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Prediction: Cain Will Be Clarifying That He Is Anti-Choice

Mediate reports on Herman Cain's statements on abortion rights to CNN's Piers Morgan:

[I]tís not the governmentís role ó or anybody elseís role ó to make that decision. Secondly, if you look at the statistical incidents, youíre not talking about that big a number. So what Iím saying is, it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make. Not me as president. Not some politician. Not a bureaucrat. It gets down to that family. And whatever they decide, they decide. I shouldnít try to tell them what decision to make for such a sensitive decision.

Rick Perry is smiling today.

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    He has already said a few times (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by Jeralyn on Thu Oct 20, 2011 at 08:24:25 AM EST
    that he opposes abortion even in cases of rape and incest.

    From the linked interview with Piers Morgan, here's what he said about gays:

    First, Morgan asked Cain about his thoughts concerning homosexuality. Cain explained that, because of his religious beliefs, he believes that homosexuality is a sin in addition to considering it a choice

    If he doesn't believe the President should get involved, that means he won't exert any influence when states ban abortion or gay marriage.

    We've had numerous governors who say they are personally opposed to the death penalty, but as an elected official, will carry it out. And they do.

    He sounds more and more like a  nut job to me.

    Opposes is not the (none / 0) (#16)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Oct 20, 2011 at 08:41:55 AM EST
    same as being anti-choice.

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    On Meet the Press last Sunday (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by Jeralyn on Thu Oct 20, 2011 at 08:31:43 AM EST
    Cain Said:

    "I believe in life from conception and I do not agree with abortion under any circumstances."
    "Exceptions for rape and incest," David Gregory.
    "Not for rape and incest...

    "What about life of the mother," Gregory.

    "If you look at rape and incest the percentage of those instances are so miniscule that there are other options. If it's the life of the mother that family is going to have to make that decision."



    Whiplash (none / 0) (#26)
    by TexDem on Thu Oct 20, 2011 at 11:52:08 AM EST
    I so long for the day when subjects like (5.00 / 2) (#19)
    by Anne on Thu Oct 20, 2011 at 09:18:33 AM EST
    abortion are just not a part of the political conversation; I doubt I will ever see such a thing in my lifetime.

    As for Herman Cain, how much longer is he going to have any relevance?  Last night, I unwittingly was treated to clips from the debate - or as I have come to think of these exercises, "Cavalcade of Clowns, Part ___" -  that were shown on the network news last night.  Wait, I'm gagging...

    Okay...Holy Mother of God, these are the people who want to lead the nation?  They do make Obama look better, for sure, but the bottom line is that our political system is just completely broken.  Completely.

    I'm convinced the eventual nominee will be Romney; one seemingly sane candidate going up against the adult-in-the-room will be more of a contest than if the GOP nominee is anyone else.

    And since I am convinced that the adult-in-the-room will be playing "I'm a better Republican than the Republican," anything remotely left-of-center will just not even be a part of the discussion.  Well, exceot for the occasional quiet nod to OWS that will take the form of "I understand your pain."  Not "feel," mind you, but "understand."  

    Compeletely broken, utterly depressing.  And over a year to go.

    Blech.

    If we could have the real conversation (none / 0) (#22)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Oct 20, 2011 at 09:41:05 AM EST
    about abortion things would change.  You can't have that on television though, that kind of ugly.  I do everything I can to ignore my conservative friends facebook posts but sometimes I just can't.  And after that stupid abortion restriction House vote one of my friends put the picture of the fetus up and something about the precious fetus and think about that Liberals. I could not contain myself any longer.

    I commented that for Conservatives each child is precious until it is born, and that our current Conservatives take much pride in making children struggle, hurt, suffer, and be hungry.  I just couldn't quit there.  I had to add that of course Joshua is very disabled and his father is an active duty soldier and because Tricare is underwritten by the for profits I must spend my life fighting them for everything he needs.  I ended it by posting that when Conservatives have their way, being born is the last great thing that can happen to you in America now.

    It felt so good, but immediately after hitting send I thought I was really going to get it now.  I was going to be told off, unfriended....and good because with friends like that who needs enemies.  But nothing, no unfriending, no attack, just crickets.

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    Agreed. It will be a long time (none / 0) (#23)
    by KeysDan on Thu Oct 20, 2011 at 10:39:21 AM EST
    before subjects like abortion will not be a part of the political discourse.  For some Republicans, cultural issues are required since they, fundamentally, do not support government programs that are, in large measure, viewed as underserving bailouts or welfare.

    Government should stay out of their business, including no messing with their Medicare.  Inconsistencies are not noted or not observed. However, that philosophy of government does not translate well to campaigns--for example, a bumper sticker that sports "vote for me and I promise to  do nothing", does not have a good electoral ring.  Hence, it is important to change the subject.

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    If he says that he was just joking (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by Towanda on Thu Oct 20, 2011 at 10:45:38 AM EST
    about women's lives, I hereby promise to pray, for the first time, for bad things to happen to someone. . . .

    Cain's view on abortion is mine, too (none / 0) (#1)
    by itscookin on Thu Oct 20, 2011 at 07:58:12 AM EST
    I hope he doesn't step it back. He's the first politician to voice my views on abortion. While I would never have had an abortion myself, I support every other woman's right to make that choice for herself. And I speak from a position that is not hypothetical. Cain is not my choice to be POTUS, but I appreciate that he has voiced the right position for the government to take - it's not a decision for the government to make. It's intensely personal.

    Wait a couple of hours. (5.00 / 4) (#5)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Oct 20, 2011 at 08:17:42 AM EST
    if that long. (5.00 / 2) (#18)
    by cpinva on Thu Oct 20, 2011 at 09:17:18 AM EST
    By this afternoon (none / 0) (#25)
    by TexDem on Thu Oct 20, 2011 at 11:48:59 AM EST
    ol' Herman will have revised his statements clarifying he really meant that no one should have an abortion. Saying if he said that last night he really didn't mean what he said until he read what he had said and his handlers told him he couldn't hold that position.

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    I saw this last night (none / 0) (#2)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Oct 20, 2011 at 08:00:36 AM EST
    We were doing other things around the house and it was droning in the background, but when Herman Cain was saying all this my husband got excited about Cain being Pro-Choice.  I refused to get excited.  Can it turn out any more leftylicous than his closing of Gitmo turned out?

    Heh, oops (none / 0) (#3)
    by andgarden on Thu Oct 20, 2011 at 08:11:32 AM EST


    As I said (none / 0) (#4)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Oct 20, 2011 at 08:17:24 AM EST
    Cain has no chance.

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    True, he does not, but any minute the attention (none / 0) (#6)
    by ruffian on Thu Oct 20, 2011 at 08:23:33 AM EST
    is on him and not Rick Perry is a more pleasant minute for me. At least he does not grate on my last nerve.

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    Of course he doesn't (none / 0) (#10)
    by andgarden on Thu Oct 20, 2011 at 08:26:21 AM EST
    He's so bad at politics... (none / 0) (#7)
    by kdog on Thu Oct 20, 2011 at 08:23:56 AM EST
    which might make him the best person for the job, amongst the contenders, Obama included.

    Only half kidding, unfortunately.

    Imagine a Herman Cain type, only advocating for common people instead of the country club set...I'd vote for such a person.

    I imagine Herman Cain (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by Jeralyn on Thu Oct 20, 2011 at 08:25:35 AM EST
    will advocate only for those who go to church.

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    The Church of Wall St? lol (none / 0) (#14)
    by kdog on Thu Oct 20, 2011 at 08:36:05 AM EST
    Is he a holy roller too? I guess ya gotta be in the GOP, but he hasn't struck me as over the top, and this statement is gonna haunt him at church.

    I'd just like to see a liberal who is as awful at politics as cain in 2016, or a third liberal option in 2012, so awful at politics they actually tell you how they really think.

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    Never mind... (none / 0) (#15)
    by kdog on Thu Oct 20, 2011 at 08:38:16 AM EST
    I'm an idiot...I forgot about his previous seriously anti-choice statements.

    He's not as bad at politics as I thought...framing answers to a particular audience, running for office 101.

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    Our greatest Presidents (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by cal1942 on Thu Oct 20, 2011 at 11:22:31 PM EST
    were superb politicians.

    The candidates that deny they're politicians are the most cynical of liars.  

    If Cain isn't a  politician:

    1.  How did he become a CEO?

    2.  Running for office means the candidate has become a politician.  There's no way out of that.


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    "Listen.... (none / 0) (#29)
    by kdog on Fri Oct 21, 2011 at 08:36:23 AM EST
    I'm a politician which means I'm a cheat and a liar, and when I'm not kissing babies I'm stealing their lollipops."

    I see your point cal.

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    Quite Already (none / 0) (#11)
    by ScottW714 on Thu Oct 20, 2011 at 08:27:57 AM EST
    He walked this back almost before he said it.

    From Sunday.

    He wants to reverse Roe vs Wade and no exceptions for rape of incest.

    Wow. This guy is all over the (none / 0) (#17)
    by brodie on Thu Oct 20, 2011 at 09:03:39 AM EST
    place.  I doubt he's aware of the glaring contradictions in his positions.  Just seems to be winging it, saying the first thing that pops into his head.

    Please Repubs, nominate this guy or at least put him in the ticket in the VP slot.

    Clarification (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by ScottW714 on Thu Oct 20, 2011 at 09:33:44 AM EST
    Just seems to be winging it...

    Just seems to be right-winging it.

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    i imagine herman cain, (none / 0) (#20)
    by cpinva on Thu Oct 20, 2011 at 09:21:29 AM EST
    much like sarah palin does for sarah palin, will advocate only for himself. anything else will be an unexpected side effect.

    I imagine Herman Cain will advocate only for those who go to church.

    his grifting is so transparently obvious, you need a willful suspension of disbelief to miss it. which puts mr. cain in the right party.

    Imagine trying to order a Pizza from this guy... (none / 0) (#27)
    by Mr Natural on Thu Oct 20, 2011 at 05:02:35 PM EST
    Seriously, what would show up at the door?