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NY-23: Owens Will Vote Yes On House HCR Bill

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Posted on Fri Nov 06, 2009 at 01:09:19 PM EST
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Rep. Bill Owens (D-NY) announc[ed] his support in a press release [--]"This legislation will reform the insurance industry and provide increased access to affordable healthcare without taxing healthcare benefits, cutting Medicare benefits or raising taxes on the middle class, and that is exactly the direction we need to go," said Owens. "There are still changes I would like to make, including raising the payroll exemption for small businesses, but like I said last week, there is a fundamental need for reform and we must act with a sense of urgency."

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    Owens for Pres. (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by oculus on Fri Nov 06, 2009 at 01:22:55 PM EST


    I don't know what DeDe would have done, so a big (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by steviez314 on Fri Nov 06, 2009 at 01:23:26 PM EST
    shout-out to the Club for Growth here. And Sarah Palin.

    Also.

    Oh, and just to put a point on it (5.00 / 2) (#4)
    by andgarden on Fri Nov 06, 2009 at 01:37:11 PM EST
    There are now TWO Republicans left in the New York Congressional delegation. That may change next year (Arcuri had a close race in 2008), but it's pretty remarkable. But I think the important point to make is that you can win almost anywhere in the state by supporting the Democratic agenda.

    Move On... (5.00 / 2) (#20)
    by magster on Fri Nov 06, 2009 at 03:18:26 PM EST
    ...raising $3.5 million to primary filibustering Dem senators and AFL-CIO stating it will withhold support for Blue Dogs who vote against HCR.

    More of this please...

    35 million... (none / 0) (#26)
    by mike in dc on Fri Nov 06, 2009 at 04:21:21 PM EST
    ...is probably in the ballpark of what would be needed to compel lockstep voting for cloture and pass the bill with as many votes above 50 as possible.  There's maybe up to 10 Dems in the Senate caucus who might roadblock this thing.  If the unions and a couple other big time fundraisers joined in and upped the ante, you'd start to see some "deathbed conversions" among the ranks of the "AHIP caucus".  

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    I've often wondered what I could do (none / 0) (#27)
    by andgarden on Fri Nov 06, 2009 at 04:39:49 PM EST
    with a Bloomberg-size chunk of cash. I figure an investment of $2-4 billion over 3-5 years could have a real impact up and down the ballot.

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    I'm remembering a big speech in NC (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by Inspector Gadget on Fri Nov 06, 2009 at 03:22:44 PM EST
    Obama gave last year. In Raleigh. Elizabeth Edwards on stage with him while he declared she would be taking a leadership role in designed a truly good UHC policy. I'm wondering now what that would have looked like, and why she wasn't part of the design team, as promised.


    Ever heard of Rielle Hunter? n/t (none / 0) (#23)
    by lilburro on Fri Nov 06, 2009 at 03:24:21 PM EST


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    Eliz didn't sleep with her (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by Inspector Gadget on Fri Nov 06, 2009 at 04:12:19 PM EST
    Why should Reille take opportunities away from Eliz?

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    Tell that to Obama (none / 0) (#29)
    by Spamlet on Fri Nov 06, 2009 at 08:11:59 PM EST


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    Elizabeth Edwards deserves her exile. (none / 0) (#39)
    by Addison on Sat Nov 07, 2009 at 07:37:58 PM EST
    Yeah, "Eliz" just knew about the affair and stood by as her husband continued to campaign for president with a timebomb in his closet. Campaigned for him even! He could have destroyed our chances in 2008 and she didn't even care about that. She just cared about familial ambition, no matter how screwed up the family had become. It remains horrifying. She is blameworthy, too, for that.

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    I haven't followed (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by NYShooter on Fri Nov 06, 2009 at 05:37:21 PM EST
    local elections nationwide, but if NY is emblematic of the country, we're staring an unmitigated disaster in `10.

    After 16 disastrous Republican years (with a brief Clinton respite) the country really was ready for Change. I don't see how any thinking person could look at Tuesday's results and see anything but total disgust and anger by Democratic voters (really non-voters) at the Dem's performance after having attained power.

    Point #1, and the one I feared the most, they stayed home. After years of under-participation, A. A's and young people finally had their hopes raised in `06 and `08, and actually came out and voted. And how were they rewarded by Obama,  Pelosi, and Reid,the Change makers? Everything they cared about was thrown "off the table," before the first shot was even fired, And things went downhill from there.

    Point #2, Does anybody read city newspapers in N.Y. anymore? Using Poughkeepsie as a Red/Blue, in-between, demographic, here's Wednesday's headlines:
    "Republican Landslide".....Orange, Ulster, and Dutchess Counties.

    "Democrats have the voters. Republicans get the votes."

    City after city, and county after county, after slowly, tenuously having shifted Blue, snapped back Red, like a bungee cord with afterburners, after just one heart dropping year of Obama's (and Dem's) "Change."

    Oh, and let's not get crazy over the Owens win. How desperate, or disillusioned, must you be to credit his win to ideology, or issues. Issues had nothing whatsoever to do with it. You don't vote solid, unbroken Red for a hundred years, and suddenly switch parties after one, crummy Obama year. Owens won for the same reason Hillary won in New Hampshire. Locals, of any party, have that unique, American trait; they don't like anyone from the "outside," interlopers, especially from Washington, swooping in and telling them who to vote for. Why was there even any question about that?

    I keep asking the same question: How could the 3 political geniuses in the White House, Emanuel, Axlerod, and Obama morph into blooming idiots in such a short time? Is there really something to that White House "bubble"  mystique?

    Tuesday was a near death experience for Obama; I hope he understands that. My guess is that he does not. Failure is a new experience for him, and like most spoiled brats, he won't blame himself; he'll blame the masses who show disappointment and/or disagreement. His ego, I'm afraid, will win out over his intellect.

    I hope I'm wrong, but I've been hoping since he threw his hat in the ring.

    The only hope for '12?.......a "robust" Primary.

    You assume (1.00 / 1) (#32)
    by jbindc on Sat Nov 07, 2009 at 06:12:34 AM EST
    After years of under-participation, A. A's and young people finally had their hopes raised in `06 and `08, and actually came out and voted

    They came out to vote for Democratic ideas and the platform - they didn't - they came out for the man, the rallies, the buzz, the need to be in the "cool" crowd, racial pride, etc.  Heck, Obama didn't even mention that he was a Democrat, so why should we assume all the new voters came out for Democratic ideas?

    And there's no way in heck, short of Obama being caught committing murder, that there will be a primary in 2012.

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    Exactly (5.00 / 1) (#36)
    by CST on Sat Nov 07, 2009 at 10:35:08 AM EST
    In 2006 everyone came out to vote for Obama out of the need to be "cool".  Oh, and in 2004 all the young vo