Monday Night Open Thread

Is anyone going to watch Kathy Bates on her new show Harry's Law tonight? I am.

Here's an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    Reading instead. "The Bad Girl," (none / 0) (#1)
    by oculus on Mon Jan 17, 2011 at 11:00:09 PM EST
    by Mario Vargas Llosa (Peruvian author who won 2010 Nobel Prize for Literature.)  Good story.

    heh, I'm feelin yer pain ;) (none / 0) (#3)
    by nycstray on Tue Jan 18, 2011 at 01:42:44 AM EST
    okay, not really. My body is still in NE winter weather mode, thankfully, I'm enjoying the west coast mild Northern Ca weather :) Yes, it gets chilly at night, some nights, but I'm not hearing forecasts of windchill factors that make me scream/swear while walkin' down the street.

    I went through a summer with no AC and most def not needing it, and now a totally deal-able winter?!

    I just hope yer rain doesn't come my way as my mom and I have plans to play. But if it does, I'll take the free clean water for my garden.

    Donald, it got in the upper (none / 0) (#4)
    by observed on Tue Jan 18, 2011 at 05:29:03 AM EST
    60's here (caribbean) a few weeks ago. BRRR!! I couldn't find a sweater. I feel your pain.

    Out of touch quote of the year. (So far) (none / 0) (#5)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Tue Jan 18, 2011 at 06:40:58 AM EST

    "We've had some incidents where TSA authorities think that congresspeople should be treated like everybody else." Rep. James Clyburn (D-SC)

    Depends what he meant (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by Yman on Tue Jan 18, 2011 at 08:17:30 AM EST
    In the context of the rest of his quote, he appears to be suggesting better security and coordination between TSA and the Capitol Police.

    "I really believe that that is the place where we feel the most ill at ease, is going through airports,"...

    Clyburn called for the Transportation Security Administration, which administers airport security checkpoints, to interact "a little better" with the Capitol Hill Police.

    Noting that local law enforcement were installed outside his South Carolina home after the attack on Giffords, Clyburn said the House may need to "beef up the funding" for individual members' budgets so they can coordinate improved security arrangements with local police.

    It sounds like he's calling for improved coordination and security at airports, where he believes Congressmen are most vulnerable, not special treatment for the sake of convenience.



    You think that Congressmen (none / 0) (#6)
    by Harry Saxon on Tue Jan 18, 2011 at 07:08:40 AM EST
    should be treated as potential terrorists?

    If the honorable Rep were a Republican, I'd bet garbage to doornails that everyone from Limbaugh in the South to Beck in the North and Dennis Prager here on the Best Coast would be prating and  chiming in about the cost of political correctness, and of course, it's all Obama's fault.

    "Out of touch?"

    I needed a laugh this early in the morning.

    Speaking of political correctness:

    From philosoraptor(dot)blogspot(dot)com:

    So, it looks like people are finally acknowledging that the problem with the contemporary right is not just the incivility of their rhetoric, but also the fact that it's rife with falsehood. That's good, but now some are saying, roughly, that incivility isn't the problem at all, it's just the rampant falsehoods. (I can dig up links, but am too lazy right now.) That's not true. Incivility is a problem, as is rampant falsehood. Both, however, are associated with a rather more fundamental problem--or so I'd argue--and that's roughly dogmatism. The strident dogmatism on the contemporary right makes people incapable of being even minimally objective about their own errors and biases. One consequence of this is that they end up with more false beliefs, since they're not objective about the evidence and not willing to abandon even their most flamboyantly false beliefs. Another consequence is that they are driven to view anyone who disagrees with them as stupid and evil. Dogmatism is a common problem, and it's extremely common in politics...but its rampant on the contemporary right. My view is that it's always rampant among political extremists, and it's the fact that the American right has moved farther right that accounts for their dogmatism. As you probably realize, the extreme left (which exists in the U.S. only on college campuses) can be every bit as strident and dogmatic as the extreme right...it's just that we don't have many far-lefties in American politics.

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    IMHO (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Tue Jan 18, 2011 at 07:21:37 AM EST

    They should be treated as any other ordinary citizen.  No more no less.  Contrary to what may be their own assumptions, they ain't royalty.

    And ordinary citizens should be (5.00 / 2) (#8)
    by observed on Tue Jan 18, 2011 at 07:32:47 AM EST
    treated better.

    Bingo... (none / 0) (#11)
    by kdog on Tue Jan 18, 2011 at 08:01:45 AM EST
    observed...don't treat the VIP's like proles to even things out, treat everybody like a VIP.

    I like the quote Abdul, that does say it all about different rules different fools and all the "entitlement programs".  

    Damn right they ain't our royals, they are our employees.


    So, you're in favor of security theater (none / 0) (#10)
    by Harry Saxon on Tue Jan 18, 2011 at 07:58:16 AM EST
    so that everyone is treated equally.

    What about pilots? Just because they fly the plane, they aren't royalty.

    What about the fellow who works behind counter, he certainly isn't royalty, and there's a greater chance that he's one of those scary Muslims than a Congressman or an airplane pilot, correct?

    Resentment isn't a good political posture, as Nietzche noted more than 130 years ago.

    I'm just saying.


    The "security theater" is a farce (none / 0) (#16)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Tue Jan 18, 2011 at 08:29:16 AM EST
    Actually it is worse than farce as it diverts substantial resources from more productive uses.  The Congress has control of all of this via its funding power.  IMO, there should be no special treatment for congresspersons.  And not just in this case, they should have to live under the same laws and regulations the rest of us have to live under.

    If Congress wants to have different security procedures for airline and airport workers, I'm OK with that although it weakens security.  For example, it is very difficult to identify who is a pilot as opposed to a person who is holding a piece of ID that says the holder is a pilot.  To identify pilots something retina scans would be required.


    I wanted (none / 0) (#9)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Jan 18, 2011 at 07:33:21 AM EST
    to watch Harry's Law but I didn't have time to. Was it good?

    I saw the last 35 minutes (none / 0) (#26)
    by shoephone on Tue Jan 18, 2011 at 10:04:16 PM EST
    and I thought it was pretty bad -- silly and overwraught on the emotion. That's a bummer, because I usually really like Kathy Bates. But I haven't liked many of the David Kelly shows.

    Speaking of new shows... (none / 0) (#12)
    by kdog on Tue Jan 18, 2011 at 08:12:23 AM EST
    anybody caught "Shameless" on Showtime?  William H. Macy as a raging alcoholic child-like father of 6 self-sufficient and resourceful kids, & Emmy Rossum as the eldest daughter/mother figure holding it all together.

    Rossum really shines...the character reminds me so much of my big sister, tough as nails.

    I'm really digging it.

    yeah (none / 0) (#15)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Jan 18, 2011 at 08:22:37 AM EST
    its great.

    How 'bout that Joan Cusack... (none / 0) (#17)
    by kdog on Tue Jan 18, 2011 at 09:00:57 AM EST
    as an agoraphobic June Cleaver with a freaky-deaky side...the end of episode 2 had me in stitches.

    And I can't wait to see there the closeted muslim shop owner with the fundamentalist wife angle goes...what a crop of characters!


    I like the (none / 0) (#18)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Jan 18, 2011 at 09:23:26 AM EST
    10 year old psychopath.

    Yes, I was unsure about the show (none / 0) (#25)
    by Towanda on Tue Jan 18, 2011 at 09:57:23 PM EST
    from the first episode, fascinating as it was.  

    But letting Joan Cusack loose also so entertained me last night that the show is a now a must.

    And Big Love is back! and Bill is still such a loser that I continue to wonder what all those wives see in him.  Or saw in him, it seems, as the women finally begin to see through him.


    I liked the first episode a lot (none / 0) (#20)
    by ruffian on Tue Jan 18, 2011 at 10:40:14 AM EST
    but the didn't get a chance to watch the second. I'll catch up.

    Yes, I really like Emmy Rossum's character, and her acting. I can really relate, though our family was not quite that extreme.

    I like the Chicago setting too of course. About time we had more shows set there.


    Yep... (none / 0) (#21)
    by kdog on Tue Jan 18, 2011 at 10:48:16 AM EST
    I can relate too, to a lesser extreme.  My alcoholic pops had some of Frank Gallagher's qualities...but he functioned, went to work and provided...unlike Frank.

    Though if something had ever happened to moms, would he have spiralled out of control like Frank? And would I have been sharp and street wise enough to hustle my own daily bread?

    And I just love it how the local cop with the hots for Rossum's character lets all their petty crimes of survival slide:)


    really good show (none / 0) (#22)
    by Jeralyn on Tue Jan 18, 2011 at 11:32:43 AM EST
    love the cast, and Fiona's boyfriend. I'll bet he gets a story arc that's intriguing.

    Yeah... (none / 0) (#23)
    by kdog on Tue Jan 18, 2011 at 11:44:42 AM EST
    I'm sensing a dark side to the knight in shining armor.

    oh (none / 0) (#14)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Jan 18, 2011 at 08:21:30 AM EST
    poor baby


    some things you just have to see for yourself (none / 0) (#19)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Jan 18, 2011 at 10:11:55 AM EST
    google "how do I get my mom to"

    Hoofriggin'ray, Joe Lieberman to retire in 2012 (none / 0) (#24)
    by Dadler on Tue Jan 18, 2011 at 05:11:11 PM EST