Carradine Autopsy: Not Suicide, Says Baden

By Jeralyn, Section Media
Posted on Thu Jun 11, 2009 at 02:56:34 PM EST
Tags: David Carradine (all tags)

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Forensic Pathologist Michael Baden has performed an autopsy on actor David Carradine, who was found dead in his Bangkok hotel room last week. His conclusion:

"The autopsy findings and the evidence thus far available demonstrate that Mr. Carradine's death was not the result of suicide. However, to reach a final determination as to the cause and the manner of death we must wait for further information from Thailand as to the scene findings and the completion of the crime laboratory and toxicology studies that are still being performed."

Is he saying it could be a homicide, or that the death was accidental, and therefore not a suicide?

In related news, Spike TV will air a movie marathon of Carradine's films, including 'Kill Bill' and 'Kung Fu Killer,' on Saturday, June 13 from 2 p.m. through 3 a.m. EST/PST time.

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of course Carridine is a "public (5.00 / 1) (#8)
by oculus on Thu Jun 11, 2009 at 05:15:22 PM EST

Figure.". Nevertheless I feel very sad for his family.

Me too (5.00 / 1) (#26)
by ruffian on Thu Jun 11, 2009 at 07:53:20 PM EST

Even the public speculation on the better behaved blogs like this one is more than I would want going on about my brother. The price you pay for fame I suppose, as cliche as that sounds.


: It's difficult losing anyone you love (5.00 / 0) (#32)
by Militarytracy on Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 04:37:09 AM EST

add fame and strange circumstances to that, must make everything very difficult on the remaining Carradine living.

Accidental (none / 0) (#1)
by Slado on Thu Jun 11, 2009 at 04:00:20 PM EST

Carradine was into some kinky stuff and from what I've read took it too far and accidentally killed himself masturbating. By the way he was found wearing a wig and women's stockings.

It's possible someone was in the room but this appears to be weird sex gone bad and very tragic.

RIP

He was rubbing one out? (none / 0) (#2)
by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu Jun 11, 2009 at 04:31:25 PM EST

Police said he was found with his hands bound together above his head

It's called erotic aphyxsiation (none / 0) (#10)
by Slado on Thu Jun 11, 2009 at 05:19:08 PM EST

Since I'm not into it I'm not going to explain it but feel free to use google.

Look I'm not judging the guy but if you're going to speculate about murder or some kind of foul play you have to talk about the other likely scenerio which is "kinky self-sex gone bad".

Again. RIP


Oh I agree, I just can't figure out (none / 0) (#15)
by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu Jun 11, 2009 at 05:35:19 PM EST

how he could masturbate if his hands were tied behind his back or head.

I think someone else must have been giving him a hand.

So to speak.


Google it (none / 0) (#30)
by gyrfalcon on Thu Jun 11, 2009 at 11:19:29 PM EST

That's not the way it works.


: At this point, (none / 0) (#36)
by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 11:01:39 AM EST

I think I'll just take your word for it.

Or (none / 0) (#3)
by TeresaInSnow2 on Thu Jun 11, 2009 at 04:42:01 PM EST

someone wanted him to be found that way...


Weird sex gone bad: (none / 0) (#7)
by jondee on Thu Jun 11, 2009 at 05:04:26 PM EST

that's my latest theory about what went wrong with the Bush Admin.


Zing.... (none / 0) (#22)
by kdog on Thu Jun 11, 2009 at 06:28:38 PM EST

I have my suspicions about Cheney having a collection of snuff to rival Hoover.


Cheney gets off (none / 0) (#33)
by Slado on Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 07:53:57 AM EST

on American world domination.

Simple as that, and I like the guy.

He's too busy for cheap sex.


: Not cheap sex.... (none / 0) (#35)
by kdog on Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 09:04:31 AM EST

I'm talking snuff...tell me he don't look and act like the kind of freak who would be into that sick sh*t.
Maybe that's why Obama won't release anymore photos...Cheney has 'em all in his private stash:)

Unfortunately (none / 0) (#31)
by gyrfalcon on Thu Jun 11, 2009 at 11:21:27 PM EST

his family and friends are loudly insisting there was some kind of foul play involved. There's no way to explain why there probably wasn't without getting into the tawdry details.

I agree, though, too much information.


Hands being tied is highly suggestive of homicide! (none / 0) (#4)
by Mitch Guthman on Thu Jun 11, 2009 at 04:48:26 PM EST

I find certain aspects of this story very confusing. According to some of the press reports I read, when David Carradine was found, his hands were tied behind his back. If this is so, I don't understand why the Thai police seemed to have operated on the assumption that it was "probably" a suicide and were later "forced" to backtrack and consider the "remote possibility" of homicide.

Now, I admit I was not the greatest homicide prosecutor and it's also true that in the 1980's when I was working homicides there was very little ambiguity about things like "cause of death" or "homicide vs. suicide." Generally, the large number of bullet holes in the victim(s) and large number of 9mm shell casings were a pretty good clue that you were dealing with murder, not suicide. But still, I can't imagine that the first thought of even the greenest patrol officer coming upon that crime scene and finding the victim with his hands tied behind his back would be suicide.

If it's true that Carradine's hands were tied behind his back, one place I'd be looking if I were running this investigation is the cops who ca