Ed Schultz Hurls Sexist Slur At Laura Ingraham

Via TPM:

MSNBC host Ed Schultz is known for his hyperbolic attacks on Republicans but it looks like he may have crossed the line on his show yesterday by labeling Laura Ingraham a "right wing slut." "President Obama is going to be visiting Joplin, Mo., on Sunday but you know what they're talking about, like this right-wing slut, what's her name?, Laura Ingraham?" he said on his radio show. "Yeah, she's a talk slut. You see, she was, back in the day, praising President Reagan when he was drinking a beer overseas. But now that Obama's doing it, they're working him over."

You know how I know it was sexist? Because if it was a man, he would not use that word.

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    Oh, dear. (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by jbindc on Wed May 25, 2011 at 03:42:25 PM EST

    Oh my (1.00 / 1) (#2)
    by AngryBlackGuy on Wed May 25, 2011 at 03:46:54 PM EST
    C'mon Ed. I completely understood what he meant and am sure it wasn't sexist, but why even go there. Why even put yourself in that position?

    New rule: Only men can be called sluts.


    How about (5.00 / 7) (#4)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed May 25, 2011 at 03:50:08 PM EST
    NOBODY being called a "slut". or a "bitch" or a "ho" or "feminazi" or any of the other demeaning words women are called.

    This is a serious problem on the left as on the right.


    Not that it would be right (5.00 / 3) (#9)
    by jbindc on Wed May 25, 2011 at 04:15:29 PM EST
    But Laura Ingraham should point out that Ed is a big, fat slob who doesn't know when to shut his trap.

    I (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by lentinel on Wed May 25, 2011 at 04:54:06 PM EST
    would love to see that - not that it would be right....

    You wouldn't know sexist (5.00 / 7) (#5)
    by nycstray on Wed May 25, 2011 at 03:50:50 PM EST
    if it rose up and bit you in the a**.

    C'mon pleaseeee AGB (5.00 / 6) (#12)
    by star on Wed May 25, 2011 at 04:41:45 PM EST
    'I completely understood what he meant and am sure it wasn't sexist'

    Really. based on what are you saying this is not sexist? would he have frothed from his mouth in this manner about a man?

    This kind of name calling is the last resort for really mean ,lowdown, culture less people. to hear it on national tv is simply NOT acceptable.

    Do you know how many women are verbally abused day to day with such slurs and what it does to their confidence and morale? I know a few and I refuse to give him a pass simply b'coz he is talking against people I do not like.


    I am not defending him in any way (none / 0) (#33)
    by AngryBlackGuy on Wed May 25, 2011 at 06:40:10 PM EST
    he was wrong and should have known better.  His usage was definitely sexist.  I just think he was trying to be too clever. I think he thought he was changing the context by adding the adjectives before the word ("right wing", "talk").  He miscalculated, but that's what I think happened.

    Now there is a larger conversation about our uses of the N word, B word, etc. and whether the targeted minority (or others) can use the words that's pretty interesting and thought provoking.  I have really progressive female friends who embrace the word slut and the b__ word just as a large cross section of the black people I know let an N word slip out every once in a while. And it would not, IMHO, be incorrect or inappropriate to argue that the government is being downright niggardly (look it up) with stimulus funds, but we have a strange relationship with these words of offense these days. We've lost all ability to see them in any sort of context. Good topic but I don't think this is the forum for it. I have a hard enough time trying to get traction on good debates about economic policy.  No need to further inflame.

    Bottom line is that Schulz should have known that the word slut would be taken in a particular context when used the way that he used it and he should have avoided it.  He deserves what he gets.


    Hmmm, it was either sexist or not (5.00 / 7) (#37)
    by nycstray on Wed May 25, 2011 at 06:53:34 PM EST
    make up your mind

    I completely understood what he meant and am sure it wasn't sexist

    ya can't have it both ways, but nice try at backtracking and rationalizing . . . . not.


    hmmm (5.00 / 2) (#57)
    by sj on Wed May 25, 2011 at 09:58:52 PM EST
    I am not defending him in any way

    ABG says as he continues to defend him.


    I don't (none / 0) (#58)
    by AngryBlackGuy on Wed May 25, 2011 at 10:04:22 PM EST
    Know any other way to say that he was wrong. He was wrong.

    Well, that says it pretty well (none / 0) (#60)
    by sj on Wed May 25, 2011 at 10:18:20 PM EST
    I don't think it is healthy for any woman (none / 0) (#73)
    by Militarytracy on Thu May 26, 2011 at 08:24:42 AM EST
    to "embrace" the word bitch, and I think your characterization of our embracing is way off base. In my experience if we are throwing the word around and calling each other that affectionately, it is an attempt to take back the power and the pain that the word has inflicted upon us in different situations in our pasts.  It is a somewhat passive aggressive way to deal with the pain, not really healthy. It is also a passive aggressive admission that the word is damaging, hurtful, as well as an acknowledgment that we do know it was devised only to place us below men on all ladders and scales and as a throw down to magically take away our rights to express our ideas and feelings and the right to obtain our wishes and desires at any given time.

    You're (5.00 / 2) (#16)
    by lentinel on Wed May 25, 2011 at 04:52:59 PM EST
    sure it wasn't sexist?

    What would it take for you to acknowledge something was racist?


    NO ONE should be called a slut - (5.00 / 3) (#28)
    by Anne on Wed May 25, 2011 at 06:12:51 PM EST
    this isn't one of those deals where it's "okay" as long as it's an equal opportunity slur...

    I am no Laura Ingraham fan, believe me, but there simply is no place for that kind of language, none.  Maybe it doesn't bother you because you're a man, but I can tell you, from a woman's point of view, it never stops being offensive.


    can be =/= would be (none / 0) (#10)
    by huzzlewhat on Wed May 25, 2011 at 04:16:47 PM EST
    The point is, a man wouldn't be called a slut. Not in this context. So yeah, it's sexist.

    So is it sexist (none / 0) (#14)
    by jtaylorr on Wed May 25, 2011 at 04:50:15 PM EST
    to call a man a 'dick'? I've never once in my life heard that term applied to a woman.

    A man (5.00 / 3) (#19)
    by star on Wed May 25, 2011 at 05:12:40 PM EST
    does not get half the things said about a woman. based on what kind of proof does a woman gets labeled a slut? does Ed have receipts from having paid Laura ingram for favors?

    And these same set of fools had the nerve to talk about right wing hate speech when Gifford got shot. Hippocrates the whole lot and anyone making excuses for them. NO ONE deserves to be name called for any reason.


    Ooh, (none / 0) (#22)
    by Nemi on Wed May 25, 2011 at 05:28:46 PM EST
    thats giving those hypocrats far too much credit to liken them to Hippocrates. [Sorry, couldn't help myself. ;)]

    Or hypocrits (none / 0) (#24)
    by Nemi on Wed May 25, 2011 at 05:35:17 PM EST
    Guess the joke's on me now [blushing].

    I'll (5.00 / 2) (#34)
    by star on Wed May 25, 2011 at 06:40:18 PM EST
    keep my share of the joke :-)
    if I could stoop to name calling i'd stick to 'Hippo' part in Ed's context ...but that was an honest typo...
    what can i say...saw red reading the post .. i have seen my good friend become such a shadow of herself due to constant verbal abuse and this was a term used on her on regular basis.. don't need people like Ed or Bill Maher making such terms stylish to use.

    Lol (none / 0) (#32)
    by star on Wed May 25, 2011 at 06:36:52 PM EST
    why "dick" =/= "slut" (5.00 / 3) (#23)
    by huzzlewhat on Wed May 25, 2011 at 05:33:13 PM EST
    Let's unpack this a little. What do you suppose Ed meant by "slut," here? And why choose that word? "Slut" has a specific meaning; it's a derogatory way to refer to someone who involves in loose sexual behavior. "She's such a slut" doesn't mean, "she's a jerk," which is what "dick" is generally used to mean. It has a specific sexual meaning that is rarely aimed at men. In fact, the common usage, when decrying a man's promiscuity, is "man-slut," which helps to clarify things -- a slut is a woman, and you have to add a modifier to make it a masculine term. Basically, what it comes down to is: If you don't like what a man is saying, call him a jerk. If you don't like what a woman is saying, call her a whore.

    If he meant something different (5.00 / 2) (#30)
    by Militarytracy on Wed May 25, 2011 at 06:23:26 PM EST
    other than she is a sexually deviant woman he should have used those words instead.  Unpack that

    I think he meant it as a metaphor (1.00 / 1) (#35)
    by AngryBlackGuy on Wed May 25, 2011 at 06:44:15 PM EST
    that had nothing to do with sex.

    But it was a bad one.


    What about bimbo (none / 0) (#70)
    by Rojas on Thu May 26, 2011 at 07:27:40 AM EST
    is that one okay?

    Just to be sure... (none / 0) (#63)
    by huzzlewhat on Wed May 25, 2011 at 11:17:44 PM EST
    I had a hard time being sure of your response, so I decided to just ask...  I hope you didn't think I was defending Schulz in the slightest.

    Of course slut can = jerk! (1.00 / 1) (#26)
    by jtaylorr on Wed May 25, 2011 at 05:57:13 PM EST
    Do you really think Ed Schultz was trying to say Laura is sexually promiscuous? Do you think he knows anything about her sexual habits?
    Of course not! His brain was just searching for the most explicit word he could find and 'slut' happened to be what came out of his mouth.
    None of this makes it alright to say of course. Calling a woman a slut is never acceptable. All I'm saying is the use of the word 'slut' does necessarily make someone sexist.  
    If Ed had taken even a millisecond to consider his word choice, of course he wouldn't have said it.

    But he *did* say she was sexually promiscuous. (5.00 / 1) (#64)
    by huzzlewhat on Wed May 25, 2011 at 11:23:18 PM EST
    I'm saying that Ed Schulz called Laura Ingrahm a word that means sexually promiscuous. He didn't like what she was saying, so he called her a whore. That's a sexist statement, because he wouldn't have used sexual terms to attack Larry Ingrahm. Does that make Schulz a sexist? Not necessarily. It just makes him someone who made a sexist statement. Good for him for owning it, realizing that it was wrong, and apologizing for it without trying to make excuses or wiggle out of it.

    Or a (none / 0) (#25)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed May 25, 2011 at 05:55:08 PM EST
    "man whore"

    I don't believe whore (none / 0) (#69)
    by Rojas on Thu May 26, 2011 at 07:22:04 AM EST
    in common usage is gender specific anymore. Perhaps it's different in other regions of the country, but I hear it applied to men much more often than women.

    No more crack for you (none / 0) (#29)
    by Militarytracy on Wed May 25, 2011 at 06:21:18 PM EST
    or whatever you are smoking :)  Ed has no business calling any woman a slut just the same as no matter how many times Dr. Laura says the "N" word for whatever reason...it never makes it okay.

    What if a black person (5.00 / 1) (#36)
    by AngryBlackGuy on Wed May 25, 2011 at 06:51:25 PM EST
    uses the N word? Is that OK?

    My all time favorite comedian right now, Louis CK, uses it regularly and I think it is hilarious. Is that OK?

    Two kids down the street, a black one and a white one, call each other the N word because they've known each other since birth and that's just the way they have grown up together. Is that OK if it is OK between them?

    In various neighborhoods in Atlanta where I live, rap music (and its frequent use of the word) is so dominant that white kids call each other the word with affection without even thinking about or seeing a black person.  They have taken it as a term completely separate from its roots.  You can go on youtube and find thousands of white people using it that way. Is that OK?

    As a black person who would be almost ready to fight if a white person said the N word to me in a bar in anger, I still think the answer is yes. All of the situations above are OK with me despite the fact that in certain contexts, I hate the word more than anything.

    It's the reason I think it is silly to outlaw words under all situations.  Why give the word that power.  What matters most is the intent.

    If the argument is that Schulz's intent is sexist, I can't really fight that.  If the argument is that no man who uses the word can ever have any meaning other than a sexist one, I disagree with that.


    Sorry, but you are stretching, ABG (5.00 / 3) (#42)
    by christinep on Wed May 25, 2011 at 07:44:07 PM EST
    Oft times I have been supportive of your remarks when others have yelled & screamed (IMO, some are off-the-mark & responding inappropriately to you on general issues.) But here....

    What he said was wrong. To muddle with excuses, other situations, possible meanings that a mindreader might discern only deepens the matter. In my experience, we all say inappropriate things from time to time. When we do, it is best to acknowledge the mistake or inappropriateness with genuine apology.

    More to the point appropos your remarks: It is one thing when a particular ethnic, gender or racial group agrees to the use of a certain term in certain situations. For instance: I'm half-Polish, and my Polish relatives & I sometimes tell "Polish jokes" to each other...as do other Polish families I know. It is familial; it is not coming from an outside, exogenous source. In the case at hand, the comment was knowingly broadcast over the airwaves to people of all backgrounds. Ed Schultz is not a woman talking with a small group of gal pals, etc. etc.  You know the difference.


    Thats (none / 0) (#52)
    by AngryBlackGuy on Wed May 25, 2011 at 09:25:13 PM EST
    A fair retort christinep. Consider me swayed.

    I guess my response has a lot to do with Imus.  He's a jerk on a lot of levels but I really disagreed with him being fired for his remark.  If you listened to his show every day, you know that he said stuff way worse about Jews, gay people,, white people, women, Hispanics, rich people, etc. That was his schtick.

    Then we all latched onto that comment and away we went. Same with Juan Williams, who I really do think got a completely raw deal.

    I am very sensitive to discrimination and am a proponent of affirmative action, equal pay laws, hate crime protections, the whole nine yards. I just feel that these sorts of events, to some degree, distract us from the real issues underlying the comments.  

    It's the 9/11 mosque situation. At the end of the day, that exposed a lot of hypocrisy and it felt good to be able to rant about the evil mosque haters and their narrow mindedness. And we were right. Just as Schulz's critics are right here. But it feels like our Internet culture distorts the importance of these events. I the past schulz would have apologized, awareness would be raised and we'd move on. Now he must go through a period of atonement that seems out of proportion to the crime. And that lack of proportion further entrenches the very people who most need to hear the message against Schulz's critics.

    But again, that's irrelevant to the question of whether he was wrong, and clearly, as you laid it out, he was.


    Very well said (none / 0) (#72)
    by Militarytracy on Thu May 26, 2011 at 08:01:32 AM EST
    Well said... (none / 0) (#54)
    by kdog on Wed May 25, 2011 at 09:28:03 PM EST
    Schulz was outta line in the context of a short clip, and a gentleman would apologize, certainly.
    I don't know him from a hole in the wall so I have no idea if he's sexist or really really hates Laura Ingraham or wants attention or what.

    I hear ya on intent and context being everything...slang runs pretty raw sometimes.  There are words I choose not to use, and words I try and fail not to use:), some sh*t is just engrained, b*tch and son of a b*tch especially.  But I wouldn't call a woman a b*tch unless she really did me dirty, and I'd likely regret it, but life, work, the law, a dilemma...all the time, guilty as sin, incorrigible.   And I'll yell 'son of a b*tch' when I stub my toe, sometimes to degrade some dude, but not his moms.  That's not cool. No crime, but definitely should be heavily frowned upon by any civilized society.

    It says what it says about Schulz, Noah, everybody...what they say, when they say it, where they say it, who they say it to...and how much one weighs context or intent says what it says about them...let freedom ring.  Be great if everyone was more decent and accomodating and understanding...but there is a time and a place not to be so nice in words, like when some hammerhead breaks even the most tolerant threshold for real winners.

    Hammerhead is always a safe play, knucklehead, or real winner. Show a little creativity ya know:)

    Ah I ramble...The Dude is not a hater of people of asian descent, I can tell ya that much. Am I wrong?


    Kinky Friedman (none / 0) (#68)
    by Rojas on Thu May 26, 2011 at 07:11:31 AM EST
    We saw it in the Texas governors race a few years back. Some Democrats tried to push him out of the race by making the racism charge. All is fair in love and war and all that...
    You're right ABG, context is everything.  

    Look at you ponying up (none / 0) (#71)
    by Militarytracy on Thu May 26, 2011 at 07:59:51 AM EST
    with the same defense that Dr. Laura used :) Well, how did that one work out for her?  And then to have a black man promoting the use of the word by everyone as we still struggle with civil rights issues?  And I live in the South deary, take my word for it....you don't want it to be socially acceptable in the U.S. for everyone to use the "N" word.  As far as whether or not it is okay for black people to call each other that word, I'll go with whatever Bill Cosby has to say about that.

    yeah, "wackjob" (5.00 / 3) (#3)
    by NYShooter on Wed May 25, 2011 at 03:47:21 PM EST
    would've sent the same message, without the unnecessary, sexist tag.

    stoopid, Ed.  

    Ed just made... (none / 0) (#50)
    by Thanin on Wed May 25, 2011 at 09:15:21 PM EST
    profuse, 5 minute apology about this live on his show.  He made absolutely no excuses, took full responsibility for what he said, was explicit in how badly he felt and how abhorrent his comments were, admitted he let his family, friends and listeners down, apologized about 3 times directly to laura, said he tried to contact her directly but wasn't able to get through, though he said he will make a direct apology to her.  

    Ed has helped raise a lot of money for a lot of causes; I'm willing to bet far more than most everyone else on these boards.  That doesn't excuse the stupid, stupid, horrid thing he said, but hasn't everyone said something terrible and benefitted from the compassion of others to move on?


    Good for him. (5.00 / 2) (#56)
    by christinep on Wed May 25, 2011 at 09:41:51 PM EST
    That is what should happen--full, direct, without dragging it out for days. Glad to read your account. Glad to hear that he righted the wrong.

    I agree (5.00 / 1) (#59)
    by sj on Wed May 25, 2011 at 10:10:54 PM EST
    mostly.  The thing is, this isn't really the kind of wrong that can be righted.  The apology was the best that he could do, and he did it.  But once it's out there?  It's still out there.

    But yup, "full, direct and without dragging it out for days".  He did the very best he could do at this point.


    I'd say... (none / 0) (#61)
    by Thanin on Wed May 25, 2011 at 10:25:04 PM EST
    when you take full responsibility for your actions/words, acknowledge and condemn the worst of them, to me that's being an example of the best way to be when our flawed, human nature comes into play.  

    So if it were possible to be perfect then I'd agree with you, but I don't think the question is can this can ever be righted, since everyone has and will at some point fail in some way.  It seems to me the real question is how do you deal with the consequences once the inevitable happens.


    Very true (none / 0) (#62)
    by sj on Wed May 25, 2011 at 11:12:29 PM EST
    I agree with everything you say.  I'm just saying that it can't be unsaid.  The damage is done.  He's doing the very best thing he can now, after the fact.  I recognize that and appreciate it.  While it helps to lay out a path to ... redemption or whatever you want to call it, it still doesn't make it all better.  

    But who knows, maybe she's taking it all in stride.  Maybe she'll play for all it's worth.  She doesn't have much high ground in the ethics area.  I don't know how she's feeling about this.  I can just tell you.  The apology is good.  Very good.  But it can't be unsaid.


    Keep it classy, american news media. (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by tigercourse on Wed May 25, 2011 at 03:53:21 PM EST

    Wow...lost his damn mind (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by Militarytracy on Wed May 25, 2011 at 03:55:06 PM EST
    Said "slut" how many times?

    Ed should apologize (5.00 / 4) (#8)
    by christinep on Wed May 25, 2011 at 04:10:29 PM EST
    Mostly, Ed Schultz has done a lot of good in opposition to the right-wing talk radio so dominant in the field for many years. I give him that. And, many thanks for his push & determination in Wisconsin this past winter/spring.  Now...he should continue to show that he is really Big Ed and issue a simple, straightforward apology even to that most right-wing Ingraham. He should do it without condition & explanation...and then move on to doing good work.

    Agreed. A simple, (none / 0) (#20)
    by KeysDan on Wed May 25, 2011 at 05:14:35 PM EST
    straightforward apology is needed.  None of this Gingrich stuff: if anyone quotes me its a lie.

    Good call. "Verbal diarrhea" (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by oculus on Wed May 25, 2011 at 04:34:08 PM EST
    would have sufficed.  

    That's 99% of what he and his ilk offer, (5.00 / 2) (#13)
    by andgarden on Wed May 25, 2011 at 04:48:55 PM EST
    which is why I don't watch or listen.

    This time it was just particularly offensive.


    Correct. (5.00 / 3) (#15)
    by lentinel on Wed May 25, 2011 at 04:51:33 PM EST
    Ed Schultz uses the same shouting bellowing tone of voice for his show as Limbaugh and other right wing blowhards do.

    So it is not altogether surprising to me that he would blurt out some blowhard macho-man sexist comment in a moment of aroused bravado.

    I really can't stand these guys.

    Totally agree (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by star on Wed May 25, 2011 at 05:15:52 PM EST
    and MSNBC is as obnoxious as FOX is - only on our side of the equation.MSM is really at its lowest in the last 3 or 4 years. I dread the election season coming up (even though i removed cable at home and hardly watch tv) ...

    Maybe his mom will publicly scold (none / 0) (#18)
    by oculus on Wed May 25, 2011 at 04:55:22 PM EST
    him.  See Jonah of the NBA.  

    You of course (none / 0) (#31)
    by CoralGables on Wed May 25, 2011 at 06:28:53 PM EST
    mean Noah ;)

    Noah, Jonah,Job, Esau. Whomever. (5.00 / 3) (#44)
    by oculus on Wed May 25, 2011 at 08:01:02 PM EST
    As always (none / 0) (#46)
    by CoralGables on Wed May 25, 2011 at 08:19:10 PM EST
    you send me scurrying to Google to fully translate your replies. And I thank you for my added Esau knowledge.

    Where have you gone, George Carlin? (5.00 / 1) (#48)
    by diogenes on Wed May 25, 2011 at 08:33:01 PM EST
    "You know how I know it was sexist? Because if it was a man, he would not use that word."

    Oh come on.  Is using the F word as Noah did "sexist" because they don't use it on a man?  Is is racist to call someone a "redneck" because you don't call white people that?  Is it sexist to call a man an SOB because you don't call women that?

    We need George Carlin back to tell us about the new seven words you can't say on TV.

    Wha?? (none / 0) (#66)
    by gyrfalcon on Thu May 26, 2011 at 02:03:37 AM EST
    "Is is racist to call someone a "redneck" because you don't call white people that?"

    I think maybe you need a refresher course in insults. <eyes rolling>


    Ed Schultz apology (5.00 / 2) (#51)
    by hilts on Wed May 25, 2011 at 09:24:04 PM EST
    And I commend you (5.00 / 1) (#55)
    by CoralGables on Wed May 25, 2011 at 09:37:31 PM EST
    for your backtrack.

    Props to you. (none / 0) (#67)
    by gyrfalcon on Thu May 26, 2011 at 02:05:48 AM EST
    Props to him, too.

    Not sure why you were so emphatically sure he'd never do it.  If Chris Matthews and David Shuster and even eventually Don Imus can apologize on air, I'm not sure why Ed Schultz would never be able to.


    I agree with andgarden (none / 0) (#27)
    by samsguy18 on Wed May 25, 2011 at 06:10:31 PM EST
    This guy is very offensive...his ilk helps no one.
    He should apologize

    Suspended for a week (none / 0) (#38)
    by CoralGables on Wed May 25, 2011 at 06:57:03 PM EST
    "MSNBC management met with Ed Schultz this afternoon and accepted his offer to take one week of unpaid leave for the remarks he made yesterday on his radio program," MSNBC said.

    I think fired would have been (5.00 / 1) (#39)
    by itscookin on Wed May 25, 2011 at 07:03:18 PM EST
    more appropriate.

    Interesting that it was his "offer" (5.00 / 2) (#40)
    by nycstray on Wed May 25, 2011 at 07:09:53 PM EST
    Totally interesting to compare (none / 0) (#41)
    by Lena on Wed May 25, 2011 at 07:38:33 PM EST
    this to the Joakim Noah situation... if you apply the Laura Ingraham standard to the Noah kafuffle, you'd get this response from my fellow liberals: "c'mon guys! a f*** is just a bundle of wood used for lighting a fire! Stop imagining things!" or "look, people--the homeys in MY neighborhood call each other f*** all the time as a good-humored jibe! it's totally okay in these modern times!" or "just because I call a person a f*** doesn't mean I'm a homophobe!! No, I love gays! Really I do! I just use it as a general insult on everyone who annoys me..."

    The reactions of my so-called fellow liberals in the Democratic party justifying this kind of moronic phrasing is just the nail in the coffin of my respect for the Democratic party. If Ed Schultz is supposedly the guy standing up for me, god help all the women in the Democratic party (as well as my young daughter, who gets to inherit this Democratic party of rationalizing sexists).

    "Jane, you ignorant slut." (none / 0) (#49)
    by denise k on Wed May 25, 2011 at 08:50:22 PM EST
    All I could think of when I heard about this was the SNL skit with Dan Ackroyd.  I like Ed and dislike Ingraham and think Ed went over the line, but I don't take this seriously.  It is like Ed saying, "Laura, you ignorant slut."  <Cue laugh-track>  See Link

    That joke in the sketch was funny (5.00 / 3) (#53)
    by ruffian on Wed May 25, 2011 at 09:27:23 PM EST
    Because it would never happen on the air.

    Not funny in this situation.


    It wasn't funny then. (none / 0) (#75)
    by itscookin on Thu May 26, 2011 at 01:44:08 PM EST
    Can't stand Laura Ingraham (none / 0) (#74)
    by jbindc on Thu May 26, 2011 at 01:33:48 PM EST
    But she showed a whole lot more class than old Eddie

    "Ed Schultz: Apology accepted," Ingraham tweeted on Thursday morning.

    And she talked about it on her radio show:

    "I thought so little about it, I didn't even mention it yesterday," she said his comments were "not all that nice, to say the least." But, "he apologized, and I accept his apology. It seemed heartfelt, it seemed like he really wished he hadn't said it, and I accept the apology... I wish him the best. I wish his family the best."

    You Know You F'ed Up (none / 0) (#77)
    by ScottW714 on Fri May 27, 2011 at 11:58:12 AM EST
    When Ingraham shows more class that you.

    Grow Up Schultz (none / 0) (#76)
    by ScottW714 on Fri May 27, 2011 at 11:56:36 AM EST
    The thing is we all use them amongst friends, but on TV/radio I don't want to hear it.

    Even here, myself included, language is used to demean people, BushCo, Mittens, whatever, but not from the hosts, it's unprofessional whether it was sexist or just stupid.

    I like the no swearing policy here, no because it's offensive, but because well thinking people don't need to use to make a point, just as Ed could have made the same point without the slur.

    And for the record, I call friends, male and female, B's and Dheads, don't use the S word much.  But my audience knows it's in jest, to be funny, not hurtful.  But when you audience doesn't know, aka strangers, then why risk it.

    S and B seem obvious, but what about terms said that are gray, is pansy, sissy, cry/fight like a girl, or the whole host of other insults people used that are clearly coming from the point of view that women are weaker, OK ?  I don't think so, but I hear them all the time, doubt you can watch a sporting event w/o at least 5 of them, ditto for sitcoms.

    I completely agree (5.00 / 1) (#78)
    by jbindc on Fri May 27, 2011 at 12:26:15 PM EST
    I like the no swearing policy here, no because it's offensive, but because well thinking people don't need to use to make a point,

    I've always thought that about some comedians -Eddie Murphy had me rolling in his stand up routines "Delirious" and "Raw" but I think he would have been so much funnier if he halved the number of times he dropped the f-bomb.

    To me - anyone who has to use an overabundance of swear or scatalogical terms or put downs, really has a limited imagination and vocabulary.