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Posted on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:06:06 PM EST
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While I was waiting for Sen. Barack Obama to announce the other half of the Democratic ticket, I made a backup site for TalkLeft in case this one goes down during the convention, like it did on primary and debate nights. Also I can blog from my i-phone on it which I can't do here since Scoop isn't coded for it.

One problem: I can't figure out how to make the comment page include my sidebar. I need for the sidebar to appear on every page. Suggestions, anyone?

I guess I'll miss the momentous announcement since I'm about to leave for dinner with Jane of Firedoglake.

Here's an open thread to continue the discussion. I still don't think it will be Joe Biden, or maybe it's just wishful thinking.

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    Just wanted to thank you (5.00 / 3) (#1)
    by Chisoxy on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:12:09 PM EST
    for doing your best to keep honest discussion open to all sides on this board. All of you do a phenomenal job. Hope you enjoy the convention!

    I think NBC said Bayh and Kaine have been (5.00 / 2) (#2)
    by Teresa on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:12:23 PM EST
    informed it isn't them. You'd better purchase some nose plugs Jeralyn. AP also says no announcement until tomorrow morning so you may not miss it after all.

    yea, just heard the same (none / 0) (#5)
    by DandyTIger on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:13:09 PM EST
    guess that means it's the big man joe himself.

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    My husband is convinced that its (none / 0) (#6)
    by Maria Garcia on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:25:29 PM EST
    ..Chet whats his name.

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    No way (5.00 / 2) (#8)
    by andgarden on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:27:33 PM EST


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    Why? (5.00 / 1) (#53)
    by weltec2 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:59:35 PM EST
    He certainly fits the profile that I have of Obama's choice. He's very conservative. He's a background figure who won't overshadow BO. He's a Harvard MBA. He's part of a new wave of Democrats that are becoming harder to distinguish from Repugs. I think he's just what BO is looking for.

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    CNN Political Ticker (none / 0) (#92)
    by DCDemocrat on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:14:13 PM EST
    is reporting a flurry of activity, including the arrival of a police car, at Biden's house.

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    Like BTD predicted (last week?) (5.00 / 2) (#94)
    by andgarden on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:14:56 PM EST
    It's Biden.

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    It's Chet Edwards. Imagine the (none / 0) (#7)
    by zfran on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:26:43 PM EST
    bumper sticked Obama/Edwards....is that the impression of a winning ticket?

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    The "Edwards" name (none / 0) (#32)
    by christinep on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:47:58 PM EST
    When I heard abou Chet Edwards, I only heard his last name. Guess what I thought for a full 4 or 5 seconds? Guess what people who don't follow politics (but vote) might think for longer than that? The re-education process itself will take weeks.

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    GOP/McCain's Campaign (none / 0) (#38)
    by JimWash08 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:53:14 PM EST
    The GOP and McCain's Campaign will take care of it, I'm sure. They'll be sure to warmly introduce this new Edwards to the voters.

    However, I'm not sure they're prepared for him because he seemed to get a brighter spotlight only today.

    Whatever it is, I think it's going to be Biden. And according to Ed Henry at CNN, they're ready for him (and Bayh and Kaine too).

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    Pelosi Will "Be Pleased" With The Choice (none / 0) (#15)
    by JimWash08 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:35:54 PM EST
    just as Obama said.

    • Pelosi was Chet Edwards' biggest cheerleader.
    • Edwards' is a moderate Democrat
    • He's from a blood-red state in the South

    Wow, this seems like a pick way-off-left-field, as a senior Obama official was quoted as saying last week apparently.

    Whatever it is, Obama and his surrogates better be prepared to answer how Chet Edwards is better than Hillary (or Biden or Bayh for that matter)

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    According to Wikipedia (none / 0) (#50)
    by Grace on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:57:42 PM EST
    he's a conservative Democrat.  

    He seems like a nice guy.  I don't think that's enough to push me over to the Obama column though.    

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    Hmm, Interesting (none / 0) (#62)
    by JimWash08 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:03:21 PM EST
    CNN earlier reported that C-Edwards was a moderate Democrat.

    Anyway, strangely enough, the Veepwatch coverage of Biden's home has gone down.

    I was watching and there was a lot of movement going down before the feed went down.

    Larry King just announced that a police car had arrived or left Biden's home.

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    They said left. I hope it all leaks out before (5.00 / 1) (#72)
    by Teresa on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:06:48 PM EST
    the texts get sent. :)

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    well (none / 0) (#73)
    by jedimom on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:06:54 PM EST
    that certainly seems that then, a police escort....

    I am very disappointed, I thought I was more prepared for it, but I cant believe he didnt pick Hillary

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    Grace is right. (none / 0) (#71)
    by weltec2 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:06:45 PM EST
    He's a conservative, not a moderate. He's more like way-off-right-field than any other field.

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    This story is funny (none / 0) (#163)
    by Grace on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:12:02 PM EST
    Chet Edwards: An unknown even to his Waco neighbors

    And the comments are funny too.  

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    No way, his last name is Edwards, isn't it? (none / 0) (#109)
    by DFLer on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:27:00 PM EST
    Obama/Edwards ? too much to explain...as in:"oh, it's not THAT Edwards"

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    I don't understand the strategy (5.00 / 2) (#16)
    by Coldblue on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:36:43 PM EST
    of delaying an announcement until Saturday. Obama has already said that he has made his choice.

    Unless of course the choice is so unpopular that the campaign strategists are waiting for the weekend news null.

    If it's (none / 0) (#20)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:39:49 PM EST
    Biden, they are probably going to try to delay all the stuff that the GOP is going to hurl at them. The ads are writing themselves:

    He wants to change Washington but he has no record of reaching across the aisle and picked a long term senator.

    Is Obama qualified to be President? Well, his VP Joe Biden sure doesn't think so.

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    A northeastern senator (none / 0) (#29)
    by magisterludi on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:46:50 PM EST
    at that. A long time northeastern senator.


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    IMO (none / 0) (#36)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:52:35 PM EST
    if he was so concerned about having someone with military creds then he shouldn't have thrown Wes Clark under the bus. Seems to me, Webb was very adamant about not being the VP pick. He apparently didn't want to go through the vetting process is what I heard.

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    Sorry (none / 0) (#37)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:53:08 PM EST
    posted this response in the wrong place.

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    I don't understand it either. (none / 0) (#46)
    by Iphie on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:55:29 PM EST
    It just makes the campaign look indecisive or unsure or possibly incompetent -- why get the media all lathered up and then leave them hanging? Brian Lehrer on WNYC was just beside himself this morning -- he said that of course they would break into regular broadcasting when the announcement came, and then proceeded with a conversation that included speculation on the possibility that people would be texted in the middle of the night. Then someone called in to say that his iPhone was on the nightstand next to his bed, so he'll get the message right away!

    Seriously? There is no way that the announcement is going to come anywhere near matching the buildup. Talk about anti-climactic. And really, there was no other news today to discuss? Ugh, already.

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    the announcement was delayed - (none / 0) (#58)
    by Josey on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:02:00 PM EST
    supposedly because Obama was having too much fun spinning McCain's house gaffe.
    As soon as Obama announces, nothing else will be news - even if a cure for cancer is found or Britney Spears receives the Mother of the Year award.


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    Flash (5.00 / 1) (#43)
    by lentinel on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:54:33 PM EST
    This just in from CNNNN:
    Barack Obama has named Yogi Berra to be his running mate.
    Mr. Berra has never held elective office but he is known for his insight into the human condition.

    and he got paid in cash (5.00 / 2) (#48)
    by Coldblue on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:56:29 PM EST
    which is just as good as money.

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    That made me laugh out loud (5.00 / 1) (#88)
    by Jjc2008 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:12:21 PM EST
    You know your Yogi!!!

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    insult to injury (5.00 / 3) (#61)
    by jedimom on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:03:02 PM EST
    announcing Chet was vetted and made the short list, while the news Hillary wasnt vetted or even spoken to simultaneously is pretty badly done ...

    I am all riled or whatever word the pundits will use all day tomorrow to minimize the constant stream of teeth kicking the Obama campaign seems to dish to HRC supporters...

    rah rah unity, not feelin the love from the Obama Campaign

    If Obama governs (5.00 / 2) (#64)
    by Grace on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:04:01 PM EST
    like he picks his running mate, nothing will ever get done.  

    We'll get our first State of the Union address in the 4th year.  

    The White House Easter Egg Roll (none / 0) (#87)
    by Grace on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:11:50 PM EST
    will be held in December.  


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    Carly Simon will (5.00 / 4) (#89)
    by Grace on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:13:27 PM EST
    write a new hit song:  "Procrastination"

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    No - the speeches will get (none / 0) (#155)
    by Xanthe on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:05:07 PM EST
    done for sure.  That's a given.  

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    Have we given up on the possibility (5.00 / 1) (#66)
    by Anne on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:04:31 PM EST
    of someone the media hasn't even been looking at, like Jack Reed?

    Too bad there's no one on the radar with a last name like "Rama."  "Obama/Rama" could be a lot of fun [snerk].

    What a waste of time; it's almost like Obama decided he needed a little more vacation time, so he decided to let this go a couple more days.

    Is it possible that I'm already tired of the Obama Administration?

    Is Richardson an idiot? He just said on (5.00 / 1) (#101)
    by Teresa on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:19:14 PM EST
    Larry King that he'd said he'd hate to shave his beard if he was the VP and that may have worked against him. Surely he was kidding but I swear he seemed halfway serious.

    He'd have to stop grabbing women's (5.00 / 3) (#104)
    by MarkL on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:21:32 PM EST
    a**es is more like it.

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    It's not like he'd be signing with the Yankees, (5.00 / 1) (#112)
    by DFLer on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:28:56 PM EST
    for chrissake

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    Low blow. (none / 0) (#116)
    by oculus on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:34:56 PM EST


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    Is Richardson and Idiot? (5.00 / 2) (#103)
    by Idunn on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:21:23 PM EST
    This is a rhetorical question, right?

    Candy Crowly just stated again on CNN that it's on (5.00 / 1) (#118)
    by Firewalker on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:35:58 PM EST
    the record that Hillary has NOT been vetted so the likelihood of her being a surprise pick tomorrow is nonexistent. Then she babbled on about Bill's speeches and the Clinton library, etc., etc. I groaned when she said that the Obama camp feels there is enough excitement at the top of the ticket so they can pick a VP with less sizzle.

    I still can't get over the fact that they didn't vet Hillary, even for the sake optics, especially after Obama said she'd be on anybody's short-list. The Obama campaign has truly bought into its' own hype and I guess they figure Hillary should work at bringing her supporters over to Obama even though picking her for VP would have made unity a lot easier. At this point, I can honestly say I kind of hope Obama loses. And I know I'll be sleeping in tomorrow.

    The media (none / 0) (#121)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:39:16 PM EST
    is making sure that Obama will lose in Nov. Obama's message control has been abysmal. Too bad they believe their own press releases. It seems they may not wake up until Nov.

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    After the election (none / 0) (#132)
    by Grace on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:46:22 PM EST
    they'll be saying "But why?  Why did our candidate do so poorly?!"  Like it was all some sort of surprise.  

    Seriously, I hope some of these party leaders face challengers in the next election.  We really need some new blood at the top.  

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    No, they'll be saying (5.00 / 2) (#171)
    by ChrisO on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:17:08 PM EST
    "But why, why did Hillary have to make Obama lose?"

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    No they won't... (5.00 / 4) (#172)
    by Dawn Davenport on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:17:15 PM EST
    ...they'll blame it on:

    1. Hillary, in spite of the fact she's been campaigning for him nonstop, and

    2. Racism.


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    Intrade (5.00 / 1) (#119)
    by CoralGables on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:37:06 PM EST
    Action on Biden has gone through the roof in the last hour. The last minute gamblers have made their choice.

    Interesting (5.00 / 3) (#123)
    by Steve M on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:40:28 PM EST
    that Obama has lost another couple points today.

    I thought he was dominating the news cycle with the awesome houses thing!!!  Not to mention the world holding its breath to see the VP pick.

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    I'm sure (5.00 / 1) (#161)
    by chrisvee on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:11:03 PM EST
    he'll get those points right back once he announces his totally awesome VP pick.

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    woah (5.00 / 2) (#137)
    by Edgar08 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:50:51 PM EST
    unity moments like this are the foundation of the obama movement.
    What I don't get (5.00 / 3) (#144)
    by ChrisO on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:56:39 PM EST
    is why the Obama camp didn't make it abundantly clear some time ago that it woulddn't be Hillary. It kills me to see it, but she's being a good soldier through this whole process. I'm sure she would have announced that she has asked not to be considered, if it would help the party. A lot of her supporters would have been pissed off, but they'll be just as pissed tomorrow (or whenever). Instead, you've got a lot of Hillary voters who are still thinking it could be her, and a lot of the coverage of the pick will be about why it wasn't Hillary.

    I thik they're really overestimating the impact of McCain's house thing. It certainly doesn't seem like something that should determine the timing of an announcement like this. The story was going to lose its legs once the convention started anyway.

    That's the way I feel. And it's why I feel it's (5.00 / 2) (#158)
    by Firewalker on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:06:48 PM EST
    nothing but pouring salt in our wounds. Why should we Hillary supporters be waiting in anticipation tomorrow to find out it's not her when we could have been let down gently weeks ago? Why force us to endure another letdown tomorrow? Others came out and said they weren't interested in being VP, why couldn't they have had Hillary do that or release a joint statement or something. Personally, I need to hear directly from Hillary that she wasn't in the running for VP. It just seems like if you can think of what will piss off Hillary supporters the most, that's the route you can expect the Obama campaign to take.

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    I absolutely can't wait (none / 0) (#180)
    by Eleanor A on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:21:40 PM EST
    for next week.  Watching all those Hillary delegates simply walk out as opposed to voting for Barky.

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    Time To Go To Bed (5.00 / 2) (#151)
    by JimWash08 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:02:17 PM EST
    • Text message will be sent tomorrow Morning
    • Kaine is out
    • Bayh is out
    • A private flight left Midway Airport in Chicago and arrived at a private airport near Wilmington, Del.

    All confirmed and reported by CNN

    Did Candy just say that (5.00 / 1) (#165)
    by nycstray on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:13:15 PM EST
    Not only does Biden have working class roots, but that his net worth was MINUS 300 grand so he is essentially working class?!

    Yes. Yes she did. (none / 0) (#178)
    by JimWash08 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:20:07 PM EST
    Even I took a double-take.

    Candy can be quite out there in her analysis sometimes.

    So it seems we will have an Obama/Biden ticket after all.

    Watch for everyone to turn into instant cheerleaders now. "The BEST ticket EVAH!"

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    She admitted today that her grown kids had (none / 0) (#189)
    by Teresa on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:26:41 PM EST
    signed up for the texts. Not that it necessarily means that they are pro-Obama she said. :)

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    Well, if Mommy Candy (none / 0) (#200)
    by JimWash08 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:37:59 PM EST
    is on TV, with her colleagues, cheer-leading Obama on, I think it's quite safe to say Candy's "grown kids" will not be out there waving McCain flags and signs. Heh.

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    Thanks for confirming that (none / 0) (#196)
    by nycstray on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:34:16 PM EST
    I was like, What?!

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    Collection To Purchase (5.00 / 4) (#170)
    by JimWash08 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:15:28 PM EST
    A Crate Load of Smelling Salts for Jeralyn
    Who's in?

    Also guys, not too sure yet, but this might mean we also need to make some space for her under the bus.

    Table Tennis on MSNBC (5.00 / 1) (#176)
    by BarnBabe on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:19:24 PM EST
    8-10:30AM. Keep that in mind. Ha. Maybe MSNBC will cut to Tweety and Obie with the big announcement. This will be interesting. Obama can say, Um, this is my guy. And Biden can say, Let me tell you about my first hangnail.


    I was watching it in the wee hours (none / 0) (#185)
    by nycstray on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:25:31 PM EST
    this AM. The game seems to have tightened up around the table a lot. It was actually kinda hard to watch. Not at all relaxing. I used to love to play.

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    Losing it. (5.00 / 2) (#207)
    by lentinel on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:53:31 PM EST
    In a move which caught media outlets by surprise, Democratic nominee apparent Barack Obama announced that his choice for Vice President is Donald Duck.

    Mr. Duck was contacted in flight on route to Orlando where he has a winter home.

    He will be introduced at the convention by his wife Daisy.  

    Sorry Jeralyn (5.00 / 2) (#209)
    by americanincanada on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 10:07:57 PM EST
    The United States Secret Service has dispatched a protective detail to assume the immediate protection of Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Del., a source tells ABC News, indicating in all likelihood that Biden has been officially notified that Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, has selected him to be his running mate.

    I'd be happy to help (none / 0) (#3)
    by DandyTIger on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:12:26 PM EST
    especially since I've been working on iphone blogging. Post what bits you're using (blog software on iphone (or just browser), blog products, etc.

    MSNBC is showing "breaking news" (none / 0) (#4)
    by zfran on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:12:30 PM EST
    that Kaine and Bayh have been told they are not the pick. They are they only station reporting that, however.

    faux (none / 0) (#42)
    by jedimom on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:54:15 PM EST
    faux also just reported Kaine told he was not the pick.

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    But has anyone told Richardson yet? (none / 0) (#84)
    by Maria Garcia on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:10:50 PM EST
    The poor forgotten man.

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    Carville will tell him. (5.00 / 9) (#95)
    by oculus on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:15:46 PM EST


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    HAW!! (none / 0) (#127)
    by gyrfalcon on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:44:56 PM EST


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    I had to use a new ID. Teresa in Tenn if we (none / 0) (#9)
    by Teresa on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:31:26 PM EST
    end up there.

    I think it is going to be Jim Webb of Virginia. (none / 0) (#10)
    by BronxFem on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:31:50 PM EST
    I know he said no.   However........

    Naw (none / 0) (#14)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:35:35 PM EST
    If he thought he could carry VA he would have picked Kaine.

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    If he (none / 0) (#49)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:56:48 PM EST
    was so concerned military creds then he wouldn't have thrown Wes Clark under the bus IMO. Anyway, I read that Webb didn't want it because he didn't want to go through the vetting process.

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    Webb also has the military bonafides, and (none / 0) (#106)
    by BronxFem on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:22:04 PM EST
    he is a super-intellectual like Obama.  

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    Clark was a Rhodes Scholar (none / 0) (#159)
    by sallywally on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:08:00 PM EST
    I bet his intellect is up there with the best of them....on any subject.

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    what about the governor of Montana? (none / 0) (#63)
    by Josey on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:03:23 PM EST


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    Obama's (5.00 / 4) (#105)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:22:04 PM EST
    already blown the election. He lost in it in June and July when he sat on his butt and did basically nothing. He didn't try to get Hillary's supporters on board. He didn't try to define McCain. He went on vacation and proferred a weak and quisling response to the GA situation. He's toast. It's over for him and Biden is NOT going to help him anywhere. Puhleeze I can write the ads already! Hopefully, the downticket races will be able to separate themselves from him and he won't drag them down.

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    That's (5.00 / 1) (#117)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:35:45 PM EST
    certainly a possibility. The Dems certainly don't seem to be too adept at vetting when we're letting the GOP do it during a presidential election.

    What are the reasons you think Obama has blown it?

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    Naming a VP who isn't Hillary (5.00 / 3) (#122)
    by Grace on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:39:46 PM EST
    means his ratings will start tanking next week, regardless of the convention.  

    It won't help him attract anyone who isn't already voting for him and it will cause him to lose some people who might have voted for him if he had picked her.  

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    he might (5.00 / 1) (#126)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:43:37 PM EST
    even lose some of his current supporters. Remember all the yammering about D-MBNA? Feh, but more than likely they'll continue to make excuses for him just like they did with FISA. Whatever. One of the most exciting presidential elections I've witnessed has turned out to be a real snoozer. At least there are some down ticket races around here to vote for.

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    Maybe his texting program (5.00 / 1) (#164)
    by BarnBabe on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:13:04 PM EST
    Can they send out the text all at once at the same time? AT&T can help him I am sure.

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    Well, the convention may be interesting (none / 0) (#113)
    by MarkL on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:30:01 PM EST
    next week, with things looking so grim for Obama.
    And if the convention itself doesn't entertain, the coverage should, depending on Obama's VP choice.

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    Obama might want someone to challenge him... (none / 0) (#90)
    by Maria Garcia on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:14:05 PM EST
    ...but just not that much.

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    Private plane spotted landing in Joes hometown... (none / 0) (#11)
    by Idunn on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:33:33 PM EST
    Yawn.

    Was it towing a banner? (none / 0) (#98)
    by oculus on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:16:29 PM EST


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    I hopw its not Biden (none / 0) (#13)
    by Little Fish on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:35:31 PM EST
    for Jeralyn's sake. I like her too much.

    I'm stuck at the Honolulu airport waiting for my connection. So bored. So so bored.

    I'm in Oklahoma (none / 0) (#60)
    by Klio on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:02:57 PM EST
    and I'm bored too!  I'd sooooo much rather be in Honolulu -- count your blessings one by one, is my advice.

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    Okay (none / 0) (#17)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:37:15 PM EST
    it's not Bayh or Kaine. That leaves Biden and Edwards and was there anyone else on that list?

    Maybe he would be silly enough to pick Chet Edwards. After all, it's what Pelosi wants. I don't think that he ads anything. It might make sense if Obama still thinks wrongly that he's going to get some of that evangelical vote.

    Obama campaign announces... (none / 0) (#18)
    by Idunn on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:37:19 PM EST
    the text message will be coming in the morning. Not tonight.

    No comment, since I can't trust my ability not to use filthy language.

    Heheh (5.00 / 2) (#75)
    by daria g on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:07:05 PM EST
    Debating whether or not to punk some of my friends who are big Obama fans with a fake out text..  
    Seriously, this delay just calls out for a good prank..  

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    Someone needs to tell John King that. He is (none / 0) (#21)
    by Teresa on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:40:29 PM EST
    still saying it could come any minute.

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    Not so good for business if he says (5.00 / 3) (#23)
    by andgarden on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:42:15 PM EST
    "pack up folks, it's tomorrow!"

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    It's going (none / 0) (#22)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:41:00 PM EST
    to be a snoozer so what difference does it make whether he does it tonight or tomorrow? I think people are going to be mad so he's putting off when the announcement will get drowned out.

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    I'm going back to saying it's Hill (none / 0) (#19)
    by masslib on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:39:46 PM EST
    otherwise all this hoopla is anti-climatic.

    It is going to be anti-climatic. I don't think (5.00 / 2) (#24)
    by Teresa on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:42:24 PM EST
    it is Hillary even though I got my hopes up for a little while. She didn't look like she'd had any news like that when they asked her. Not even an eye twinkle.

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    I'm officially over..... (5.00 / 6) (#31)
    by Maria Garcia on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:47:09 PM EST
    ...thinking that it might possibly be Hillary. It would have been interesting and the best thing that Obama could have done for Democrats and for his campaign. But its pretty clear they think otherwise.

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    I cannot imagine them (none / 0) (#99)
    by weltec2 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:16:44 PM EST
    being able to get along with each other. Their thinking and ways of doing things are miles apart.

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    Who knows? (none / 0) (#26)
    by DET103 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:44:30 PM EST
    I have trouble imagining it is her either but there is some kind of trick going on here so we can all guess, if naming her wouldn't even appease some, perhaps get them all so mad with all these leaks otherwise that then picking her would work? Who knows? If I had to put money on it, I'd say Biden.

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    If it isn't (none / 0) (#35)
    by nycstray on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:48:51 PM EST
    I would call this little game they're playing a MAJOR gaff.

    They have such a tin ear, I really am having a hard time deciding who they'll pick. I was leaning Bayh. Biden has issues, but they could be overlooked because at least there would be a grownup on the ticket. That might comfort some of the fence sitters. Then there's the please the evangelicals option . . . . which isn't a left field option with all this G-d stuff we have going on lately.

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    From what I understand, the Obama campaign is (none / 0) (#54)
    by Firewalker on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:59:42 PM EST
    enjoying the non-stop media coverage/speculation and that's the reason they're waiting so long to announce. They've been dominating the news for the last 2 days. So, it would seem the buildup and hype that's growing for the VP announcement is merely an unintended side effect. In other words, don't expect a satisfying payoff re: the VP because this is all about Obama dominating the news cycle.

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    Maybe (5.00 / 2) (#67)
    by Steve M on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:04:52 PM EST
    I hope they're not confusing the undivided attention of the media with the undivided attention of the public.

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    Obama (none / 0) (#74)
    by dissenter on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:06:55 PM EST
    You mean the one we have been waiting for...Nah I can't see how they would make that mistake:)

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    You may not know this (5.00 / 2) (#85)
    by Steve M on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:11:18 PM EST
    but I am the one I have been waiting for.  Me!

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    Here is his competition (none / 0) (#65)
    by dissenter on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:04:03 PM EST
    Women's basketball gold-medal game: USA vs. Australia (LIVE ET/CT). Also, gold-medal finals in individual rhythmic gymnastics, team synchronized swimming, boxing and flatwater canoe/kayak.

    Can't you just see how many people are gonna be pissed off when their Olympic coverage is ruined by this fiasco:)

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    Even Candy on CNN (none / 0) (#76)
    by americanincanada on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:07:11 PM EST
    said a bit ago that the Obama campaign is clearly having a blast with this whole story. She didn't look amused.

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    Does it count as domination if (none / 0) (#78)
    by Anne on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:08:05 PM EST
    they haven't been saying anything, and all they're doing is making more people think, "who does this guy think he is?"

    Seems like a really lame-o strategy when the coverage sounds like an invasion of hoot owls..."who...who...who..."

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    It's clearly a strategy (5.00 / 4) (#108)
    by Grace on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:26:55 PM EST
    designed to tick off a lot of people.  I mean, everybody loves to be kept waiting, don't they?  

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    cell numbers (none / 0) (#80)
    by CHDmom on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:09:02 PM EST
    and don't forget they said the longer it plays on the more clee numbers they get.
    Well Fox announced the private plane they were tracking from Chi landed in Del. Do these people realize how dumb they (MSM and their coverage of this mess)look?
     I also think it was a pretty bad move on team Obama's part, not to vet Hillary. Even if they had no plans on picking her, it makes them look even worse to do it this way. They seem to keep looking for and finding new ways to PO major blocks of voters.

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    cell (none / 0) (#83)
    by CHDmom on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:10:17 PM EST
    not clee numbers

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    oh seriously? (none / 0) (#129)
    by onthefence on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:45:13 PM EST
    i gave them my clee number - no wonder i didn't get a text yet

    ;)

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    So I guess it's Biden then (none / 0) (#25)
    by Dr Molly on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:43:36 PM EST
    NOW, the interesting question is:  who's the best pick for McCain to counter this ticket?

    Andgarden?
    Anyone?

    Not Andgarden (5.00 / 12) (#27)
    by Steve M on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:45:10 PM EST
    He would definitely balance the ticket, though.

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    heh (5.00 / 1) (#69)
    by andgarden on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:06:00 PM EST


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    Best. Comment. Today. (5.00 / 1) (#79)
    by stxabuela on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:08:22 PM EST
    And there's been some really stiff competition.

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    I literally spit beer on that one. (none / 0) (#30)
    by Teresa on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:47:04 PM EST


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    Good one! (none / 0) (#34)
    by Dr Molly on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:48:15 PM EST


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    McCain/Andgarden (none / 0) (#40)
    by RalphB on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:53:49 PM EST
    has the ring of a winner  :-)   Let the beating begin.

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    mac (5.00 / 2) (#52)
    by jedimom on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:59:20 PM EST
    Sarah Palin, or Charlie Crist!

    go for the drilling Governors make it a twofer

    if Palin, it can be a 3-fer, GOP can elect the first woman VEEP since Obama appears not to have even spoken to Hillary about it..who me bitter?

    actually since FL is up after the RBC fiasco, Crist is a 3-fer as well!

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    I am for Palin too (5.00 / 3) (#145)
    by MichaelGale on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:56:40 PM EST
    I don't like her politics but like her attitude and
    chutzpah.

    Crist in my governor and so far, it isn't really that bad.  At least he's no Jeb Bush.....yet.

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    Sarah Palin (5.00 / 3) (#55)
    by LatinoVoter on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:00:00 PM EST


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    Never happen (5.00 / 1) (#193)
    by Eleanor A on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:27:41 PM EST
    And goDDAMN it makes me mad, that despite all his talk about how important it is for him to be the first black candidate, yadda yadda, he's STILL gonna pick a pale male.

    I wouldn't vote for him if the alternative were Josef Stalin himself.  WHAT a disaster for the Democrats.

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    Romney (5.00 / 1) (#57)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:01:56 PM EST
    is my best guess. He helps in MI and maybe somewhere in the NE, Obama is losing NH with the latest poll I think.

    I can't think of anywhere Biden helps. Biden to me means he needs money and with Biden's associations he'll be able to suck up more money. Of course, he is behind McCain with fundraising now.

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    If he goes Romney (none / 0) (#100)
    by dskinner3 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:18:12 PM EST
    MI most likely goes Red. People here are still not over having their votes re-distributed.

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    Romney is a pretty good choice (none / 0) (#197)
    by Grace on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:34:42 PM EST
    because he has the economic chops for the job.  

    I liked Bobby Jindahl but I think they are saving him for later.  

    I think Palin is problematic.  

    Is Tom Ridge out for sure?  

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    The only problematic (none / 0) (#202)
    by americanincanada on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:41:39 PM EST
    thing about Palin is that she is only a first term gov. But the Obama campaign wouldn't have the guts to attack her experience.

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    Sarah Palin (5.00 / 3) (#81)
    by americanincanada on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:09:32 PM EST
    She beating this supposed 'scandal' like a red-headed step child, she's the anti-corruption pug, she'd be the first female VP, she's pro-choice, she's got good relationships with us 'gays' and she's all about off-shore drilling.

    She's a dark horse and still very much in the running from what I hear.

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    Sarah Palin (none / 0) (#212)
    by Nadai on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 10:28:04 PM EST
    is not pro-choice.  She's a longtime member of "Feminists" for Life, an anti-abortion group.

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    If I were McCain (none / 0) (#41)
    by Coldblue on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:53:56 PM EST
    I would choose Huckabee.

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    Huckabee is a mixed bag. (5.00 / 2) (#77)
    by Fabian on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:07:36 PM EST
    He may have some serious skeletons in his closet, but he'd probably be a stellar campaigner.

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    I like Mrs. Huckabee (none / 0) (#203)
    by Grace on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:42:09 PM EST
    even if I'm not too thrilled about her husband.  (I'm socially liberal.)  

    Mrs. Huckabee just seems like a really nice person.  I bet she'd be a neat neighbor to have.  She seems very friendly and not very uptight at all.  

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    Economy (5.00 / 1) (#82)
    by waldenpond on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:10:03 PM EST
    If McCain has a clue, he will go after the economy.  It is the major issue.  McCain is ahead on this issue in many polls.  Obama picked FP creds not economy.... go after the economy.  Romney has the 'economy' appearance.  I don't know what other Repubs to consider.

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    And don't (5.00 / 1) (#93)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:14:17 PM EST
    forget that Romney instated universal coverage in MA. If they talk about that they could pick up major Hillary supporters since their plans are similar on that account.

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    Meg Whitman.... (none / 0) (#168)
    by Dawn Davenport on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:13:31 PM EST
    ...founder of eBay and one of the people McCain mentioned as those he'd turn to for advice.

    She'd also be a draw for Clinton supporters.

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    I'm gonna go with Rob Portman. (none / 0) (#28)
    by Idunn on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:45:27 PM EST


    For McCain or Obama? (5.00 / 2) (#44)
    by RalphB on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:54:54 PM EST
    it's seriously getting hard to tell  :-)

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    Are you talking about on your Blogger blog? (none / 0) (#47)
    by LatinoVoter on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:56:15 PM EST
    If you are you can't make it show up on the pop-up option for blogger comments although in-line comments like here are now sort of available.

    Follow these directions.

    It is in testing right now but I'm using it and it works pretty well and is the only option to show your comments on the same page as your sidebar as of right now.

    McCain counter (none / 0) (#51)
    by christinep on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:58:27 PM EST
    The question might be whether the evangelicals will accept Romney to some degree. It is quite possible that Romney could solidify Nevada and keep Colorado within the Repub ambit (or, make Colorado a truly knock down-drag out fight.) Romney could really make Michigan in play for Republicans--on the surface, anyway. And, he might buttress New Hampshire. Since he is so chamelion-like, he may be able to appear to a number of people as being moderate, etc.

    Most (5.00 / 1) (#70)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:06:15 PM EST
    of the evangelicals live in the south and while they aren't enamored of mormons, McCain has a huge lead over Obama in this area so even if he lost a few pts down here with Romney, he would more than make up for it in the rest of the country. Also, you are right about Romney appearing "moderate". It plays up the image that McCain already has.

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    Romney also appears (none / 0) (#162)
    by Landulph on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:11:34 PM EST
    vigorous and youthful (so would you if you spent six figures a year on hairspray), he's an allegedly successful businessmen with an MBA, he's a governor with executive experience, and he has a somewhat inspiring personal story (his wife was diagnosed with MS). He also comes across as reasonably personable in interviews, and is good at hiding what an idiot he is. Also has roots in 3 areas: New England, Midwest (through his Gov. dad), and the West (Mormon roots and successful heading of SLC Olympics). And if he's the nominee, all those weslthy Mormons who made him the GOP fundraising leader quarter after quarter will open their wallets for the McCain ticket. Only downside: dog-lovers who remember his appalling treatment of Seamus.

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    Huckabee has a worse dog (none / 0) (#181)
    by nycstray on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:21:40 PM EST
    issue in his past. I'll take Romney over Huck as far as being next in line for CIC if McCain wins. Not happy at all about how he treated his dog, but at least he doesn't have G-d Issues or a son that killed a dog. As a family, the Romneys seem pretty decent.

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    LOL! (none / 0) (#56)
    by Idunn on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:00:49 PM EST
    Chet Atkins! THAT'S who I was thinking of!

    Actually Mr. Guitar (none / 0) (#110)
    by weltec2 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:27:03 PM EST
    was my first thought too when I heard Chet "somebody" was being considered... but then I remembered that he's been dead for some time now. Then again if Repugs can count the dead in Ohio and Florida like they did in the last election... what the heck... why shouldn't they run a dead Veep?

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    For What It's Worth (none / 0) (#59)
    by Sweet Sue on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:02:52 PM EST
    My very Democratic sister calls Charlie Crist "Governor Dreamboat."

    LOL (none / 0) (#68)
    by Sweet Sue on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:05:22 PM EST
    Good one, Grace.

    How about Ronald Reagan or Richard Nixon (none / 0) (#91)
    by BronxFem on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:14:10 PM EST
    as VPs "in absentia?"   That would be very interesting!

    Heck (5.00 / 1) (#97)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:16:24 PM EST
    maybe Obama can clone himself. After all he's the one he's been waiting for! LOL!

    I've never seen such good comedy about a VP selection process as I have this one from Obama's campaign. Really, it plays right into McCain's "The One" ads. LOL.

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    RR and RN could platoon in left field!? (none / 0) (#107)
    by BronxFem on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:26:40 PM EST


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    While we're waiting, a Silicon Valley (none / 0) (#102)
    by oculus on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:20:36 PM EST
    blogger is opining on the cost of all those text messages:

    alley insider

    Caucus film (none / 0) (#111)
    by lambert on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:28:11 PM EST
    Powerful stuff.

    Powerful (5.00 / 1) (#204)
    by suki on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:44:01 PM EST
    and it makes me mad as he11.


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    Yes it is (none / 0) (#153)
    by stxabuela on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:04:11 PM EST
    I literally worked next door to the local Obama headquarters.  In my county, hundreds of sign-in sheets were distributed to Obama supporters prior to the TX caucuses--I saw it myself.  There's so much more, but this isn't the place to discuss it.

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    Okay (none / 0) (#120)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:37:12 PM EST
    so now we know it's Biden due to process of elimination and other clues tonight. I hope Jeralyn is already getting her thoughts together about why she can't support the ticket any longer.

    Great... (5.00 / 3) (#175)
    by Dawn Davenport on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:19:04 PM EST
    ...a guy who can't talk without a script paired with a guy who can't follow one.

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    owl6 (none / 0) (#124)
    by DCDemocrat on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:43:01 PM EST
    says that he'd vote for Obama-Biden.

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    I'd (5.00 / 2) (#130)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:45:58 PM EST
    vote for Obama/Clinton or Biden/Obama but not Obama/Biden. Obama is just an awful candidate. I'm sorry but it's true. And it has absolutley nothing to do with Hillary and everything to do with Obama. Obama has shown massive disrespect for the voters and I just can't reward that. And I won't be responsible for putting another Jimmy Carter in office. Sorry.

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    Are you voting for McCain? (none / 0) (#136)
    by DCDemocrat on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:50:38 PM EST


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    no (5.00 / 3) (#139)
    by Edgar08 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:52:08 PM EST
    we'll do what obama does and not show up.


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    I'll be snorkeling in Hawaii that week. ;-) (none / 0) (#142)
    by masslib on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:54:19 PM EST


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    I've been there twice. (none / 0) (#150)
    by DCDemocrat on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:02:16 PM EST
    You'll love it.

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    I've been. I do love it. (5.00 / 1) (#156)
    by masslib on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:05:57 PM EST


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    No (5.00 / 1) (#143)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:55:24 PM EST
    but since Obama is losing my state by 25 pts. it doesn't matter what I do.

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    Well, (none / 0) (#146)
    by DCDemocrat on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:00:00 PM EST
    I am relieved you're not going to vote for McCain.  

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    What (5.00 / 2) (#149)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:02:03 PM EST
    difference would it make seriously even if I did? You want my opinion? Both candidates stink. McCain is stuck touting a discredited ideology while Obama stands for nothing. What kind of choice is that?

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    The difference (none / 0) (#152)
    by DCDemocrat on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:03:51 PM EST
    is the ability to call oneself a Democrat and not get a round of smirks.

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    Gosh (5.00 / 9) (#160)
    by Steve M on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:10:20 PM EST
    You act like membership in the Democratic Party is an end rather than a means.

    It's actually been kind of amazing, not directing this at you personally, to watch so many Obama supporters who are voting in their first election tell people who have voted Democratic for decades, "Guess you're not real Democrats after all!"

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    This (5.00 / 5) (#177)
    by chrisvee on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:19:47 PM EST
    is actually the culmination of my 34 year plan to pose as a Democrat and then refuse to vote for the presidential nominee at the worst possible moment in history.

    I'm quite pleased with how it's going thus far.

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    Yeah (5.00 / 1) (#167)
    by chrisvee on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:13:22 PM EST
    that'll teach us.

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    It's called Politics in America, Ga6th. (none / 0) (#169)
    by Landulph on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:13:59 PM EST
    Gotta love it!

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    So? (none / 0) (#131)
    by masslib on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:46:01 PM EST


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    I'm saying (none / 0) (#135)
    by DCDemocrat on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:50:01 PM EST
    it is going to be a positive thing for some people.

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    Oh...so? (none / 0) (#140)
    by masslib on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:53:03 PM EST


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    How are you, masslib. (none / 0) (#147)
    by DCDemocrat on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:00:59 PM EST
    It's good to interact with you.  I hope you are well.

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    I'm well, thanks. Hope all is well with you. (5.00 / 1) (#148)
    by masslib on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:01:55 PM EST


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    I really have to question who is advising (none / 0) (#125)
    by Teresa on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:43:35 PM EST
    Obama that this is a good thing. Now they confirm that it will be tomorrow morning. Why not just say that earlier this week? People would still sign up for texts to know first.

    After the Convention, Attack !!!! (none / 0) (#128)
    by bselznick on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:45:07 PM EST
    After the convention go on the offensive.  Enter into an emergency session of Congress and mark up a single bill.  All offshore gas and oil and all oil and gas from Alaska can only be distributed and sold in the 50 states.  This would make GOPers squirm.

    Oh Boy, imagine the commercials, why is GOPer so and so against American oil for Americans?  Why does McSame want us to drill, but not use the oil?  It would never pass, but it would make GOPers squirm for as long as they want to make offshore drilling an issue.

    Wake up. You are dreaming. (5.00 / 1) (#141)
    by Teresa on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:53:23 PM EST


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    In other news... (none / 0) (#133)
    by NJDem on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:48:24 PM EST
    U of Illinois is going to release the records. link

    Obama's striptease may be risky business (none / 0) (#138)
    by Saul on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 08:51:15 PM EST
    Check it out

    Link

    John King says (none / 0) (#154)
    by MichaelGale on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:04:13 PM EST
    No Bayh and no Kaine.

    No Richarson, Improbable Clinton/not vetted

    Chet Edwards, Biden and Selibus (sic) still in running

    ???? if true

    It's Biden. (none / 0) (#157)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:06:16 PM EST
    The plane has been spotted landing in DE.

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    With Biden potentially chosen (none / 0) (#166)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:13:21 PM EST
    ...at our house, we're back to thinking he looks ridiculous at the bottom of the ticket.

    Imagine McCain and Obama arguing foreign policy, while Biden is debating with????

    The Biden pick would be another "bottom heavy" ticket.  What a bunch of crazies at the DNC

    Silly season for sure.

    Yep (5.00 / 3) (#183)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:24:52 PM EST
    it's Dukakis/Bentsen redux where you wonder why the VP isn't the nominee.

    In Nov. all the people who pushed this loser need to go. And the whole primary system needs to be retooled.

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    Amen to that, (none / 0) (#190)
    by Landulph on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:26:44 PM EST
    bro.

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    CRAIGS LIST (none / 0) (#173)
    by txpolitico67 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:18:00 PM EST
    BREAKING NEWS!

    IT'S CHET EDWARDS

    Huh? (5.00 / 1) (#174)
    by masslib on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:18:47 PM EST


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    Here's the link (none / 0) (#179)
    by txpolitico67 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:20:36 PM EST
    http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/pol/808250727.html

    Well gosh (none / 0) (#182)
    by Steve M on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:23:58 PM EST
    if you can't trust CRAIGSLIST, who can you trust...

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    hey now (none / 0) (#186)
    by txpolitico67 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:25:41 PM EST
    I bought my Honda from craigslist and it's the best car i've ever purchased.

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    That's so random TXP67 (none / 0) (#184)
    by JimWash08 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:25:03 PM EST
    Why Craigslist? In SF?

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    I was googling (none / 0) (#191)
    by txpolitico67 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:27:08 PM EST
    some info about Obama and VP and this was one of the first hits.

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    Cause all the cool kids CL when (none / 0) (#192)
    by nycstray on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:27:09 PM EST
    they aren't My Facing  ;)

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    Pfft! And here I thought (none / 0) (#195)
    by JimWash08 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:31:24 PM EST
    I was cool enough to be a Facebooker

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    Hey (none / 0) (#194)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:30:22 PM EST
    Announcing on Craigslist is just as far fetched and stupid as everything else they're doing.

    BTW, CNN says they're announcing tomorrow.

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    Don't shoot the messenger (5.00 / 2) (#199)
    by txpolitico67 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:35:18 PM EST
    I was just copying and pasting what I saw.  thought it would assuage the masses here on TL.

    I could care less. i am voting cynthia mckinney.

    now where'd i leave my cocktail????

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    But...! (none / 0) (#198)
    by lansing quaker on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:35:17 PM EST
    All that time CNN.com Live was telling me it would be within the next HOUR!

    ... every hour.

    Oy, lol.


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    Heidi Klum (none / 0) (#187)
    by Stellaaa on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:26:15 PM EST
    Can someone make a clip of Heidi Aufing Bayh and Kaine?  The reality show parallel is really getting creepy.  

    Good lord (none / 0) (#201)
    by americanincanada on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 09:40:38 PM EST
    Obama is going to resurrect the TRuman whitehouse furniture for his own use!

    Obama to text tommorrow morning in Springfield (none / 0) (#213)
    by Saul on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 10:30:58 PM EST
    IL according to CNN Breaking News.

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