Logrolling In Our Time: Part 2

aimai wrote:

Time was a journalist wanted to be read, and remembered for what he'd written. A “public intellectual?” Even more so. But to want that is to be determined to stand behind what you've written or what you've said. . . . But Klein doesn't want to do that—he's said too many stupid things at this point. Too many venial, corrupt, weak, vile, bought and paid for political puff balls. He said things he knew his interlocutor wanted him to say. He's said things he knew one party wanted him to say although he knew that they were untrue, or dangerous, or foolish, or just partial. He's not a public intellectual—he's a [effing] wind sock. And he knows it.

Markos wrote:

Kennedy historians think it's bulls[p]it that he'd compromise the public option, as some have idiotically suggested.

(Emphasis supplied.) Funny how no one ever mentions that "some" include Ezra Klein, Matt Yglesias and others like them.

aimai expresses a wonderful sentiment, but "progressive" blogs never focus their "accountability" on their own. This is logrolling in our time.

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    I believe (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by Steve M on Tue Sep 01, 2009 at 03:18:13 PM EST
    that you have not done justice to the correct spelling of aimai's screen name.

    You are correct sir (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Sep 01, 2009 at 03:20:56 PM EST
    I believe (none / 0) (#8)
    by The Addams Family on Tue Sep 01, 2009 at 06:33:26 PM EST
    that aimai has not done justice to the correct spelling of "venal" (which is not the same word as "venial").

    Actually, read the comments (none / 0) (#9)
    by Inspector Gadget on Tue Sep 01, 2009 at 06:43:57 PM EST
    she explains that she did choose that word carefully and gives the meaning of both words...

    oh, and she does say either word could have appropriately been used, though she used the word she wanted to.


    Not buying it (none / 0) (#11)
    by The Addams Family on Tue Sep 01, 2009 at 10:43:17 PM EST
    The string of adjectives--"venial, corrupt, weak, vile, bought and paid for"--calls out for "venal."

    I don't see anything in her post that resonates with "pardonable" or "minor" (i.e., venal), not even "weak," since even weakness serves here as a reason to tear the loathesome Klein a new one (and good on her for doing that).

    She can say whatever she wants ex post facto, but I think it was a simple error that could easily have been corrected. The mystery is why she doesn't just fix it instead of trying to explain it away. Silly.


    I am interested (5.00 / 3) (#2)
    by lilburro on Tue Sep 01, 2009 at 03:18:35 PM EST
    to see what arguments people on the blogs can make for not targeting Klein and Yglesias.  I know they must be out there.

    Ezra's blogging over the past year has been upsetting but it's even more so because he's one of the few people who dedicate themselves to healthcare as an issue and are (or were) trustworthy in the blogosphere.  Taibbi is too over the top for me.  Hullabaloo still works for me for the most part, and of course Krugman.

    In the United States we refrain from (none / 0) (#6)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Sep 01, 2009 at 04:43:28 PM EST
    beating children :)  We are supposed to be relying on consequences but we wouldn't want to break anyone's spirit :)

    The fact that progressive blogs even (none / 0) (#4)
    by ruffian on Tue Sep 01, 2009 at 04:12:43 PM EST
    consider Klein one of their own is mind-blowing enough to me.

    I mean Joe Klein, not Ezra (none / 0) (#5)
    by ruffian on Tue Sep 01, 2009 at 04:13:33 PM EST
    Which blogs are those? (none / 0) (#7)
    by gyrfalcon on Tue Sep 01, 2009 at 05:04:21 PM EST
    Logrolling in Our Time (none / 0) (#10)
    by kaleidescope on Tue Sep 01, 2009 at 10:40:17 PM EST
    That makes me nostalgic for Spy.