White House Threatens Veto of Defense Bill Over Indefinite Detention Provisions

The White House is threatening to veto the defense spending bill over the House-Senate compromise on indefinite detention.

More here and here.

Congress passed a temporary funding bill today to avoid a government shutdown.

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    SiTE VIOLATOR (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by caseyOR on Thu Nov 17, 2011 at 09:19:25 PM EST
    I think.

    Flattery will get him nowhere (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by ruffian on Thu Nov 17, 2011 at 10:14:33 PM EST
    Weird: A French Mortgage calculator (none / 0) (#5)
    by Mr Natural on Thu Nov 17, 2011 at 11:08:20 PM EST
    I wish I could take the administration's (5.00 / 3) (#3)
    by Anne on Thu Nov 17, 2011 at 09:20:07 PM EST
    position as a positive sign, but I think I'm with Marcy Wheeler on this one:

    The response is a mixed bag. I'm grateful that the President thinks it's a bad idea to have the military patrol our streets, particularly on days when a bunch of men who look and act like the military are cracking down on First Amendment activities.

    But at the same time, one of the Administration's complaints here is that Congress wants to impose a definition of detainee on them, when they've had OLC do so already in secret. Given that the latter is probably more expansive, it seems that may be why they want to keep it that way.

    So it's a stance against the increasing militarization of the courts. But a squishy self-serving one.

    Nothing is ever as it seems with these people, so I've learned never to take anything at face value.

    Currently we allow Afghanistan (none / 0) (#6)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Nov 18, 2011 at 02:57:06 AM EST
    to handled many people who are arrested that are suspected of having Al Qaeda ties.  They are often subject to Afghanistan's legal system and not our military's.  If we had to detain and be responsible for all arrests made that have "suspected" Al Qaeda ties we will probably need to build more facilities in Afghanistan and also will probably never be able to leave in the near future, because if we chose not to be responsible for some individuals and later they did produce some sort of terrorist act we are on the hook for that I would think under this wording.

    WTF ? (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by ScottW714 on Fri Nov 18, 2011 at 09:44:22 AM EST
    Liberals mocked a provision blocking Obama administration efforts to prod schools to put healthier foods on their lunch menus, including a proposal to no longer consider the tomato paste on pizza to be a vegetable

    Beyond the fact that this is in Defense Bill, beyond the laughable notion that pizza is a vegetable, tomatoes are fruit. Yet the the frozen pizza lobby got them classified as a vegetable.  Unbelievable.

    Reacting to that criticism, House Republicans had urged USDA to rewrite the standards in a bill passed in June. The Senate last month voted to block the potato limits in its version, with opposition to the restrictions led by potato-growing states. Neither version of the bill included the latest provisions on tomato paste, sodium or whole grains; House and Senate negotiators added those in the last two weeks as they put finishing touches on the legislation.

    Back in the day they didn't care, now they care, but the results are the same because somehow special interest are so powerful they can alter the meaning of words and get their legislation attached to other legislation.

    It's like they don't even try to pretend anymore that they aren't greedy swines who care more about special interest then, in this case, kids health.

    A replay of Reagan's ketchup (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by christinep on Fri Nov 18, 2011 at 03:03:02 PM EST