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Dream Act Reintroduced in Congress

By Jeralyn, Section Civil Liberties
Posted on Wed May 11, 2011 at 11:27:36 AM EST
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The ACLU reports the Dream Act has been reintroduced in Congress.

The DREAM Act would provide affordable post-secondary education and military service opportunities for young undocumented immigrants who came to the U.S. as children, have lived here for at least five years and have graduated from high school....The reintroduced bill includes a critical provision that would restore states’ authority to determine students’ residency for purposes of higher education benefits, a provision that was removed from the bill voted on by the last Congress.

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    This sounds really good (none / 0) (#1)
    by kdm251 on Wed May 11, 2011 at 01:12:30 PM EST
    This seems like a common sense bill.  I hope it passes.
    They've only been debating it... (none / 0) (#2)
    by kdog on Wed May 11, 2011 at 01:14:56 PM EST
    for what seems like an eternity....lame, but better late than never if it finally gets done.

    One less stain on our warped and cruel immigration/deportation policies would be most welcomed.

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    Anything short of immediately deporting (none / 0) (#12)
    by ruffian on Wed May 11, 2011 at 03:53:05 PM EST
    everyone here without papers gets labeled 'amnesty!' by the GOP and gets filibustered.

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    Sh*t... (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by kdog on Wed May 11, 2011 at 04:00:07 PM EST
    even if ya got their precious papers in order, they howl "forgery!" or "anchor baby!".

    Papers or no papers, its just too brown for some people's liking around here I suspect...and they will make others suffer for these inevitable demographic changes.

    Me thinks they should chill with the "papers please" and concentrate on gettin' busy makin' pale babies, if they wanna actually change the demographics...babies are prettier than jackboots, if nothing else:)

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    What are the (none / 0) (#3)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed May 11, 2011 at 02:20:27 PM EST
    chances of it passing? I wouldn't think there would be any chance of it happening with the GOP controlling congress.

    slim to none (none / 0) (#5)
    by ruffian on Wed May 11, 2011 at 03:04:02 PM EST
    GOP is filibustering

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    Just (none / 0) (#6)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed May 11, 2011 at 03:10:14 PM EST
    what I figured: it's another Kabuki theater performance by Obama. He can know go out and advocate for it because he knows it won't pass.

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    Does this fire up the base? (none / 0) (#7)
    by oculus on Wed May 11, 2011 at 03:11:49 PM EST


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    I think the "base"... (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by kdog on Wed May 11, 2011 at 03:14:47 PM EST
    is burnt out.

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    Here are responses from a members of (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by MO Blue on Wed May 11, 2011 at 05:19:40 PM EST
    the targeted base.

    For example, Marissa Graciosa of the Fair Immigration Reform Movement acknowledged the long odds of the DREAM Act, but called for the President to stop the deportations of DREAM-eligible undocumented students. There is evidence to believe that student deportations have been de-emphasized in favor of undocumented convicts, but students who had no say in moving to America still face the threat of deportation every day while they go to school or work. Graciosa said, "President Obama can and should give ICE clearer guidelines as to where our laws should be tempered by fairness and DREAM students allowed to live free of fear of deportation." She admitted this would be a stopgap solution, but an important one to show the commitment to giving students who only know life as Americans and want to contribute to America a chance.

    Another group, Presente

    Today there are literally tens of thousands of young men and women facing deportation because the DREAM Act isn't law. ....
    The President has the power to help. He can issue an executive order to stop the deportation of DREAMers until we get that legislation passed. And if he's serious about immigration reform, that's exactly what he should do. link



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    Probably (none / 0) (#9)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed May 11, 2011 at 03:18:34 PM EST
    initially but then when they realize that there's no chance of it passing I guess they will be demoralized.

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    The predictable reaction here (none / 0) (#39)
    by Politalkix on Thu May 12, 2011 at 05:50:05 PM EST
    vindicates the decision of the President not to even bring a single payer plan to the table. It had zero chance of passing and would have been seen as a kabuki move that would demoralize people who wanted it.
    Can't have it both ways folks....can't complain about the President for not bringing up a plan that had zero chance of passing and then complain again for trying to get DREAM act passed (because some here believe that it has zero chance of passing).
    unless cronic complaining about BHO is your hobby.....

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    Has he been "vindicated" ... (5.00 / 0) (#40)
    by Yman on Thu May 12, 2011 at 05:58:26 PM EST
    ... for promising us a public option after making a backroom deal with the insurance lobbyists to take it off the table?

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    If you (none / 0) (#41)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu May 12, 2011 at 06:01:21 PM EST
    had paid attention to what I have said you wouldn't even be saying that.

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    Major audience (none / 0) (#14)
    by christinep on Wed May 11, 2011 at 04:47:51 PM EST
    Hispanic voters...especially so if Repubs persist in disregarding demographics, etc. An important part of that major audience--read: makes a difference in voter turnout in Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada (even Texas is in the pragmatic mix; as is Florida) and that difference has a good probability of delivering electoral votes in those battleground states in 2012.

    IMO. The timing is good, the cause is good...and the inexorable outcome looks good as well.

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    Here's some insight from a (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by Anne on Thu May 12, 2011 at 09:12:44 AM EST
    Latino member of Congress:

    He will also argue that those who care about this issue need to step up pressure on Congress to act, a point he has made privately in a string of meetings with business executives, evangelical leaders and Hispanic celebrities.

    Some advocates of an immigration bill aren't on board the White House's new push. Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D., Ill.) said Friday that he won't raise expectation in the Latino community that immigration legislation will pass when it won't.

    "The moment to use pressure is gone," he said. "I'm not going to be disingenuous with the public...It's not going to happen." [...]

    Link

    And here are some thoughts from David Dayen:

    A few things here. First of all, Gutierrez is right. This is a 2012 ploy and a cynical one at that, to suggest that a few rallies will flip Republicans with longstanding beliefs and activists of their own on the other side of the issue. Second, it's not like immigrant rights groups didn't try all of this before. I remember undocumented students getting arrested for sit-ins at Congressional offices during the DREAM Act debate last year. And I don't remember them getting a lot of support from the President on that.

    But what leaps out at me is this call for "outside pressure" from the White House to pass a favored piece of the agenda. This is certainly a new concept! After all, the White House threatened to expel MoveOn from their Common Purpose meetings if they pressured Blue Dogs into voting for health care. I believe the phrase thrown around was "fucking retarded." In fact, during the health care debate practically all of these outside pressure moves were frowned upon. But now that we're back in election season, change begins from the bottom up again.

    Only this is completely backwards. Progressive organizations have leverage over, or at least an audience with, Democratic lawmakers. They certainly have a greater audience there than over Republicans. The time to use outside pressure is when Democrats are the ones holding up the agenda.

    Don't get me wrong - this is legislation that absolutely needs to get done, but how many times can the hopes of Latino voters be toyed with before they decide that the Dems' version of quid pro quo isn't working for anyone but the politicians?

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    As a hispanic voter, (none / 0) (#18)
    by sj on Wed May 11, 2011 at 05:18:21 PM EST
    I think this is a step in the right direction.  But every journey starts with that first step.

    Personally, I'm not too sure about that inexorable part.  Unless you're thinking in terms of generations as opposed to the 112th Congress.

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    Yes, sj...the timing is the thing (none / 0) (#31)
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