Sunday Night Open Thread

I've tried, but I just don't like Boardwalk Empire. It's depressing, viscerally unappealing and the characters are completely one-dimensional. I don't care about any of them. I also don't think Steve Buschemi was a good choice for the lead character.

At least there's a new Next Iron Chef, Desperate Housewives and Brothers and Sisters.

This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    who wants to bet (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 09:30:28 AM EST
    there is a fist fight in a political debate before november?

    I worry about being in two war (none / 0) (#12)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 09:44:51 AM EST
    zones right now and the American people so strained all they can do is focus on themselves and their families and today.  Public opinion and public outrage is important when you are a military super power.  Having a very stressed out population and being at war is an open invitation for crazy horrible things to happen.

    also (none / 0) (#13)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 09:49:14 AM EST
    if some of these yahoos win its a safe bet that internationally viral fistfights on the floor of the house will be our new national low point next year.

    South Korea does it for its (none / 0) (#14)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 10:11:03 AM EST
    theater value, to show the people who is fighting about what and who :)  We will probably look like the Ukraine after a little practice.

    Some people do (none / 0) (#15)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 10:17:46 AM EST
    know how to pitch the best b*tch.  We have a lot to learn.

    Nah - not even close (none / 0) (#16)
    by jbindc on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 11:15:54 AM EST
    It's happened several times before.

    There are these good ones:

    Despite these episodes, there is a persuasive argument to be made that, when seen in historical context, recent decades have seen advances in matters of decorum and civility on the House floor. Instances of far more severe violence among Members of Congress were common in the 18th and 19th centuries. For example, in 1789, two Members brawled on the House floor using a cane and fire tong. In 1793, a House Member responded to a lingering dispute with a former Member by challenging him to a duel outside of the Capitol and killing him. In 1832, Rep. Sam Houston was formally reprimanded by the House for attacking Rep. William Stanbery with his cane. Stanbery's response was to shoot at Houston, but his pistol misfired. A duel between two freshmen Congressmen in 1838 ended in the death of one. In 1838, Rep. Abram Maury and Rep. William Campbell came to blows behind the Speaker's chair on the House floor. Campbell beat Maury bloody. In separate incidents in 1840, Rep. Jesse Bynum attacked Rep. Rice Garland with a cane, while Representatives Kenneth Rayner and William Montgomery broke canes over each other's heads.

    And then, there was the infamous beating of Sen. Charles Sumner by Representative Preston Brooks with a cane on the Senate floor.

    Senator Charles Sumner of Massachusetts was an avowed Abolitionist and leader of the Republican Party. After the sack of Lawrence, on May 21, 1856, he gave a bitter speech in the Senate called "The Crime Against Kansas." He blasted the "murderous robbers from Missouri," calling them "hirelings, picked from the drunken spew and vomit of an uneasy civilization." Part of this oratory was a bitter, personal tirade against South Carolina's Senator Andrew Butler. Sumner declared Butler an imbecile and said, "Senator Butler has chosen a mistress. I mean the harlot, slavery." During the speech, Stephen Douglas leaned over to a colleague and said, "that damn fool will get himself killed by some other damn fool." The speech went on for two days.

    Representative Preston Brooks of South Carolina thought Sumner went too far. Southerners in the nineteenth century were raised to live by an unwritten code of honor. Defending the reputation of one's family was at the top of the list. A distant cousin of Senator Butler, Brooks decided to teach Charles Sumner a lesson he would not soon forget. Two days after the end of Sumner's speech, Brooks entered the Senate chamber where Sumner was working at his desk. He flatly told Sumner, "You've libeled my state and slandered my white-haired old relative, Senator Butler, and I've come to punish you for it." Brooks proceeded to strike Sumner over the head repeatedly with a gold-tipped cane. The cane shattered as Brooks rained blow after blow on the hapless Sumner, but Brooks could not be stopped. Only after being physically restrained by others did Brooks end the pummeling.

    Today, they are just spewing hateful and stupid words at each other.

    Now, if we could get C-SPAN to cover a cage match between Harry Reid and Jeff Sessions....(Harry Reid WAS a boxer, you know!)


    I'd love to see Reid pop Sessions (none / 0) (#22)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 01:55:14 PM EST
    about three times before being wrestled and hustled away,  I'd personally pay any bail, fines, and legal fees too but what would this fight be about?  Certainly not about allowing nationwide notary and legal document fraud :)

    thats not only pre intertubes (none / 0) (#25)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 02:10:38 PM EST
    it pre radio.  me thinks it would be a bigger deal now.

    It's Masterpiece Mystery for me. (none / 0) (#1)
    by caseyOR on Sun Oct 17, 2010 at 09:19:09 PM EST
    The Kurt Wallander mysteries are quite a bit, well, darker than Inspector Lewis and the other British police shows (Prime Suspect excluded).

    Kenneth Branaugh, in the title role, does an interesting job of portraying the very sad, lost and kind of depressed and depressing Wallander. Also, I've never been to Sweden, but if it is as dreary and dark as it appears in these episodes, well, I wonder of the entire country is gulping handsful of psychotropic drugs.

    Still and all, the show is very well done. It's appointment TV for me.

    Boy, these Wallander mysteries are (none / 0) (#3)
    by tigercourse on Sun Oct 17, 2010 at 09:43:16 PM EST
    really, really, really depressing. He's basically Morse squared. The cinematography is some of the best I've ever seen. And Branaugh has clearly matured alot as an actor from the days where he was shouting every line in Hamlet.

    Overall (none / 0) (#17)
    by nyjets on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 12:16:11 PM EST
    Masterpiece Mystery is a great series. While there are some decent American mysteries, overall, the British have us beat.

    I like Boardwalk Empire. (none / 0) (#2)
    by StephenAG on Sun Oct 17, 2010 at 09:30:56 PM EST
    I'm also a fan of the genre. And I like Chalky and his hustle. Because sometimes that's what you gotta do to survive.

    On BBC, "Luther" is premiering with two (2) episodes tonight. Seems interesting to me; it will be on the ol' DVR after I finish with the Amazing Race (pacific time). Rubicon looked good this year; I might check it out fully when its released on DVD.

    I'm completely into it too (none / 0) (#6)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 08:30:29 AM EST
    And Dexter is on again too.  Sunday is a big TV night for me.

    I like BWE too (none / 0) (#7)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 09:19:25 AM EST
    and love me some Dexter.  I missed it last night.

    glad its on all week.


    I have to agree re BE (none / 0) (#4)
    by Cream City on Sun Oct 17, 2010 at 10:53:40 PM EST
    and I always have so enjoyed Buscemi -- and history -- but I gave it a few episodes and finally gave up on it a week ago.  I'm also looking BBCward again.

    I guess that's (none / 0) (#5)
    by lentinel on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 04:33:05 AM EST
    what makes horse-racing - differences of opinion.

    I like Buscemi.
    The guy who plays the young Al Capone is insane.
    The guy who plays the feverish policeman is also insane.

    I think that they have some originality as portrayals.

    The gratuitous sex that is sprinkled throughout is a drag, however.
    Why they have to do that is beyond me. And the director or producer or writer's preference is rather obvious since it reappears in every episode. Ick.

    But the era is, I think, faithfully executed. Of course, I wasn't there, but it does evoke a true sense of being there in another time.

    And - of course - each episode reminds me of the stupidity and consequences of making a product that everyone wants illegal.

    "that everyone wants illegal" (none / 0) (#8)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 09:20:15 AM EST
    that almost seems like the core message of the series

    Shades of cocaine and heroin... (none / 0) (#11)
    by kdog on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 09:41:36 AM EST
    modern-day prohibition in last night's episode...talking about boatloads of booze hitting the ports, were it is then cut with poisons to increase bootlegger profits.  

    I was like "just like coke today!".

    Boy are we stupid.


    'Dog... (none / 0) (#20)
    by lentinel on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 01:29:49 PM EST
    What do you think of these?
    I like them. I thought you might.

    Marshall Ephon makes sardine rarebit.

    Marshall Ephon makes lemon cream pie.


    No sound capabilities... (none / 0) (#23)
    by kdog on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 01:57:33 PM EST
    right now lentinel, I'll check 'em out later...Thanks!

    RIP Benoit Mandelbrot (none / 0) (#9)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 09:22:33 AM EST
    Benoit Mandelbrot, who died on October 14 aged 85, was largely responsible
    for developing the discipline of fractal geometry - the study of rough or
    fragmented geometric shapes or processes that have similar properties at all
    levels of magnification or across all times.

    seems he had (none / 0) (#19)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 01:03:11 PM EST
    his fingers in more than computer imaging.

    The Misbehavior of Markets: A Fractal View of Financial Turbulence

    Benoit Mandelbrot (Author)
    Richard L. Hudson (Author)


    fractal art (none / 0) (#24)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 02:04:25 PM EST
    And I have been so concerned (none / 0) (#18)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 12:45:40 PM EST
    about where the note to my mortgage is that I haven't even been able to celebrate that retired Gen. James Jones is leaving the House...the White House that is.  It is said to be because of the things he said to Bob Woodward that were printed the new book.  I've always thought the guy was a whining back stabbing buffoon.  I won't be missing seeing his name in lights.

    Hey, kos has up that the new (none / 0) (#21)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Oct 18, 2010 at 01:41:51 PM EST
    Quail is beginning to lose when it comes to polling.