Hillary to Richardson: A Shrug or a Hug?

(larger version here.)

The LA Times asks whether Hillary Clinton gave Bill Richardson a shrug or a hug Monday while campaigning for Barack Obama in New Mexico.

Here's the video, you decide.

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    Ah, the trivia! (5.00 / 2) (#1)
    by Steve M on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 12:45:10 AM EST
    The media just never gets tired of dissecting every inconsequential detail of the Clintons' behavior.

    That said, I did watch the video.  It was obviously a hug, although not a full-blown Bush/McCain cuddlefest, I must concede.

    trivia.... (none / 0) (#45)
    by p lukasiak on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 05:35:38 AM EST
    its this kind of obsession with inter-personal Clinton trivia that we despise the media for.  Why bring it here?  

    Agree with first part (none / 0) (#59)
    by Andy08 on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 07:44:13 AM EST
    disagree with second:  seemed like a hand shake a shrug or a very
    apprehensive half-baked hug ..

    But you are right...why is the LA Times behaving like cosmopolitan is mind-boggling; they should be worrying about Obama and McCain if it is the election is what they are interested in...



    Delegates Want Clinton as VP (5.00 / 0) (#76)
    by bmc on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 09:38:21 AM EST
    The anxiety must be growing in the party over their "presumptive nominee" being able to turn the map blue in November:



    great news! (5.00 / 1) (#87)
    by Josey on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 10:11:20 AM EST
    My GA-Hillary delegate told me it's common knowledge in the party that if delegates vote for someone other than Obama for nominee, they will be blackballed. They'll never attend another convention as a delegate nor hold State, county, district, etc positions.
    Oh - and that's the Georgia in the good ole USA that promotes democracy - not the one Russia bombed.

    If it's common knowledge (5.00 / 1) (#97)
    by joanneleon on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 11:43:26 AM EST
    amongst the delegates, I really hope it becomes common knowledge to the public.  This is newsworthy and the media should be reporting it.

    On a side note, if this is true, the Obama campaign is severely overreacting again and seeming incredibly insecure.  Either that, or they want to deliver the final blow to Clinton at the convention, absolutely humiliating her with the whole world watching.  

    Why is it so difficult to give the woman her due, give her the delegates she earned, just for the first round of the voting?  For God's sake, what is wrong with these people?  What is wrong with them?


    Oops! (5.00 / 1) (#103)
    by Josey on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 01:41:36 PM EST
    I meant my GA-Hillary delegate friend...

    What do you think a delegate should do if (none / 0) (#100)
    by Christy1947 on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 12:25:52 PM EST
    he or she was elected as a pledged delegate  for X and then gets to the convention and votes for Y, on behalf of all those who voted for  him or her to vote for them for X. The nature of representative governance is that (s)he who represents his or her constituents elected for a specific purpose carries that purpose out or suffers the consequences.

    I think pledged delegates (none / 0) (#104)
    by joanneleon on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 02:26:33 PM EST
    should vote for the person the electorate chose for their district.  My understanding is that this is the common practice for the first round.  The candidates get the respect of collecting their hard won delegates at the convention during the first round.

    Somebody changed the rules this year though, apparently.  Probably the DNC working in the back rooms again.

    Whatever the rules are, the delegates shouldn't be threatened with being blacklisted and ending any possibility of working or running in this party.  That's just plain corrupt, IMHO.


    Delegates Want Clinton as VP (4.00 / 1) (#96)
    by daring grace on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 11:40:56 AM EST
    You frame this as a product of growing anxiety over Obama as nominee, but didn't most Dems want Clinton as VP as the primary season was winding down and it became apparent he was presumptive nominee.

    I see this poll in the media today presented as something new, but I'm not sure it is. I remember poll after poll suggesting this for months. Not delegates but polled voters identified as Dems.


    Yep, It's Trivia (none / 0) (#72)
    by daring grace on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 09:28:57 AM EST
    Batten down the hatches because we are heading into the dark heart of media fascination with this stuff: the Dem convention, where we will be awash with it.

    All that "Ooooh, the Clintons and Obama...how much do they hate each other? How close will they hug, how warm are their smiles...ooooh...What did Bill meanwhen he said...? Was Obama fair...oooh."

    I wish we could all be grown ups about this and acknowledge there will be people together on stages who are ticked at each other, don't like each other much etc. (Or maybe some of them do, who knows?).

    But these are their jobs. They're politicians. They'll do what they must to get their party in power and keep it there not only for pure idealistic causes but because it serves their own ambitions.

    There may be soap opera emotional/psychological elements at play, but hey, no more than in your average work place. (Omigod!)  :)


    Don't forget (5.00 / 1) (#93)
    by cawaltz on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 11:30:46 AM EST
    the all important what did she wear? Will it be a pantsuit? What color? Will she show cleavage? The press just loves them some trivial. You'd think our country was in hunky dory shape the way they go on and on about the unimportant.

    You Nailed It (5.00 / 1) (#94)
    by daring grace on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 11:36:22 AM EST
    I look forward to the day---and I fear it is far, far, off--when a woman runs for president and there is not ONE mention of what she wears.

    Okay, maybe they can describe the gown she wears at the Inaugural Ball. But otherwise...then we will know we have arrived.


    ugly time. No matter which firsts.

    At least it wasn't a slug :) (none / 0) (#90)
    by RonK Seattle on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 10:31:56 AM EST
    I feel that (5.00 / 8) (#2)
    by txpolitico67 on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 12:45:16 AM EST
    Governor Richardson has absolutely NO shame.  HRC is certainly the bigger person in every scenario.  To me, it was a pushug.  Kinda pushing him back in a hugging kinda way.

    He had a right to an opinion (none / 0) (#81)
    by coigue on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 09:54:07 AM EST
    but Jeez. Is this really what we care about?

    How stupid.


    "pushing him back" - (none / 0) (#88)
    by Josey on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 10:15:21 AM EST
    sorta umm... like his secretary did.
    No wait - that was a pinch on her butt.

    Deft anti-hugging maneuver (5.00 / 16) (#4)
    by denise k on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 12:54:11 AM EST
    Hillary turned the hug Richardson wanted into a dance step that gave him a face-saving waiving photo op while at the same time keeping both his arms from going around her.  Haven't you ever done that?  I had a hug-gy uncle who creeped me out and that is what I did with him...

    Yes (5.00 / 15) (#50)
    by suki on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 06:45:45 AM EST
    My sis and I have dubbed this a 'side hug'.
    Lots of practice over the years with an uncle, too.
    In my perfect world, her only physical contact with him would have involved a knee.

    LOL! (5.00 / 1) (#57)
    by tek on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 07:38:56 AM EST
    handshake, no hug, and a quick pivot away (5.00 / 7) (#5)
    by sancho on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 12:54:38 AM EST

    7.5 degree of difficulty, 9.2 for execution (5.00 / 3) (#71)
    by ruffian on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 09:28:34 AM EST
    and she stuck the dismount, even leaving her hand in position to prevent an accidental 'honking'.

    Gave me the creeps (5.00 / 11) (#6)
    by blcc on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 12:55:15 AM EST
    Like a guy you've known forever who thinks that means he has the right to hold too close for too long...


    I couldn't agree more (5.00 / 12) (#8)
    by gyrfalcon on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 01:00:32 AM EST
    He really has a nerve trying to hug her in a public setting like that, where she would have to hug back or look like a creep.  Shame on him.  What a jerk.

    He looked like he was going in (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by nycstray on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 01:06:26 AM EST
    for the big gropey (sp?!) bear hug. I happened to see it live.

    The nice thing about the clip is her supporters. They seemed happy to see her. She got quite an applause and she was also talking up the locals running. When I watched it live they cut it off pretty quick and didn't show the whole speech. I guess the big deal was her appearance with Richardson.


    Yup, I noticed the superquick cutoff of the (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by Valhalla on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 02:54:33 AM EST
    cheers on her entrance too.  Sigh.

    I like the 'pushug' definition upthread.  It was definitely not a BFF despite your traitorous ways hug.  

    Even though I watched the vid, who cares?  


    i thought the same thing about her (4.75 / 4) (#52)
    by sancho on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 07:00:46 AM EST
    supporters. there seems to be a real connection there. with obama i dont see it. crowds cheer but he does not provoke a mutual, interactive joy as i see when hillary meets a crowd. obama seems to be joining his audience in cheering himself while hillary seem to be cheering the audience too--this is why came to think she would work for the voters and that obama was using the voters to get something for himself. anyway, richardson is creepy in the clip and though at first i did not want to click the link, i did and decided it was an amazing snapshot into what hillary and many other women have to confront at the workplace everyday (thought this too when obama would try to athe debates). just struck again by her grace under pressure (and richardson's boorishness).  

    He is known for (none / 0) (#54)
    by BernieO on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 07:33:36 AM EST
    the "big gropey". What a sleaze. And his facial hair just makes him look even more that way.

    I've (none / 0) (#58)
    by tek on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 07:39:42 AM EST
    read that he is a groper, and there have been sexual harrassment suits against him from women in the Gov's office.

    No suits (none / 0) (#66)
    by gyrfalcon on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 09:10:26 AM EST
    that I've ever heard of.  But there have been a lot of rumors and a few public complaints about his constant inappropriate touching.

    Yup. How much worse can it get with (5.00 / 6) (#40)
    by bridget on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 03:28:37 AM EST
    Richardson. How much? After his huge Clinton betrayal he is Taking advantage of this social and public setting to get physical and subjects HC to the "power move." Very sexist IMO.

    He doesn't deserve HC's and our respect because he doesn't respect her and women. That is only too obvious.


    and what a beeach - doesn't (5.00 / 4) (#65)
    by Xanthe on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 09:08:41 AM EST
    she know women are supposed to suffer hugs from men gladly.

    Yup or creepy co-worker hugs (none / 0) (#9)
    by nycstray on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 01:01:22 AM EST
    One year I was the first to take off for the holidays and somehow I found myself in the hallway getting hugs. I felt so violated!

    I can smell the alcohol on his breath from here (none / 0) (#11)
    by catfish on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 01:02:39 AM EST
    I don't know if he drinks, but he always looks like he's got a heat on!

    What does heat on mean? I googled and found (none / 0) (#98)
    by jawbone on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 12:00:21 PM EST
    "heat on" as slang may mean putting pressure on someone else, carrying a gun.

    What else? T/U.


    Richardson is shameless... (5.00 / 7) (#10)
    by PssttCmere08 on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 01:02:38 AM EST

    From the small picture, which is the (5.00 / 5) (#12)
    by andgarden on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 01:03:40 AM EST
    only one I can see, Richardson doesn't look very good.

    I don't care much, though.

    I'd be willing to bet that was the closest (5.00 / 8) (#13)
    by JavaCityPal on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 01:05:49 AM EST
    thing to a hug she's ever given him.

    She's a brilliant politician, and a truly decent person. Even if she can't forgive his actions, we will never be given front row seats to see a snub.

    I take HRC at her word, though. She doesn't spend her time looking in the rear view mirror with all the things that interest her up ahead.

    Weird hug (5.00 / 2) (#21)
    by dianem on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 01:19:49 AM EST
    She sort of shakes his hand and starts into the hug, then turns for the cameras and waves. It's like she started it, then changed her mind and stopped. She does not look happy, either, but she sounds terrific. She has great voice control. I can do that. I can hate somebody's guts but say as sweetly as you could imagine that I really like their new dress. With a smile on my face. Not the same smile my friends get, but a real smile.

    I wish I could (none / 0) (#25)
    by gyrfalcon on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 02:23:39 AM EST
    but I've never been able to.  A creep is a creep, and I've never been able to detach from that.  Best I can do is a little noncommittal laugh, not look the person in the eye and move away as fast as possible.

    so if Obama loses... (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by AlSmith on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 01:49:43 AM EST

    is Hillary being set up as the scapegoat like Nader? She is really going above and beyond here to avoid any such eventual suggestion.

     Being called on to campaign for the other guy and get hugged by the turncoat who undermined your chance a day before you arent selected as VP? Man thats a lot to ask of anyone.

    Hillary doesn't want the VP (5.00 / 3) (#31)
    by Prabhata on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 02:50:40 AM EST
    I really believe that.  If she did, she had enough support to get it.  But she's playing her part in the drama as it's demanded of her.  She knows that there is nothing she can do to change the cards that have been dealt to her.  She'll wait for the game to change.

    Or hopefully, she'll help change the game. That's (5.00 / 2) (#36)
    by DeborahNC on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 03:09:04 AM EST
    more her style.

    Yes (5.00 / 4) (#37)
    by Prabhata on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 03:23:27 AM EST
    But her haters have the upper hand right now.  Despite all her delegates, she was going to be ignored at the convention, except that the DNC and Obama camps didn't count on her supporters gathering the signatures to get her name up for nomination.  Then it became an Obama "unity" idea.  But the organizers collected more than 300 notarized delegate signatures to get her name in nomination. Despite the fact that the Obama camp has said that they will put her name, the organizers don't trust Obama, and will go through with the petition.  The Denver Group is demanding an open convention.

    Fixing link (none / 0) (#43)
    by Prabhata on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 03:45:45 AM EST
    Well yeah, half the MSM already have that story (5.00 / 2) (#33)
    by Valhalla on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 02:58:05 AM EST
    saved on their computers.

    Next time she will have the upper hand (5.00 / 2) (#35)
    by Prabhata on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 03:00:33 AM EST
    She will be unstoppable because those of us who supporter will have her back.

    Problem (none / 0) (#82)
    by coigue on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 09:55:49 AM EST
    Obama doesn't think he will lose.

    To me that's a big problem.

    He's a Democrat afterall, and the presidency is the GOP home field.


    Hillary should have done (5.00 / 0) (#24)
    by Prabhata on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 02:17:53 AM EST
    What J.Jackson said wanted to do to BO

    Carville reminder (5.00 / 6) (#26)
    by gyrfalcon on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 02:24:47 AM EST
    my favorite political quote maybe of all time: "If she loaned him one, they'd both have two."

    Breasts or balls? {grin} (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by nycstray on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 02:38:20 AM EST
    Above reproach (5.00 / 9) (#27)
    by Prabhata on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 02:27:15 AM EST
    So beautifully said! (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by JavaCityPal on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 02:34:15 AM EST
    I want to read something just like that from an Obama or a McCain supporter about their candidate. Since they can't do so, I want them to write a reason why not and why that is okay with them.

    Different inner self (5.00 / 10) (#30)
    by Prabhata on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 02:46:53 AM EST
    Obama doesn't appreciate what he has.  I was never a Clintonite until after I let go of Edwards when he lost SC (I was stupid).  I started reading about Clinton and Obama, Hillary impressed me with her dedication towards the policies she supported, while Obama repulsed me about how little he cared about all except himself.  Obama literally turned me against him because of his behavior.

    Very well said. Impressive blogger. (5.00 / 1) (#41)
    by bridget on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 03:36:19 AM EST
    thanks for the link

    I have read several really great posts by this blogger recently and bookmarked the site. Above reproach :)


    LMAO (5.00 / 0) (#34)
    by sociallybanned on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 02:59:18 AM EST
    Shrug!!!!!!!!!!!!! The bug,the thug, should be squashed!

    Hillary was pleasant and professional! Under the (5.00 / 8) (#38)
    by DeborahNC on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 03:25:02 AM EST
    circumstances, that was all that was required of her. As Richardson approached her, she extended her hand to greet him, but when he attempted to make it a veritable embrace, she made a slight movement to prevent a full hug. That was appropriate, IMO, because it would be impossible to have the same relationship with Richardson as she had before.

    Hillary is authentic, and she could have thought it would diminish her stature to act as if everything were the same as before Richardson endorsed Obama and subsequently made some harsh comments about her and President Clinton.

    She really does have a lot of character. I really admire her.

    I've become a Clintonite (5.00 / 8) (#39)
    by Prabhata on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 03:27:27 AM EST
    watching her character and strength during the primaries.  She's everything I would want in a president.

    I agree (5.00 / 4) (#47)
    by sleepingdogs on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 05:55:29 AM EST
    She would have been d@amned as a phony if she had accepted a big bear hug from Richardson.  She was professional, appropriate and classy to offer a cordial but somewhat distant greeting to him.  

    All of this attention to her every move though....  Does anyone else remember when Saturday night live did a series of their faux commercials about a political campaign?  Anyway, the politicians had their typical back and forth sniping commercials during the campaign.  However, even after the election, the winner continued to make negative commercials about the loser.  Reminds me a lot of what continues in the press and among supporters and surrogates over this and other actions of any Clinton....  Sad.  

    I really feel she just wants to get on with doing what she promised to her party, to her New York constituents and her new national following.  With her every move, she wins more of my respect and admiration.


    He gives me the creeps - after what he's done to (5.00 / 4) (#44)
    by suzieg on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 04:53:48 AM EST
    her,  I don't know how she can stand even allowing him to touch her. It's unbelievable/despicable that the Obama camp forces her to go to New Mexico - it's like they get a perversed kick/pleasure at humiliating her for not getting out of the primaries after Iowa! I'm sure it's all done in spite....

    Despite the meme that Hillary's vindictive (5.00 / 8) (#46)
    by kempis on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 05:46:06 AM EST
    there is a lot of evidence that she doesn't hold grudges. I'm thinking of her ability to work collegially in the Senate with Lyndsay Graham, one of the most vocal proponents of Bill's impeachment. Graham and others have spoken admiringly of her ability to put aside the personal and work to get things done.

    But for some reason, all that the talking heads report is that she's a "knee-capper." I'm still wondering why they've never used that phrase to describer the real knee-cappers in DC: Bush and Cheney. Their vindictive pettiness is pretty famous.

    And I wonder why when Obama engages in the same tactics, he's being "smart" and "strong." (See Charles Rangel.)

    I thought it was outstanding, the quick (5.00 / 3) (#48)
    by masslib on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 06:05:34 AM EST
    pivot from Richardson.  She's such a great woman!  Heh.

    Nicely done (5.00 / 3) (#49)
    by weltec2 on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 06:22:19 AM EST
    maneuver. She steps into it like she's going to hug then at the last instant turns easily out giving him her shoulder and then steps away. Bill seems to be trying to chase her but it goes nowhere because she is already greeting her well-wishers. Very nicely done. Let's hope that any complaints are short lived.

    well, (5.00 / 2) (#51)
    by NJDem on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 06:54:09 AM EST
    Richardson didn't look too pleased--noticed his clenched fist afterwards (his left).  

    I loved this move by Hill--and the 'pushug' description above :)

    Just before the hug (5.00 / 1) (#53)
    by wasabi on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 07:07:03 AM EST
    The newsreader said she was at the rally before a scheduled "fundraider" later that evening.  Funny.

    She (5.00 / 1) (#55)
    by tek on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 07:37:47 AM EST
    should have given him a PUSH!

    Et tu, Judas? (5.00 / 2) (#56)
    by theprosecutrix on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 07:38:47 AM EST
    I think she blew off Judas.  That didn't look like a hug to me.  

    Looked to me like she changed her mind (5.00 / 2) (#60)
    by Dr Molly on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 07:54:59 AM EST
    and recoiled from the hug. And good for her - who would want to hug that guy? He has been vicious and hateful to her in the media subsequent to his Obama endorsement. He's lucky she even shook his nasty hand, IMO.

    I can't believe what it must be like for her, dealing with all these haters.

    Definitely a shrug, and the only (5.00 / 6) (#62)
    by Anne on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 08:08:01 AM EST
    thing missing was the knee to the cojones.

    Which I, personally, would have loved to have seen.

    I would have contributed another $100 (5.00 / 1) (#68)
    by ruffian on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 09:19:21 AM EST
    to her debt relief for that! Soooo funny.

    Well done Hillary Clinton. No one exhibits (5.00 / 2) (#63)
    by FLVoter on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 08:48:25 AM EST
    more grace and class than the junior Senator from New York.  What a Lady!

    She Should've Decked Him (5.00 / 1) (#67)
    by bmc on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 09:17:32 AM EST
    OHMYGOD (5.00 / 0) (#75)
    by Dr Molly on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 09:35:11 AM EST
    That map is too scary to see so early in the morning. It really is time to panic.

    LOL! I knew NJ wasn't a lock (5.00 / 1) (#84)
    by goldberry on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 10:00:52 AM EST
    Obama leads here but it's not deep navy blue like California.  If the Republicans are clever, and we know they are, they know just what it takes to flip this state into McCain's column.  It will be a piece of cake.  

    It is Politico, but (none / 0) (#78)
    by chel2551 on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 09:53:05 AM EST

    check out all the elctoral maps. (5.00 / 0) (#86)
    by TimNCGuy on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 10:07:47 AM EST
    All McCain needs to do is take VA and flip Indiana back to red (it always goes repug) and he wins.

    Fyi, that's missing 5 votes (none / 0) (#91)
    by Cream City on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 10:37:23 AM EST
    As I recall, total number of electors is 538.

    And it's looking like odds are rising that we actually could end up with the dreaded 269-269 tie.


    Best touch reaction since Angela Merkel (5.00 / 1) (#69)
    by ruffian on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 09:20:25 AM EST
    cringed when Bush squeezed her shoulders.

    Full handshake half hug with a half pike twist. (5.00 / 5) (#73)
    by Faust on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 09:29:45 AM EST
    I give a difficulty rating of 7.7 with an execution of 9.2. GOLD MEDAL!

    I bet she couldn't wait (5.00 / 4) (#74)
    by karmadillo on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 09:33:19 AM EST
    to get to shower. Hug or shrug, I say she deserves points just for agreeing to be in the same room with this guy.

    I'd say this makes Richardson a lock... (5.00 / 1) (#77)
    by lambert on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 09:45:13 AM EST
    ... for VP. Eh?

    Pretty clear to me. Definitely Hands Off (5.00 / 1) (#80)
    by goldberry on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 09:53:29 AM EST
    She pushed him away in a very obvious way.  Nope, no ambiguity there.  Richardson is persona non grata.  

    From the picture (5.00 / 2) (#83)
    by CST on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 09:58:08 AM EST
    Looks like a shrug.  Richardson is definitely giving off the "creepy uncle" vibe.

    He looks like (5.00 / 1) (#85)
    by chel2551 on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 10:01:57 AM EST
    an overweight Snidely Whiplash.  :)

    Hil deserves an Oscar (5.00 / 2) (#102)
    by oldpro on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 12:36:17 PM EST
    for this performance...all the while thinking, "Don't touch me, you snake!"

    Wonder who will play her in the movie...

    Maybe a (1.00 / 1) (#3)
    by JThomas on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 12:54:10 AM EST
    little awkward, but it is good to see them back together on stage. They are both pros and know thats its just business.

    Hardly (5.00 / 13) (#7)
    by txpolitico67 on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 12:59:45 AM EST
    I disagree with that comment that "it's business."  No, that's betrayal cut and dry.  All that the Clintons did for Richardson and that was their repayment.

    I know politics is a shark infested self-preservationfest.  But Richardson endorsing Obama was a bad move on his part.  As an ardent Clinton supporter, I find it completely unforgiveable.

    The Clintons are human too ya know.  Certainly they had to feel some type of anger and disappointment of Richardson.

    Oh, and for those who think that he's going to help Obama with the Latino vote, guess again.  Most Latinos don't know who Richardson is.  And with his surname and having to explain his Hispanic heritage, ain't gonna make a WHOLE lotta difference with a lot of Hispanics I know.


    I thought what he did after (5.00 / 13) (#16)
    by nycstray on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 01:09:52 AM EST
    the endorsement was worse. He would slime her every chance he got with pages right out of the Obama campaign. And he could NEVER say why he really supported Obama. It was pathetic.

    I vote (none / 0) (#15)
    by facta non verba on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 01:06:45 AM EST
    shrug. Why she is doing these events?

    She gave her word and cares (5.00 / 7) (#17)
    by nycstray on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 01:12:59 AM EST
    about the country and the Dem party. She really is committed to the people and public service. It's a shame how some treat her. She's not perfect, but damnit, she works hard to try and help people. She'll do what it takes to retain her power to get things done.

    Because Hillary (5.00 / 7) (#18)
    by txpolitico67 on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 01:14:58 AM EST
    cares about our country and what is happening right now.  She's above petty politics and "dusting off her shoulders".  She's an adult and a consummate politician.

    I am pretty self-realized and I WISH I half as magnanimous as Senator Clinton.  She's the essence of 'role model'.  No wonder Chelsea is such a dignified young lady.


    And the people know it -- (5.00 / 11) (#19)
    by Cream City on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 01:17:51 AM EST
    standing in the rain there, waiting to get to see her again, and a good turnout.  

    She looks darned presidential there.  Just saying.


    Honoring her commitments (5.00 / 1) (#20)
    by Edgar08 on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 01:18:27 AM EST
    Not much more to read into it.

    I really like this post (5.00 / 7) (#42)
    by Prabhata on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 03:40:15 AM EST
    From a more strategic perspective, this is a canny move on her part as she has graciously and very publically provided the Obama campaign with everything they have asked of her. She is conducting herself above reproach on every count, right down to exhorting her supporters to put their power behind Obama. The press and the Blogger Boyz may shriek it's not enough, it's all a sham, but the evidence is right there. You want to talk to my fundraisers? Here they are. You want public appearances? Tell me where and when, and I'm there. You want me to directly tell my supporters to vote for you? Done. She is not providing any opportunity for anyone to say she cost Obama a win. Anglachel

    Because Obama my not care about ... (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by dianem on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 01:20:36 AM EST
    ...the Democratic Party or Clinton's honor, but Clinton herself cares very much about both.

    Good god! Stop the presses. (none / 0) (#79)
    by coigue on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 09:53:11 AM EST
    Lets get all our pundits talking about it.

    Perfunctory hug, nothing more. (none / 0) (#92)
    by Radix on Tue Aug 19, 2008 at 10:58:23 AM EST
    There clearly is no love lost here. No surprise though.