Report: "Deem and Pass" Dead, Will Be Separate Vote on Senate Bill

Via TNR's Jonathan Cohn at Twitter:

No deem and pass. Separate vote on Senate bill.

How out to lunch are the protesters? From a few hours ago, via Cohn:

Rally speaker just attacked Obama obesity initiative: "Michelle, keep your hands off my kids' lunchbox"

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    You can take my kid's Twinky (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by Joan in VA on Sat Mar 20, 2010 at 05:43:39 PM EST
    when you pry it from his cold, dead hand. Coming soon to a car bumper near you!

    My GOP represeentative's latest (none / 0) (#1)
    by oculus on Sat Mar 20, 2010 at 01:41:55 PM EST
    mailer to "resident" does not mention HCR at all.  Perhaps he is getting negative feedback from his constituents on his misleading critique of the pending legislations and his bullet-points for what he thinks will "fix" health care.  This mailer is all about jobs and economy and immigration, i.e., no wonder there aren't any jobs--look at all the illegal immigrants here.

    Deem and pass (none / 0) (#2)
    by jbindc on Sat Mar 20, 2010 at 01:43:14 PM EST
    is dead, if true, because Democrats are holding out and wouldn't support it.

    An example:

    Rep. Dennis Cardoza (D-Calif.) appeared to switch positions on healthcare on Saturday, saying he'd vote against a rule that deems the Senate bill as passed.

    Cardoza, a previously undecided lawmaker who'd voted to pass Democrats' healthcare bill in November, said he would vote against the process his party plans to move forward on healthcare.

    "I don't believe it's smart of us to pass a bill this momentous with a deemed rule," Cardoza said in a Rules Committee markup. "I want to make the announcement in the committee right now that I don't support that, and won't support a rule that does it that way."

    It makes absolutely no difference now (none / 0) (#3)
    by andgarden on Sat Mar 20, 2010 at 02:16:11 PM EST
    because the "deem and pass" option that was under consideration would have amounted to exactly the same thing. Now they're just going to have two roll calls instead of one.

    Yes that's true (none / 0) (#11)
    by ruffian on Sat Mar 20, 2010 at 04:06:20 PM EST
    But if it is even one less thing for Republicans to whine about, I am glad they are doing a straight vote.

    Good, straight votes with accountability n/t (none / 0) (#4)
    by BTAL on Sat Mar 20, 2010 at 02:26:02 PM EST

    Out to lunch (none / 0) (#5)
    by waldenpond on Sat Mar 20, 2010 at 02:56:31 PM EST
    Far out.

    Rumors are getting nasty. Frank gets called the 'f' word?  Lewis gets called the 'n' word?

    Wow. Good reason to go be with Obama (none / 0) (#6)
    by Cream City on Sat Mar 20, 2010 at 03:07:09 PM EST
    in the Dem caucus meeting -- as there are Secret Service there for more security for members of Congress, too.  Maybe they ought to bring in the legendary cots from the cloakrooms and give one to Obama to keep him and his Secret Service around for a little longer, until the crazies leave these buildings and environs.  Not a day to be in D.C.

    Well there's also an anti (none / 0) (#8)
    by jbindc on Sat Mar 20, 2010 at 03:24:22 PM EST
    -war protest going on in town, the marathon was this morning, so people are hanging around from that, and tourists are around.

    I know -- I know someone there (none / 0) (#9)
    by Cream City on Sat Mar 20, 2010 at 03:40:06 PM EST
    for the antiwar protest and hope he stays safe.  I understand that Beck was rallying the crazy troops last night, claiming that Communists and Socialists had permits today in D.C., too.  He apparently just about called for everybody to get their guns and go to the nation's capital. . . .

    Everyone needs to mellow out (none / 0) (#10)
    by jbindc on Sat Mar 20, 2010 at 03:41:37 PM EST
    It's like 75 degrees and sunny here. Too nice a day to be so angry.

    Glad the weather improved, I was there (none / 0) (#13)
    by KeysDan on Sat Mar 20, 2010 at 08:10:57 PM EST
    last weekend for the cold and constant rain.  But did get to observe Senators McCain and Lieberman rehearsing their inquiries of one another on the issue of the Biden "insult", with Mark Warner presiding.  Subsequently, they went to their respective desks and discussed the matter, for the record and for their press releases.  Part of the theatre, I guess.  They both look even worse in the flesh and blood.

    If he actually went so far as (none / 0) (#14)
    by Socraticsilence on Sun Mar 21, 2010 at 09:01:56 PM EST
    "bring your guns to the capitol" I think FOX News really needs to think about stepping, that's one unbalanced nut from starting a bloodbath and frankly losing everything in a civil suit.

    The office buildings are pretty open (none / 0) (#7)
    by andgarden on Sat Mar 20, 2010 at 03:14:56 PM EST
    You don't need a reason to be there. For better or worse. . .