Thursday Night TV and Open Thread

Big Brother 12 begins tonight. There's a saboteur this season. (Update: I hope the female sheriff is the first to go. After that, the mensa guy.)I guess most people are watching LeBron make a decision.

The Emmy Award nominations are out (list of major awards here). I'm glad to see that Breaking Bad is up for Best Drama Series, Best Actor (Bryan Cranston) and Best supporting actor (Aaron Paul as Jesse Pinkman). And I'm really disappointed Mary Louise Parker and others from Weeds didn't get a nod. It should have gotten best comedy over Nurse Jackie. Nurse Jackie isn't funny, it's depressing, and the episodes are repetitious. Edie Falco can only do so much, and she can't carry the whole show.

Damages and the Good Wife picked up a few, and while I like Damages more, I have to say Archie Panjabi for best supporting actress in the Good Wife (the private investigator role) is a much better pick than Rose Byrne in Damages. Juliana Margolies is probably a shoo-in in best actress, particularly since Glenn Close didn't have much of a part this season in Damages, but Aaron Paul as Jesse Pinkman in Breaking Bad way deserves to win over Martin Short for Damages.

Jimmy Fallon will be host for the Aug. 29 show.

This is an open thread, all topics (tv related or not) are welcome.

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    Why I love Jeralyn (none / 0) (#1)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 07:44:23 PM EST
    Totally ignores the "The Decision."

    Makes at least two of us (none / 0) (#3)
    by andgarden on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 07:46:59 PM EST
    I did mention it (none / 0) (#4)
    by Jeralyn on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 08:17:12 PM EST
    but you are right, I don't follow these things. I love having an entire subject to tune out (sports) even though I do like watching snowboarding.

    So what did he decide? And why is it a big deal?


    ESPN (none / 0) (#5)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 08:19:38 PM EST
    still milking it. It's disgusting.

    It's not really important.

    People are paying attention because LeBron is the most famous athlete in America.


    Frankly, I'm happy (none / 0) (#6)
    by andgarden on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 08:28:43 PM EST
    that the Boston judge is being upstaged.

    Or at least, I'm not sorry.


    Miami (none / 0) (#7)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 08:29:31 PM EST
    Interesting (none / 0) (#9)
    by ruffian on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 08:32:37 PM EST
    Thanks for not making me turn on the TV or google.

    Well, life in FL may get more interesting, there is that to say for it.


    you should write a post about it (none / 0) (#10)
    by Jeralyn on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 08:52:25 PM EST
    there are a surprising number (none / 0) (#17)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Jul 09, 2010 at 09:09:24 AM EST
    of people who not only dont give a rats a$$ what Lebron does or where he does it but hate the fact they even have to know who he is.

    favorite comment to date (none / 0) (#19)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Jul 09, 2010 at 09:51:09 AM EST
    Oooh, Conan got nominated. . . (none / 0) (#2)
    by andgarden on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 07:46:27 PM EST

    Unusual that I only watch one of the (none / 0) (#8)
    by ruffian on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 08:30:36 PM EST
    shows up for Best Drama: Dexter.
    In fact I see that in most categories I only watch one of the shows. Guess the odds I will see anyone I recognize on stage are slim to none.

    I was hoping Jonathan Rhys Myers would get a nom for The Tudors this year. I thought he was exceptionally good portraying Henry as an aging man. I would still have wanted Michael C Hall to win however.

    I didn't think Weeds was very good last season, so i'm not disappointed about that. Other years it should have swept though, so it is too bad it did not win more when it was a better show. I'll be pulling for Glee, though it is going to be tough with all the hype. I hope my anti-hype defenses don't overwhelm my love for the show. love Nurse Jackie too,so if the show and Edie win I'll be happy.

    and Lithgow for Dexter.

    Other than that.....I think Modern Family and Breaking Bad will have good nights, from what I hear about those shows.

    So N.P.R. has announced that... (none / 0) (#11)
    by EL seattle on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 09:31:38 PM EST
    ...they'll be known as NPR from now on.

    This got me thinking - Have there been any really good new programs on public radio lately?  I think that most of the reliables are still on the air (like Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me; American Routes, etc., etc.) but I'm at a loss to think of any newer programs of note.  Have there been any new radio shows on NPR, PRI, APR (or wherever) that managed to just sort of come out of the blue and take off over the past few years?  

    Is Marketplace fairly new? (none / 0) (#12)
    by ruffian on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 09:41:08 PM EST
    That's the only one I can think of. I think 'On Point ' is pretty new, but I don't like it that much. Don't care for the host- she does that fake incredulous voice too often.

    "Day to Day" is pretty recent. (none / 0) (#13)
    by oculus on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 10:31:05 PM EST
    Yes. And as a collaboration... (none / 0) (#18)
    by EL seattle on Fri Jul 09, 2010 at 09:46:46 AM EST
    ...with Slate.com, it was a serious effort at creating a new variation on traitional formats.

    Unfortuntely, I think Day to Day was completely cancelled a year ago.

    I think that 9/11 caused some severe long-term changes in radio listening habits here in the US, and public radio programming is still trying to recover.  But I don't have any independent documentation for that theory.


    Ms. Lohan's attorney resigns. (none / 0) (#14)
    by oculus on Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 10:31:32 PM EST

    i see (none / 0) (#15)
    by cpinva on Fri Jul 09, 2010 at 12:54:41 AM EST
    sharon gless is the only nominee for "Burn Notice, and nothing for Royal Pains.

    it's good to know some things are consistent, lack of originality wins awards.

    Burn Notice is so much fun to watch! (none / 0) (#20)
    by andgarden on Fri Jul 09, 2010 at 12:33:40 PM EST
    Michael C Hall (none / 0) (#16)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Jul 09, 2010 at 09:07:51 AM EST
    and his series Dexter are both nominated.  again.

    perhaps the emmys will get a clue this year.

    I'm delighted Andre Braugher was nominated (none / 0) (#21)
    by esmense on Fri Jul 09, 2010 at 12:40:12 PM EST
    for his role in "Men of a Certain Age." Very well deserved. I wish the show itself had been nominated.

    How must Ed O'Neil feel as the only adult cast member of "Modern Family" who wasn't nominated?

    Digby has a post up about strategic default (none / 0) (#22)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Jul 09, 2010 at 03:40:45 PM EST
    and people who now have Fannie and Freddie loans being threatened by the Obama administration if they took a look at the numbers where their mortgage is concerned and choose to walk away.  We have talked about this too.  We could not have been more careful or more responsible for self when we purchased our home.  But the bankers were making insane often fraudulent loans and really busted the markets and our whole economy.  We played by every rule in the book while nobody else in the equation was.

    A mortgage is a collateralized loan. Commenter says that if the administration thinks they will take this route trying to strong arm Americans and beat them into submission and make them pay off the huge indebtedness that the bankers and Wall Street planted on all of us that an army of contractual lawyers are going beat them to death with it.

    Yeah (none / 0) (#23)
    by squeaky on Fri Jul 09, 2010 at 07:51:07 PM EST
    Here is a great NYT article from January called Walk Away From Your Mortgage!  worth a read.

    also one from today  Biggest Defaulters on Mortgages Are the Rich.


    I read that in Digby's write up (none / 0) (#24)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Jul 09, 2010 at 11:51:52 PM EST
    and it just boils my blood that I feel so damned obligated, but the rich do not and that is in part how they become "rich".  They don't waste their time on silly things like obligations.

    Obligations? (none / 0) (#25)
    by squeaky on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 12:06:20 AM EST
    To the bank? lol....  I have to say that in this case the rich are doing the right thing. The NTY January writer was absolutely correct. Ruined credit ratings etc are over rated, obligations to banks that will stab you in the back and sell your children into slavery are misguided. F' those a$$holes. There is no honor or integrity in going down to keep a property that costs more than it is worth, particularly if you are ruining your life just to keep the bank's profit margin intact.

    BTW (none / 0) (#26)
    by squeaky on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 12:07:55 AM EST
    It is not an obligation it is a business deal. The deal is you do not pay your mtg and the bank gets the collateral, aka the property.

    I understand this squeaky (none / 0) (#27)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 12:24:58 AM EST
    I didn't just fall off of the finance turnip truck.  It is a deal though.  I don't like not following through on my deals if it can be helped.  I dislike it so much I have sucked up many things and dug deep to uphold my part in many deals. This is not a character flaw in my opinion.  Maybe it is in yours.

    Ookkay (none / 0) (#28)
    by squeaky on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 12:54:52 AM EST
    If lenders feared an avalanche of strategic defaults, they would have an incentive to renegotiate loan terms. In theory, this could produce a wave of loan modifications -- the very goal the Treasury has been pursuing to end the crisis.

    Yes think of the children....

    Brent White, a University of Arizona law professor, notes that a family who bought a three-bedroom home in Salinas, Calif., at the market top in 2006, with no down payment (then a common-enough occurrence), could theoretically have to wait 60 years to recover their equity. On the other hand, if they walked, they could rent a similar house for a pittance of their monthly mortgage.

    the hungry children.

    But in any case people like you, who believe that walking from a bad mortgage deal is immoral, keep the banks in charge.


    I don't believe it is immoral (none / 0) (#29)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 01:06:31 AM EST
    I'm not speaking for anyone but myself on anything.  Unlike you who will chastise the world at all times.  Why are always such a jerk?  Go pick elsewhere.  You bore me.

    Hey (none / 0) (#30)
    by squeaky on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 02:20:50 AM EST

    You complained about your blood boiling, sorry to have tried to present you with an alternative way of thinking.

    Reading the article about walking from a mortgage certainly changed the way I think.

    Oh well... bored and boiling blood... at least you have alliteration going for you.


    You are a giant jacka$$ (none / 0) (#31)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 02:36:33 AM EST
    Was I not the one who put up the initial link to the post?  Was I not the one saying that this family was also putting this discussion on the table in our personal lives?  You are introducing nothing but buttheadisms.  Please go away, stop replying to my posts.

    Whatever You Say (none / 0) (#32)
    by squeaky on Sat Jul 10, 2010 at 02:59:01 AM EST
    But as far as being a butthead, you are the one who started in with the insults.

    This is not a character flaw in my opinion.  Maybe it is in yours.

    And continued. The feeling of "oblgation" to the bank is your problem, and one that you pride yourself in. And I have a character flaw because I feel zero allegiance to the banks

    Go figure.