Fri Sep 09, 2011 at 11:25:54 AM EST
    Creepy song (none / 0) (#55)
    by jbindc on Fri Sep 09, 2011 at 12:42:15 PM EST
    SITE VIOLATOR (none / 0) (#46)
    by gyrfalcon on Fri Sep 09, 2011 at 08:49:59 AM EST


    I agree with all things Air Supply (none / 0) (#50)
    by republicratitarian on Fri Sep 09, 2011 at 10:03:43 AM EST
    I was thinking from a cheesy standpoint that "We built this city" by Starship would have to rank up there.

    Cheesiest video goes to Journey's Separate Ways Worlds Apart. Air guitar and air keyboards galore.

    Site Violator (none / 0) (#61)
    by CoralGables on Sat Sep 10, 2011 at 12:41:51 AM EST


    Site Violator (none / 0) (#62)
    by CoralGables on Sat Sep 10, 2011 at 12:42:10 AM EST