Saturday College Football Open Thread

7-7 last week. 49-52-1 on the season. Yanks out. Gators in tatters. But today begins a new run. Let's start with the Missouri Tigers playing at home against BCS #1 Oklahoma. I like the Tigers (+4) at home. I've now watched 3 Oklahoma games and 2 Mizzou games. Oklahoma is not that good and Mizzou is better than I thought. The emotion of playing at home can carry them through.

I've become a believer in Auburn. I think they are going to win the SEC. And it starts by giving LSU a beatdown today at home. I love Auburn (-6) in this game. A 10 unit play. More . . .

Georgia has woken up. And I think they win the rest of their games and maybe, the SEC East. The Dawgs (-4) over Kentucky. A 5 unit play.

Iowa has it going now and Kirk Ferentz never lets up the accelerator. I like Iowa (-6) over a Wisconsin team that had everything go right last week at home in the big upset over Ohio State.

In other games, I like Bama (-17) over Tennessee, Notre Dame (-7) over Navy, Minnesota (+10) over Penn State (a reflection on Penn State), Mich St. (-6) over Northwestern (I believe in the Spartans this year), Indiana (+14) over Illinois (Zook should never be a 14 point fav over anybody), Ole Miss (+10) over Arkansas, Wyoming (+11) over BYU, Okla State (+6) over Nerbaska (the wheels start to come off the Huskers now), Texas Tech (-3) over Colorado, South Carolina (-12) over Vandy, and Washington (+7) over Arizona.

Open Thread.

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    Beating OK is always a nice thought (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by Maryb2004 on Sat Oct 23, 2010 at 11:36:21 AM EST
    and you're doing so well on Missouri.  Just make sure you don't use up the mojo before we get to Kansas.

    Oldest grandson is on his way to (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by MO Blue on Sat Oct 23, 2010 at 12:20:29 PM EST
    Columbia even as I type. He along with other classmates are stopping off there before heading back to Truman tomorrow. Mizzou Campus is packed.

    I am all in favor of a Mizzou win. (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by caseyOR on Sat Oct 23, 2010 at 03:43:00 PM EST
    Yes, mostly because I am an Oregon Ducks fan, but I do have a soft spot for the Tigers. They are the only team in their conference I do not actively dislike.

    So, Go, Tigers! Win one for the Ducks.


    One good cheer deserves another (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by MO Blue on Sat Oct 23, 2010 at 04:09:31 PM EST
    even though I know nothing about the Ducks. Go, Ducks! Go, Tigers! Win one for the Ducks.

    I'm still trying to (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by brodie on Sat Oct 23, 2010 at 08:18:53 PM EST
    remember whether Columbia is the capital of MO, or whether that's Jefferson City, and whether in Columbia they pronounce it Missour-ee or Missour-uh.

    Strange kinda divided state that can't even come together on pronouncing the state name, let alone come together on politics.

    That said, I'll easily root for the Purple state MO Tigers tonight over solidly Red from OK Sooners.


    the capital (none / 0) (#25)
    by Maryb2004 on Sat Oct 23, 2010 at 08:30:55 PM EST
    is Jefferson City (the whole Louisiana Purchase thing).

    I suspect Columbia is a Missourah city but I'm not sure.


    Columbia is a (none / 0) (#26)
    by MO Blue on Sat Oct 23, 2010 at 09:03:04 PM EST
    pocket of blue within the state. Nice town with interesting people.

    Definitely a divided state and has been since before the Civil War.


    Thank you, Mizzou. (none / 0) (#30)
    by caseyOR on Sat Oct 23, 2010 at 10:50:28 PM EST
    Great win over the Sooners 36-27. And your win knocks Oklahoma out of the # 1 spot.

    Oregon Ducks, currently # 1 in the human polls, should now move up to No. 1 in the BCS also.

    Let's hope the Ducks can hang on to the top spot.


    Per ESPN, this is the 1st 7 - 0 (none / 0) (#32)
    by MO Blue on Sat Oct 23, 2010 at 11:09:22 PM EST
    start for Mizzou in 50 years. They are doing great.

    Go Mizzou! Touchdown on the first play of the game (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by mogal on Sat Oct 23, 2010 at 07:17:47 PM EST

    Exciting game so far (none / 0) (#27)
    by MO Blue on Sat Oct 23, 2010 at 10:05:42 PM EST
    Mizzou playing tough. Need defense to hold them.

    Ah, at last acknowledgement (5.00 / 1) (#36)
    by oculus on Sun Oct 24, 2010 at 12:01:17 AM EST
    it is time for World Series. Go Giants. I must say Gameday is better than nothing but I hope the series goes to 7 games so I can catch the last couple games.

    Now I'll get interested (5.00 / 1) (#38)
    by ruffian on Sun Oct 24, 2010 at 06:51:37 AM EST
    Go Giants!

    Had no real rooting interest in any of the teams, but Giants come closest.


    Easy choice really (none / 0) (#40)
    by cal1942 on Sun Oct 24, 2010 at 10:49:13 PM EST
    Giants are in a blue state and the Texas Rangers ... nuff said.  Junior's team.

    Plus, the Giants are an original franchise and the Rangers aren't.


    blue state/red state (none / 0) (#42)
    by CST on Mon Oct 25, 2010 at 09:37:11 AM EST
    It was a very weird feeling rooting for Texas.  Then again, if Osama Bin Laden had a baseball team I'd probably root for them against the Yankees...  And the A-Roid strike-out was pretty great.

    Now that the evil empire is out, go Giants!


    Maybe Auburn the dog will have a great (5.00 / 1) (#41)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Oct 25, 2010 at 09:03:14 AM EST
    year too.  Maybe it wasn't so horrible that I really screwed up naming her an official name of Go Bama with the call name Auburn.  Just covering all my bets man!  She is already a UKC Champion, she will be two years old in February and that is about when I would be trying to get her AKC championship.  If she ever has puppies I suppose we will have to name the biggest boy Cam or Newton :)

    Nick Fairley (5.00 / 1) (#43)
    by jeffinalabama on Mon Oct 25, 2010 at 11:25:06 AM EST
    More appropriate for the biggest, anyway ;-). Someone said this morning that "he was playin' like they said somethin' mean about his momma."

    Baby Digby is looking really good too (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Oct 25, 2010 at 12:00:00 PM EST
    I mean really good.  I'm thinking about taking her to her first UKC show soon.

    Often you get two big boys (none / 0) (#44)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Oct 25, 2010 at 11:58:25 AM EST
    in the same litter, and you spend the last two weeks with them "breaking it up".  We've got the names

    BTD (none / 0) (#1)
    by lentinel on Sat Oct 23, 2010 at 10:31:13 AM EST
    I am interested in your opinion on Pete Rose.

    Specifically - it seems he is barred from baseball and consideration from the hall of fame on the grounds that he bet on baseball games.

    It seems to me that the only dishonorable thing would have been if he had bet on his team to lose and then went about flubbing the game in order to collect. From what I have read, he has not been accused of that. If he bet on his team to win, and then went about doing everything he could to see that they did in fact win, I can't find any fault with him.

    Your thoughts on this would be welcome.

    Not that you asked me. (5.00 / 0) (#8)
    by Tony on Sat Oct 23, 2010 at 12:25:26 PM EST
    IMO, a manager betting on his own team, even betting on his own team to win, is extremely problematic.  He could, for instance, burn his bullpen when he ordinarily would not, compromising future games.  Or use a player he knew to be injured in a desperate attempt to cash a bet.

    Baseball will forgive many sins, but a person associated with the game betting on the sport is not one of them.  The Hall of Fame is of course a different entity from Major League Baseball and could induct him on their own, but their rules explicitly state that anyone banned from the game is ineligible from consideration.


    Good points, Tony. (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by brodie on Sat Oct 23, 2010 at 08:11:46 PM EST
    Baseball can forgive a lot of low-life activity off the field, and has basically accepted that players will use whatever performance-enhancing substances and devices -- from greenies to steroids, a pitcher cutting the ball or applying saliva or vaseline to it, a hitter fooling with too much pine tar or using cork -- in order to gain an advantage or, as he might see it, keep up with the Joneses.

    Betting on the game, however, is a whole nother kettle of fish, and traditionally the people who run the game tend to draw the line firmly on that one.  The Black Sox Scandal of 1919 made a huge mark on the game, and with all the books and movies that deal with it, it's never been forgotten.

    Pete Rosé might make himself eligible with a genuine and sincere turnaround in his attitude towards gambling and betting on baseball.  But last I checked, he's still out there playing the ponies, and still insinuating that betting is okay so long as you're betting on your team to win.

    Of course, with the barely semi-principled Bud Selig still running things, and with the embarrassment of the Steroid Era happening on his watch, he might think re-instating PR and making him eligible will help remove some of the remaining stigma of the PED Era players getting into the HoF, or sort of put all these controversies to bed with one "magnanimous" stroke.  I suspect PR will be made eligible on Selig's watch; just a question of when.


    Um, no. (none / 0) (#2)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Sat Oct 23, 2010 at 10:50:50 AM EST
    One thing that drives us Hawk fans crazy about Coach Kirk is that when we get a lead, he does let off the accelerator--the offense gets more conservative in an effort to let the air out of the clock.  

    Sure it helps to have one of the best defenses in the country to rely on, but giving the ball to A-Rob (our only healthy RB with experience) 30+ times a game is a worry.

    You can take the Coach out of the NFL, but you can't take the NFL out of the Coach.  I blame Belichick.

    That being said--Go Hawks!  

    Ricky's the man. (none / 0) (#9)
    by Natal on Sat Oct 23, 2010 at 12:50:24 PM EST
    Boy, oh boy... (none / 0) (#19)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Sat Oct 23, 2010 at 07:10:32 PM EST
    ...losing by one point at home in game it sounds like they should have won?  Good thing I was out on the golf course enjoying a beautiful Fall Rocky Mountain day and saved myself the heartache/attack of watching that!  

    Way to go Iowa State...


    I just read to Joshua what you (none / 0) (#3)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Oct 23, 2010 at 11:06:18 AM EST
    said about Auburn.  He's jumping all over the house hooting War Eagle.

    BTD- what is your call on Crist v Meek? (none / 0) (#4)
    by ruffian on Sat Oct 23, 2010 at 11:06:58 AM EST
    I was out of state most of the week dealing with family matters and am totally out of the loop as to whether either has a shot against Rubio. Getting ready to fill out my absentee ballot.

    One thing is certain. politics is really stupid. Catching up on the news today. The whole Juan Williams thing is just stupidity compounded on stupidity.


    The Promise - HBO documentary about Springsteen's (none / 0) (#10)
    by ruffian on Sat Oct 23, 2010 at 01:29:34 PM EST
    Darkness on the Edge of Town. kdog was asking about it a few weeks ago and I finally got around to watching it last night. I loved the old footage of the band rehearsing and recording the record. It really showed the craft of making a record. The Boss really was the boss and had an idea in his head of what he wanted to achieve, and worked until he got it. That is my favorite of his records, so I appreciate the work that went in to it.

    The interviews confirmed the themes that so resonated with me when I first got into Springsteen in my mid-20's - a little late to the game. This record had been out 5 yrs or so before I discovered it. But as it happens I was about the same age Bruce was when he recorded it, and he was dealing with the themes of becoming an adult in the world, and how you deal with the new feelings and frustrations that can bring. This was the early 80s for me, during the last so-called 'economic recovery'. Like so many now, I was underemployed and wondering if I would ever have the life I wanted (in a lot of ways I still do). It took a lot of love and faith in life to see me through, and I got some of it from this record. I highly recommend 'The Promised Land' and 'Badlands' to young people going through that now. They truly helped my sister and I, and we are Bruce fanatics 25 years later.

    I think the doc captures a lot of that, plus the joys of being in a band and making music.

    Les Miles... (none / 0) (#15)
    by Tony on Sat Oct 23, 2010 at 06:06:23 PM EST
    I don't know what to say.  How he ever won a national title is beyond me.

    I say (none / 0) (#16)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Oct 23, 2010 at 06:19:43 PM EST
    God bless Les Miles! If not for him, I would be losing my shirt today.

    Instead I am in decent shape.


    Go Stoops. (none / 0) (#22)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Sat Oct 23, 2010 at 07:26:26 PM EST
    In the absence of caring about either team, I guess I'll root for my old classmate.

    Actually Syracuse 19, WVirginia 14 (none / 0) (#28)
    by PatHat on Sat Oct 23, 2010 at 10:30:38 PM EST
    And that was a fantastic game for the Orange. Their defense was just awesome. If they could get some offense, they might have a very good year.

    Uh-oh, my cube mate is a Mountaneer (none / 0) (#39)
    by ruffian on Sun Oct 24, 2010 at 06:53:32 AM EST
    Gonna be a rough Monday. Thanks for the warning.

    Orange October it is! (none / 0) (#29)
    by nycstray on Sat Oct 23, 2010 at 10:48:32 PM EST
    Go Giants!!!!

    That was quite a nail bitter (none / 0) (#33)
    by cpresley on Sat Oct 23, 2010 at 11:25:57 PM EST
    Go Giants.

    Go Giants! (none / 0) (#34)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Sat Oct 23, 2010 at 11:41:46 PM EST
    Win it for NL West and real baseball!

    I'll take Bill Neukom over winger Nolan Ryan too.


    Yes it is (none / 0) (#35)
    by Stellaaa on Sat Oct 23, 2010 at 11:48:17 PM EST
    Go Giants.  

    Yes, GO, GIANTS! n/t (none / 0) (#37)
    by caseyOR on Sun Oct 24, 2010 at 01:17:00 AM EST