Thursday Night TV and Open Thread

Who's going home tonight on American Idol? I sure hope it's not Crystal Bowersox or Lilli Scott. Tonight's results will leave the top 12 contestants, the real start of the season.

Who's going home on Survivor? I finally caught up with "24", Damages and The Good Wife. All were excellent this week. I even watched Molly and Jason's wedding last night. It was less schmaltzy than I thought it would be. Maybe it's just that compared to Jake and Vienna, Jason and Molly are a relief to watch. I hope Jakes gets eliminated in week one during DWTS. I'd rather watch Tom DeLay.

This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    Thoughts going out (5.00 / 4) (#24)
    by jbindc on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 08:20:20 AM EST
    Wishing them (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by WS on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 08:53:10 AM EST
    a speedy recovery.  

    Another view of the Tea Party (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by jbindc on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 08:28:14 AM EST
    Evangelicals are not comfortable with the Tea Party either because the group is too libertarian for many.

    There's no centralized tea party organization, and anecdotes suggest that many tea party participants hold socially conservative views. But those views have been little in evidence at movement gatherings or in public statements, and are sometimes deliberately excluded from the political agenda. The groups coordinating them eschew social issues, and a new Contract From America, has become an article of concern on the social right.

    The contract, sponsored by the grass-roots Tea Party Patriots as well as Washington groups such as FreedomWorks and Americans for Tax Reform, asks supporters to choose the 10 most important issues from a menu of 21 choices that makes no mention of socially conservative priorities such as gay marriage and abortion.


    There's little data on the disparate tea party movement. One small CNN survey of self-identified tea party activists found that 68 percent identify themselves as Protestants or other non-Catholic Christians, as opposed to just 50 percent in the general population. Only 9 percent of the activists say they're irreligious, as opposed to 14 percent in the broader sample.

    But an in-depth study of 49 tea party leaders by the free-market oriented Sam Adams Alliance suggested that the leadership consciously avoids social issues and plans to continue doing so.

    "None of them chose social issues as the sole direction for the movement," said the group's marketing director, Anne Sorock, who oversaw the study.

    She said that while many of the leaders held conservative views on social issues, "they were completely adamant that [the issues] were not a part of their agenda for the long term."

    "Across the board everyone had the same answer: It's so important that they achieve their goals that social issues cannot distract them, because they need to cast the widest net of consensus with the widest group possible," she said.


    Dems Can't Chew Gum and Walk (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by kidneystones on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 08:45:17 AM EST
    That's an excellent comment. There's a real ideological schism within tea-party ranks between Ron Paul social liberals and Sarah Palin social conservatives. The combination is impossible to control but highly motivated. Calling them names just seems to spur them on. We know how that works.

    As for the party with all the real power, how is it that Dems get to trot out the: we can only concentrate on one bill at a time meme and not get called on it? What is this? Jobs have to wait because the federal government can only do one thing at a time?

    Here's the bad news. The press is still pretty much in the tank for Obama and the Dems. Can't chew gum and walk is, believe or not, the current Dem argument defending their feckless ineptitude.

    Once we finish baking the cookies, then we'll start raking the yard! There's only so much a body can do at one time.

    Ya know?


    That "schism" (5.00 / 1) (#68)
    by jondee on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 12:18:03 PM EST
    between the rapine-and-plunder Libertarians and the Rapture-invokers always seems to manage to come together around election time..or it has a few times in the past.

    I say "call them names" -- and fight every bit as dirty as the Low-balling, October Surprising, Lewinskying, Swift Boating, red-baiting weasels and their internet errand boys and girls have been doing for thirty years.

    How about another Malkin link? Since you guys are so into the Marquis of Queensberry rules.


    It's my (none / 0) (#73)
    by kidneystones on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 06:42:17 PM EST
    pal, jondee! Heaven forbid you learn anything new. I could link to a new study that confirms only a fraction of folks who read blogs read both the left and the right which means you and your closed-minded buddies are almost as ignorant as the 'other-side'. I'll give you an extra bonus sticker cause you read TL, but you still don't have a clue about what's going on on the right.

    Smart politics? I disagree. But you're the well-informed expert!

    Right? Repeat after me: I know everything already, I don't need to read. I know everything already, I don't need to...

    What was it Jackson said about the original inhabitants? 'I've known a few good ones, but they're all...'

    Always a pleasure to see you show up and put the blinders on.

    Teapartiers coming to getcha! Define your enemy by calling them names. Forget facts!

    We don't need'em!


    The Ignorantees of the Left, lol (none / 0) (#74)
    by squeaky on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 06:57:53 PM EST
    Yeah, seeing that the right is just so difficult to understand, like reading a super secret 12th century tome on alchemy.

    And I suppose that you fancy yourself as exemplifying the ideal of a truly well rounded and literate blogger... hilarious.


    No, but I do read the left and the right (none / 0) (#75)
    by kidneystones on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 07:15:30 PM EST
    Which evidently places me in the minority.

    When was the last time you gave the right a good read? You being so well-informed and all.

    Or, do you just 'know' what they're going to say.

    Case you haven't being paying attention, Dems haven't been winning too many arguments recently.

    Probably not enough Keith O. Remember? 'Brown is a homophobic racist tea-bagger who advocates violence against women?

    Dems? Geniuses. Every one of them. You're trying to out-stupid the right and win. Won't work, but I don't expect you'll stop anytime soon. You've got too much invested in the name-calling.


    Name Calling? (5.00 / 1) (#76)
    by squeaky on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 07:46:02 PM EST
    I think that you are the one engaged in name calling, but perhaps you are dyslectic and get your right and left confused.

    I smell... (5.00 / 2) (#31)
    by kdog on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 09:01:52 AM EST
    a concerted effort to keep their socially conservative agenda under-wraps, but only temporarily...in an effort to build that larger base, deceptively. There are a lot of fiscal conservatives/social liberals in this country, sh*t I could call myself one.

    If the movement got any real power, the leadership would pull back the curtain and unleash socially conservative tyranny...no doubt.  This is exactly why I never went to one of their parties...I wasn't born yesterday.


    I totally agree (none / 0) (#32)
    by ruffian on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 09:06:29 AM EST
    Now if there was... (none / 0) (#44)
    by kdog on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 09:34:10 AM EST
    a tea party with the jazz-age/beat version of "tea", I'd be there in a heartbeat:)  

    I don't like the debt, the skim, the scam, the market-rigging, welfare queens at Goldman, the total lack of respect afforded to individual liberty anymore than the teabaggers...but I seriously question their sincerity.  I fear they'd tax us to put bibles in every public-school desk if they could.

    Look at this brew-ha-ha over school textbooks in Texas...the social conservatives wanna leave out such staples as seperation of church and state...spooky.


    A woman on local NPR explained (none / 0) (#48)
    by oculus on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 09:43:31 AM EST
    yesterday how she drove here for a tea party movement rally.  Her reason for making the effort:  she didn't like the U.S. government bailing out Wall St.  When she arrived at the rally, she was upset to see posters of Obama in white face and hear many racist comments.  So she stepped back and just observed the proceedings.

    I think it is political malpractice (none / 0) (#53)
    by ruffian on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 10:06:49 AM EST
    that progressives have not been able to capture this issue into a movement of their own, even if it means criticizing the Obama administration.

    Michael Moore was very eloquent in pleading for them (and Dems) to wake up on the clip form the Maddow show that Capt Howdy posted yesterday.


    I have an idea... (none / 0) (#58)
    by kdog on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 10:22:01 AM EST
    why they haven't...it might (gasp!) cost a crooked D an election, and give a crooked R a win.

    Remeber ruffian, to many people, it is little more than sport...professional wrestling.


    Security (none / 0) (#59)
    by mmc9431 on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 10:43:32 AM EST
    It's a very lucrative and comfortable life style. Not many want to rock that boat.

    Tea Party (none / 0) (#61)
    by mmc9431 on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 10:58:03 AM EST
    They may end up being the salvation of the Democrats come November. They'll scare off more voters than they'll attract.

    See. it true. You don't have to be good if everyone around you is bad! Maybe the Democrats can use that as a campaign slogan.


    This (5.00 / 1) (#62)
    by Dr Molly on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 11:23:39 AM EST
    You don't have to be good if everyone around you is bad!

    is quite possibly the best description of the Democratic Party I have ever seen.


    A race to the bottom doesn't have much (none / 0) (#64)
    by Anne on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 11:33:13 AM EST
    appeal for me, and that's what you get when the standard is "you don't have to be good if everyone around you is bad;" that pretty much explains the trajectory of at least two branches of government, I think.

    There are a lot of people who have been ever-since-I-could-vote Republicans or Democrats who feel their party has abandoned them; seeking refuge in another party has proved to be just as anger- and disappointment-provoking and hasn't solved the "who will speak for me?" question.

    I see the Tea Party forming as the end result of some relatively well-known, high-profile conservatives, tired of trying to makeover the GOP into the socially and fiscally repressive power they think it should be, and taking advantage of the desperate search among the populace for representation that the legacy parties are not providing, in order to get it going.

    Whether or not this "helps" Democrats depends on whether you are speaking from an electoral standpoint - with Tea Party splitting the GOP vote and giving victories to the Dems - or from a policy standpoint.  I have seen far too little fighting of the GOP on policy in the last year; whether in the interest of bipartisanship (which I think is the Worst Reason Ever to give up on one's agenda), or the infiltration of more conservative Dems which has pushed the Overton Window to the right, I would defy anyone to proclaim the Democrats' performance and actions on a long list of issues to be even faintly "progressive," much less liberal.

    Democrats have sinply failed to distinguish themselves in any substantive way from the Republicans on policy, and it may well be that Democrats will make the mistake they always do: attempting to hear the Tea Partiers instead of the disaffected and angry members of their own party.


    If you dont dig deep, (5.00 / 1) (#67)
    by jondee on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 11:58:39 AM EST
    we'll return to Celtic Women in ten minutes..or maybe you'd prefer John Tesh in concert..

    I remember - or at least I think I do - (5.00 / 1) (#69)
    by Anne on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 12:20:03 PM EST
    when pledge week really was one week, and it was usually only once a year - twice, tops.

    Now it seems like the public version of, "we now bring you 4 minutes of the movie whose plot you have completely lost track of while viewing an uninterrupted 46 commercials," with the pledge "week" turning to "weeks," and the frequency increasing to at least every other month.

    My least favorite are the old dudes trying to look like they did 40 years ago, struggling to sing their golden-oldies, and just making me cringe.


    Geitner-Treasury Implicated in Lehman Fraud (2.00 / 1) (#18)
    by kidneystones on Thu Mar 11, 2010 at 10:49:11 PM EST
    Remember how all those tax-dodging Masters of the Universe were going to fix the damage they did their own selves?

    Tim and his pals are up to their self-serving necks in fraud over Lehman Brothers.

    Meanwhile, Atrios and the rest of the 'inside the blog-way' luminaries refuse to acknowledge the fact that this WH is a wholly owned subsidiary of Wall St, masquerading as Main st.

    Yves Smith is burning down the temple. Thank goodness we've got her to pull back the curtain.

    Looks bad for Tim. If there's a hint of truth in all this, he'll be the under the bus within weeks.

    The stink of fear in the Dem camp is palpable.

    that's a blogger's opinion (5.00 / 2) (#20)
    by Jeralyn on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 12:12:03 AM EST
    you should post it as someone's opinion, not as news or fact.

    Fair (none / 0) (#21)
    by kidneystones on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 12:14:29 AM EST
    enough. And thanks, really, for the direction on the guidelines.

    You (5.00 / 1) (#60)
    by sas on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 10:53:35 AM EST
    have to wonder why Obama ever picked Geitner.  Could you think of a worse person for the job as Treasury secretary?

    It had to be a payback favor....or Obama just has very poor judgement.

    The only Cabinet secretaries I have faith in are Gates and Clinton.

    Geitner rots....


    Who is cadging comp. (none / 0) (#1)
    by oculus on Thu Mar 11, 2010 at 07:48:05 PM EST
    wine at a reception for people interested in dance?

    I dunno, but hit the right parties (none / 0) (#7)
    by scribe on Thu Mar 11, 2010 at 08:01:53 PM EST
    and one can scrounge some pretty good wine.

    A friend once had to move some musical instruments or something into and then out of the French Embassy for some party or other, and some of the staff said "sure" when he asked if he could add a case or two of the leftovers to the load in the moving van.  Some of the best French white evvvvah, and the price made it even better.


    Learned tonight one of next year's (none / 0) (#22)
    by oculus on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 12:43:26 AM EST
    dance companies was formed by two guys who have choreographed some numbers for So You Think You Can Dance.  (Not a plus in my book, but then I have never watched the show.)  

    Giant sinus infection (none / 0) (#3)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 11, 2010 at 07:54:41 PM EST
    fever of 102.  No wonder my asthma was so bad this week.  I'm ready to be done now.

    So sorry, MT! (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by Zorba on Thu Mar 11, 2010 at 08:00:19 PM EST
    Take care of yourself, and I hope you feel better soon.

    Get well Tracy! (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by andgarden on Thu Mar 11, 2010 at 08:24:15 PM EST
    Oh, no! (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by gyrfalcon on Thu Mar 11, 2010 at 11:17:59 PM EST
    Major sympathies.

    Get better MT (5.00 / 1) (#33)
    by ruffian on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 09:07:44 AM EST
    I was fighting it too for a couple of weeks. Not fun at all. Still can't quite get rid of the cough.

    It can be a challenge down here (none / 0) (#63)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 11:31:19 AM EST
    I've never had a sinus infection until last year and this year.  I guess it is part of my body losing the allergy wars.  It took awhile though.  I may have been packing it around for a bit too and when I started taking the decongestant, stuff thinkened and things grew more.....ewwww :)

    I like Dr. Dyer (none / 0) (#4)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 11, 2010 at 07:55:20 PM EST
    but in smaller doses.

    Dyer lost me (none / 0) (#66)
    by jondee on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 11:52:44 AM EST
    when he came out in that hokey, Kung Fu: the Series outfit, with that cheesy Chinese restaurant backdrop, in order to teach the Tao Te Ching.

    I kept having flashbacks (pun intended), to Tim Leary, when he was doing his college guru circuit schtick.  


    A second mistrial for Hal Turner (none / 0) (#5)
    by scribe on Thu Mar 11, 2010 at 07:56:27 PM EST
    in the case of United States v. Hal Turner, blogger, internet radio talk show host, FBI informant and provacateur.

    Bad idea for him, though.  He took the stand this time, and the feds are going to go for the third trial, where they can use what he testified to in this trial, as part of their case in the next and can structure their case to turn his testimony against him.

    A vile individual (none / 0) (#11)
    by andgarden on Thu Mar 11, 2010 at 08:23:47 PM EST
    The Constitution protects both (none / 0) (#77)
    by scribe on Mon Mar 15, 2010 at 08:40:53 AM EST
    the vile and the not-so-vile.  This is an unalloyed good, since "vile" is one of those descriptions which lies solely within the eye of the beholder and, second, because such namecalling is always one of the first steps any would-be tyrant takes on hs road to imposing tyranny.

    Budget problems closing nearly half the schools (none / 0) (#8)
    by Inspector Gadget on Thu Mar 11, 2010 at 08:11:27 PM EST
    in KC MO

    probably just the first of many districts to make that decision.

    KC has some more issues than (none / 0) (#25)
    by jeffinalabama on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 08:22:26 AM EST
    just the budget. Heard on NPR that the student numbers are down 50 percent, also. existing schools with space for about 50,000-75,000 students, but less than 25,000 students in the district. The loss in students is very high.

    does KC allow charter schools? Just wondering if that's one of the areas of student loss, as well as population changes.


    NYT article (none / 0) (#27)
    by mmc9431 on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 08:39:20 AM EST
    The article I read attributed a lot of the problems facing KC squarely at the feet of the school board. It also mention an exodus to the burbs and charter schools.

    charter schools are budget cancers. (none / 0) (#43)
    by jeffinalabama on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 09:32:20 AM EST
    Agree (5.00 / 1) (#55)
    by mmc9431 on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 10:15:45 AM EST
    It's always been the goal of the Republican party to put a nail in the coffin of the public school system. Charter schools and vouchers are just one more attempt.

    Test results in Chicago haven't shown that charter schools have faired any better.


    The sixth grader I have tutored (none / 0) (#46)
    by oculus on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 09:40:08 AM EST
    since kindergarten started at a charter school this fall.  Kids won't be going to regular sixth grade camp, as it costs the school $20,000 to do it.  They just announced will continue free busing next school year.  Apparently that was in question.  Sounds like charter school is not treated the same as regular middle school.  Nevertheless, it is a wonderful educational opportunity for this young man.

    Glad to read it. On average there's (none / 0) (#50)
    by jeffinalabama on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 09:52:09 AM EST
    a slight decrease in measured performance at charters. Again, that's on average. Some are doing very well with certain specifics.

    They do take money from traditional schools, though, and often, but not always, collective bargaining is weakened.

    I think the area most affected by charter schools is in the at-risk programs. Successes there are small, but significant.

    Public k-12 education is a mess in too many ways beyond just charter schools, though. Multiple problems.


    This is a self-starter student. Very bright. (none / 0) (#51)
    by oculus on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 09:59:36 AM EST
    School is set up to admit only kids who qualify for federal school lunch program and neither of whose parents have graduated from a four-year college.  Most of the kids are Latino.  Goal is to get them ready for and into four-year colleges.  

    One criticism I have heard is charter school siphons off kids like him.  True.


    Saw a bumper sticker last weekend (none / 0) (#70)
    by Inspector Gadget on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 12:28:10 PM EST
    that read, "Education takes 13 years because that's how long it takes to crush a child's spirit."

    I can't believe Lilli Scott got sent home on Idol. (none / 0) (#9)
    by Angel on Thu Mar 11, 2010 at 08:15:53 PM EST
    It should have been Didi instead.  

    I don't watch AI, but, Angel, it's 6:23PM (none / 0) (#13)
    by Inspector Gadget on Thu Mar 11, 2010 at 08:25:20 PM EST
    on the west coast. Not sure what time AI will start here, but it's hours from revealing to the viewers in PST who is going home tonight.

    sheesh (none / 0) (#14)
    by waldenpond on Thu Mar 11, 2010 at 08:42:50 PM EST
    I should know better than to enter some posts.  :)

    Which one is (none / 0) (#15)
    by waldenpond on Thu Mar 11, 2010 at 08:45:46 PM EST
    Lilli?  I would be ok if the white haired woman that sings a little like Tiny Tim goes.

    Reality TV v. Real Life Lawmakers (none / 0) (#10)
    by Inspector Gadget on Thu Mar 11, 2010 at 08:20:36 PM EST
    Maybe it's just that compared to Jake and Vienna, Jason and Molly are a relief to watch. I hope Jakes gets eliminated in week one during DWTS. I'd rather watch Tom DeLay.

    I think I may have caught 5 minutes of Jake and Vienna, and that was enough for me to know they sparked zero interest in seeing another 5 minutes. And, it's hard for me to believe that Jake's short time in front of the public earned him a spot on the Stars side of DWTS. But, Jake has done nothing to impact the quality of the gov't that makes the laws I have to follow. I won't be watching DWTS this season -- Jake isn't the reason I won't watch, but he is one of the reasons I am not inspired to watch.

    Crys-tal! (none / 0) (#16)
    by sas on Thu Mar 11, 2010 at 09:11:01 PM EST

    You are number one!

    So, so talented.....

    Can't wait to see what she does (none / 0) (#17)
    by nycstray on Thu Mar 11, 2010 at 10:09:40 PM EST
    after AI. No matter where she ends up in the contest, I see a future. She seems really grounded also. Good things ahead for her I hope :)

    The MLB Channel (none / 0) (#23)
    by mmc9431 on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 07:32:37 AM EST
    They're broadcasting a lot of spring training games. It makes me think spring really is coming.

    it was so much fun (none / 0) (#30)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 08:57:51 AM EST
    watching FOX this morning.  talk about long faces.
    the poor things.  they are so SO concerned about the future of democrats who vote for this health care bill.

    so VERY concerned.   its really touching.   why wont the democrats listen they only have their best interests at heart.

    BWA HAHAHAHAHAHAHA hahahahahaha aahhhhh

    I will be watching a lot for the next couple of weeks.

    Looks like they see (none / 0) (#37)
    by CoralGables on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 09:14:57 AM EST
    the writing on the wall. The plan appears to be to vote on March 21 or 22 and then get all the fixes in place before Obama returns from Guam, Indonesia, and Australia on March 26 to sign the bill.

    they were saying (none / 0) (#41)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 09:20:26 AM EST
    this morning he might delay his trip?

    Leaving (none / 0) (#42)
    by CoralGables on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 09:27:26 AM EST
    March 21 now instead of the 18th and returning the 26th. The 26th is also the scheduled start for the Easter break so it all comes together nicely to be wrapped in a bow on the 26th. Congress always works faster when they want to go home.

    plus (none / 0) (#45)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 09:36:58 AM EST
    Im sure they do not want a repeat of what happened in last summers recess.

    ok (none / 0) (#34)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 09:10:24 AM EST
    since I was embarrassed to ask and could not stand to live in a world where there are sexual terms I do not understand, I just googled snorkeling.

    I wish I hadnt.

    not I can never unknow that.

    I watched the Bill Maher clip (none / 0) (#36)
    by ruffian on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 09:12:06 AM EST
    you posted yesterday and was also as clueless as he was. I'm not going to look it up!

    Don't use your imagination (none / 0) (#38)
    by CoralGables on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 09:16:53 AM EST
    then. It's all to obvious. Only question being who was the snorkel.

    not so sure (none / 0) (#40)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 09:19:56 AM EST
    it was not at all what I expected.

    ok (none / 0) (#47)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 09:41:56 AM EST
    just saw this at gawker:

    Clarke says a friend looked up "snorkeling" on Urban Dictionary after the story started getting around. Those definitions were slightly more obscene than theirs. "I was just using it as a substitute for oral copulation," he told me.

    slightly? (none / 0) (#49)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 09:46:25 AM EST

    dont (none / 0) (#39)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 09:19:21 AM EST
    it will haunt your dreams

    You know of course (none / 0) (#52)
    by jbindc on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 10:05:24 AM EST
    That kind of statement makes people want to go look it up now!

    I'll admit it made me go look (none / 0) (#54)
    by vml68 on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 10:11:24 AM EST
    it up... :-)!

    But judging from Cpt H's reaction, I don't think I read what he read. What I read was basically oral $ex.


    it seems to be a pretty (none / 0) (#57)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 10:21:37 AM EST
    versatile term.  who knew?

    Try the Urban Dictionary (none / 0) (#71)
    by jbindc on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 01:34:27 PM EST
    Some...um....very interesting (and versatile, as CH says) things.

    Apparently, I've led a very sheltered life because those things would never, ever occur to me.


    I would consider (none / 0) (#72)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 03:59:37 PM EST
    that a good sign, personally.

    they never occurred to ME for gods sake.


    in that case (none / 0) (#56)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 10:20:05 AM EST
    you definitely DO NOT want to find tub girl

    I just got a Survivor boot list (none / 0) (#35)
    by ruffian on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 09:11:03 AM EST
    that has been right so far. I'm not sure if I like having the list, but having watched the show so long the old fashioned way, I was ready to try seeing things unfold knowing the outcome (at least to the final 3). Makes it interesting to see the moves when they happen, knowing the consequences down the road.

    Just another way to watch the show.

    Progressives learning h.c. lesson? (none / 0) (#65)
    by CST on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 11:36:18 AM EST
    Making noises about financial reform.  Saying they won't vote for a bill that isn't strong enough.  Goading Republicans into voting against very popular reform in an election year.  I think they're starting to realize they need something to run ON in the fall.

    Lets hope they stick to their guns this time.