Monday Night TV and Open Thread

The new cast of Dancing With the Stars will be announced on Bachelor Pad tonight. I hope there's some surprises. More interesting: A new episode of Weeds.

Update: Ladies: Brandy, Jennifer Grey, Margaret Cho, Audrina Patridge (who?), Florence Henderson (Cloris redux?), Bristol Palin (looked awful on TV, awkward, ill at ease and horridly over made-up.) Yuck, let's hope the men are better choices.

Update: "Mike the Situation" (Jersey Shore), David Hasselhoff, singer Michael Bolton, Rick Fox, Kurt Warner, Kyle Massey (another who?)

This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    amusing side effect (5.00 / 2) (#23)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Aug 31, 2010 at 09:16:01 AM EST
    of a flexible work environment.
    I tought yesterday was the labor day holiday.  so I stayed home.  
    no one missed me.  no one called.  no one seemed to care.


    I guess I will work next monday.

    A lot of depressing reality out there (none / 0) (#1)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Aug 30, 2010 at 08:09:14 PM EST
    Brighter life note Joshua is learning where all the states are and all the capitals, and there are some really cool online games to play.  He is so responsive to learning in a game format, there isn't much left for me to do and I don't even have to nag to study.

    I am convinced there is nothing new (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by oculus on Mon Aug 30, 2010 at 08:40:43 PM EST
    under the sun.  Reading Ron Powers "Mark Twain" I learned today Henry Ward Beecher, a nationally known Protestant preacher, preached against adultery but was accused by a feminist political candidate (running on a ticket with Frederick Douglass as VP) of having sex with a married Sunday School teacher in his congregation.  He was tried and acquitted.

    Also reading about the run-up to Twain and Warner's novel "The Gilded Age."  Nothing new there either.  


    I have 'The Kitchen House' started (none / 0) (#6)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Aug 30, 2010 at 09:17:07 PM EST
    and my daughter has me also reading 'The White Queen'. I ordered a small book about beekeeping that also has me fascinated.  Not that I'll be aquiring any bees, I don't fancy myself a charmer of that sorts...but it still fascinates me.  I have books all over the place laying face down open though when the babies aren't running around.

    Mark Twain spoke the truth before it was ever fashionable :)


    Are you enjoying Philippa Gregory's (none / 0) (#13)
    by oculus on Mon Aug 30, 2010 at 09:40:18 PM EST
    writing?  I have been given several of her books in the Henry VIII wives series but haven't read any yet.

    I'm working on it (none / 0) (#18)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Aug 30, 2010 at 09:59:56 PM EST
    I'm only a couple of chapters in.  My daughter loves her, this is my first time reading her.

    Well (none / 0) (#2)
    by squeaky on Mon Aug 30, 2010 at 08:27:18 PM EST
    A game I liked a lot is Clockwords, great for vocabulary, typing speed and spelling... might be too hard..

    Also bookworm


    What grade is he in? Tutoree just (none / 0) (#3)
    by oculus on Mon Aug 30, 2010 at 08:37:23 PM EST
    started 7th grade and I am convinced they will never have to learn the names of the states and state capitols.  

    He's in fifth grade (none / 0) (#5)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Aug 30, 2010 at 09:09:29 PM EST
    I remember in fifth grade they decided we didn't need to learn all the capitals, but each student was assigned a state and did a report and a poster.  The world is so much smaller now in terms of how much we travel, I think it is more important now.  I did not know that the capital of Maine was Augusta.  This Eastern thing is still new to me, and I am still not smarter than a fifth grader.  When I cue him for Texas though I ask him where all the smart Texans live?  I figure I survived the West long enough to teach my child such filth :)

    Now I remember. Fifth grade each kid (none / 0) (#7)
    by oculus on Mon Aug 30, 2010 at 09:20:53 PM EST
    did a report on a state.

    I never was expected to learn the state (none / 0) (#8)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Aug 30, 2010 at 09:23:30 PM EST
    capitals.  Isn't that strange?

    Yes. To a midwesterner of a certain age. (none / 0) (#11)
    by oculus on Mon Aug 30, 2010 at 09:37:52 PM EST
    Amazingly, the kids who sold stuff to tourists at Angkor Wat (Cambodia) obviously weren't in school.  However, they would ask which state you're from and promptly tell you the capital city.  Pretty impressive.

    Of course, I never learned about the Anazasi.  But, doesn't matter anymore as they aren't called that anymore.  Not politically correct.


    Extremism (none / 0) (#9)
    by squeaky on Mon Aug 30, 2010 at 09:24:02 PM EST
    A singer who performed in front of a "mixed audience" of men and women was lashed 39 times to make him "repent," after a ruling by a self-described rabbinic court on Wednesday.

    Rabbi Amnon Yitzhak, founder of the Shofar organization aimed at bringing Jews "back to religion" (hazara betshuva), has made it his recent mission to fight against musical performances for both men and women.


    I assume that the singer accepted the punishment voluntarily.... go figure....

    Not that I condone what actually took place... (none / 0) (#12)
    by Tony on Mon Aug 30, 2010 at 09:39:56 PM EST
    but I think it's fair say the Jerusalem Post exaggerated this story quite a bit.  The video of the "lashes" is here, they begin a bit after the 5:20 mark.  They barely tap him, it's basically symbolic.

    Of course it is outrageous that anyone would be punished -- symbolic or not -- for singing in front of women but the term "lashed" and "whipped" brings to mind something more extreme than what actually took place IMO.


    A Taliban rabbi. How ecumenical. (none / 0) (#14)
    by oculus on Mon Aug 30, 2010 at 09:42:10 PM EST
    Weeds is funny tonight (none / 0) (#10)
    by ruffian on Mon Aug 30, 2010 at 09:37:20 PM EST
    Nancy as hotel maid is as good as I had hoped.

    Have to be better than the Pads/AZ (none / 0) (#15)
    by oculus on Mon Aug 30, 2010 at 09:43:10 PM EST
    game.  Top of the 4th inning.  6-2 AZ.  

    Is it odd to announce on Bachelor (none / 0) (#16)
    by oculus on Mon Aug 30, 2010 at 09:47:01 PM EST
    Pad who will be competing on Dancing with the Stars.  Same network, I gather.

    Usually they announce on (none / 0) (#17)
    by Jeralyn on Mon Aug 30, 2010 at 09:52:17 PM EST
    The Bachelor, but it ended a few weeks ago so they are doing it on Bachelor Pad. Yes, it's because they are both ABC. But I think when they made the decision to announce on the show, there was a good chance Ali or Roberto (or both) from the Bach'ette  would be on, and that fizzled out. No word on why she was wasn't chosen. Maybe she didn't audition well.

    I read somewhere that neither (none / 0) (#20)
    by Anne on Tue Aug 31, 2010 at 06:50:43 AM EST
    Ali nor Roberto was interested in being on the show - perhaps after the whole Jake/Vienna disaster, they decided there was enough of the spotlight already, and they wanted to try living as much in the real world as possible - even though they're photographed wherever they go.

    It's not a show I've ever watched more than snippets of; I do have my guilty pleasures in terms of TV, but have just never been able to get into DWTS.

    And Bachelor Pad?  Just can't go there for more than a few minutes at a time.  I think I watched most of one episode and other than a few minutes here and there of the others, I just can't take it; my question to my daughter every week is, "so, how many times did Tenley cry this week?"  

    Monday nights for me are The Closer, Rizzoli and Isles, The Big C and...the guilty pleasure: the Real Housewives of NJ...last night's knock-down, drag-out reunion show - such drama! - to be followed next week by Part II.  The NJ Housewives have been mostly like a train wreck, but strangely fascinating...


    An interesting article (none / 0) (#19)
    by CoralGables on Mon Aug 30, 2010 at 11:39:31 PM EST
    in Newsweek saying part of the economic problem is being caused by people saving instead of spending. In the long run that's actually a very good thing.

    There is a distinct upside to the savings rate tripling in the last three years. It's just not so visible to people with credit card mentality that need instant gratification when it comes to the economy.


    I'm saving more because my mortgage is underwater (none / 0) (#21)
    by ruffian on Tue Aug 31, 2010 at 08:56:01 AM EST
    I'm sure lots of other people are too. We will never going to be able to use those savings except to buy our souls back from the bank if we have to sell our houses short.

    That may slow down the foreclosure rate a little, but other than that it is not a rosy long-term scenario for anyone but the banks.


    From the Newsweek article (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by ruffian on Tue Aug 31, 2010 at 08:58:19 AM EST
    Since late 2007, lower home and stock values have shaved about $10 trillion from household wealth. If Americans tried to replace most of this through more annual saving, consumer spending would remain weak for years.

    IMO this is what is happening.