ACLU Releases New Torture Documents

The ACLU has rreceived and posted new torture documents obtained in its FOIA lawsuit. What's in them? Thanks to CBS Legal Analyst Andrew Cohen for doing the heavy lifting, via Twitter:

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    was (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by cpinva on Sat Oct 31, 2009 at 04:56:49 AM EST
    kafka required reading for everyone in the bush administration?

    Reading? (none / 0) (#2)
    by Fabian on Sat Oct 31, 2009 at 05:34:17 AM EST
    Naw.  Required attendance at movie night, beginning with "24" and ending with...I have no clue.  I don't watch that stuff.

    The Bush Legacy (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by mmc9431 on Sat Oct 31, 2009 at 06:59:44 AM EST
    Of all the horror's the Bush administration unleashed on this country, the glorification of torture is the worst. I'm still stunned and disgusted when I read what's been done in my name.

    I grew up in the "evil Soviet Union and it's KGB" era. American  Politicians ( even the sainted Ronald Reagan)  condemned their actions of rendition, torture, and imprisonment without trial. We were the righteous nation that stood for justice and human rights. American values were the pillars of our society and a beacon for the world.

    I still contend that if the tables were turned and  these standards were used against our soldiers or citizens, how many here would still say it was acceptable?

    We've become a nation of hypocrites. Like the adulterous televangelist, we preach to the world to "Do as I say, not as I do".

    Really now. (2.33 / 3) (#4)
    by maddog on Sat Oct 31, 2009 at 08:05:26 AM EST
    What do you think Al-Qeada and the like have done to our soldiers that were captured?  What would we have thought if it was done to our soldiers?  Are you serious?

    I have no thought that how we treated prisoners had and effect on the middle easts view of the US.  

    I can't believe that someone is concerned that our soldiers didn't mirandize Saddam.  That is the best of them all.

    How short people's memories are and what most were thinking back at that time.  I remember hearing a lot of people say "Do whatever it takes."


    "Do whatever it takes"? (5.00 / 0) (#6)
    by No Blood for Hubris on Sat Oct 31, 2009 at 11:48:31 AM EST
    Oh please.

    Are you really taking a pro-torture stance?

    Why would you?  Why would anyone?


    Not a protorture stance (none / 0) (#8)
    by maddog on Sat Oct 31, 2009 at 07:33:28 PM EST
    Just a realistic stance.  Do you really care that a war criminal such as Saddam gets mirandized?  Do you really think that the way we treat prisoners has any affect on the terrorists in the middle east?

    Be more specific (none / 0) (#9)
    by Inspector Gadget on Sat Oct 31, 2009 at 07:41:54 PM EST
    Saddam was a war criminal? Which war?

    And, since Saddam was tried in Iraqi courts under their laws, I'm trying to figure out why his not being mirandized is an issue. It seems we had to turn him over to Iraqi courts because the international courts and the US courts were the wrong place for him.


    Good thing Obama signed off (none / 0) (#5)
    by Inspector Gadget on Sat Oct 31, 2009 at 10:13:35 AM EST
    on the bill protecting the torture photos from reaching the light of day.

    Leadership and authority in this country is deteriorating rapidly.


    OMG! (none / 0) (#7)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Sat Oct 31, 2009 at 12:51:33 PM EST
    *US interrogation team sought explicit permission to question Saddam Hussein without reading him Miranda rights.

    Horrors!  The shame this brings to the US cannot be understated.