Thursday Morning Weather Thread

The river in Fargo, N.D. continues to rise, threatening a first-ever evacuation of the town.

“I don’t care how old you are,” Mr. Walaker said. “You haven’t seen this in the valley.”....In this city of 90,000, the state’s most populous, political leaders, who met in an emergency session late Wednesday afternoon, said they expected to announce an evacuation plan on Thursday. The mayor said an evacuation had never been tried in Fargo, even after a major tornado more than half a century ago.

Colorado now has blizzard warnings for much of the state (and Denver.) It's 7:00 a.m. in Denver, and the snow here has just started to fall. Right now, there's less than an inch on the ground outside my house. But the news sounds dire, Denver could get up to 19 inches.

I'm taking a snow day and going to work from home. How's the weather where you are?[Hat tip to Skippy who made the picture for us during a prior year's blizzard.]

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    Weather's fine by me (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by scribe on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 08:35:57 AM EST
    When I took the dog for her morning walk, pre-dawn (I couldn't sleep and she was yowling in her sleep, so it was time for both of us to get up), there were a couple mockingbirds having a song contest, working the whole repertoire.

    Bulbs - crocus, hyacinth, daffodil, tulip - are showing a good 6-8 inches of greenery but no flower buds yet.  My roses are pushing leaf buds.

    Spring's coming.

    The daffadils have wilted away here (5.00 / 2) (#9)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 09:24:20 AM EST
    and azaleas and the dogwoods are hard at it now.  The cardinals and blue birds and some jays are about.  The birds seem more colorful here than in Colorado and I never did see cardinals or blue birds there.  I need to rehang the hummingbird feeder today.  We have finally encouraged a nice batch hanging out here and don't want to lose any of them. Last year I saw some of my first hummingbird tussles due to some competition at the feeder, fiesty little dudes.

    I have a lot of birds this year (5.00 / 1) (#35)
    by BarnBabe on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 10:53:46 AM EST
    In NE PA, cloudy, expecting rain, warming up.
    My lilac tree has buds.

    As for the birds. I always had bird feeders off my back deck where a huge apple tree shaded. Last October storm saw the fall of my tree and the bird feeders. My friend moved it to my other small apple orchard and as I look out my bathroom window and kitchen window everyday, can now see all the different birds at my feeders. I never knew before. The seed would just be gone. I have a red Cardinal and Mrs Cardinal (brown), 2 blue Jays, Yellow Finches, Red Finches, Red Wing Black Birds, 2 Pigeons, 5 Doves, tons of Chickadees and black birds. Are they Martins? Everyday when I get home from work at 5, the one pigeon, shows up on my 2nd story roof and watches me walk the dog. I am getting such a delight this year watching the different array of birds. And let's not forget the Robins all over the lawn going for the worms. It is awesome to watch. Such a tweet.


    They are very territorial... (none / 0) (#12)
    by easilydistracted on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 09:35:52 AM EST
    I love to watch them around the feeder. We had one last year that would sit at the very top of an old oak tree and keep a close eye on the feeder. He would immediately swoop down on and chase away any interloper attempting to feed at "his" feeder. I love that high-pitched chatter when they get testy with one another.  

    Maybe we need two feeders this year (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 09:45:09 AM EST
    Cool soul nourishing entertainment reasonably priced.

    I ended up with three feeders (none / 0) (#61)
    by sallywally on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 01:08:37 PM EST
    at various sides of the house two summers ago, but they jut flew at each other at all of them! It was nice to see them from three rooms though.

    Last year I kept two feeders in our garden off the screened porch and the distance between them seemed ok with them. Toward the end of the summer, though, they got very territorial. The local bird store said that gets most intense when they're trying to gain their weight for the journey south. First the males, then the females, then the just-grown babies last.


    It has been unseasonably warm here in MO (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by MO Blue on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 09:25:37 AM EST
    Flowers and flowering trees already in bloom. We have had temperatures in the high seventies this early in the season and today is forecasted to get up to 66 degrees. On a sour note, the current forecast indicates a chance for snow on Saturday, Not good for the flowers or for me since I have an early morning appointment that day.

    Help for the snowed in (5.00 / 1) (#20)
    by SOS on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 10:05:42 AM EST
    Information Age Prayer is a site that charges you a monthly fee to say prayers for you. A typical charge is $4.95 per month to say three prayers specified by you each day.

    "We use state of the art text to speech synthesizers to voice each prayer at a volume and speed equivalent to typical person praying," the company states. "Each prayer is voiced individually, with the name of the subscriber displayed on screen."

    Every neuron in my brain just misfired :) (5.00 / 4) (#21)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 10:07:42 AM EST
    Modern Day (5.00 / 2) (#47)
    by sj on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 12:04:06 PM EST

    Now that's something I didn't expect to see.


    LOL.... (none / 0) (#22)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 10:14:46 AM EST
    If there is a god, I'm sure he/she/it can tell the difference between a human being and a computer.

    Hesheit would probably feel like we do when we make a phone call and the recording picks up instead of a human...annoyed.


    EGADS!! Charging for prayer?! (none / 0) (#30)
    by Inspector Gadget on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 10:36:58 AM EST
    If it's a fake voice, wouldn't it be a fake prayer? Doesn't sound Christian to me, somehow.

    Citigroup and Bank of America (5.00 / 2) (#31)
    by Makarov on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 10:38:26 AM EST
    are now BUYING mortgage backed securities in the secondary market, according to the NY Post:


    One Wall Street trader told The Post that what's been most puzzling about the purchases is how aggressive both banks have been in their buying, sometimes paying higher prices than competing bidders are willing to pay.

    Recently, securities rated AAA have changed hands for roughly 30 cents on the dollar, and most of the buyers have been hedge funds acting opportunistically on a bet that prices will rise over time. However, sources said Citi and BofA have trumped those bids.

    Tell me I'm not the only one who didn't see this coming.

    I saw it coming :) (5.00 / 2) (#33)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 10:45:36 AM EST
    And it is still hilarious how people go to bat for the poor poor banks who are suffering so much because people fooled them into giving them loans.

    How much more are we going to let them (none / 0) (#34)
    by Inspector Gadget on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 10:53:33 AM EST
    own of us?

    I will never do business with those big guys again. My employer moved his business accounts to a local bank 6 months ago, too.

    Then, didn't BofA get money they said they didn't need or want? Guess the gov't just handed them the cash they needed to garble up some more of our futures.


    I like your employer (5.00 / 1) (#39)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 11:00:38 AM EST
    The big banks are going to have to be seized in the end.  The Obama administration seems hell bent on making certain that it is a bitter end too.  These guys can't fathom making their money in banking anymore, yet they want to be treated like banks serving the needs of the little man.  It's nuts, they are nuts, people who defend them are either uneducated about all the facts or I think they are nuts too.

    I cried this morn watching the CNN (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 10:42:28 AM EST
    report on the father home from Iraq who surprised his kids at school yesterday in Florida.  His son runs to him and then the tears from the little boy just start.  Lots of sacrifice cleaning up Bush's messes right now.  Is it any wonder that people who do write ups about unfairly taxing the bonuses of the rich make my teeth itch? AS ALWAYS, THE HUGE FAIR IS IN THE FALL.

    Leaving Iraq (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by caseyOR on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 11:42:12 AM EST
    I am seeing stories about the cost of pulling our troops out of Iraq. The thrust seems to be that leaving Iraq will be extremely expensive, costs will be much higher than we ever thought. Call me crazy, but I get the feeling the real message is that we can't afford to leave Iraq. You know, what with the bad economy and our record deficit and all.

    I don't understand. The appearance of this now is suspect. Haven't we always known it would cost money to bring everyone and everything back? Could people really be trying to build the case that we must stay in Iraq because we can't afford to come home?


    I'm going to have to go look around (none / 0) (#50)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 12:25:02 PM EST
    I have been working with my dogs a lot this week, not reading much except specifically about the economy and Timmy's solutions.

    Ah, I went and read the GOA report (none / 0) (#52)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 12:31:42 PM EST
    Tis true, bringing all of our equipment home via ships and then the trains (and then when it gets here it will all be assessed and have to be repaired and replaced) is going to be staggering.  Once the brigades come home then the mission is to return to "readiness" status, and that is going to be enormously costly getting there.  Sitting in the desert surrounded by all of our broke stuff is cheaper.

    Yep, will be costly (5.00 / 2) (#60)
    by caseyOR on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 01:04:11 PM EST
    I am suspicious about the tone of what I have read. It sounds like someone is trying to build an "economic" case for keeping troops in Iraq. I find this worrisome.

    Yes, it did to me too (5.00 / 1) (#62)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 01:12:33 PM EST
    There's weather??? (5.00 / 2) (#36)
    by Anne on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 10:54:11 AM EST
    Who knew?  It's tax season, so it's still dark when I leave for work, and my brain is usually so fried when I go home that I'm not paying much attention to the weather - other than to be more or less aware of the basics: warm, cold, dry, rainy, cloudy, sunny.

    However, I did notice that the crocus are up and blooming, the daffodils and tulips are up but not budded yet, the forsythia is getting ready to burst and the trees are greening - my woods now has a sort of impressionist flavor to it.  It's raining here today and I think it is supposed to rain tomorrow and perhaps some this weeked - we really need the precip; I think we are something like 8 inches below where we should be.  Since we are on a well, the water table is important to us, although where it is at any given point is reflective of the precipitation 6 months earlier.

    Will be spending the weekend chucking things into a dumpster at my aunt's house, putting out the free-for-the-taking stuff out by the street in hopes someone can make use of it.

    I really, REALLY, need a vacation.  Really.

    It's getting heavy... (5.00 / 1) (#41)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 11:05:57 AM EST
    "Sir" Bigshot Banker gets his castle vandalized over in the UK....AIG execs getting their threats and private security circling their castles up in CT...we may just get a "new" New Deal of some sort, when the rich fear for their safety as well as their wealth, the proles usually get a bone or two...like the original New Deal.

    Keep makin' noise people...just try to be better than those we despise.

    NYT photo of tent city (none / 0) (#42)
    by oculus on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 11:12:34 AM EST
    Is on p. 1 above the fold.

    Here's the article... (none / 0) (#49)
    by desertswine on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 12:13:19 PM EST
    It just dawned on me... (5.00 / 4) (#53)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 12:36:37 PM EST
    Globalization is nearly complete...or as I like to call it the race to the bottom...there are no more first world and third world countries anymore...just first class and third class citizens.

    Shantytowns...they're not just for Kingston, Rio, and Mogadishu anymore...coming to a run-down part of town near you!


    Daffodils (5.00 / 2) (#56)
    by oculus on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 12:46:37 PM EST
    Blooming in Central Park and purple and white crocus buds about to open. A young woman just asked me:  what do you call these animals?  I sd. Pidgeons.

    I wish I was a Genie (5.00 / 1) (#63)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 01:14:21 PM EST
    I could hang there.  I could go to museums all day until I fell down in a faint.

    I think she was trying (5.00 / 1) (#65)
    by oculus on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 03:22:47 PM EST
    To find what these animsals are called in English, which she spoke slowly with an accent.

    Pidgeons? (none / 0) (#59)
    by squeaky on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 12:51:35 PM EST
    Were you making a joke, or was the young woman?

    Rats with wings... (none / 0) (#64)
    by desertswine on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 02:41:56 PM EST
    as Woody Allen said.

    Well, considering... (none / 0) (#1)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 08:16:48 AM EST
    ...all the extra clothing I packed into work this morning, we darn well better get those 15 inches.  I'm loaded down like a pack-mule, so I don't want all that effort to go to waste.  

    Besides, we so desperately need the moisture!

    Alright! (none / 0) (#54)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 12:38:21 PM EST
    We get to go home at Noon.  Hopefully "Blizzard '09" continues full-force and we get a full snow day tomorrow.

    Early Dismissal eh?.... (5.00 / 1) (#55)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 12:41:32 PM EST
    you lucky dog you...be careful getting home!

    I know! (none / 0) (#57)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 12:47:42 PM EST
    There's some benefit to being classified as "non-essential"...

    Got a ride lined-up part of the way home, so I shouldn't get snowbound on the way.


    Raining for three days (none / 0) (#3)
    by kenosharick on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 08:57:27 AM EST
    here in West Georgia and we have flood watches/warnings posted in places. I'm from Wisconsin and I will take the rain over snow any day.

    Look out for that squall heading your way. (none / 0) (#23)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 10:15:17 AM EST
    Hey, I'm in Wisconsin. Ask me (none / 0) (#27)
    by Cream City on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 10:29:02 AM EST
    about the weather again in five minutes.  We'll be in a different season by then.

    Rick knows what I mean.:-)


    They're saying rain by me.... (none / 0) (#4)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 08:58:27 AM EST
    but I hope we dodge it cuz I've got softball practice...gotta shake the rust off the mitt and bat.

    78 degrees in the DFW Metroplex (none / 0) (#5)
    by easilydistracted on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 09:07:52 AM EST
    today. 70s and low 80s for the last ten or so days. We've had several days of rain and so the fog is dense this morning. Greening up real nice around here. My allergies went into overdrive several weeks ago.

    The Red River flood rescue and abatement efforts (none / 0) (#6)
    by DFLer on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 09:13:07 AM EST
    hampered by snow, and below freezing temps. What a mess.

    In Enterprise the tornado squall (none / 0) (#7)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 09:18:24 AM EST
    just passed us over.  We are out of the woods here.

    We are awaiting (none / 0) (#43)
    by Amiss on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 11:37:34 AM EST
    that same squall line to hit here, looks like it's a doozy too. It has been really windy since early morning already.

    Take good care! (none / 0) (#48)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 12:09:04 PM EST
    The Mr stayed home until it had passed, it is a spooky one.

    It is still raining here MT (none / 0) (#66)
    by Amiss on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 07:41:17 PM EST
    started about an hour after my post earlier today and has not let up, wlthough the wind has died down a bit.

    that graphic is adorable n/t (none / 0) (#8)
    by lilburro on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 09:20:00 AM EST

    weather is beautiful (none / 0) (#11)
    by CST on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 09:30:31 AM EST
    today up here.  We got plenty of snow during the winter but it's officially spring now, and not just cuz the Calendar says so.

    How's the weather where you are? (none / 0) (#13)
    by desertswine on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 09:38:44 AM EST
    In NM it's cloudy and sad.

    I love NM (none / 0) (#15)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 09:47:39 AM EST
    Can't explain it, the place just does something for me.

    It is... (5.00 / 2) (#16)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 09:58:04 AM EST
    ...a very spiritual/mystical place.  Land of Enchantment indeed.

    Could the... (none / 0) (#17)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 10:03:12 AM EST
    peyote growing wild have anything to do with that?...:)

    I never did it (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 10:04:37 AM EST
    I didn't want to do the puking thing.

    For me too (none / 0) (#18)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 10:03:38 AM EST
    I just had my new (none / 0) (#24)
    by Jeralyn on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 10:15:50 AM EST
    mattress delivered -- in the snow. Great job by Macy's though, they brought floor pads and booties. Now I just have to hope a Sealy latex core mattress was the right choice.  I'll be paying for it for the next two years.

    If it's not to your liking J... (5.00 / 3) (#25)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 10:17:47 AM EST
    it doubles as an excellent savings bank...safer than Citi:)

    You're funny (none / 0) (#26)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 10:26:06 AM EST
    We have a Sealy pillowtop that is five years old now.  Seems like we bought it before "core" choices, but it seems to do the trick.  My husband has horrible back problems.  

    As my Great-Uncle always says... (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 10:31:32 AM EST
    I could sleep on a picket fence...I don't even remember how I came into possesion of my mattress, probably a hand me down....might be older than me.

    As long as you dodge the one exposed spring, its comfy enough...though I suppose there is a reason why the ladyfriend prefers chillin' at her place:)


    I think you have my premarriage mattress :) (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 10:33:53 AM EST
    Interesting article (none / 0) (#37)
    by CST on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 10:54:42 AM EST
    on the emergence of squatters today.

    Thought you would approve.

    We could use another "Homestead act" I think.


    Thanks CST... (none / 0) (#44)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 11:39:34 AM EST
    And I do approve...as the writer points out, vacant dwellings are often owned by banks that may be receiving bailout funds...which makes those vacant houses property of the taxpayer as far as I'm concerned.

    I'm down with donating my stake in those houses to anybody with the gumption to help themselves and squat.


    There's another opportunity (none / 0) (#46)
    by Inspector Gadget on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 12:01:10 PM EST
    for people who are looking for nice dwelling at low prices....

    House tending.

    I saw a clip on the news about it. A woman was paying $400 a month for 2000 sq ft of nice living. The cost of unoccupied home insurance is pretty high, so there is an advantage to the "owner" of the property to have people living in these houses.

    It's an option for those who can afford to pay something for rent.


    Packing an umbrella (none / 0) (#38)
    by oculus on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 10:59:10 AM EST
    Today. But CNN is obsessed w/sandbags.

    The Red River is a bad mess (none / 0) (#40)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 11:01:58 AM EST
    worst possible weather, with 7 inches of snow (5.00 / 1) (#51)
    by DFLer on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 12:26:15 PM EST
      falling through Wednesday evening. Temps: highs of below freezing through Sat. Crest prediction now upped to 50 to 53 feet. The sand bags being filled and to be placed are freezing, which makes for a bad wall. (won't lie flat)

    here's the Fargo newspaper link Check out the pics.


    The weather here in north Texas: (none / 0) (#58)
    by txpolitico67 on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 12:49:50 PM EST
    It's dreary.  Fog this morning but it's gone. Supposed to get to 80 today (don't see how..it's in the mid-50s right now).

    Going to be in the 30s this wknd and possible snow flurries.  And just yesterday we were under a tornado watch for most of the day.