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Sherrod Brown: Obama Now Owns HCR

Via Greg Sargent, Sherrod Brown puts it on Obama:

I hope the president speaks out strongly for the public option this health care bill really becomes his at this point, said Sen. Sherrod Brown, one of about 30 Democrats who have pressured Reid to back the controversial option.

Wonder if the White House gets that the Bystander strategy no longer will work.

Speaking for me only

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    Speaking of Ohio (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by andgarden on Tue Oct 27, 2009 at 04:15:57 PM EST
    I've noticed that retiring George Voinovich has been voting with the Democrats pretty frequently this year. I wonder how he feels about leaving a healthcare legacy? (Wishful thinking and all).

    I was wondering about this too (none / 0) (#14)
    by magster on Tue Oct 27, 2009 at 05:06:16 PM EST
    thinking about how fun it would be to have rogue Republicans come out of nowhere to endorse the opt-out, and only coming up with Voinovich's name.

    Didn't Isakson say something off message once?

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    Similar dynamic on Kucinich Amendment... (none / 0) (#19)
    by lambert on Tue Oct 27, 2009 at 08:09:09 PM EST
    in the House, to allow states to experiment with single payer, where Republicans voted for it on states rights ground.

    Of course, in policy terms, there's a difference between allowing states to opt into a program (single payer) that can be shown, with evidence, to work, and allowing states to opt out of a program (public option) that can't be shown to work.

    But the dynamic is the same.

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    Remember the Stimulus Bill: (none / 0) (#15)
    by steviez314 on Tue Oct 27, 2009 at 05:24:52 PM EST
    Sherrod Brown was the 60th vote, no question about it, but he was at his mother's wake.  They had to hold the vote open for many hours and make him come back from the wake to be #60.

    Voinovich could have won Statesman of the Year (if not century), by switching his vote to Yes, just to let Brown stay at the wake.  After all, it was a foregone conclusion he would be #60.

    Sorry, no statesmen here, keep walking.

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    Voinovich had a (none / 0) (#23)
    by hairspray on Wed Oct 28, 2009 at 10:23:29 PM EST
    come to Jesus moment a few years ago.  Wasn't it about the military?  Can't remember what but he spoke out against his party and that seems to have changed him somewhat.

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    I like Sherrod Brown. (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by inclusiveheart on Tue Oct 27, 2009 at 04:57:48 PM EST
    He's okay in my book.

    why assume that the White House wants a public opt (5.00 / 3) (#17)
    by jehoregon on Tue Oct 27, 2009 at 06:04:27 PM EST
    Actions speak louder than words. If Obama pledged not to sign a bill without the public option, no Democratic Senator would dare vote against cloture.

    The 11-dimensional chess players at the White House propbably feel that a "compromise" bill with a trigger will be enough to cover their asses with the voters while still appeasing the big campaign donors in the financial sector that oppose any real reform.

    All they want is a bill, any bill (none / 0) (#21)
    by lambert on Tue Oct 27, 2009 at 08:12:41 PM EST
    For 2010.

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    Brown (none / 0) (#1)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Oct 27, 2009 at 04:07:02 PM EST
    should consider a run for the white house

    I'd love for someone to pull a Sestak on Obama (none / 0) (#2)
    by magster on Tue Oct 27, 2009 at 04:12:46 PM EST
    Not gonna happen, though.

    And, I'm nauseated watching Hardball right now, with Tweety ranting about how Lincoln, Bayh, Landrieu etc can't vote for public option because it is against their constituency -- completely ignoring the polling from these states and nationally.  He also has on former Dem congresspeople from conservative districts talking about how a trigger is necessary to save these endangered and heroic Democratic senators.

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    {passes magster a stiff drink} (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by nycstray on Tue Oct 27, 2009 at 04:17:00 PM EST
    would you like a Tums with that?

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    revenge of tweety (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Oct 27, 2009 at 04:18:01 PM EST
    and morning joe for yesterday.
    I did not necessarily mean in 2012.  he is a pretty young guy.


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    Why watch that stuff? (5.00 / 6) (#6)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Oct 27, 2009 at 04:24:32 PM EST
    I basically swore off 18 months ago (5.00 / 4) (#7)
    by andgarden on Tue Oct 27, 2009 at 04:32:52 PM EST
    It was a great mental health decision.

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    I have asked myself that question (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Oct 27, 2009 at 04:34:54 PM EST
    and I am not sure.
    I think it has to do with the same reason people watch those insanely stupid reality shows like wife swap.

    the heady feeling of superiority.

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    No one does (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by NYShooter on Tue Oct 27, 2009 at 04:44:57 PM EST
    NYT, October 26, 2009
    "CNN Drops to Last Place Among Cable News Networks"
    By Bill Carter

    Less than a quarter million people watch Tweety, Maddow, etc. on MNBC.

    Our "masters" have decreed that the semi-literate, undereducated, citizenry will get all the "news" they need from Fox & Talk Radio.

    75% of students in Oklahoma couldn't name the first President of the U.S. and Rush Limbaugh's contract is $300,000,000.

    Next question......?

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    Lincoln,Bayh,Landrieu (5.00 / 2) (#22)
    by norris morris on Tue Oct 27, 2009 at 10:00:43 PM EST
    Their only interest in voting against the public option are the donations made to them by Insurance Monopoly.  However I heard Landrieu comment to a media question that she was "absolutely opposed to Medicare & Medicaid as well as any government programs".

    It's interesting how this bunch and the Blue Dogs can talk about constituencies. Almost all their constituents want a public option and reform.

    Then they bray about their "principles"?

    The Insurance and Drug monopolies take care of these people and Lieberman owes Aetna, one of Connecticut's largest.

    Triggers are simply ways to destroy fair insurance practices. They are designed to be looked into forever, and there is no merit to them whatsoever.  They are a stalling device.

    If the Dems can't do better than this they'll pay for it at the polls.

    Obama waits to come in at the last minute and support whatever has been voted on. He doesn't want to outline a plan that won't pass and be seen as a loser.

    But he may already have waited too long and he's playing a politically cowardly game. If it fails to do anything he will pay for his cautious,dithering and politically convenient straddling.

    He refuses to come out strong and lead on this as he was supposed to. A true disappointment.

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    I'd like to see a Latina (none / 0) (#20)
    by lambert on Tue Oct 27, 2009 at 08:11:53 PM EST
    Say, Hilda Solis?

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    I'm with (none / 0) (#18)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Oct 27, 2009 at 06:56:27 PM EST
    you on this.

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    perhaps, (none / 0) (#10)
    by cpinva on Tue Oct 27, 2009 at 04:45:07 PM EST
    it's time for reid to use the big stick he holds, to "encourage" hesitant dems to support HRC, with a strong public option. committee chairs, etc. aren't beholden to anyone, neither is re-election support, from the DNA, president, or any other prominent democrat.

    time for sen. reid to pull a "TR" on these people.

    oops! (none / 0) (#11)
    by cpinva on Tue Oct 27, 2009 at 04:46:04 PM EST
    i meant "DNC", not "DNA"! obviously been watching too much CSI!

    lol!~ (none / 0) (#13)
    by nycstray on Tue Oct 27, 2009 at 05:04:37 PM EST
    I was trying to figure out what DNA stood for and came up with Democratic National Assembly/Assoc {grin}

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