Platform of a Protest Group

I get e-mails and press releases daily from protest groups asking me to "come to Denver" and join them. Here's the platform of one of them (I'll tell you which one at the end):

If you think no government should be allowed to do what the Bush regime has done the past 7 years, come to Denver and join others building a movement to that end.

If you are sickened by your government waging an endless, illegitimate, immoral war and occupation in Iraq, with ominous and immediate threats on Iran, and you demand U.S. aggression in the Middle East stop now, come to Denver and say it loudly!


If you are outraged that the war crime of torture is being committed by your government in your name with the Democratic leadership’s involvement, come to Denver to say “We Won’t Live in a Torture State!”

If you don’t buy the justification of your government spying on private calls and mail, no matter which party makes it, come to Denver to repudiate the new FISA law.

If you’re tired of politics as usual selling “change” while Obama refines the Bush program from “faith-based” initiatives to 80,000 troops “stabilizing” Iraq, and refuse to settle for less and less, come to Denver make a moral and political declaration.

The group is World Can't Wait:

World Can’t Wait, other organizations, and thousands of Denver activists will march against the war & torture, attacks on immigrants & women’s rights; gather in parks with permits, drop banners, and meet the world press with the our demand to bring the Bush program to a halt, no matter who is president!

The press release came from Revolution, "Voice of the Revolutionary Communist Party,USA."

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    Gee (5.00 / 2) (#1)
    by Fabian on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 11:51:23 AM EST
    Wouldn't it be better if the Democratic Party was leading on many of those issues instead of Party X?

    These guys were one of the first to (5.00 / 2) (#19)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 01:17:56 PM EST
    Crawford TX too to camp with Cindy Sheehan at the original Camp Casey.  I thought they were very interesting yet sometimes annoying :)  Then wingnut counterprotesters showed up and marched up to their little campout and demanded to know if they were a bunch of Commies and the Communists told them yes.  We were all verbally and loudly denounced at that point for hanging out with a bunch of Communists, it was very likely that we were all going to catch it from them and develop and case of Commies.  It was such a hoot.

    We have a (5.00 / 2) (#2)
    by andgarden on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 11:52:00 AM EST
    "Revolutionary Communist Party"? heh.

    Dude, if you go to many protests (none / 0) (#20)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 01:26:49 PM EST
    you will also notice that they have quite a few members.

    Where do I sign up? (5.00 / 4) (#3)
    by samanthasmom on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 11:55:03 AM EST
    Sounds more like the Democratic Party than the Democrats do.

    At least it sounds like (none / 0) (#33)
    by weltec2 on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 07:19:02 PM EST
    what the Democratic Party used to be... and IMO should be. Right now I'm not so sure.

    With the divided Democratic Party (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by JavaCityPal on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 12:06:57 PM EST
    It's logical that other groups would try to bring their message and try to woo some to the disgruntled members to their side. This unrest certainly makes people listen to their alternatives to remaining attached to a party that no longer represents them.

    The squeaky wheel gets the oil and (5.00 / 2) (#9)
    by PssttCmere08 on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 12:13:38 PM EST
    Americans have become far too complacent.  Like it or not, it may take an uprising to change the direction of where the parties and America is headed.

    May? (none / 0) (#10)
    by Edger on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 12:16:01 PM EST
    Edger....O.K. "WILL" :) (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by PssttCmere08 on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 12:41:28 PM EST
    The First of May? (none / 0) (#14)
    by Steve M on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 01:04:24 PM EST
    No. (none / 0) (#30)
    by Edger on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 04:06:33 PM EST

    WCW (5.00 / 3) (#11)
    by txpolitico67 on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 12:19:14 PM EST
    really emerged took off after the invasion of Iraq if I remember correctly.  I totally remember them.  I met one of their people at the Tx Dem state convention back in 2004.

    Wow, their platform "seems" like the types of ideals the Dems should espouse.  BUT, alas, the FISA supporters will have NONE of that.

    Meanwhile, the City of St. Paul (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by Ben Masel on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 01:07:13 PM EST
    has revoked the permit, issued in March, for non-partisan "Close Guantanamo" and "Stop Government Spying" events in Hamm's Plaza during the Republican convention, citing unsapecified "security concerns." ewe were p;repared to abide by their limit of 91 in attendance and prohibition of any but handheld amplification. Litigation in the offing.

    Do you have (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by eric on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 01:10:28 PM EST
    a copy of the letter revoking the permit?  I would be interested in having a look at it.

    Waiting on my co-plaintiff to scan and post. (none / 0) (#22)
    by Ben Masel on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 01:38:35 PM EST
    Scans of documents, and phots of venue (none / 0) (#23)
    by Ben Masel on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 01:50:49 PM EST
    number 6 is original permit (none / 0) (#25)
    by Ben Masel on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 01:53:20 PM EST
    number 1 the revocation.

    So they are going to (none / 0) (#26)
    by eric on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 02:08:25 PM EST
    banish you to Mears Park?  That is nowhere near the convention. You might as well have your demonstration in Milwaukee.

    Ecolab Plaza is pretty close, though.  No clue where John Ireland Triangle is.

    BTW, I see the story about Hamm's Plaza on the Minnesota Public Radio Website.


    I found (none / 0) (#27)
    by eric on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 02:22:09 PM EST
    John Ireland Triangle.  Here's a link to an overhead shot:  LINK

    It's up on the hill, so you can kind of look down toward the convention.  Lots of traffic goes by there, as well.  Probably more pleasant with the grass than that paved plaza in front of the EcoLab building.

    Good luck with your court battle, but I wouldn't get your hopes up, the courts here seem to be bending over for the police.


    You suppose they might have gotten (none / 0) (#18)
    by JavaCityPal on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 01:16:06 PM EST
    information that other groups would be attacking yours?

    Ben, you're starting to type like I do (none / 0) (#21)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 01:28:14 PM EST
    I'm feeling you might be upset about this.

    Attorney now retained. (none / 0) (#29)
    by Ben Masel on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 02:40:44 PM EST
    i was thinking it would be (none / 0) (#4)
    by cpinva on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 11:55:30 AM EST
    a more productive use of scarce, allocable resources to spend them getting people to actually vote in nov. that's a sound (ballots falling in a box) that every politician hears.

    What's the sound (5.00 / 4) (#5)
    by Fabian on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 12:00:28 PM EST
    of a ballot not cast?

    "Click, click, click" (5.00 / 3) (#7)
    by samanthasmom on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 12:04:11 PM EST
    My needles are bamboo so they don't make a lot of noise, but the metal ones do.

    Vote for what? (5.00 / 3) (#6)
    by Edger on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 12:03:41 PM EST
    Coke? Or Pepsi?

    In this case (5.00 / 2) (#15)
    by blogtopus on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 01:05:53 PM EST
    We have Coke vs Coke with the Christmas Decorations.

    I'm trying to decide if Santa Coke is McCain because of the white hair, or Obama because he's lured our children into believing he'll bring them such wonderful gifts.


    Neither Coke nor Pepsi - a cop or a cop. (none / 0) (#31)
    by Edger on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 04:11:13 PM EST
    Obama is there as the "good cop". Put there by the Oligarch "Party" to calm and coopt war/fascism/imperialism opposition.

    It appears to be working, too.


    Like a charm.... (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by kdog on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 04:56:03 PM EST
    it must be hard god damn work to be feigning disagreement all the time.

    Well, they always position (none / 0) (#34)
    by Edger on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 07:33:17 PM EST
    just slightly left of the republican candidate. Just enough to be able to say vote for me or you'll get him!

    (The republican candidate will probably always be a "him", I think)


    You ever seen this kdog? (none / 0) (#36)
    by Edger on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 07:47:44 PM EST
    Tomorrow is here. The game is over. The crisis has passed -- and the patient is dead. Whatever dream you had about what America is, it isn't that anymore. It's gone. And not just in some abstract sense, some metaphorical or mythological sense, but down in the nitty-gritty, in the concrete realities of institutional structures and legal frameworks, of policy and process, even down to the physical nature of the landscape and the way that people live.

    The Republic you wanted -- and at one time might have had the power to take back -- is finished. You no longer have the power to keep it; it's not there. It was kidnapped in December 2000, raped by the primed and ready exploiters of 9/11, whored by the war pimps of the 2003 aggression, gut-knifed by the corrupters of the 2004 vote, and raped again by its "rescuers" after the 2006 election. Beaten, abused, diseased and abandoned, it finally died. We are living in its grave.
    It is, by any measure, a remarkable achievement, one of the greatest political feats ever. Despite Bush's standing as one of the most despised presidents in American history, despite a Congress in control of the opposition party, despite a solid majority opposed to his policies and his war, despite an Administration riddled with scandal and crime, despite the glaring rot in the nation's infrastructure and the callous abandonment of one of the nation's major cities to natural disaster and crony greed -- despite all of this, and much more that would have brought down or mortally wounded any government in a democratic country, the Bush Administration is now in a far stronger position than it was a year ago.

    How can this be? The answer is simple: the United States is no longer a democratic country, or even a degraded semblance of one.
    Yet the belief persists that if there are not tanks in the streets or leather-jacketed commissars breaking down doors, then Americans are still living in a free country. I wrote about this situation almost six years ago -- six years ago:

    It won't come with jackboots and book burnings, with mass rallies and fevered harangues. It won't come with "black helicopters" or tanks on the street. It won't come like a storm - but like a break in the weather, that sudden change of season you might feel when the wind shifts on an October evening: everything is the same, but everything has changed. Something has gone, departed from the world, and a new reality has taken its place.

    As in Rome, all the old forms will still be there: legislatures, elections, campaigns - plenty of bread and circuses for the folks. But the "consent of the governed" will no longer apply; actual control of the state will have passed to a small group of nobles who rule largely for the benefit of their wealthy peers and corporate patrons.

    To be sure, there will be factional conflicts among this elite, and a degree of free debate will be permitted, within limits; but no one outside the privileged circle will be allowed to govern or influence state policy. Dissidents will be marginalized - usually by "the people" themselves. Deprived of historical knowledge by an impoverished educational system designed to produce complacent consumers, not thoughtful citizens, and left ignorant of current events by a media devoted solely to profit, many will internalize the force-fed values of the ruling elite, and act accordingly. There will be little need for overt methods of control.

    Post-Mortem America: Bush's Year of Triumph and the Hard Way Ahead
    Chris Floyd, Empire Burlesque

    Sounds like... (5.00 / 1) (#38)
    by kdog on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 10:34:07 AM EST
    Mr. Floyd is onto something Edger.



    Your'e welcome! (none / 0) (#39)
    by Edger on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 11:17:04 AM EST
    The whole article is a great read....

    WSWS on "World Can't Wait" (none / 0) (#24)
    by Andreas on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 01:52:56 PM EST
    "World Can't Wait" is an appendage of the Democratic Party.

    The WSWS wrote in 2006 that "World Can't Wait" is

    a coalition of liberal academics, actors and radical protest groups allied with a section of the Democratic Party

    On the political outlook advanced by the World Can't Wait organizers:

    that a Democratic victory in the November mid-term elections would reverse the militarist agenda of the US government and stop the attacks on civil liberties

    In addition to Conyers, the Democratic congressman from Detroit, the World Can't Wait coalition is allied with other members of the Democratic Party's Black Congressional Caucus. Several other Democratic politicians endorsed the protests, including Maxine Waters of Los Angeles, Jesse Jackson Jr. and Bobby Rush of Chicago, Major Owens of New York and former Georgia congresswoman Cynthia McKinney. They are more than happy to support an organization that is drumming up votes for the Democrats, just as those groups who championed the "Anybody but Bush" argument were used to channel opposition to the war behind the election campaign of John Kerry in 2004.

    At "World Can't Wait" protest
    Michigan SEP candidate exposes Democrats' complicity with Bush

    7 October 2006

    Ahhhhh (5.00 / 0) (#28)
    by Steve M on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 02:39:14 PM EST
    Very, very conclusive stuff you cite!

    I can hear (none / 0) (#35)
    by weltec2 on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 07:44:43 PM EST
    Joseph McCarthy's bones rattling around beneath the ground.

    "World Can't Wait" (none / 0) (#37)
    by Andreas on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 10:25:26 PM EST
    My comment was about "World Can't Wait" (and the "Revolutionary Communist Party, USA") not the Democratic Party.