Sunday Night Open Thread

Sorry, I've been caught up in the Grammy's. Here's an open thread for other topics.

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    Somebody turned "At Least 11" today :) (5.00 / 5) (#2)
    by nycstray on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 11:15:27 PM EST
    My "baby" who keeps me entertained and on my toes :)

    Happy Birthday to him/her! (none / 0) (#19)
    by ruffian on Mon Feb 14, 2011 at 08:49:01 AM EST
    What an adorable 'baby' you have! Looks pretty lively.

    is the name (none / 0) (#22)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Feb 14, 2011 at 08:53:16 AM EST
    Yin or Yang?
    beautiful for 77   or for 7 even

    Happy B'day, Miss Dot!! (none / 0) (#28)
    by vml68 on Mon Feb 14, 2011 at 11:23:59 AM EST
    Obama admin offers to cut Pell Grants (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by jeffinalabama on Mon Feb 14, 2011 at 07:50:07 AM EST
    $8 Billion next year, $60 billion over the next ten. No sumer pell grants for students.

    So... this isnt a neutal move, it will cause hardships for many poorer Community College and College students.

    90 percent of Pell recipients come from families making 41k or less.

    I think Robert Reich says it best: (5.00 / 5) (#18)
    by Anne on Mon Feb 14, 2011 at 08:39:44 AM EST
    President Obama has chosen to fight fire with gasoline.

    Today (Monday) Obama pours gas on the Republican flame by proposing a 2012 federal budget that cuts the federal deficit by $1.1 trillion over 10 years. About $400 billion of this will come from a five-year freeze on non-security discretionary spending - including all sorts of programs for poor and working-class Americans, such as heating assistance to low-income people and community-service block grants. Most of the rest from additional spending cuts, such as grants to states for water treatment plants and other environmental projects and higher interest charges on federal loans to graduate students.

    That means the Great Debate starting this week will be set by Republicans: Does Obama cut enough spending? How much more will he have cut in order to appease Republicans? If they don't get the spending cuts they want, will Tea-Party Republicans demand a shut-down?

    Framed this way, the debate invites deficit hawks on both sides of the aisle to criticize Democrats and Republicans alike for failing to take on Social Security and Medicare entitlements. Expect Erskine Bowles and Alan Simpson, co-chairs of Obama's deficit commission, to say the President needs to do more. Expect Alice Rivlin and Paul Ryan, respectively former Clinton hawk and current Republican budget hawk, to tout their plan for chopping Medicare.

    It's the wrong debate about the wrong thing at the wrong time.

    Cuts to Pell Grants.  Cuts to low-income energy assistance.  Cuts to programs for low-income women and children's nutrition programs.  Cuts to community assistance block grants.

    Notice anything missing?  Like some kind of contribution from individuals in the only sector of the American economy that has anything to spare, perhaps?

    This whole thing is going to be a one-two punch to the gut of the economy: first, the cuts in spending to get us through the year, and then the cuts for the coming fiscal year.  With Obama practically wetting his pants to show how "serious" he is about fiscal restraint and responsibility, what I am expecting is a race to see who can cut the most, with the loser being, you know, us.

    I have such a bad feeling about what's ahead, especially because, as long as the stock market is up and corporate profits are up, it will all be deemed a success, even if the pain and sacrifice exacted by these policies continues to lower the quality of life of way too many people.


    This is HORRIBLE policy (5.00 / 6) (#20)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Feb 14, 2011 at 08:50:30 AM EST
    Don't try to Win the phucking Future with my blood, sweat, and tears ever again Obama Administration!  Our students already pay more for an education than anyone on the globe, so doing this sort of thing will only put the United States further behind if you are really selling that bullsnot about how far behind we are falling so we must all pull together and support each other and this administration.

    This makes me furious.  This is on the same level of totally screwing the people of the United States over as jacking their Social Security up too.  This is what happens when we save banks by trying to cover up massive insolvency.  The backdoor bailout of Wall Street continues via the Fed degrading the worth of a dollar, so people who save now have their efforts made worthless, and people who paid into Social Security now have their efforts made worthless twice over because the fight to cut the benefits is not over and when they get those benefits they are worth much less, and now the young of our nation aren't just unemployed for a decade but they will have their ability to be educated even more degraded.  I'm flat out furious!  AGAIN!

    Anybody feel like going Egyptian yet? Probably not, we haven't had to live on $2 a day for a long while now.  It is going to take more hardship before Americans snap out of it and snap.  In the meantime, the top of the American food chain remains hale and flush.  Everyone else can go pound sand.


    Maybe the schools will (none / 0) (#26)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Feb 14, 2011 at 10:11:26 AM EST
    offer to cut prices??

    We're just not cutting enought (none / 0) (#27)
    by Harry Saxon on Mon Feb 14, 2011 at 10:21:17 AM EST
    taxes for the rich.

    Was checking out the new Dkos (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Feb 14, 2011 at 08:32:39 AM EST
    I see that you can log-in under your twitter or facebook too.  There is no way I would connect via anything so personal these days.  

    Nope, me neither (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by ruffian on Mon Feb 14, 2011 at 08:52:54 AM EST
    My political rants aren't worth anyhting....I need my job.

    Film Question (none / 0) (#1)
    by hilts on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 11:12:53 PM EST

    I recently saw the film William Kunstler: Disturbing the Universe, a great documentary about Kunstler's career.  Was curious to know if you've seen the film and, if so, what you thought of it. Also curious to know your opinion of Kunstler in general.

    Oh, no: At least 100 artifacts, after all (none / 0) (#3)
    by Towanda on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 11:44:34 PM EST
    in the Egyptian Museum in Cairo were severely damaged -- or outright stolen, such as many priceless statues, including one of boy king Tut.

    So much for those who claimed that there was not looting, that it was an unfounded rumor; it just was not looting by anti-regime protesters, as we know  And inventory continues, so losses may be worse.  So sad, loss of artifacts that have been prized and preserved for thousands of years.  Another strike against Mubarak, encouraging thugs.

    Assuming decent cataloging, it should (none / 0) (#4)
    by oculus on Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 11:56:45 PM EST
    be pretty difficult to sell these artifacts.  

    I don't know (none / 0) (#7)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Feb 14, 2011 at 06:54:11 AM EST
    Is there a black market for those kinds of artifacts? I seem to recall items stolen from a museum in Boston years ago have never shown up anywhere.

    the problem is (5.00 / 2) (#8)
    by nyjets on Mon Feb 14, 2011 at 07:15:58 AM EST
    Many of these artifacts wind up in the hands of private collectors and will only be seen by private collectors. The private collector has no desire to show off there babbles and content with the knowledge that they have the item. Odds are, most of these items will never be seen for some time.

    no one with a clue said there was no looting (none / 0) (#12)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Feb 14, 2011 at 08:16:44 AM EST
    what they said was the the democracy demonstrators stopped it.  or helped to stop it.

    and they did.


    Music (none / 0) (#9)
    by dead dancer on Mon Feb 14, 2011 at 07:20:08 AM EST
    Boston Globe (none / 0) (#11)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Mon Feb 14, 2011 at 08:11:06 AM EST
    laughable (5.00 / 2) (#13)
    by Dadler on Mon Feb 14, 2011 at 08:21:25 AM EST
    truly laughable. GWB initiated mass murder, nothing more.  and america has NO intention of letting the people of the middle east truly decide their own fate, you and I both know that.  so here in the states we are still all children with our heads in the sand pretending our mass murder was somehow a beautiful act of liberation.  

    truly, astoundingly, inexusably phucking stupid beyond all measure.

    mubarak was OUR tyrant, we loved him. bush loved him. to even suggest dubya did ANYthing to help egypt is disgusting.  


    Too bad the Israelis (none / 0) (#14)
    by Harry Saxon on Mon Feb 14, 2011 at 08:22:10 AM EST
    don't have the same attitude towards the possibility of Egyptian democracy.

    00:05:53    >> Richard, during the 18 days and especially today, how was information passed so that people knew exactly where they stood in terms of what was unfolding in egypt, and it is my sense, I could be wrong from where I'm sitting, but it is my sense that the information that the crowd had at any given time was generally true at that time.

    00:06:15    This doesn't seem to be a story of different rumors rifling through the crowd and changing momentum through false rumors as the story developed.

    00:06:26    >> There were lots and lots and lots of rumors, thousands of rumors.

    00:06:31    But there was a correcting process that is much faster now, so a rumor would come out, and because of social networking sites or different media sites, it would quickly be countered or shut down by competing statements.

    00:06:46    So there wasn't a persistent rumor that would offset, put the movement off track a day or two like we've seen in political movements in the past.

    00:06:56    People were communicating mostly by cell phone.

    00:06:59    That was the overwhelming source of communications and information distribution.

    00:07:05    And I remember there was this one image in tahrir square, people were pulling the electrical cables out of the lampposts and plugging them into extension cords so that they could plug in dozens of cell phones at a time.

    00:07:19    In tahrir square, they set up a little bit of a media center where people would come in, exchange information and use their cell phones to get out the latest information.
    00:07:31    When they thought that the cell phones weren't safe or that the cell phone messages weren't safe, they would switch to twitter.

    00:07:39    Then when twitter messages were compromised, they would switch to facebook.

    00:07:44    So there was a very sophisticated use of information, but those would be the three.

    00:07:48    Cell phones the biggest, twitter and facebook the other two.

    00:07:51    And then of course, when the government shut it down, people just started talking to each other.

    00:08:00    >> One of the eye ronnies may be that tahrir square became the center of this movement in part because the government shut down communication.

    00:08:07    I was speaking with a demonstrator, she said the day the government tried to stop people from getting together and organizing online is when they cut off communication.

    00:08:20    Because people didn't know exactly where to go, they all converged on tahrir square, which is in the center of the city, and it was that gathering of people which created such momentum, it created that iconic image that helped drive this revolution forward.

    That's mostly what drove the Egyptian Revolution.


    I saw that (none / 0) (#16)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Feb 14, 2011 at 08:25:19 AM EST
    sort of ironically clueless that they could be said to have concentrated and focused the student demonstrations to something much more important.

    Peggy has many valentines (none / 0) (#15)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Feb 14, 2011 at 08:23:06 AM EST
    The Dubious Romantic Messages (none / 0) (#23)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Feb 14, 2011 at 09:05:45 AM EST
    of 1980's 'Super Friends' Valentines

    everything old is new again.  what could be more perfect for the new century than valentines that offer threats of stalking and violence.

    Iranian protest (none / 0) (#24)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Feb 14, 2011 at 09:09:08 AM EST
    Live Blog

    getting interesting

    weapons of Mass Effect (none / 0) (#25)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Feb 14, 2011 at 09:11:46 AM EST
    if he isnt talking about the game it is rather surprising this has not been more widely reported

    `Correct. Weapons of mass effect,' said Mr Hallor.

    `You ever found one?' asked Mr Blacher.

    `Not at this location,' Mr Hallor said.

    `But they have found them?' asked Mr Blacher.

    `Yes,' said Mr Hallor.

    `You never found one in San Diego though?' Mr Blacher asked.

    `I would say at the port of San Diego we have not,' Mr Hallor said.

    `Have you found one in San Diego?' Mr Blacher asked.

    The interview was then interrupted and cut short by a public relations official before Mr Hallor was able to answer the question.