Tiger Woods 9/11 Call And Here Comes Gloria

Here's the neighbor's 9/11 call in the Tiger Wood's case.

And here comes Gloria Allred, who is getting ready to represent Rachel Uchitel. Rachel flew from NY to LA today where Gloria picked her up at LAX. Gloria and her "maligned" client list go way back. It seems all of her clients are "maligned" females, from a "biting victim" in the Marv Albert case to Amber Frey to a nanny in the Rob Lowe lawsuit and the Octomom, and countless others. (Note: I like Gloria personally.) Go, Gloria, if anyone can keep the Enquirer on their toes, it's you. Come to think of it, how come Rielle Hunter didn't call Gloria?

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    Jeff Toobin on CNN: (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by oculus on Mon Nov 30, 2009 at 09:31:12 AM EST
    Gloria Allred's clients tend not to disappear from the news media.

    Bad thing about Gloria is that (none / 0) (#23)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Nov 30, 2009 at 09:53:30 AM EST
    she does tend to draw the eye....even if the client disappears Gloria does not and there seems to be this ghost victim she represents that gets to feed on the sensationalization.  Not a good thing for Tiger INC.

    Jeralyn, do you know the criminal (none / 0) (#1)
    by oculus on Sun Nov 29, 2009 at 11:17:04 PM EST
    attorney representing Tiger Woods?  link re Mark NeJame

    No, never heard of him (none / 0) (#2)
    by Jeralyn on Sun Nov 29, 2009 at 11:19:59 PM EST
    I've seen him a number of times (none / 0) (#4)
    by gyrfalcon on Mon Nov 30, 2009 at 01:39:19 AM EST
    on Nancy Grace (he's collected a lot of clients in these highly publicized and slightly weird Florida cases recently), and he seems calm, sober and understated.  In other words, he bears not the slightest resemblance to Johnnie Cochran in style, as the description in the link would have it.  Maybe he's a tiger (so to speak...) in the courtroom, but he certainly isn't a show-off on TV.

    Johnny was (none / 0) (#5)
    by Jeralyn on Mon Nov 30, 2009 at 01:45:52 AM EST
    calm, sober and understated-- and elegant.

    Not on TV he wasn't (none / 0) (#7)
    by gyrfalcon on Mon Nov 30, 2009 at 01:53:05 AM EST
    I understand he was well liked and respected and loved by his colleagues, but in public he was flamboyant and colorful and loaded with outsize personality.  Nejame ain't.

    Not meant as a criticism of Johnnie Cochran, just that the two men bear no resemblance to each other in personality and public style.


    I'm at a loss for why Tiger would (none / 0) (#3)
    by Inspector Gadget on Mon Nov 30, 2009 at 12:36:28 AM EST
    need an attorney for this. Tiger made a statement to the public on his website. Nothing he said sounds like the accident is more than a really minor auto mishap.

    Three reasons I can think of (5.00 / 2) (#6)
    by gyrfalcon on Mon Nov 30, 2009 at 01:51:21 AM EST
    First his wife's story to police is simply not credible.  Second, the actual story of what happened may very well have involved some domestic violence.  Third, by his own admission he was groggy from painkillers, and it's against the law to get behind the wheel if you're impaired by any substance.

    Come to think of it, maybe most important is Florida's "sunshine" law, under which virtually everything, including police interrogations, is released to the public.  Given all the above, seems to me it would be fairly easy to end up stepping in it and getting charged with something, which would then trigger the public release of all the incredibly embarassing investigative raw material.  So Nejame's job, I think, is just to prevent that from happening.

    In Florida, they even release to the public audio and video of jailhouse conversations between people detained for trial and their family members.  Horrible.  (Not that that would happen to Woods, but just to say how far the sunshine law extends.)


    Tiger Woods makes money (none / 0) (#9)
    by Fabian on Mon Nov 30, 2009 at 05:38:00 AM EST
    on his public image.

    Bright, shiny, unblemished pubic image means that the money keeps rolling in.

    Anything that tarnishes that image can potentially cost Woods a lot of money.  

    IMO, Woods is smart to keep mum just from a financial POV.  


    "Don't say anything to anyone" (5.00 / 2) (#11)
    by downtownted on Mon Nov 30, 2009 at 08:19:03 AM EST
    That is the advice competent, even incompetent, attorneys give their clients in any situation where there is a possible crime and the police are investigating. There would be far fewer convictions if people took that advice to heart. People are always thinking they can talk their way out of things and they cannot. If the police are going to arrest or charge you it will not matter what you say. If they aren't going to arrest you nothing good can happen from talking to them or giving a statement.

    Besides, Tiger Woods is a very private guy and goes out of his way to maintain that privacy. His yacht is named "Privacy." He can now say to everyone, and that includes the media, that he would like to discuss and talk about it with them, but he cannot based on advice from his attorney. And "next question, please!"

    All that corporate advertising money may decide a different approach is required---and a different program may come into play. But Tiger is going to have to want to play. He really is rich. He can still play golf at a championship level. It looks to me like he has command of this situation and is doing exactly what he and his attorney want. Don't we wish there were more clients like that.


    Just realized (none / 0) (#19)
    by downtownted on Mon Nov 30, 2009 at 09:22:00 AM EST
    This was all over an earlier post. Sorry for the duplication

    I don't know why (none / 0) (#12)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Nov 30, 2009 at 08:54:14 AM EST
    but if you want the masses to leave you alone when something happens in your life of balloon boy status, you have to get an attorney who isn't camera shy.  And that attorney will remind and point out to everyone when they are being jerks.  If I was in this, I would be lawyered up yesterday.

    Search warrant (none / 0) (#8)
    by gyrfalcon on Mon Nov 30, 2009 at 02:06:59 AM EST
    TMZ (yes, a gossip site, but they usually get it right) is reporting the cops in Florida are looking to get a search warrant for Tiger's medical records from the accident to establish whether his injuries were from the crash or from domestic violence.  They have to have probable cause to believe a crime was committed, so they presumably have some info which leads them to believe it could have been domestic violence.

    If I recall my Balloon Boy... (none / 0) (#13)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Mon Nov 30, 2009 at 08:57:10 AM EST
    ...legal ramifications correctly, if Elin (not a US citizen) is charged with a felony, she would be subject to deportation, no?  

    I think that is the reason for Tiger's reluctance to speak with the police, if in fact she did smack him around.  

    Deported just for being charged? (none / 0) (#15)
    by Inspector Gadget on Mon Nov 30, 2009 at 09:06:00 AM EST

    Deprted (none / 0) (#20)
    by Zorba on Mon Nov 30, 2009 at 09:22:10 AM EST
    if convicted of a felony.  I believe the immigration laws refer to "aggravated felony,"  which includes a "crime of violence" for which the sentence is more than one year.  I'm not a lawyer, but I would assume that would include domestic violence.

    Sorry, (none / 0) (#21)
    by Zorba on Mon Nov 30, 2009 at 09:22:55 AM EST
    "Deported."  Spell check is your friend.  ;-)

    That makes alotta sense... (none / 0) (#17)
    by kdog on Mon Nov 30, 2009 at 09:12:21 AM EST
    if it isn't simply Tiger wanting to keep a family matter as private as possible...I'd imagine very few men, if any, would want to talk to the police and drop a dime about their old lady beating on them, if that is in fact the case here.

    Isn't she a citizen (none / 0) (#25)
    by lilburro on Mon Nov 30, 2009 at 10:18:01 AM EST
    through marriage?  

    No. (none / 0) (#26)
    by Fabian on Mon Nov 30, 2009 at 11:29:30 AM EST
    You don't become a citizen unless you make the effort and go through the process.  Being married to a citizen helps quite a bit, but you still need to apply, take the test and so on.

    I'm (none / 0) (#14)
    by AlkalineDave on Mon Nov 30, 2009 at 09:04:36 AM EST
    assuming then that Florida has mandatory DV arrest laws?

    My first thought was (none / 0) (#16)
    by hairspray on Mon Nov 30, 2009 at 09:10:11 AM EST
    that Tiger had been drinking or on some drugs and didn't want a breathalizer test.  Is that required in Florida when an accident occurs?  As for his wife beating him up; where have I been?  I hadn't heard that one.  Tiger has a fantastic build and doesn't look like he can't hold off an attack by a female.  Another question:  If a guy tells his wife that he is having an affair and she takes golf clubs to his car, is that domestic violence?

    He was taken to a hospital (none / 0) (#18)
    by Inspector Gadget on Mon Nov 30, 2009 at 09:12:26 AM EST
    Can't imagine they didn't get some blood from him while he was there.

    Chicago Tribune reports that TMZ (none / 0) (#24)
    by oculus on Mon Nov 30, 2009 at 09:57:03 AM EST
    reports that sources report FHP may request a search warrant for Tiger Woods's medical records re Friday.  

    Med Recs? Why? (none / 0) (#27)
    by Fabian on Mon Nov 30, 2009 at 11:32:34 AM EST
    Where's the probable cause?

    I don't want someone pawing through my medical records, on some phishing expedition.  


    Not sure. Probably to see if Woods or (none / 0) (#28)
    by oculus on Mon Nov 30, 2009 at 11:36:06 AM EST
    his wife made any statements/admissions re cause of accident or ingestion of any meds.  Also, if hospital collected urine or blood sample, this would be reflected in medical record as well as results of any tests for alcohol, meds, controlled substances.

    That's still incredibly vague. (none / 0) (#29)
    by Fabian on Mon Nov 30, 2009 at 11:44:20 AM EST
    If they already have something and just want verification, then that seems acceptable.

    If they have little or nothing and want to look just to see what they can find, then I don't think that is acceptable.

    It must be because I worked in a hospital that I consider medical records more sacred that client-whatever confidentiality.  


    That is why law enforcement must convince (5.00 / 1) (#30)
    by oculus on Mon Nov 30, 2009 at 11:48:36 AM EST
    a magistrate they have probable cause to search.

    I heard (none / 0) (#31)
    by jbindc on Mon Nov 30, 2009 at 11:55:12 AM EST
    that reports were saying (so take that for what it's worth) that Tiger could have been on pain pills - which could allow police to technically pursue a DUI charge.

    But again - take it for what it's worth.


    I don't think DUI is an option as apparently (5.00 / 1) (#33)
    by oculus on Mon Nov 30, 2009 at 12:15:27 PM EST
    no law enforcement saw him driving the vehicle.

    Pre Boston Herald, FHP is not (none / 0) (#32)
    by oculus on Mon Nov 30, 2009 at 12:08:27 PM EST
    seeking s/w for medical records.  But, what a trashy bit of reporting:  link

    Too fat to graduate? (none / 0) (#34)
    by jbindc on Mon Nov 30, 2009 at 12:23:03 PM EST
    Apparently so:

    Most college students expect to receive their diplomas on the basis of grades, but at a Pennsylvania school, physical fitness matters too.

    Students at Lincoln University with a body mass index of 30 or above, reflective of obesity, must take a fitness course that meets three hours per week. Those who are assigned to the class but do not complete it cannot graduate.

    Calculate your body mass index

    Now that the first class to have this requirement imposed is nearing graduation day -- students who entered in the fall of 2006 -- the school faces criticism from both students and outsiders about the fitness class policy.

    One of those students is Tiana Lawson, 21, whose recent editorial in the student paper has drawn national attention to the issue. Lawson wrote in The Lincolnian that she would be more understanding if the requirement applied to everyone. She thinks all students, not just those with a high BMI, should have to take the class.

    Sorry (none / 0) (#35)
    by jbindc on Mon Nov 30, 2009 at 12:23:31 PM EST
    thought I was in the Open Thread.  Go ahead a delete?

    Michaele and Tareq Salahi (none / 0) (#36)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Mon Nov 30, 2009 at 12:54:12 PM EST
    must be pissed that Tiger's crash story killed their crash story so quickly.

    Also, the Woods live in a $2.4 million home? The guy has earned over $1B. That's a 1 and 9 zeros. Talk about living well within your means...