When Teabaggers Call Out "Moonbats"

This is typically hilarious from John Hinderaker:

Byron York has been following MoveOn.org's effort to enforce left-wing conformity on the Democratic Party. The latest news is that MoveOn has raised nearly $3.6 million to defeat any Senate Democrat who has the temerity to vote against government takeover of health care.

Heh. Tell that to Dede Scozzafava, Charlie Crist and Carly Fiorina. To be fair, too many progressive bloggers engage in the same hypocrisy. I like to be consistent and I think I am - everybody should be fighting for what they believe in and every public official should face primary challengers. Of course, I will favor those candidates who promote my views. As everyone else should. Pols are pols my friends.

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    Of course, the only difference is that 60% of the (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by steviez314 on Fri Nov 06, 2009 at 11:10:35 AM EST
    public sides with the moonbats over the conservadems, while at best 30% agree with the 'baggers.

    Ugh, why'dja make me click over (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by Ellie on Fri Nov 06, 2009 at 12:55:28 PM EST
    BTD, you owe me a vat of Purell, a schvitz and -- what the hell, since I'm in a giving mood -- a new Hazmat suit.

    We could only wish for a (none / 0) (#2)
    by MO Blue on Fri Nov 06, 2009 at 11:34:32 AM EST
    government takeover of health care such as Medicare for All.

    FYI: found out yesterday Medicare (none / 0) (#4)
    by oculus on Fri Nov 06, 2009 at 11:45:21 AM EST
    will not pay for routine annual Pap test.

    Coverage according to Medicare.gov (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by MO Blue on Fri Nov 06, 2009 at 12:02:28 PM EST
    Medicare covers a screening pap smear and related medical services to a woman for early signs of cervical cancer. This includes collection of the sample of cells and a doctor's explanation of the test results.

    Medicare also covers a pelvic exam, including a clinical breast exam, when ordered by a doctor or authorized practitioner, under one of the following conditions:

        * You have not had such a test during the preceding three years or are a woman of childbearing age.
        * There is evidence (on the basis of your medical history or other findings) that you are at high risk of developing cervical cancer and your doctor (or authorized practitioner) recommends that you have the test performed more frequently than every 3 years.

    Medicare covers Pap tests and Pelvic exams (and a clinical breast exam) for all women once every 24 months. Medicare covers this test and exam once every 12 months if you are at high risk for cervical or vaginal cancer, or if you are of childbearing age and have had an abnormal Pap test in the past 36 months. If you have your Pap test, pelvic exam, and clinical breast exam on the same visit as a routine physical exam, you pay for the physical exam. Routine physical exams arenít covered by Medicare.

    The American (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Fri Nov 06, 2009 at 12:08:16 PM EST
    College of ObGyn recommends PAP smears every THREE years for women over 30 who haven't had an abnormal PAP in the last 3 years.

    Thanks everybody. Excellent research (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by oculus on Fri Nov 06, 2009 at 12:29:15 PM EST

    To ask my elderly family (none / 0) (#14)
    by Inspector Gadget on Fri Nov 06, 2009 at 01:24:27 PM EST
    members: parents, aunts, uncles, friends of same...that statement would not hold true.

    Strange....this was supposed to nest under (none / 0) (#16)
    by Inspector Gadget on Fri Nov 06, 2009 at 05:38:26 PM EST
    bocajeff's comment #12.

    Where did you hear that? (none / 0) (#5)
    by Inspector Gadget on Fri Nov 06, 2009 at 11:50:36 AM EST
    My mother was on Medicare for 13 years. They never denied her coverage on anything.

    Is Medicare different from state to state??


    From gyn. w/i my health care group. (none / 0) (#7)
    by oculus on Fri Nov 06, 2009 at 11:59:36 AM EST
    Medicare is federal (none / 0) (#10)
    by cawaltz on Fri Nov 06, 2009 at 12:26:23 PM EST
    Medicaid is state by state.

    Denial of Claims (none / 0) (#12)
    by bocajeff on Fri Nov 06, 2009 at 12:51:29 PM EST
    I have read (do a Google Search) that Medicare denies more claims than most private insurance companies. Is this true? If so, how can this be? Would it have anything to do with keeping costs under control?

    28 years (5.00 / 2) (#15)
    by gyrfalcon on Fri Nov 06, 2009 at 04:04:39 PM EST
    my mother was on Medicare, she never once had a payment for a covered medical service denied.  But then, you typically don't make the claims yourself as a patient, the health providers make the claims directly to Medicare.

    Medicare, in my experience, does not have convoluted "gotcha" rules like the insurance companies do, it's all quite straightforward.  If providers' claims are denied, it's because they're submitting claims for stuff Medicare does not cover-- which isn't actually all that much.


    How odd (none / 0) (#3)
    by Steve M on Fri Nov 06, 2009 at 11:44:45 AM EST
    that somehow, the right of elected lawmakers to "vote their conscience" is considered the highest good in any scenario.

    Yep, I don't really care about achieving particular policy results, that's not why I vote and campaign and donate my time, no sir.  All I really care about is making sure my representative gets to vote however the heck he feels is best, with no pressure!

    Pols are Pols (none / 0) (#6)
    by Inspector Gadget on Fri Nov 06, 2009 at 11:52:29 AM EST
    But, only because the voting public has responded. What happens when the voting public changes what they respond to?