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    Seems to me (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by Steve M on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 06:44:19 PM EST
    that bowl losses by Oklahoma State and Texas Tech are serving to confirm my belief that the Big 12 is a smidge overrated, and that Florida will likely win decisively as a result.

    I agree. (5.00 / 2) (#17)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 07:40:32 PM EST
    The Big Twelve, with its reliance on offensive fireworks, has been exposed as overrated when facing teams that pay more than lip service to defensive football.  

    The old saying that defense wins championships still holds true.  

    OU probably has the best defense in their league--we'll see if it holds up against Florida.  Whichever team makes a defensive stop or two will win the big game.  

    The real wildcard in this game is if the OU kids are playing in BS's last game as coach. If so, emotions will be running sky high.


    BTW, congrats on Hawkeye's win. (5.00 / 2) (#20)
    by oculus on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 07:51:43 PM EST
    Thanks! (5.00 / 2) (#26)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 08:02:16 PM EST
    It was a bright spot in an otherwise bad couple of days for me (reaction to a new Rx that really had me feeling poorly).  Nice to have something to smile about...

    I'm starting to think Utah may be right (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by Teresa on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 07:56:17 PM EST
    to want some consideration. I realize it's hard for Bama to get up for this game after losing out on a chance for the NC, but dang Utah looks good.

    Alabama's defense (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 07:58:35 PM EST
    I have no idea what they are doing.

    They are not pressuring the passer or containing him.

    They are not covering the short ball but they are getting beat deep.

    No idea what the scheme is about.


    I thought just playing you guys would (none / 0) (#24)
    by Teresa on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 08:00:00 PM EST
    have helped them. They look stunned and to tell you the truth, so am I.

    You gotta say (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 08:02:01 PM EST
    the weren't coached for this game.

    Saban seems to have done a bad job here.


    Hey alabama made a play (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 08:11:46 PM EST

    Speaking of coaches, do you think (none / 0) (#27)
    by Teresa on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 08:05:14 PM EST
    we have done ok so far? I don't like Orgeron but I loved Monte Kiffin in his interviews today. He's like a kid and his son is like the serious dad. I like the father's personality better.

    Monte Kiffin (none / 0) (#28)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 08:07:19 PM EST
    is a great, all time great, defensive coach.

    The son, who knows. But your defense will be great NEXT year.


    BTD, if the first game was today, I'd hate (none / 0) (#30)
    by Teresa on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 08:12:27 PM EST
    to see the ticket demand. This place is going nuts over football again.

    I hope Kiffin Jr does well. He is so serious. I think maybe he's trying to make up for his age by being that way or it may just the way he is.

    Monte was like "man, the Titans are on page 3! It's Vols Vols everywhere. I am 68 going on 48!" It was fun listening to him.

    Our defense was pretty good last year. It's the offense that was awful.


    Well (none / 0) (#31)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 08:15:20 PM EST
    We ripped your d pretty easily so your defense wasn't all that. Your o was awful but your D was not the best ever.

    It wasn't a Henderson/Haynesworth defense.


    I think we gave up fewer yards to you (none / 0) (#32)
    by Teresa on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 08:20:49 PM EST
    than anyone else. 200+. It was the fumbles and kicking game that did us in. We would have lost anyway but our defense played good against you.

    They finished in the top 10 and that's pretty good when you consider they spent about 60% or more of their time on the field. The offense was the worst in college football history I think.


    13 and O... (5.00 / 2) (#44)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 11:05:53 PM EST
    ...is a pretty strong case.  Too bad they won't get any true consideration for National Champs.  

    Got to say that I'm not overly impressed with what I've seen out of the SEC teams so far.  Perhaps they're a bit over-hyped.


    It's a down year, true. (none / 0) (#45)
    by Teresa on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 11:14:19 PM EST
    I think they've only lost 2 of 8 bowl games with one to go. That's better than I thought it would be. Kentucky & Vandy got a little lucky.

    This Utah team looked really good to me. Maybe they can get the AP vote and get us closer to a playoff.


    Yes... (5.00 / 1) (#46)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 11:31:09 PM EST
    ...the Ute win should add some fuel to the fire for a play-off system.  Even if it is a plus-one game.  

    Doesn't seem quite right that they go undefeated and will probably end-up no better than #2 in the final poll.  

    I will admit, everyone I talked with yesterday mentioned how nice it was to hand the Ole' Ballcoach a beating--even if the Gamecocks aren't exactly the cream of the SEC.  So, my view of the SEC may have a bit of a Black and Gold tint to it.  


    If Texas (5.00 / 1) (#71)
    by CoralGables on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 09:54:11 AM EST
    wins Monday, don't expect the Utes to be anything above #4. An Ohio State win might move the Utes to #3. That is likely to be as good as it gets.

    The Florida/Oklahoma loser should drop to #4 if Texas loses, and to #5 if Texas wins.

    As for the Hawkeyes, the first Gator game I ever took my daughter to was the 2004 Outback Bowl when the Hawkeyes ran ragged through the Gator defense (compliments of Robert Gallery) winning 37-17. Leaving the stadium my daughter said, "other than the fact Iowa had louder fans, a better band, and won the game, the Gators didn't do so bad Dad"


    SC was almost as up and down as (none / 0) (#49)
    by Teresa on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 11:43:19 PM EST
    we were. Spurrier would never settle on a quarterback and yanked them in and out all year. They didn't look so hot yesterday, did they?

    I hope Utah does get the AP vote in a way. They didn't lose and they beat a team who was #1 for a while. They were much faster and more physical than I expected. What is it about those Utah coaches?


    Guess that happens... (5.00 / 1) (#57)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 12:15:05 AM EST
    ...when your coach thinks he's a better QB than any of the kids who play for him ever will be.  The fact that one of them is named Smelley was of no small amusement to the Hawkeye faithful. They sure didn't look like they were ready to face a Big Ten defense yesterday.  

    My geography dictates that I see a whole lot of Mountain West football (CSU, Air Force and Wyoming) and they have some quality atheletes and coaches.  The "small" conferences are all better than people seem to think--the MWC, the MAC, the WAC, Conference USA--they can all beat the big boys on any given day.  They deserve that chance.


    When Utah beats the Tide (none / 0) (#53)
    by BrassTacks on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 11:55:35 PM EST
    You know the world has gone mad!  Mad, I tell you!  

    100% agree (none / 0) (#52)
    by BrassTacks on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 11:53:43 PM EST
    Just Finished Watching (5.00 / 2) (#2)
    by CDN Ctzn on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 06:55:04 PM EST
    "Pete Seeger: The Power of Song". All I can say is WOW! What a great story about an amazing man. Where have all the activists gone...?

    Now isn't this interesting: (5.00 / 1) (#51)
    by oculus on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 11:50:18 PM EST
    Just prior to the arrest of Blago, Reid called him to urge him not to appoint:  Jesse Jackson, Jr.; Danny Davis; or Emil Jones.  Chicago Sun-Times

    Will this influence the opinions of Tribe, BTD, and/or Kalt?

    Why would it effect my views? (none / 0) (#61)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 12:59:37 AM EST
    You think Reid offered Blago a bribe?

    No. But Reid doesn't come (none / 0) (#62)
    by oculus on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 01:25:03 AM EST
    off quite so pristine with this information.  If Tribe is correct, the Senate, of course, still has to discretion (sans judicial review) to bar Blago's appointment.  

    Pristine? Odd choice of words. (none / 0) (#64)
    by oldpro on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 01:33:43 AM EST
    You think Reid did something wrong by sharing his thoughts with the governor?  I would expect him to do exactly that.

    Exactly what Reid's spokesman (none / 0) (#65)
    by oculus on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 01:42:22 AM EST
    sd.  Of course he called the Governor.  

    Actually he does to me (none / 0) (#75)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 10:41:25 AM EST
    I am not sure what you are suggesting. I repeat my question, do you think Reid offered Blago a bribe?

    I do not think Reid offered the Gov. (none / 0) (#84)
    by oculus on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 11:46:57 AM EST
    a bribe.  It just surprises me Reid saw fit to pressure the Gov. as to the appointment, then sd., hey the Senate probably won't seat anybody you appoint. Wouldn't Reid be in a tough spot of the Gov. had appointed Madigan, whom Reid favored?

    He did this BEFORE the criminal complaint (none / 0) (#85)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 11:58:33 AM EST
    After the criminal complaint was filed, Reid and all Senate Dems said they would accept NO appointment from Blago.

    I am not sure what you are perplexed about.


    As for Reid being in a tough spot (none / 0) (#86)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 12:00:33 PM EST
    if Blago had appointed Madigan, well no. First Madigan would never have accepted. There is a reason Blago had to find Burris, no one else would play his game. Second, opposing Madigan after recommending her actually highlights the principle quite well. The problem here is the APPOINTER, not the appointee.

    I admire your unwavering (none / 0) (#88)
    by oculus on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 12:06:18 PM EST
    commitment to the rule of law, which, according to Tribe, is not subject to judicial review.  But, wouldn't you rather Reid had just refrained from expressing his preferences to the Gov.?  

    I would rather a lot of things (none / 0) (#89)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 12:12:52 PM EST
    If we could do one thing over and just one thing, I would tell Obama not to resign the seat until January 19th.

    What difference could that (none / 0) (#63)
    by oldpro on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 01:26:37 AM EST
    possibly make?

    It only complicates the politics, giving ammunition to those who want to inject race into the discussion/selection re Obama's replacement.


    I hadn't considered race as a (none / 0) (#66)
    by oculus on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 01:43:16 AM EST
    factor.  Supposedly Reid was assessing electability.

    Interesting story re Reid's thoughts (none / 0) (#67)
    by Cream City on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 05:07:22 AM EST
    on who would be electable in Illinois; thanks for the link.  As ever, much between the lines there -- especially in light of the Dems' emphasis on racial politics in 2008.  Seems that won't play, as they say, in Peoria?  No need in the national party's eyes for an African American male Senator, after all?  

    I am skeptical (5.00 / 1) (#70)
    by Steve M on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 08:54:40 AM EST
    Consider the following items:

    1. Blagojevich is currently trying hard to rally political support in the AA community to try and survive his ordeal;

    2. It's hard to imagine why Reid's people would leak this conversation, so the leak must have come from Blagojevich's people; and

    3. Blagojevich has a pattern, as documented in the criminal proceeding, of planting false leaks in the press for political gain.

    Combine all this with the standard "anonymous source" disclaimers, and I'm very skeptical.  As Blagojevich continues his efforts to rally AA support, it would certainly serve his purposes for people to believe that the Senate Democrats didn't want him to appoint an AA candidate.  The conversation might have happened, of course, but there's plenty of reasons to reserve judgment.

    When Lynn Sweet is in the byline (none / 0) (#72)
    by Cream City on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 10:06:29 AM EST
    it's believable; I've followed her for years, and her sources have been solid.

    And note that the story says much of this is backed up by tapes of calls -- so we'll be able to see for ourselves, soon enough.


    It's believable that Blago's people (none / 0) (#76)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 10:43:39 AM EST
    told that to Lynn Sweet of course.

    It is probable that Reid said don't pick Jackson, Jr.

    If he would have asked me my advice, I would have given the same.

    The irony of all this is Roland Burris will probably assure Danny Davis the seat.

    Valerie Jarret would have been the best electoral bet.


    Again, the tapes will tell (none / 0) (#79)
    by Cream City on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 11:27:29 AM EST
    apparently.  And I never find it ridiculous that Reid could do the wrong thing.  Evidence: the recent past.

    Define the "wrong thing" here (none / 0) (#80)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 11:29:14 AM EST
    1. Talking to Blago about the Senate appointment?

    2. Offering Blago a bribe?

    3. Saying do not pick Jackson?

    Only 2 qualifies for me.

    Giving Bobby Rush reason (none / 0) (#81)
    by Cream City on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 11:36:31 AM EST
    and others as well to play the race card -- and especially race vs. gender, i.e., pitting the choice as three black men vs. two white women -- is wrong enough for me.  

    It would have been nice to put the abominable race card games of Dems behind us, but here we go again in 2009.  And that suggests we're going to see this game played for at least the next four years.  That will set back race relations, gender relations, and thus, the country.  

    Reid is no match for the Chicago machine on this.


    re: Rush and the race card (5.00 / 2) (#90)
    by lilburro on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 12:16:32 PM EST
    IMO anyway, he was so over the top the day Burris was appointed that I've got to assume few people will take him seriously.  

    Facts are kind of in a different universe than Rush.  

    I find it discouraging that some blogs are factoring in Burris' race as a reason to seat him.  Way to play into Blago.  For ex. digby says

    I assume the Senate Dems feel that they have to assert themselves or risk being seen as weak. They are, as Jane points out, afraid that John Cornyn will hang Burris around their necks. But unfortunately, they are asserting themselves in a way that simultaneously appears to be petty, unlawful, panicked and potentially even racist.

    I love digby but I fail to see how what the Senate is doing is racist.  It is not.  Period.  And it will not be seen as such, if people try to actually understand the legal situation.  And then explain the legal situation.  Which is kind of what I would expect blogs to do.  

    Reality-based is getting replaced with BlagoVision.  It's absurd.


    Sadly, Rush is taken seriously (5.00 / 2) (#92)
    by Cream City on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 12:28:11 PM EST
    by a lot of fools in Chicago -- and he has a following elsewhere.  

    And seriously, after seeing Bill Clinton called a racist by Dem party leader Brazile because he used the term "fairy tale," you think there's a limit?   After seeing Hillary Clinton called racist by JJJr. because he claims that she didn't cry for Katrina?

    Anyone can be called racist now for anything.


    Well (none / 0) (#82)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 11:38:25 AM EST
    as I wrote before, it seems to me that the stars are already aligned for Danny Davis to be appointed by Pat Quinn to fill the seat anyway.

    Btw, re Duckworth (none / 0) (#83)
    by Cream City on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 11:38:38 AM EST
    I'm going with the description of her as a white woman that will be played in this game; there is not sensitivity on the part of fools like Rush to the fact that there is anything but black or white.

    seriously (none / 0) (#87)
    by lilburro on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 12:06:09 PM EST
    isn't she mixed race?  Her mother is Thai I believe.

    Yes, that's what I mean in the btw. (none / 0) (#91)
    by Cream City on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 12:25:16 PM EST
    Of course it is from Blago (none / 0) (#74)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 10:40:15 AM EST
    Happy Birthday to Mother Bloomberg (none / 0) (#3)
    by nycstray on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 07:07:17 PM EST
    She turned 100 today!

    The mayor already bought his mother an extraordinary birthday present: a new 12-story children's hospital for the Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore, which is named in her honor, the Charlotte R. Bloomberg Children's Center.

    Mother was just on our news in Boston (none / 0) (#42)
    by befuddledvoter on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 10:51:58 PM EST
    She lives in Medford still, one town over form me.  I forgot he was a local boy. she looks great for her age!!  God bless her!  

    What town (none / 0) (#54)
    by gyrfalcon on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 12:01:00 AM EST
    Befuddled?  Somerville, Arlington?  I lived in Arlington for 40-something years before moving to Vermont.  That whole area is a nifty corner of the world, IMHO-- if you have to live in metro suburbs.

    The very talented Therouxs (none / 0) (#59)
    by oculus on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 12:30:54 AM EST
    grew up in Medford.  

    WOW!!!! (none / 0) (#73)
    by befuddledvoter on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 10:20:33 AM EST
    Meffa??  LOL  I am in Cambridge, 4th generation Townie.

    Hockey or Basketball: (none / 0) (#4)
    by scribe on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 07:08:14 PM EST
    which is the superior winter sport?

    I say hockey.  And I'll drop the gloves if you don't agree.

    How can one (none / 0) (#6)
    by cal1942 on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 07:10:50 PM EST
    sport be superior to another?

    Doesn't make any sense.


    Ski jump (none / 0) (#7)
    by Salo on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 07:12:35 PM EST

    Ahh - you're watching the (none / 0) (#13)
    by scribe on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 07:20:26 PM EST
    Vierschanzentournee (Four Hills Tournament), this week, eh?

    Every year, you learn something new, and this is new to me this year.  Very interesting ... a competition where they go barnstorming from mountain to mountain for a couple weekends ski-jumping to see who wins.

    Wish I could get a video feed ... it would be fun to watch.


    I wish I had realized (none / 0) (#8)
    by nycstray on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 07:12:57 PM EST
    the game yesterday was outdoors. That I would have watched. I think Hockey is prob more to my liking than B-Ball. Never could get into watching it on TV.

    When do the pitchers report?!


    Right around Valentine's Day (none / 0) (#9)
    by scribe on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 07:16:15 PM EST
    (which is how I use the one to remember the other).  The exact date varies from team to team.

    Thanks! (none / 0) (#14)
    by nycstray on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 07:25:34 PM EST
    Can't wait for the first reports. Always makes me feel that winter is on it's way out and spring is getting in gear  :) Soon after follows notification of the fantasy drafts!

    Just heard on local NPR (none / 0) (#21)
    by oculus on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 07:53:41 PM EST
    Jeff Moorak is shedding his ownership interest in Diamondbacks to pursue buying the Padres with a small group of investors.  Stay tuned.  

    Would that the old boys who run (none / 0) (#37)
    by scribe on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 09:40:06 PM EST
    baseball would let Mark Cuban buy the Cubbies.  The Steinbrenners need a foil in the NL - someone as devoted to winning as they are.

    But, noooo.

    Somehow, just when the Tribune Company was getting ready to sell them, the SEC swooped in and sued Cuban for 4 year-old alleged insider trading.  That made all of like a quarter-mil in savings for him.

    Bernie Madoff disappears $50 billion - not a clue.  And Chris Cox flails around like a freshly-castrated steer yelping "no one could have foreseen" over and over.

    Mark Cuban sells a day early and saves like a quarter mil - the whole weight of the federal government lands on him at a very convenient moment for a lot of bigtime Republicans.


    I'm a longtime Cubs fan (none / 0) (#39)
    by caseyOR on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 09:45:23 PM EST
    and would love to see a new owner who is committed to the ball club ( also want to see the club out of the clutches of the evil Sam Zell.)

    I don't understand, though, the connection between Mark Cuban's interest in the Cubs, his SEC problems and just how all this relates to "bigtime Republicans."

    Are you suggesting Republicans are conspiring to keep Cuban from buying the Cubs?


    There does seem to be... (none / 0) (#60)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 12:45:58 AM EST
    ...some sort of a anti-Cuban bias on the part of MLB and a desire to keep him from owning the Cubbies.  The fact that most owners are probably big-time GOP supporters only adds to the drama.  The timing and severity of the legal actions against Cuban are certainly interesting.  

    I understand that the Cubs are a keystone franchise and MLB is going to be very protective of them.  But, I also think Cuban would be great for the Cubs and baseball in general, in a Charlie Finley sort of way.  A little new blood wouldn't hurt the old game.


    Not necessarily Republicans, per se, (none / 0) (#69)
    by scribe on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 08:48:45 AM EST
    but rather, MLB owners, who are largely if not exclusively big-time Republicans.  Remember, since baseball has an exemption from the antitrust laws, they think it is perfectly acceptable to collude and conspire to restrain trade by doing things like ... steering ownership decisions from "best price/most competitive owners" to "best buddies of the Commissioner".  And, for a lot of these owners, all their status in the community is a function of owning the team.  And, to buy the team, the owners have to allow you in.

    The thing is, most if not all of the franchises - even the ones which lose games all the time - are a license to print money, reegardless of the quality of the game put on the field.  It's an example of "you'll eat what we serve you and like it, particularly if you don't know there's anything better".  (They make money in ways unimaginable. Stepping to the side - did you know that press box journalists at Washington Redskins games have to pay for internet access:  $80 for one game, $250 for the season's games?  To plug in to the internet (apparently, no wireless....).)

    With one owner like Steinbrenner - who is willing to spend the GNP of a small European country for a new pitcher - driving up labor (player) prices, the other owners either have to meet him in that market, or gather together to impose a luxury tax on him.  Many of them take their revenue sharing and send it directly to their own pockets rather than invest it in better player development and the like. That doesn't stop them from loving it when the Yankees come to town b/c they know they will sell out and they can charge premium prices for those games.  But they don't want to compete in the labor market on anything approaching a level field.

    Adding another such competitive owner like Cuban will only drive up labor prices and give another vote for getting rid of the luxury tax on high payrolls.  So, they want to keep him out.  You think they still have former owner G.W. Bush on speed dial?  Julio Franco - a former Ranger player - does.  


    No Arguement Here (none / 0) (#12)
    by CDN Ctzn on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 07:19:50 PM EST
    Hockey it is!!!

    Is that Hockey, or Ice Hockey? (none / 0) (#56)
    by cymro on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 12:07:37 AM EST
    If hockey played all of its games... (none / 0) (#58)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 12:24:45 AM EST
    ...outside, I'd give it the edge.  Who needs hockey in Florida for cryin' out loud.  

    I really hope the Av's play a game at Coors Field one of these times.  That would be worth the price of admission.

    In a contest with BB, hockey is always going to come in second simply because I spent my childhood on the courts.  It was my passion.  Now, that's not to say I don't love a good Stanley Cup run or the speed and skill of hockey players.  


    Whatever else you can say about hockey, (none / 0) (#68)
    by scribe on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 08:37:17 AM EST
    at least they stick to their fists and leave the power tools at home.  And the edged weapons, too.

    Miami is lovely (none / 0) (#5)
    by andgarden on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 07:10:43 PM EST
    I'm off to have dinner OUTDOORS. :D

    please keep us updated! (none / 0) (#11)
    by lilburro on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 07:19:38 PM EST
    I am going to Miami in two weeks.  All I know about it is what I can garner from google StreetView.  Your raves will be appreciated!

    It's warm, there's sun. (5.00 / 1) (#35)
    by andgarden on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 09:12:40 PM EST
    Who could ask for anything more?! ;-)

    Have you heard anyone complaining (5.00 / 4) (#47)
    by oculus on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 11:34:17 PM EST
    yet about the FL primary, DNC rules committee, seating of delegates, etc.?  

    HAHAHAHAHAHA! (5.00 / 2) (#48)
    by Radiowalla on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 11:38:26 PM EST
    That was rich!

    oculus, you just crack me up. (5.00 / 1) (#50)
    by Teresa on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 11:44:14 PM EST
    Havin' a heat wave here (5.00 / 1) (#55)
    by gyrfalcon on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 12:05:27 AM EST
    Mid-teens.  Whoopee!!  My woodstove can cope with my drafty old house down to about here, the single digits and below-zero we've been having, not so much.  I HATE, HATE, HATE the sound of that boiler kicking on.  Sounds like burning dollar bills.

    B/c he's a vegan and his wife (none / 0) (#16)
    by scribe on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 07:37:18 PM EST
    has a piercing or two?

    Well That Settles It (none / 0) (#19)
    by CDN Ctzn on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 07:48:30 PM EST
    then. It's all so perfectly clear. Thanks for enlightening us Scribe!

    urls must be in html format (5.00 / 1) (#34)
    by Jeralyn on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 08:49:07 PM EST
    or they skew the site. Either use the link button at the top of the comment box or get a short link at tinyurl.com

    Thanks (none / 0) (#36)
    by CDN Ctzn on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 09:31:16 PM EST
    for the pointer. Will try to figure it out and apply in the future.

    My foolproof method: (5.00 / 2) (#40)
    by oculus on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 09:59:26 PM EST
    copy the url, paste in comment surrounded by [link     ]

    Thanks Oculus! (none / 0) (#43)
    by CDN Ctzn on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 11:05:04 PM EST
    I'll try that next time. The problem is, I'm a complete moron when it comes to computers. I know how to type (more hunt and peck than anything), and hit POST. Beyond that, it's all Greek to me, (actually that's not really true, I studied Greek for 4 years in college. So really it should be something like, "It's all {insert obscure language other than Greek or Hebrew here} to me".

    He's funny lookin' (none / 0) (#33)
    by ruffian on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 08:37:08 PM EST

    His wife is taller than he is? (none / 0) (#41)
    by oculus on Fri Jan 02, 2009 at 09:59:44 PM EST
    Reid stepped in it... (none / 0) (#77)
    by jedimom on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 11:11:51 AM EST
    did anyone see Tapper and Sun Times reports on Reid calls to Blago putting the kaibosh on Davis, Jones or Jackson Jr to replace PEBO?

    Seems Reid is on tape, and Sun Times says it fits with Blagos taped call saying he was under pressure NOT to apoint Jesse Jr, that was pressure direct from Reid, great..

    Blago is gonna claim he was playing ball..no wonder Fitz needs 90 more days, were I his atty I would say he was under pressure and just talking the talk, he has the tapes to prove it thanks to Reid, what a maroon

    see here

    Ridiculous (5.00 / 1) (#78)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 11:18:01 AM EST